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Why do I have scars developing more than ever? I dont have much acne or anything...

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Accutane does cause premature aging of the skin. That is a known fact.

How do you know this? I never heard this at all. I was just on tane. I hope I don't look older from it. :evil:

Very much so. You will notice that the accutane will cause creases to form in your cheeks were you smile, and above your eyebrows on your forehead. When you are getting this at age 24 you know you are getting premature aging.

The thing about accutane is that it works in two ways. First it shrinks the oil glands, and that is only part of what causes acne. Then second it works similiar to glycolic acid or other exfoliants. In that it causes the skin to produce less dead skin cells which together with oil clog the pores, and lead to the infection from the acne.

Basically if you have had severe acne for more then a couple of years the worst thing you can do is use accutane, because you will cause the existing scars to become much more depressed, and any acne that you do get in the future will scar far more because your skin is so weakened.

Maybe this is Gods way at getting back at us. Frankly she knows as well as anyone the effects of scarring. Before anyone judges me about my proffesion (this is not a joke, this is when you really realize what affect its had on your life, when you are turning tricks just to survive, let alone make good money) I know for a fact I would be in prison if I wasn't doing what I am doing.

Here is my philosophy; If there is a god, (which there isn't) then he made the choice to put us on this planet to look this way. By looking this way we do not have a fair shot at life in general. Therefore God, is a piece of -hit. And anything is permitted. You should break every rule, law and moral code to use it to your advantage, if you have been delt a hand this bad.

Otherwise you will end up in prison or dependant on someone else. I know that if I went to prison, and came out as an ex con with acne scarring I would end up back in prison, so why not just start breaking the law now and making real money???

I have no other option.

It doesn't even bother, I am actually extremely blessed compared to most people with this condition.

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Accutane does cause premature aging of the skin. That is a known fact.

How do you know this? I never heard this at all. I was just on tane. I hope I don't look older from it. :evil:

Very much so. You will notice that the accutane will cause creases to form in your cheeks were you smile, and above your eyebrows on your forehead. When you are getting this at age 24 you know you are getting premature aging.

The thing about accutane is that it works in two ways. First it shrinks the oil glands, and that is only part of what causes acne. Then second it works similiar to glycolic acid or other exfoliants. In that it causes the skin to produce less dead skin cells which together with oil clog the pores, and lead to the infection from the acne.

Basically if you have had severe acne for more then a couple of years the worst thing you can do is use accutane, because you will cause the existing scars to become much more depressed, and any acne that you do get in the future will scar far more because your skin is so weakened.

Maybe this is Gods way at getting back at us. Frankly she knows as well as anyone the effects of scarring. Before anyone judges me about my proffesion (this is not a joke, this is when you really realize what affect its had on your life, when you are turning tricks just to survive, let alone make good money) I know for a fact I would be in prison if I wasn't doing what I am doing.

Here is my philosophy; If there is a god, (which there isn't) then he made the choice to put us on this planet to look this way. By looking this way we do not have a fair shot at life in general. Therefore God, is a piece of -hit. And anything is permitted. You should break every rule, law and moral code to use it to your advantage, if you have been delt a hand this bad.

Otherwise you will end up in prison or dependant on someone else. I know that if I went to prison, and came out as an ex con with acne scarring I would end up back in prison, so why not just start breaking the law now and making real money???

I have no other option.

It doesn't even bother, I am actually extremely blessed compared to most people with this condition.

I haven't noticed any wrinkles around my mouth/cheeks or more on my forehead, unless I am about to peel from taz. If I get any pimples now, they are very short-lived and leave no redmarks or scars, where before, I scarred ALL the time from even the smallest pimple. I hope it stays this way as I'm sure you can imagine.

As far as your profession, I don't judge you at all. I do think you are being way too hard on yourself, though. Plenty of successful people have scarring, some have it very severely. You are giving up. The direction of your life is in your hands and has absolutely nothing to do with your skin. Remember that. Also remember that it's never to late to change courses and to take your life back. You are letting the scars win by allowing them to beat you down to the point that you think you are getting revenge on them by selling your body, but ultimately, that is your choice.

I think there is a God and having scarring doesn't convince me otherwise.

Good luck. :angel:

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When you are on Accutane (Roaccutan), remember to use lots of moisturazer, preferrably that kind which doesn't have any glycerin in it, so it should be water based.

Accutane for my experiences doesn't increase aging of the skin if you remember to keep it well moistured during the whole treatment. I think it even says in the instructions it is necessary because otherwise your skin will get too dry during the regime.

Why your scars are only now going indented:

It happened to me also. I had deep cystic acne for ~5 years which was treated and finally succesfully treated with Accutane. But the scars were so deep, that it took years them to fully mature after the actual cystic acne had stopped.

Until the scar tissue is not fully mature, it won't loose the extra blood veins and fibroblast cells which are in the healing tissue. When it is fully mature, those extra veins and fibroblasts vanish, same time shrinking the volume and making the scar indented if it is on the surface as it usually is with acne scars.

