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Thread-Lift for scarring???????

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When I pull or strecth my skin (around my sideburns) my scarring is less noticeable. Or I should say my scars dissapear. It creates a nice optical illusion. I was wondering if a facelift would help HIDE my scars and improve their appearance. I Know that facelift was not created for scarring, otherwise doctors will offer it as the first option. I also know that only certain over-bone areas such as foread and sideburns may obtain a bigger optical illusion. And It wouldn' help hide your scars if you have moderate~severe scarring. I woudln't consider a tradicional face lift because I'm still young and I don't want long scars along my hairline. Plus, I can't spend $ 7,000~10,000. I was thinking about a nonsurgical facelift known as Thread or Countour lift. It's suitable for all ages , it leaves no scars, It's less expensive and results may last for up to 4 years.

Has anyone on here had a facelift? Traditional or NonSurgical?? Has your scarring improved?? Do you think it'll help???

Some members may say that fillers are a better option. But It carries a bigger risk and sometimes you'll need at least 3 months to start seeing results. Sometimes the outcome is worse than the original condition. A threadlift on the other hand offers inmediate results. And if something goes wrong, it's very easy to rearrange or take off the threads.

I wouldn't mind spending a grand every 4 years if it helps improve my scarring. What do you guys think?

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Thank you so much guys for your multiple replies. Please don't reply anymore because I can't keep up with it. :D:D:D:D

I'm just kiddin' I understand it. Sometimes I wish I could reply to some hot topics but sometimes my lack of expertise sets a limit. So take your time. No rush. Me, myself and I-scars will not go anywhere. The three of us will be waiting for you. :boohoo:

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Your scars sound like mine. When I pull my skin my scars fade away. I just posted this before, but I've been using retin-a for the last two weeks. I saw a derm back in July '05 and got the human kind of collagen injections. He then prescribed me retin-a to use as well. I never used it once because it was the summer and I wanted to be outside. I was afraid it would over dry my skin. Well these last two weeks I've been using it religiously and I have seen tremendous changes. I know this isn't what you were asking, but I thought I would give you my two cents because it sounds like we have the exact same kind of scaring in the same areas. This worked for me and may work well for you. It could save you a couple grand too!

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Your comments are greatly appreciated :cool:

Butterflies74,

From what I've read, one can have the threads rearranged or replaced as many times as needed with no side effects. My ex g/f's mom has had two thread lifts so far. Her skin looks great, but she's never had acne scarring. So that wouldn't help.

BY THE WAY, I changed my name. From Dude-whyDoIHaveScars? to SmoothLover :wub: . It's kind of shorter.

Sometimes a little change doesn't hurt :angel:

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Believe it or not, you aren't the first person on this board to bring up this outlandish idea.

But the fact of the matter is that a facelift doesn't actually maintain tension on the surface of the skin, so your acne scars would remain the same.

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Believe it or not, you aren't the first person on this board to bring up this outlandish idea.

But the fact of the matter is that a facelift doesn't actually maintain tension on the surface of the skin, so your acne scars would remain the same.

Well, I never said that I was the first person on this board to bring up this "outlandish" idea. Many people have asked it in the past. However, no convincing proof has been presented whether it works or not. I mean, nobody on here seems to have had a facelift. As I've stated before, I know that your scars will remain there and so far, no treatment can eliminate them. Since it doesn't seem to be an aggresive and super expensive procedure, I was just considering as another alternative to help improve ones appereance. But thank you for your opinion. That's how we learn.

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Your scars sound like mine. When I pull my skin my scars fade away. I just posted this before, but I've been using retin-a for the last two weeks. I saw a derm back in July '05 and got the human kind of collagen injections. He then prescribed me retin-a to use as well. I never used it once because it was the summer and I wanted to be outside. I was afraid it would over dry my skin. Well these last two weeks I've been using it religiously and I have seen tremendous changes. I know this isn't what you were asking, but I thought I would give you my two cents because it sounds like we have the exact same kind of scaring in the same areas. This worked for me and may work well for you. It could save you a couple grand too!

May I ask what % of Retin-A are you using? Is it generic or name brand?

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Hi SmoothLover......I had an appt. w/a cosmetic surgeon last week and he suggested having a mini face-lift; he said that it would make the scars less noticeable. He also said that when they do the facelift, they separate the skin from the muscle, which in turn releases any scars that are tethered down.....so your idea may not be so far-fetched after all, eh?!

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Hi SmoothLover......I had an appt. w/a cosmetic surgeon last week and he suggested having a mini face-lift; he said that it would make the scars less noticeable. He also said that when they do the facelift, they separate the skin from the muscle, which in turn releases any scars that are tethered down.....so your idea may not be so far-fetched after all, eh?!

Oh! it sounds great!

Did he mention what kind of mini facelift it was? Traditional? Endoscopic? Thread? They differ in results and price.

By the way, it wasn't my idea and I wasn't the first one to post about it either. I bet most of us have thought about it and weren't sure if it may help or not. I've read related posts and I couldn't find what I was looking for, so that's why I decided to start this new threat. But it's good to know that at least it's an option to be consired. Thank you so much Ebby

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Hi SmoothLover......I had an appt. w/a cosmetic surgeon last week and he suggested having a mini face-lift; he said that it would make the scars less noticeable. He also said that when they do the facelift, they separate the skin from the muscle, which in turn releases any scars that are tethered down.....so your idea may not be so far-fetched after all, eh?!

