Guest Cubsfan Share Posted September 27, 2005 okay this is what helped beat my acne and I'd like to share it with you guys.I simply eat any food that God created and avoid all man made food because God is perfect and Man is not. God made food out of love for humanity, Man re-made food through temptation and out of corporate greed.E.g of Gods food: fruits and vegetables provided by nature, natural spring water, 100% whole grainE.g of Man-Made Food: hot dogs, chips, chocolate, donuts, vegetable oil etc.Your body doesn't have to fight itself to metabolise natural food whereas your body works harder to metabolise man made food. In the process hormones are created within your body like insulin causing a chain reaction of events that leads to acne.God Bless yous all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfy 1 Share Posted September 27, 2005 okay this is what helped beat my acne and I'd like to share it with you guys.I simply eat any food that God created and avoid all man made food because God is perfect and Man is not. God made food out of love for humanity, Man re-made food through temptation and out of corporate greed.E.g of Gods food: fruits and vegetables provided by nature, organic meat, natural spring water, 100% whole grain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cubsfan Share Posted September 27, 2005 Here's an article on the relation between acne and processed food.Eating Your Way to AcneWestern diet blamed for proliferation of pimplesBy Serena GordonHealthScoutNews ReporterMONDAY, Dec. 16 (HealthScoutNews) -- The standard Western diet of refined sugars and starches may be more to blame for the high rates of acne than you'd think.That's the belief of an international team of researchers who suspect that highly processed foods, such as breads, cereals, chocolate and pizza, cause the body to produce high levels of insulin, which in turn leads to an excess of male hormones. Excess male hormones cause an overproduction of sebum -- the greasy stuff that blocks your pores -- and acne results."Acne can be psychologically devastating to a teen," says study author Loren Cordain, a professor of health and exercise science at Colorado State University.More important, he adds, "acne is just one small part of a larger health problem." The typical Western diet likely also contributes to heart disease and other ailments.According to the study, published in the December issue of the Archives of Dermatology , 79 percent to 95 percent of teens in Western societies have acne. Forty percent to 54 percent of those over 25 have it, and for Westerners in middle age, 12 percent of women and 3 percent of men still suffer from acne.Cordain says he became interested in the acne-food connection after reading an article about a tribe living in a non-developed part of the world whose members had no pimples until they were introduced to a Western diet.So, the researchers set out to study two pimple-free populations -- one from Papua New Guinea and the other from Paraguay. These primitive people live without electricity or running water and eat a decidedly non-Western diet. They eat only foods they can hunt, gather or grow.The researchers examined 1,200 (including 300 teens) Kitavan Islanders from Papua New Guinea and 115 (including 15 teens) Ache hunter-gatherers from Paraguay. They found no cases of acne in either population. In fact, the study says they found no pimples on any of those people studied."There was a startling lack of acne," Cordain says, and it wasn't a one-time effect. The researchers studied the Ache people for two years and never saw a single case of acne.Previous research had shown that when tribespeople such as those studied adopt a Western lifestyle, acne follows. So genetics couldn't be protecting the subjects of Cordain's research.That meant, he says, the lack of acne had something to do with their environment, and the only known environmental factor that could cause the excess of insulin, male hormones and overproduction of sebum seen in Western civilization is diet.Others, however, aren't so sure."If processed foods cause acne, why don't little kids and the elderly have acne?" asks Dr. Ted Daly, a dermatologist at Nassau University Medical Center in East Meadow, N.Y. Daly says he also finds it hard to believe that of the 1,200 people studied by Cordain's group, the researchers couldn't find one pimple or blackhead. If that's the case, Daly says, there is no proof that there isn't a genetic basis, or something else in the environment that accounts for their clear skin.Dr. Harry Saperstein, director of pediatric dermatology at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, says the Cordain theory is "an interesting starting point," but still hasn't been scientifically proven.Cordain, however, is convinced that the Western diet is at fault and recommends changing your diet to reduce acne and to improve overall health. He is quick to point out, though, that he's not advocating any of the popular high-protein diets, because they're often high in saturated fat..... link to article: http://www.hon.ch/News/HSN/510803.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stephsteph 0 Share Posted September 27, 2005 - Our body doesn't function properly without insulin, why do you think DIABETES is such a problem?