It really can take years for deep scars to mature and that's why some scars seem to go indented after couple of years when the actual infection and tissue damage was happening.

Just think about surgical scars, if whole thickness of the skin has been cut i.e. in the section of appendix. The scar can be red for 1 - N years. Eventually it will be lighter colored than the normal skin, but until it is not, it still has those extra blood veins and fibroblasts and the scar tissue hasn't reached maturity. The scar will eventually shrink at the same rate as the redness fades away (extra blood veins).

With cystic acne you may even not see how red the scar tissue underneath is, because the scar may be totally hidden underneath the "normal" skin.

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When you are on Accutane (Roaccutan), remember to use lots of moisturazer, preferrably that kind which doesn't have any glycerin in it, so it should be water based.

Glycerin is ideal for oily skin or dry skin, people do not break out from it. This is one of the best ingredients in a facial product - best moistruizers have plenty of glycerin and not a lot of chemical ingredients.

Just want to politely point that out and dont want people to get the wrong information on the internet.

Glycerin has a Comedogenicity rating of 0 (best it can have) and an Irritancy rating of 0 (best it can have).

Check out http://www.zerozits.com/Articles/acnedetect.htm

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I have never been on accutane. But I have taken large doses of B5 vitamin to control acne and reduce red marks which has worked a bit but i began scarring around the same time as i was taking it too..?? Don't think this could be related at all, but who knows?!?!

Basically, I'm scarring for no fucking reason and it's driving me crazy. I just noticed 5-6 new NOTICEABLE icepick and rolling scars in the last 3 months which have gotten much worse and worse.. and i'm not realizing where new ones are beginning as well.. i can already see them turning into big scars because that's what my current scars looked like before they came about... what the fuck is going on

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let me ask, especially for those of you who are continually breaking out: how many of you take time during your regimen to actually open up your pores and clean them out?

the best bet to combat acne after topicals and oral antibiotics is to get in a steaming room or a hot shower for about 20 minutes to open your pores and use a deep pore cleanser...pretty much any will do as long as it is a gentle exfoliator. the more open your pores are the greater the likelihood that even the crappiest of products that didn't work for you in the past, will work for you this time. The longer we apply one single topical or the more we use on our faces, the more clogged our pores become.

LET 'EM BREEEATH!! <--this ain't no repetitive junk!

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Glycerin is ideal for oily skin or dry skin, people do not break out from it. This is one of the best ingredients in a facial product - best moistruizers have plenty of glycerin and not a lot of chemical ingredients.

Glycerin has a Comedogenicity rating of 0 (best it can have) and an Irritancy rating of 0 (best it can have).

Check out http://www.zerozits.com/Articles/acnedetect.htm

Well for me, when I had active acne, glycerin based moistruizers clogged the pores and made more pimples. Dermatologist recommended me to use moisturazer which had butylene glycol instead of glycerin in it. That one was much better and I continued using it also after the active acne went away and I continued to use Accutane. Also it shouldn't have any fragrance in it, maybe little cetearyl alcohol to make it antibacterial also.

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Glycerin is ideal for oily skin or dry skin, people do not break out from it. This is one of the best ingredients in a facial product - best moistruizers have plenty of glycerin and not a lot of chemical ingredients.

Glycerin has a Comedogenicity rating of 0 (best it can have) and an Irritancy rating of 0 (best it can have).

Check out http://www.zerozits.com/Articles/acnedetect.htm

Well for me, when I had active acne, glycerin based moistruizers clogged the pores and made more pimples. Dermatologist recommended me to use moisturazer which had butylene glycol instead of glycerin in it. That one was much better and I continued using it also after the active acne went away and I continued to use Accutane. Also it shouldn't have any fragrance in it, maybe little cetearyl alcohol to make it antibacterial also.

I guess different people react to different chemicals in different ways. Check to see if it might be anything else that clogged your pores. The zerozits site has a good list. After reading that list, I scrapped some of the supposedly Non-comedengic products that I used and was wondering why I was still constantly break out after using it. Case in point is the DDF Matte Finish Photo-Age Protection SPF 30 with Octyl Palminate and Neutrogena Healthy Skin Enhancer Tinted Moisturizer with Isopropyl Isostearate as like the second ingredient . Why do they call it " Non-comedogenic" when it so obvious it is not?? That kind of makes me mad.

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I have never been on accutane. But I have taken large doses of B5 vitamin to control acne and reduce red marks which has worked a bit but i began scarring around the same time as i was taking it too..?? Don't think this could be related at all, but who knows?!?!

Basically, I'm scarring for no fucking reason and it's driving me crazy. I just noticed 5-6 new NOTICEABLE icepick and rolling scars in the last 3 months which have gotten much worse and worse.. and i'm not realizing where new ones are beginning as well.. i can already see them turning into big scars because that's what my current scars looked like before they came about... what the fuck is going on

I don't think vit B5 caused that. I've been on the vit B5 regimen for more than 2 years and have only seen good results from taking it. Although, I should let you know that the those I take now is very little.

