Help with treatment options? I have really bad atrophic scars

[Wij611 1]

Hi, I've been lurking in this site for a few days now. The site is helping me understand my scars more, but I'm still not sure what treatments I should take. I've had 3 fraxel sessions in the past and it did next to nothing. I heard that Dr. Rullan is a great choice for atrophic scar treatment, and I'm thinking of doing a few sessions with him. 

Edited July 6 by Wij611

[Wij611 1]

I've heard people say that rullan is not very good for deep scars and dr. Tylor in Utah would do much better for deep scarring. 

[getsmart121 329]

If people have moderate to shallow dr rullan methods are safe. If you have severe atrophy than Goto dr Taylor. The thing is he goes aggressive. Like Taylor Subcision.

onky thing aggressive I can think is phenol peel but still I believe this peel is more of a regenerative thing rather than sanding the skin. Some scars will respond and some won’t.

go for Taylor Subcision and then full ablation.

Edited May 24 by getsmart121

[Wij611 1]

I'm not sure what counts as deep scars? Most of the people I've seen taking Taylor liberator seem to have deeper scars than me.

[Wij611 1]

@getsmart121 should I really be doing Taylor liberator + fully ablative for my first treatment? I heard it's really risky, you could develop semi permanent lumps and long hyperpigmentation/hypopigmentation.

[getsmart121 329]

If you have deep rolling scars that’s is the best you can do. I don’t think cannula can really break tethers completely. Pus you might need more session if the lumps resolve in 2 months you only need one session. But for cannula you need atleast 4 sessions and then also you don’t know if the tethers are completely broken. As long as the side effects are temporary, the goal should be fixing the problem. In general it takes time for your body to grow collagen after doing the right treatment 

Edited May 30 by getsmart121

[Catharsis2018 89]

On 5/24/2022 at 3:41 PM, Wij611 said:

I'm not sure what counts as deep scars? Most of the people I've seen taking Taylor liberator seem to have deeper scars than me.

care to share some photos?

[catchingFeelings 11]

On 5/30/2022 at 5:30 PM, getsmart121 said:

Derin yuvarlanan yara izleriniz varsa, yapabileceğiniz en iyi şey budur. Kanülün ipleri tamamen kırabileceğini sanmıyorum. Pus 2 ay içinde düzelirse daha fazla seansa ihtiyacınız olabilir, sadece bir seansa ihtiyacınız vardır. Ancak kanül için en az 4 seansa ihtiyacınız var ve sonra iplerin tamamen kopup kopmadığını da bilmiyorsunuz. Yan etkiler geçici olduğu sürece amaç sorunu çözmek olmalıdır. Genel olarak, doğru tedaviyi yaptıktan sonra vücudunuzun kolajen üretmesi zaman alır. 

Is TL effective on forehead scars?

Edited July 11 by catchingFeelings

[getsmart121 329]

I have seen dr Taylor use it on forehead on his videos. Usually after cutting the tethering the body doesn’t create much collagen. So best thing is to use filler. I personally saw great improvement with this method.

[kelby 6]

So I just had a Taylor subcision by one of his mentees, Dr. Gandhi in Ohio, as well as a Fractional CO2 (Fraxel:Repair) in one combined treatment that he does 12 days ago. I have pretty significant atrophic scarring in a bunch of places for reference.

Results from the liberator will be immediate once the swelling is gone (don't let the swelling get your hopes up too high - a lot of scarring will come back), and he definitely will use the liberator on your forehead. A nurse had to hold my head in place while the doc tore into it, and it almost sounded like velcro ripping. My forehead looks noticeably better at the moment, so you'll definitely get results there.

Other than that, I haven't noticed any major side effects. If you get a laser as well, you're basically gonna have to leave the world for a week as you'll have to keep a thick layer of ointment on while washing regularly also while getting zero sun. At about day 6, I looked about normal but very red. After day 7, I got to stop with the ointment and just do moisturizer. Since Dr. Gandhi trained under Taylor, I'm assuming its a similar deal. I went back to work yesterday but still very red, and I'll probably be red for 3-4 weeks total. Of course, full results take 2-3 months so not really sure what the final improvement will be.

[catchingFeelings 11]

4 hours ago, kelby said:

Bu yüzden, Ohio'daki mentilerinden biri olan Dr. Gandhi'den Taylor subsizyonu ve onun 12 gün önce yaptığı birleşik tedavide Fraksiyonel CO2 (Fraxel:Repair) aldım. Referans için bir sürü yerde oldukça belirgin atrofik yara izim var.

Kurtarıcıdan gelen sonuçlar, şişlik gittiğinde hemen olacaktır (şişmenin umutlarınızı fazla yükseltmesine izin vermeyin - çok fazla yara izi geri gelecektir) ve kesinlikle alnınızdaki kurtarıcıyı kullanacaktır. Doktor kafasını karıştırırken bir hemşire kafamı yerinde tutmak zorunda kaldı ve neredeyse cırt cırtlı yırtılma gibi geliyordu. Şu anda alnım gözle görülür şekilde daha iyi görünüyor, bu yüzden kesinlikle orada sonuç alacaksınız.

Bunun dışında önemli bir yan etki görmedim. Bir lazer de alırsanız, temelde bir haftalığına dünyayı terk etmeniz gerekecek, çünkü sıfır güneş alırken düzenli olarak yıkarken kalın bir merhem tabakası tutmanız gerekecek. 6. günde, normal ama çok kırmızı görünüyordum. 7. günden sonra, merhemi bırakmam ve sadece nemlendirici yapmam gerekiyor. Dr. Gandhi, Taylor altında eğitim aldığından, bunun benzer bir anlaşma olduğunu varsayıyorum. Dün işe geri döndüm ama hala çok kırmızı ve muhtemelen 3-4 hafta boyunca kırmızı olacağım. Tabii ki, tam sonuçlar 2-3 ay sürer, bu yüzden nihai gelişmenin ne olacağından emin değilim.

I hope everything turns out the way you want. Can you tell me which ointment you used after the treatment?