- The brain needs a steady source of glucose to work properly. Glucose doesn't necessarily have to come from "sugary" foods or the like.- You can't simply say that all processed foods are bad. Some are obviously bad, as they've been optimized for taste/convience/cost etc. The needs of the consumer and the capabilities of the production equipment/technical abilities of the food manufacturing personnel will often override the need to make a product nutritious - if that is one of the manufacturer's goals. Certain nutrients, such as vitamins and minerals, are often added to the product towards the end of the production run to replace any nutrients lost during processing. It's impossible to do this for nutrients such as fibre, for obvious reasons.- Food processing and manufacturing enables people living in remote locations to eat food that is nourishing (*GASP*) and safe to consume. - Manufacturers will not proceed with the development of a product unless there's an obvious market for it. - Functional foods (ie probiotics, omega 3 enriched products etc) are often touted as being godsends - particularly on this forum. Functional foods are highly processed.- The whole hunter/gatherer diet isn't perfect - our own Aborigines consumed a diet that was too high in protein and too low in calcium.Just my 2 cents.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cubsfan Share Posted September 28, 2005 You do need certain amounts of sugar in the body. Just like there are good oils and bad oils, there are good sugars and bad sugars. If you take in sugars found in natural foods instead of refined sugar your body doesn't work as hard to metabolise those sugars. All I know is that if I stick to just eating natural foods I never get acne and never get sick (not even a cold). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanmi 2 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Somehow, I just still will not believe diet has an affect on acne. Look at the Japanese, some of the healthiest people on earth, and the majority of the Japanese population suffers from acne. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SnowSurfer1492 0 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Compare the japanese to people that are secluded such as those in african tribes, then you will see a big difference. I'm not sure if you know this but the Japanese are become a very westernized culture. Tokyo is one of the heaviest populated areas on this earth and they are adopting a stressful and more western cultured lifestyle. Things like McDonalds are becoming very prominent over there as it is a fast fix to hunger, I heavily believe that diet and living conditions contribute to acne, they may or may not cause it directly, but I know for a fact that it definitely can makes things worse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cubsfan Share Posted September 28, 2005 Hi kanmi,The Okinawans were and still are the healthiest group of people in the world. Before WW2 they never had any acne as they lived in a rural society, never influenced by the West until after WW2.Here this study might give you a better understanding. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfy 1 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Somehow, I just still will not believe diet has an affect on acne. Look at the Japanese, some of the healthiest people on earth, and the majority of the Japanese population suffers from acne.← Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turista 0 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Here's an article on the relation between acne and processed food."Acne can be psychologically devastating to a teen," says study author Loren Cordain, a professor of health and exercise science at Colorado State University. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SnowSurfer1492 0 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I am pretty convinced now that diet plays a very big role in acne. It has been about 8 weeks now since I completely turned my diet around. I work out all the time, I take alot of vitamins, have about 4-6 tbp's of EFA a day, eat alot of vegetables, fruits, and eat alot of chicken and rice. Ever since I started this my acne on my back and chest is completely gone (not to mention ive gained 11 pounds of muscle )! My acne on my face is disappearing remarkabely fast as well it is awesome, for those who don't believe diet has an affect on acne, I think it's time you reconsider. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tonedog 0 Share Posted September 29, 2005 i get moderate acne on my face but its quite bad on my back n shoulders.so what foods do u eat every day? im about 10 days into to diet change. i used to drink abut 7-10 cups of tea/coffee a day which is a lot of caffeine and sugar. ive heard dairy products are bad as well so i havent touched any mild/sugar etc for 10 days. how long before i see a difference? ive been told at least 2 weeks.my usual diet is bacon rolls for breakfast or on occasion a fryed breakfast, 2 apples a day, italian pastas, for eg lasagne, canneloni, bread and potatoes + veg.ive been told potatoes, bread and cereals can be bad. surely not!