Are you still taking vit B5?

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I am CONVINCED that I scar more because of either Aha acids or Differin. There is no doubt. I use to break out so much more (even when I was 25 years old) and no scars. But the moment I started messing with acids and differin, my face has turned to shit. I've had that experience where I wake up and there's a scar FROM NOWHERE! I NEVER pick my zits. I'm so careful. I"m telling you, it's the acid or the Differin. I finally wised up and now I just use Benzoyl peroxide all over my face along with a physcial exfoliator.

I only WISH I never used acids or differin.....live and learn...

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I have never been on accutane. But I have taken large doses of B5 vitamin to control acne and reduce red marks which has worked a bit but i began scarring around the same time as i was taking it too..?? Don't think this could be related at all, but who knows?!?!

Basically, I'm scarring for no fucking reason and it's driving me crazy. I just noticed 5-6 new NOTICEABLE icepick and rolling scars in the last 3 months which have gotten much worse and worse.. and i'm not realizing where new ones are beginning as well.. i can already see them turning into big scars because that's what my current scars looked like before they came about... what the fuck is going on

mate i am having the exact same problem atm. I have pretty much just turned 20 and i have had lazer resurfacing on my face about 9 months ago, and now all the scars are coming back.

i cleanse my face twice a day with an extra gentle cleanser. I have taken vitamin a, b, c, e and zinc. I also take heaps of protien powders and drink like 1 litre or milk a day. none which really helps scars.

i will just wake up one morning and look at my skin in the mirror, and bang, there is another scar which has formed or is starting to form and get bigger as the weeks or even days go on. not caused by a pimple or nothing. i'm talking big scars which a really noticable under sunlight and different angles. there definiatley below surface level.

i think this happens especially after a night out on the town, when i've been drinking alcohol.

i don't know where the scars are coming from. my face is just getting worse and worse everyday and it sucks. it seems to be happening a lot more to my right side of my face then my left. (my right has much more severe scaring then my left.)

i really don't know what can be done to fix my scars, as i'm never getting laser or even thinking about getting dermabrasion as the time it takes for your skin to heal and for you to be able to go out in public is just too long. especially when you have just started a new job.

i really do need to see the best skin specialist around. in brisbane australia!

i hope it would be as simple as injecting some fat under the skin or some colegen under the skin to bring the scars back up to surface level so they are not as noticeable.

but i really doubt that there is such an easy solution with minimum down time that will show great results.

i wish i could solve why i'm just getting scars for no reason. is it because the skin is lacking moisture? i really don't know. that's why i need to see the best, and hopefully there are some other good treatments out there that have minimum down time and good results.

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I am CONVINCED that I scar more because of either Aha acids or Differin. There is no doubt. I use to break out so much more (even when I was 25 years old) and no scars. But the moment I started messing with acids and differin, my face has turned to shit. I've had that experience where I wake up and there's a scar FROM NOWHERE! I NEVER pick my zits. I'm so careful. I"m telling you, it's the acid or the Differin. I finally wised up and now I just use Benzoyl peroxide all over my face along with a physcial exfoliator.

I only WISH I never used acids or differin.....live and learn...

im not sure about alpha hydroxy acids causing more scars.. ive been using one for over a monthj and it hasnt given me any scars.. but ive read that retinoids life differen can cause more scars.. this is a quote from skinbiologys site for retinoids .. "increases production of scar forming factor TGF-beta"

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I have never been on accutane. But I have taken large doses of B5 vitamin to control acne and reduce red marks which has worked a bit but i began scarring around the same time as i was taking it too..?? Don't think this could be related at all, but who knows?!?!

Basically, I'm scarring for no fucking reason and it's driving me crazy. I just noticed 5-6 new NOTICEABLE icepick and rolling scars in the last 3 months which have gotten much worse and worse.. and i'm not realizing where new ones are beginning as well.. i can already see them turning into big scars because that's what my current scars looked like before they came about... what the fuck is going on

I don't think vit B5 caused that. I've been on the vit B5 regimen for more than 2 years and have only seen good results from taking it. Although, I should let you know that the those I take now is very little.

Are you still taking vit B5?

I'm getting the same thing, think it may have something to do with B5, skin became real dry n sensitive (cheek area particulary) and I got scars got em on my jawline too, their like smooth n shiny tho. Skin doesnt seem to heal as well either hyperpigmenting easily, been using hydroxy acid also think that contributed, tried vinegar too. Wish I never used any of em Just need to throw all away cuz I get tempted to use em thinking they would help when I could be doing more damage. Gonna use real gentle cleanser now like cetaphil and moisturizers from now on and hope skin gets better.

Remember starting all of this cuz skin got real oily all of a sudden, and kept getting breakouts, wish I left it alone

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