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It is 100% worth it for me. I'm planning to make my own review soon with pics and stuff. I got the phenol peel done in May 2021. Just searching through my album, this is a comparison of before and after with similar angle (different lightning of course). I have a bunch of mixed shallow/deep scars throughout my cheeks/temple/face. I circled a few deep scars for easier for easier analysis. The outline of the deep scar still persists but is a lot more shallower. Some of t

Hihi, So left side is old, some pics maybe 12-18 months old, and right side I've taken this week. I have not had any filler at this stage. There's no miracle results here, my skin is far from flawless, however given my scarring is quite severe, I personally think the progress has been great. People far too often have unreasonable expectations or are very impatient. Obviously I have some significant fat loss particularly a very large hole which is obviously going to be imposs

No of course not, its never stopped me from doing anything and I'm a relatively social person. Obviously its had its difficult moments, but that generally would just be from me sitting in my room over-analyzing them too much. Also these sets of pictures are intentionally taken at bad angles and in harsh lighting to make the scars more visible to better picture/document them. Here are three I've taken just now at 1am, and even with my eyes drooping at this hour they look fine in decent ligh

@harmlessboy1441 thank for your comment, I really appreciate it. I hope it will fade out by time, I will give it a year and I will see. The doctor used Radiesse filler, but this result is after 4 treatments (4x subcision, 3x filler and 1x laser). In that picture is my right side, despite the redness I am quite satisfied with the result. Here is also picture of my left, which is worse but at least not red: I’m taking a 6-12 months nap from treatments now. @BoatShoe123 Dr. Emil

I just came here to say despite the redness, it's looking fantastic!

Well first of all it looks fantastic and most people have some red flushing here or there and it looks pretty normal to be blunt so you can pass it off to just rosacea or just some flushing. I have some redness now and then on my nose and cheeks. The good thing is you fit in way more and it looks like 80% better except for some slight shadow. Now that said, it's unknown in general why it's red but it could be that you pushed blood vessels or things around or it just irritated something in g

I have been updating on this site forever, but I have to share what has made the biggest difference in my skin. I’ve done subcision, laser, and microneedling (in office and at home), and the BIGGEST difference I’ve ever seen is with filler. My dermatologist is Dr Gonzalez at Bowes Dermatology in Miami. She uses Belotero filler on me. It’s expensive, honestly, at $700 each vial (I only need one) plus the cost of subcision if she does that too (I’m not sure how much she charges for that)

Hi everyone, I've been a viewer of this forum for many years now (when I was a teenager maybe 13,14?) and now I am thankful to be able to contribute back (late 20s). Short background: I had cystic acne as a kid and continued to have it through out my early-mid 20s. I finally have my acne under control but am left with probably one of the worst acne scars. Ethnicity: Asian Skin Type: Unsure but not pale, not brown. Maybe in between? Past procedures: May 2016: Ematrix (0% im

Just wanted to post an update... I paid my down deposit and have officially booked my Phenol Peel for December 2022. I'm elated.. and nervous....but most of all, pretty excited.

Dr. Hazany is very, very expensive from what I've read. Dr. Rullan has much more experience and charges reasonable prices, although he did increase them substantially in the last several years. My results with Dr. Rullan weren't noticeable for the first two years. I did 5 sessions of Phenol Cross, a few Pixel laser treatments, and one subcision (my scars aren't meant for that treatment). Saw no improvement. After my fifth treatment which included Phenol Cross and laser, I decided not t

Catharsis I know what I am about to say is easier said that done, believe me I know. I am 47 years old and have been dealing with the effects of cystic acne scarring since a horrible break out at 23 years old. I have continued to have small cysts excised over the last 24 years. I have done almost every procedure known in existence except TCA cross and a phenol peel. I have had multiple chemical peels, scar excision and revision, punch scar revision, subcision multiple times, too many chemi

@Candy SaysThis is the email response for Quthero. Great News!!!! (Even though they haven't tested on old scars it should work in theory with scar revision) Hi, Thanks. We are not sure if it would work on old scars. We only tested on fresh incisions, ie scar prevention. The derm gel should be available later in the Fall through doctors offices. We could also sell directly at that time. Thanks, Milica Again this fall!!! This might all be over soon!