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SnowSurfer1492 0 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Hey, its important to remember to drink at least 86 oz. of water a day as well. I would just buy a water bottle that indicates the oz. on it and fill it up so that you drink 86 oz. of water a day. I have nothing to do with dairy on this diet as I am now very opposed to any dairy products (I take calcium pills for my calcium intake). Every day I eat bananas, at least 4 tbsp's of Flax Oil, Multivitamin, 4 Vitamin C, Calcium tablet, 14 oz. of chicken, rice, brocolli, carrots, cellery and apples. I avoid ALL processed foods and fast foods, absolutely in no circumstance is eating processed/fried foods acceptable in my diet. It's taken about 2-3 weeks for me to see changes, but they are coming fast and I believe your diet is a very important factor in your acne. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turista 0 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Hey, its important to remember to drink at least 86 oz. of water a day as well. I would just buy a water bottle that indicates the oz. on it and fill it up so that you drink 86 oz. of water a day. I have nothing to do with dairy on this diet as I am now very opposed to any dairy products (I take calcium pills for my calcium intake). Every day I eat bananas, at least 4 tbsp's of Flax Oil, Multivitamin, 4 Vitamin C, Calcium tablet, 14 oz. of chicken, rice, brocolli, carrots, cellery and apples. I avoid ALL processed foods and fast foods, absolutely in no circumstance is eating processed/fried foods acceptable in my diet. It's taken about 2-3 weeks for me to see changes, but they are coming fast and I believe your diet is a very important factor in your acne.← Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave909 0 Share Posted September 30, 2005 I knew God was a Cubs fan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cubsfan Share Posted September 30, 2005 This is all I have eaten for the past 2 + years:Lean meats like lamb, pork, fish, seafoods, eggs etc. avoid processed meat like bacon and sausagesAll fruits and vegetables (avoiding processed fruits and vegetables in tin cans etc.)Drink only water and natural fruit & vegetable juices (just grab a bunch of fruit & veg. and chuck it in a juicer machine)So its basically eating only lean meats, fruits, vegetables and water - all natural and organic.I've never been sick for the past 2 years not even a cold and I usually get sick like 3-4 times in a year before going on the diet. This diet improves your overall health than just beat acne."....have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth....Here I have given to you all vegetation bearing seed which is on the surface of the whole earth and every tree on which there is the fruit of a tree bearing seed. To you let it serve as food " Genesis Chapt. 1 Verse 28-29 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cubsfan Share Posted September 30, 2005 I knew God was a Cubs fan. :lol2:← Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turista 0 Share Posted September 30, 2005 This is all I have eaten for the past 2 + years:Lean meats like lamb, pork, fish, seafoods, eggs etc. avoid processed meat like bacon and sausagesAll fruits and vegetables (avoiding processed fruits and vegetables in tin cans etc.)Drink only water and natural fruit & vegetable juices (just grab a bunch of fruit & veg. and chuck it in a juicer machine)So its basically eating only lean meats, fruits, vegetables and water - all natural and organic.I've never been sick for the past 2 years not even a cold and I usually get sick like 3-4 times in a year before going on the diet. This diet improves your overall health than just beat acne."....have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth....Here I have given to you all vegetation bearing seed which is on the surface of the whole earth and every tree on which there is the fruit of a tree bearing seed. To you let it serve as food " Genesis Chapt. 1 Verse 28-29← Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cubsfan Share Posted September 30, 2005 That's a good site you provided Turista, was trying to find a site like that for ages.You can get natural carbs from the sweeter fruits, banana, apples, oranges etc.I may be wrong but your body burns refined carbs more quickly thus giving you short-term energy boosts and your left lethargic afterwards unless you take in more refined carbs. Thats why kids go hypo when they eat lollies, coke etc.With nautural carbs your body burns them slowly giving you energy throughout the day, not just a short-period of time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turista 0 Share Posted September 30, 2005 That's a good site you provided Turista, was trying to find a site like that for ages.You can get natural carbs from the sweeter fruits, banana, apples, oranges etc.I may be wrong but your body burns refined carbs more quickly thus giving you short-term energy boosts and your left lethargic afterwards unless you take in more refined carbs. Thats why kids go hypo when they eat lollies, coke etc.With nautural carbs your body burns them slowly giving you energy throughout the day, not just a short-period of time.← Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Suje 0 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Yeah, you could go on diet. BUT HOW LONG ........ 