Just be careful. The fact of the matter with unconventional approaches like this is that the doctors themselves may not even be fully aware of the results. They may *think* it will help, but it may not. Unless you're interested in having a facelift for it's conventional puprose, you should get multiple opinions before trying anything. There's not a vast amount of information about the relation of face lifts to acne scars, but the small amount that's out there suggests that it simply will not help:

http://www.facialsurgery.com/PPgfaq_facelift_acne.html

When considering a facelift it is important to recognize that, despite conventional opinion, the texture of the skin on the face will not be modified by the facelift procedure. Facial skin conditions such as fine lines, acne scars, age spots and smoker's creases will quickly return to their original texture and presentation regardless of how tightly the skin is pulled during a facelift.

http://www.cosmeticsurgery.com/research/co...rgery/Facelift/

Sorry, but a face lift will not help your acne scars, even though when you put your fingers on the skin just in front of your ears and pull your facial skin backwards, the acne scars seem to flatten as the skin tightens. It seems to make mechanical sense that the scars should flatten with the face lift operation, but it doesn't work out when you actually try it. The problem is that the face lift won't maintain tension on the surface of the skin, and the acne scars come back completely within just a couple of weeks after the face lift.

Although every plastic surgeon should learn this fact in Plastic Surgery 101, many of the plastic surgeons you visit will not hesitate to offer you a face lift to improve your acne scars. I've seen it here in Omaha. You can be smarter than they are by declining.

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Ebby - How were the results of your last dermabrasion? I remember that you had a dermabrasion years ago like I did and you recently had another with Yarbourough.

I have considered having a mini facelift. I actually had a dermatologist tell me that I might want to consider it. The dermabrasion that I had left me with super huge pores. As the skin sagged, the pores got deeper. A facelift would make these scarred pores look better. I don't know what effect it would have on other types of scarring. I probably could use a facelift for general sagging pretty soon anyway. I know that the effects of a facelift don't last. I wonder if your skin sags faster after you have had a facelift? I wouldn't think so, but you never know. It could cause the thinner stretched skin to sag quicker.

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Ebby - How were the results of your last dermabrasion? I remember that you had a dermabrasion years ago like I did and you recently had another with Yarbourough.

I have considered having a mini facelift. I actually had a dermatologist tell me that I might want to consider it. The dermabrasion that I had left me with super huge pores. As the skin sagged, the pores got deeper. A facelift would make these scarred pores look better. I don't know what effect it would have on other types of scarring. I probably could use a facelift for general sagging pretty soon anyway. I know that the effects of a facelift don't last. I wonder if your skin sags faster after you have had a facelift? I wouldn't think so, but you never know. It could cause the thinner stretched skin to sag quicker.

May I ask how old you are?

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I'm 45. I also developed other scars after the dermabrasion. I've had a few subscisions. I bought the things to try TCA cross - just havent had the time. I may try that soon after reading the post about the lady who had TCA cross by the derm in Birmingham, AL. Actually, many people say that my skin doesn't look all that bad. I guess it is more normal for an older person to have larger pores. I notice that some of my friends have develped larger pores since we have gotten older. And the larger pores that I have are only on my nose and cheek area. The other skin looks great. But I could use a little liftin the cheeks as well as the eyelids. Maybe all the processing I've done to my skin has thinned it out and made it sag sooner than it should have. I was in my 30's when one derm suggested I may want to do a facelift one day - although I didn't really need one at the time. The thread lift you are referring to sounds interesting.

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even though im having my first isolagen treatment nxt month (and tca cross and sub two weeks after)..i have strongly considered some cosmetic surgery to help the apperance of my skin...

Face lift and even a thread lift i decided just seemed to extreme a start..esp seeing as it prob wouldnt help the scarring in the end anyway. But i do feel my gen appearance would look better with some kind of cosmetic treatment. Im considering having some kind of cheek enhancement..such as restalyne (er forget how u spell it). I think not only will this give some nice contours to my face but will help the appearance of the scars with the way light/shadow hits them. Really not sure, will need to check on the cost also but i believe it will be aroun £300-£500 and lasts for 1 yr. Will speak to a consultant soon.

THe only thing that worries me is that some ppl report that it can go lumpy :S..arghhh.

What im getting at is look at the alternatives. I think any cosmetic treatment will improve your scars but really only psychologically i think (which is no bad thing)..because anything that enhances the way you look or helps light to fall more kindly on your face will be uplifting emotionally. Maybe look into some non-surgical options that will give an indication of how the threads will affect your face and skin. I know that skilled cosmetic doctors can apparently get a lift effect using botox (numbing the correct muscle will cause the other muscles to 'lift' the skin) but you need a really specialised doc for this. I did try botox but only on my forehead to try it out..did really smooth it OMG! but didnt like the fact that it seemed a bit too frozen to me..plus when i got a pic taken i noticed that my beautiful smooth forehead just emphasised the scars and lines on the lower half of my face :(

gl with whatever you decide to do :)

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