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Just wondering if anyone have tried any of these products and if they are any good. Which one would be better? Would these products also be good for fading red marks?

So here's a list of products that help improve collagen production. I'm planning on adding one of these to my regime. I'm not sure which one is more effective.

Emu oil, also dremu oil

Vitamin C (Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate)

Rosehip seed oil

Copper Peptide

Retinol (I'm already using green cream, so adding another product to my regime)

Vitamin K

????

Please add to the list if you know of others.

thanks

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Just wondering if anyone have tried any of these products and if they are any good. Which one would be better? Would these products also be good for fading red marks?

So here's a list of products that help improve collagen production. I'm planning on adding one of these to my regime. I'm not sure which one is more effective.

Emu oil, also dremu oil

Vitamin C (Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate)

Rosehip seed oil

Copper Peptide

Retinol (I'm already using green cream, so adding another product to my regime)

Vitamin K

????

Please add to the list if you know of others.

thanks

vitamin c works wonders on red marks if taken in high doses.

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what is considered high?

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8-10 grams

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Just wondering if anyone have tried any of these products and if they are any good. Which one would be better? Would these products also be good for fading red marks?

So here's a list of products that help improve collagen production. I'm planning on adding one of these to my regime. I'm not sure which one is more effective.

Emu oil, also dremu oil

Vitamin C (Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate)

Rosehip seed oil

Copper Peptide

Retinol (I'm already using green cream, so adding another product to my regime)

Vitamin K

????

Please add to the list if you know of others.

thanks

vitamin c works wonders on red marks if taken in high doses.

i disagree, taking too much of something is always a no no. 8-10 grams!!!! you guys are out of your minds. Don't you just piss out 95% of that because your body can't use it?

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Use Vitamin C topically (aka L-ascorbic acid) for it to have maximum effect as opposed to chucking a whole load of pills down your neck.

Info on vit c skincare: http://skincarerx.com/vitamin-c.html

Skinceuticals: http://www.skinceuticals.com/productItem.a...=2&productID=55

http://www.skinceuticals.com/productItem.a...=2&productID=20

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Cellex-C: http://www.skinstore.co.uk/pm-712-27-celle...ed-c-serum.aspx

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Will this stuff really fade my redmarks all over my cheeks?

Thanks

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hey jjred, how's diacneal working working out for?

Usually a good vitamin C and/or E serum does the trick for redmarks. Vitamin C increases collagen production in the dermis level, providing a healthy dermis. therefore aids your epidermis turnover and regeneration at a healthy rate, which increase the speeds to repair any damages like post acne red marks. Vitamin E kills free radicals and provides nourishment to the epidermis, thus provide a healthier hydrated skin and faster recovery.

With vitamin C, you have to be invistigative, since it's a very unstable chemical, fast oxidization, which can lead to a very short shelf life and/or loose it's potency instantly when exposed to air.

Skinceutical ferulic line is good because it contains vitamin e, which is also known for hydrating and rapid healing properties. It also has sun protection and claims to stay on your skin for four days, which i dont know if the latter is true. The downside is it doesn't tell you what form of vitamin c. There are three known forms of vitamin c: acorbyl palmitate(very unstable), magnesium ascorbyl phosphate (more stable but still requires attention), and Tetrasubstituted lipophilic ascorbates (which is the newest and best known form of vitamin c, hardly any company uses yet). Another downsize is, the solution is delivered from a dripplet bottle. I don't know how effective is that in maintining it's stability. $120

Same with cellex-c. Its in a dripplet bottle but it does say it contains magnesium ascorbyl phosphate. I read on acne.org, one of the users contacted a representative about the oxidization of the product. The rep said to refrigerate unopened bottles but it's okay not to refrigerate the open one. The user noticed a delay color change of the open bottle when refrigerated. The change in color is a sign of oxidization. But even with some lost in potency i wonder how effective it still is. $90

I found VITAMIN C COMPLEX from skinmedica. It has the newest and most stable form of vitamin C (tetrasubstituted liphilic ascorbates) for $70. It also has a stable vitamin e compound. www.skinmedica.com. I can't find a lot of information on this product etierh. However, the ingredients sounds promising. Plus the solution is capsulated in an airtight container designed to keep air out. Please don't confuse this with another skinmedica vitamin c complex online. Two of the same name, different product.

A Vitiman C product denise2 raves about is the C3 Cellular Correcting Complex by aloette. Can't find a lot of information on C3 itself either but Denise2, acne.org user loves this product. She actually recommended lumitone from aloette to me for my redmarks. She said it can fade red marks instantly. Those are her words :) I found out about C3 through her threads. I read a lot of good reviews on aloette's other product line. But sometimes I can't tell if the reviews were from actual users, sales rep, or both. My only beef with aloette is they dont show all their ingredients. .

So I'm really torn between lumitone and vitamin c products. But if i were to get a vitamine c product i would probably get the skinmedica vitamin c complex. I might end up getting lumitone and a vitamin c product and see how that works.

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you could squeeze some fresh orange juice on ur face...

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You need to use Vitamin C topically (aka L-ascorbic acid) for it to have maximum effect as opposed to chucking a whole load of pills down your neck.

Edit to add: L-ascrobic acid is the only form of vitamin C that the body can recognise and utilise for collagen production

Info. on Vitamin C skincare: http://skincarerx.com/vitamin-c.html

Skinceuticals: http://www.skinceuticals.com/productItem.a...=2&productID=55

http://www.skinceuticals.com/productItem.a...=2&productID=20

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Cellex-C: http://www.skinstore.co.uk/pm-712-27-celle...ed-c-serum.aspx

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Lot's of people talk about how lemon juice can fade red marks. I wonder if it's due to the vitamin C in it? Anybody know any other natural vitamin C products that could be applied to the skin as I find lemon a bit too drying for the face.

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BFguitar, how effective is lemon or orange juice compare to those vitamin c products?

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I've been using Aloette Lumitone for both red marks and dark scars left from breakouts. It does work, but I does take some time.

The most stable form of vitamin C is in powder form. It is only activated just prior to application on the skin so it is at its maximum efficacy. I find them to be quite effective but I have to use them on an infrequent basis otherwise they can result in oilier skin and breakouts. Some examples include:

Aloette C-Accelerator: http://www.aloettecosmetics.com/subcategory.aspx?category=25

Repair C by Skinn Cosmetics: http://www.skinncosmetics.com/st_repair_cplus_detail.php

Hope and a Prayer by Philosophy: http://www.philosophy.com/web/store/produc..._-1_25584_24009

I also tried copper peptide (Super CP Serum) found at www.skinbiology.com. It takes a long while to see results and it started to break me out. Some people have seen great results with CP however, it needs to be used in conjunction with either AHA or BHA to break apart scars and the CP will promote skin remodelling.

Emu oil does promote skin healing and can be used in conjunction with CP serum. I find that I have to use it infrequently as it also makes me break out. The key is to use a minimal amount.

I recently ordered Aloette's C3 and am looking forward to giving it a try. As per this Canadian site, http://www.theshoppingchannel.com/product_...mId=373728&Nz=0, C3 is based on a vitamin A peptide. According to Christy Cohen (owner of Aloette), it is a gentle version of vitamin A.

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hey heartless, let us know how the Aloette's C3 work out for you.

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hey, this a good topic...

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