1 year or 2 or 3...... after while you will regret. Take me for example, I used to eat lots of meat because I work out. Now I stopped completly eating meat product cause of too much acne, thinking that meat gives you acne. Now all of a sudden, I am reading that milk is bad for you too. Well, I dont understand I thought you need meat + dairy to live healthy. Not everyone can live on eating vege and fruits all there life. People like me who works out, we need atleast some of dairy and meat to consume or else our body is screwed.....and I do not want to freak some of you guys out there who are eating lots of carrot knowing that it gives you lots of Vitamine A. I heard that carrot lowers your sperm level for guys. WEll better think of that too...Eventually at the end you are going to get like people saying dont eat that, dont eat this. Well I am tired of all this. I tried everything from old fashioned medicine where I put special leaves on my face to pills. Now finally the skin specialist told me to take ACCUTINE ... the god...... it works and I could get of this miserable acne for rest of my life.Heathly diet is good....when you combine Meat+Dairy+Vegetables: if you looks at food chain you need all these in order to live long and healthy. If you decide to go on diet and eat only vege and fruits. Good luck, not everyone can do that. Ater a while you will start notising changes in you body. Mostly like *tirdness cause of lack of proten and other things you need in your body.I was 130 pounds and now I went to 115 because of frekin people telling me to go on diet At the end I made body weaker that's all... Well I dont want to destroy anyone hopes ..... If you want to stick with vegi and fruits GOOD LUCK.....PS* Thank God I got a GIRL FRIEND ALL READYSuje Out... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turista 0 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Well I dont want to destroy anyone hopes ..... If you want to stick with vegi and fruits GOOD LUCK.....Suje Out...← Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cubsfan Share Posted October 8, 2005 I found it difficult to stick to an all natural diet at first because I was always tempted to indulge myself in ice-cream, chips, pizza etc. But I realise that if I continue to eat crap I'll have to live with acne for the rest of my life. I hate living with acne so I started to hate proccessed food and love natural food only that's when I made a life-changing decision. You can't be a slave to two masters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vnusboi 1 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Yeah, you could go on diet. BUT HOW LONG ........ 1 year or 2 or 3...... after while you will regret. Take me for example, I used to eat lots of meat because I work out. Now I stopped completly eating meat product cause of too much acne, thinking that meat gives you acne. Now all of a sudden, I am reading that milk is bad for you too. Well, I dont understand I thought you need meat + dairy to live healthy. Not everyone can live on eating vege and fruits all there life. People like me who works out, we need atleast some of dairy and meat to consume or else our body is screwed.....and I do not want to freak some of you guys out there who are eating lots of carrot knowing that it gives you lots of Vitamine A. I heard that carrot lowers your sperm level for guys. WEll better think of that too...Eventually at the end you are going to get like people saying dont eat that, dont eat this. Well I am tired of all this. I tried everything from old fashioned medicine where I put special leaves on my face to pills. Now finally the skin specialist told me to take ACCUTINE ... the god...... it works and I could get of this miserable acne for rest of my life.Heathly diet is good....when you combine Meat+Dairy+Vegetables: if you looks at food chain you need all these in order to live long and healthy. If you decide to go on diet and eat only vege and fruits. Good luck, not everyone can do that. Ater a while you will start notising changes in you body. Mostly like *tirdness cause of lack of proten and other things you need in your body.I was 130 pounds and now I went to 115 because of frekin people telling me to go on diet At the end I made body weaker that's all... Well I dont want to destroy anyone hopes ..... If you want to stick with vegi and fruits GOOD LUCK.....PS* Thank God I got a GIRL FRIEND ALL READYSuje Out...← Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cubsfan Share Posted October 11, 2005 Its in the first chapter of Genesis"Here I have given to you all vegetation bearing seed which is on the surface of the whole earth and every tree on which there is the fruit of a tree bearing seed. To you let it serve as food " Genesis Chapt. 1 Verse 29God is a loving god and has your best interests at heart. This diet is no more extreme than any other diet. Which view is more extreme? A diet that advocates eating only food that is provided by nature? or a diet that advocates eating only man-made food? If the latter is true, then are you not judging yourself and the majority of people on this earth as extremists? You hypocrite! Truly I tell you, you should be grateful for the food and spiritual food that our heavenly father has provided. Quote Link to post Share on other sites