Some 70 percent. Some 30 percent. It depends on each scar. It is very variable

Here is another scarless hydrogel company that is really promising coming from the University of Toronto. Unlike Sunogel, they have been giving frequent updates (last one is may 2022) and have investment from TWO major firms. In a 2020 interview, they claimed that it will be available for surgical use in 2-3 YEARS (The pandemic likely slowed this down a bit; although they just have been designated as a type VI medical device in Canada). This one is legit and likely coming very soon. I will keep

To all suffering still and future unfortunate cases I hope you will all stay strong and never give up. The fact we were all damaged by accutane poison was a sad reality check to the evil that exists in this world. I took accutane when I was 16(now 28) and it damaged my overall physical health in many ways such as having no energy, brain damage (I have seen brain scans of people who took accutane and it kills parts of the brain.) This is not surprising because accutane is a chemotherapy

I have been following a few threads from past couple of months.I really admire your encouraging words on other threads and It has always given me so much hope going forward .I am wishing you nothing but the best for your treatment

Just got dermabrasion. The dermabrasion itself was fast, only 10 minutes-ish. Sounds like he didn't go deep then. Will post photos later.

Hey guys, Before more than 5 months I had acne scars treatment consisted of subcision + CO2 laser + filler all in one session. Few days after the treatment I spotted a red patch directly in the place where the doctor inserted the cannula. I thought that it will fade by time but it is still here even after 5 months. Can somebody give me an advice how can I get rid of this red patch on my face? Has somebody ever experienced this? I also asked my doctor what is that and he told me that he

Just got back from treatment. Face is super red and swollen still but here is what it looks like.

Hi all. After my last subcision (with two syringes of juvederm volite), I decided to a suctioning protocol beginning the 3rd day after the treatment. I know the filler is supposed to act as a spacer but the dermatologist I went to (one of the best in Toronto no less.. Baranakin) talked to me about the point of diminishing returns, whether I’d actually see more improvement with the amount of treatments I have already done etc, just basically rained on my parade lol. When I asked him if I sho

Yes i have contacted my dermatologist and he says I have to use hyalaronidase as the lump could be because of the filler! The smaller one is a hematoma for sure and he says it will go down but the other large weird blister lump could be filler! But the doctor I went to here in my country to get this injection done didn’t wanted to use it after the ultrasound and used the laser to break it down! Yes my doctor used the tumescent anesthesia before using the nokor needle. he did only the sca

Yeah I mean subcision and/or filler could push a few things around too like blood vessels or just irritating the skin. Like I said if I got results like that I'd embrace the redness because it looks perfection. I don't even think it's that red before/after tbh. Whether the filler fades some of the results I don't know to be honest, but for now it looks fantastic. Clearly having a good doctor do subcision and/or filler can do some good results for atrophy or depressions of the right calibur.

There are many school of thought one is doing with filler so that the scars are not tethered back after Subcision. The other is waiting a few weeks in which depression are clearly visible. Dr rullan fills the pits first and does the Subcision second. But again it’s fluid it can move so a bit of jumbo science

No treatment. Your skin looks great!

Some news guys (although @presnalready mentioned something similar before) : https://www.abbvie.com/our-science/pipeline/devices.html Tropoelastin, the elastagen-made product, is OFFICIALLY in the pipeline (we couldn't see it before). Which means the trials were successful and it does work the way it was intended to: correcting atrophic scars and stretch marks. Doesn't sound like much when you say it like that, but it's very VERY big: we've been waiting for years for this to happe

If it is tethered what happens is the filler moves to the area that is not tethered.

Definitely add filler with cannula as you don’t have edges and can give you immediate improvement

In certain lights, angles they are noticeable big time, especially when your walking around with perfect skin models everywhere. Of course his are shallow simply because it's so up close it looks more noticeable but let's not forget the quantity is also eye-worthy. If you see a bunch of things in one area it can draw eyes much like a bigger one. His are shallow versus others for sure won't deny that. Should at least take some comfort in that they are more on the shallow/blended side. I

I think staying out of the sun in general is ideal but subcision does not involve heat energy, the top layer of the skin is unaffected therefore there is no reason to stay out of the sun because your photosensitivity is not increased however, subcision coupled with laser in the same session is a different story.

There are several ppl on this board incliuding me who notice rf making our scars look worst--especially the lutronic brand. It gave my cheeks a saggy appearance 2 months post. And i had plump cheeks despite the scarring. it went away after 3 months but didn't help my scarring. bottom line, it didn't do what it was advertise which is help collagen production. you can go ahead and try--see what the first one does. your scarring is very shallow. have you tried an acid peel or dermabrasion. alm

I can agree on that, for rolling scars mostly some HA filler, Sculptra could be also good (widespread scars). I'm also dealing with same type of acne scarring, mostly rolling with quite alot of fat loss. In normal light my scars are visible but really not bad. My anxiety and also PSTD starts to flare up when i check myself in direct sunlight / tinted car windows / overhead lights / rear view mirror/ ELEVATORS. So i know the struggle really, lighting can be our friend or enemy when we have acne s

Most of my pics were somewhat side on, here's another on a harsh angle that might give a bit more idea on depth. That central area I had targeted many times with subcision and it has raised up quite a bit and lots of new skin formed in many areas, obviously there is fat loss there but tbh I'm not sure if I've seen fat loss like that improved so much without filler. Then below it you see many rolling scars and other textural issues either completely removed or become very shallow. The

I paid 1400 Don'tgiveup got quoted 2700 Missmacay paid around 4500 for a deep one In older posts Dr. Yarborough charged around 5k A dermatologist quoted me 10k for a deep one. Going to try to negotiate when I see her again. If you're going to get it done, may as well be a deep one. On realself a girl went to Dr. Winslow in Carmel Indiana. You're kinda around that area, try her first. Retin-a soften my scars quite a bit actually. But I'm forgetful and not

Thank you so much! I really needed some support. It’s so crazy how we are so invested (emotionally/financially) in our scar revision and others can’t see that and put us down for it. Like, do they think we want to keep doing this. It’s exhausting. But I also can’t stop treatments and live the rest of my life constantly thinking of how my scars look. I have such a public facing job that it is excruciating to have nonstop people looking at my face. really disappointed. I am sc

@presn I am here to appreciate your contribution to this thread. Very interesting stuff.

You should take accutane without a doubt. It's already resulted in acne scarring that's at least moderate, resulted in fat loss/atrophy in spots, and you still have several active acne. I really wouldn't play around anymore with this and your doctor should be thrown in the "stupids circle" along with mine as they like to I guess wait until you have lots of scars before accutane first. My impression is your scarring is (and it's hard to see because a lot of red marks/acne) but 5/10 right sid

He is scamming you and extracting money from you. Microneedling won’t do shit. You are not doing Microneedling for in office.cross I can understand. Atleast it might help in lifting softening the edge. But not so much with subcsion. You need to melt the edge with the laser. Go with erbium full ablation. Dr Taylor does it. This will blend the scar edge to normal skin. There will be temporary pigmentation loss but you will repigment in 2 weeks. But before that if you want to raise scar more maybe

It’s still red. It hasn’t blended yet. It will take time. If you don’t smile it’s almost impossible to see

Fun to be born in a superficial society that values perfect dna placement people have no control over, over anything else, then spending months and years chasing after random crap like this isn't it? I wouldn't wish this stuff on my worst enemy.

This is temporary hypopigmentation. Also slow down you have to give it some time to heal. When the redness goes away that is when you can say your skin have recovered.

4 days post. Feels like all I got was a deep exfoliation. I'm already looking for my next dermabrasion. The doctor that did this one said id have to wait 10 months. There's one in FL that looks promising. Does a lot of skin cancer reconstruction and is in his 60s. Also does IV sedation

My guess would be damage to layers underneath the top, hyperpigmentation, hypopigmentation, or more scarring. Let me be clear my doctor who did the 80% improvement also "created" 2 scars even though they are shallow he said "I encountered something underneath so I had to stop" but I have this sort of super shallow oval scar because it "opened up" something underneath according to him, on my right side temple area. It's very shallow but wide and white. I mean my guess is that dermabrasion i

If it weren't for acne scars, I might even be an Elon Musk. I'm rotting in a room right now. Not a minute goes by without thinking about my acne scars

Thank you so much!!! I don’t look great in all lighting which I hope to capture for you guys but much better than before. I actually tried to take pictures in my bathroom where most of my pictures are taken but had a hard time capturing the scars. Definitely think this is good news as I had a very easy time getting the scars on camera before!! Also please keep in mind that I have on a silicone primer (porefessional by benefit), concealer and foundation by ilia. So without makeup my sc

Take vit c, sleep well, eat well good luck.

Thanks! It went well.. better than I thought.

Dont panic it will be ok goodluck

It is pretty cool huh. Still ways away though so we shouldn’t put all our emotional eggs in the vert basket, anything can happen. Just remember to judge each study objectively and not think that just cause every past scar treatment research failed that this one will too, they’re all independent events. In all my time researching this topic, I think this is the first time that a true candidate has appeared, and is gaining traction. Regardless of whether it fails or succeeds, it’s a pret

Like ^ that's a total, 100% scam, at least for microneedling and the other things are too ambiguous and not the right things. I would nuke the crap out of your entire skin with the harshest dermabrasion known to man or a super deep laser. Probably have to get underneath all of it with ablation. I'm unsure what type of scars the darker spots are, those look specialized. You need to see an expert no matter the outcome an expert is going to have to work with you until it's improved even if it

No one know how many sessions yo would need. Yes a safe bet is atleast 5 to 6 sessions. I heard dr rullan mentioning in a video about that many he did for deep scars. Phenol croton 88 percent.