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10 hours ago, Tonitrus09 said:

I agree with you...but I am not seeing any improvement in my own scars after months of treatments...so I am wondering if filler is sometimes necessary to get a result - ANY result.  :(

I personally don't go fillers because I exercise every day. Being physically active can lead the filler to disappear faster. So not an option for me.

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On 3/22/2021 at 2:59 PM, Tonitrus09 said:

I agree with you...but I am not seeing any improvement in my own scars after months of treatments...so I am wondering if filler is sometimes necessary to get a result - ANY result.  :(

Absolutely. Try consulting with a specialist about fillers and getting the procedure done with the mindset of seeing how your scars respond.

I remember I got temporary fillers once  (Filler brand was Revanesse?) and I didn’t see the improvement I had expected to make the fillers necessary. I remember specifically looking at my reflection in a tinted car window at an angle and I didn’t see much change and it leaving the notation in my mind that fillers were not my solution to scar improvement. This was my personal assessment. 
 

Perhaps I am optimistically delusional about scars improving more overtime than what fillers can offer in a short time so with that said take my judgments about fillers with a grain of salt.
 

Overall, I am a major advocate for trying new methods/procedures and seeing how you feel about how it affects your scars. I want you to find what works for you and what your scars respond best to, and that happens with you exploring the methods that are offered. Of course, I would never ever advise for you to get permanent filler because it’s against my personal belief about scar revision as well as permanent fillers for some people tend to have negative side effects that require to be surgically removed years after having it placed or other negative side effects. So if you can leave with one thing from this text post is to try new methods, in this case temporary fillers, and see how you feel it affects the appearance of your scars. 
 

if you see some typos, I’m sorry, I type rather fast and don’t usually revise due to being impatient. 

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On 2/21/2021 at 12:39 AM, Amanda Hall said:

Lim has lots of YouTube followers. It's great that he's providing knowledge to the public, but his followers only get fed the good stuff. Lim is like many doctors in that he only posts his really good results. Most people don't know that he's gotten a number of negative reviews. He does seem to have a bit of an arrogance that is good and bad. He seems like the type who will brag about all of his good results, but will make excuses when his procedures don't work. His reviews bear this out.

Heard Benham's price for TCA Cross and was taken aback. If applying TCA brings him that much money, he doesn't need lasers.....

Rullan jacked his price up manyfold mostly like due to demand. He's good for subcision and Phenol Cross but his place is probably not the place you want to go to for lasers and fillers.

Why is Dr. Rullan’s practice “not the place you want to go to for lasers and fillers” ? I’m curious  

 

I went to see Dr. Ben Benham at the end of February 2021. If I remember correctly, for subcision, he said *each* cheek/side would be about $1,000. For TCA CROSS, he said each session would be $800 for the entire face. The prices are insane IMO, especially if you’re someone who is looking at multiple sessions due to deeper and more severe scarring. His consultation is $200. You do meet with Dr. Behnam during the consultation. Some may say he is a bit quick and seems to be in a rush. However, he did answer my questions and was quite friendly and to the point. He didn’t try to sell me on any procedures. All prices are in USD, btw. On the other hand Dr. Rullan offers a free both virtual and/or in person consultation. I did both. The consultations are with Amy Bernal who is very qualified. If the consultation is virtual, Amy will ask you to provide some photos of your skin in angled lighting. She’ll show Dr. Rullan, get his opinion, relay the message back to you, and go over your options, pricing, and answer any questions you may have. I believe the online consultation lasted about 30 minutes. For the in person consult the same applies except Dr. Rullan will come in to examine your skin and give you his opinion then and there. I saw Dr. Rullan for maybe 10 minutes but he was quite thorough. I spent maybe an hour to an hour and a half going over things with Amy. Overall, I felt like Amy and Dr. Rullan explained everything to me, answered all of my questions (a LOT of questions), and made me feel at ease. The treatment I was recommended was the “Quattro” consisting of Phenol CROSS, subcision with filler to avoid retethering, and Erbium laser. They said I would probably only need one session of the “Quattro.” Depending on how “picky” (they didn’t use this term but idk how else to explain it) I am, maybe I would want a few more sessions of CROSS. The total for this treatment is $1,999. It is expensive but compared to getting all treatments done separately somewhere else, it is a fair price. Take Dr. Behnam as an example, if you were to get each side/cheek done, subcision alone would set you back $2,000. Personally, out of the two doctors I mentioned, I would recommend Dr. Rullan because of the experience and the pricing. I was able to set up two free consultations that lasted in total about 2 hours and get all my questions answered very thoroughly. Acne scar revision is going to be expensive no matter what so you want to make sure you’re spending your money wisely meaning on the correct treatment(s) for you and with one of the most qualified doctors. Driving 2-ish hours from LA to Chula Vista is worth it to me. I have my treatment scheduled for this Wednesday. Wish me luck! 

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9 hours ago, PeanutPinatsu said:

Why is Dr. Rullan’s practice “not the place you want to go to for lasers and fillers” ? I’m curious  

 

I went to see Dr. Ben Benham at the end of February 2021. If I remember correctly, for subcision, he said *each* cheek/side would be about $1,000. For TCA CROSS, he said each session would be $800 for the entire face. The prices are insane IMO, especially if you’re someone who is looking at multiple sessions due to deeper and more severe scarring. His consultation is $200. You do meet with Dr. Behnam during the consultation. Some may say he is a bit quick and seems to be in a rush. However, he did answer my questions and was quite friendly and to the point. He didn’t try to sell me on any procedures. All prices are in USD, btw. On the other hand Dr. Rullan offers a free both virtual and/or in person consultation. I did both. The consultations are with Amy Bernal who is very qualified. If the consultation is virtual, Amy will ask you to provide some photos of your skin in angled lighting. She’ll show Dr. Rullan, get his opinion, relay the message back to you, and go over your options, pricing, and answer any questions you may have. I believe the online consultation lasted about 30 minutes. For the in person consult the same applies except Dr. Rullan will come in to examine your skin and give you his opinion then and there. I saw Dr. Rullan for maybe 10 minutes but he was quite thorough. I spent maybe an hour to an hour and a half going over things with Amy. Overall, I felt like Amy and Dr. Rullan explained everything to me, answered all of my questions (a LOT of questions), and made me feel at ease. The treatment I was recommended was the “Quattro” consisting of Phenol CROSS, subcision with filler to avoid retethering, and Erbium laser. They said I would probably only need one session of the “Quattro.” Depending on how “picky” (they didn’t use this term but idk how else to explain it) I am, maybe I would want a few more sessions of CROSS. The total for this treatment is $1,999. It is expensive but compared to getting all treatments done separately somewhere else, it is a fair price. Take Dr. Behnam as an example, if you were to get each side/cheek done, subcision alone would set you back $2,000. Personally, out of the two doctors I mentioned, I would recommend Dr. Rullan because of the experience and the pricing. I was able to set up two free consultations that lasted in total about 2 hours and get all my questions answered very thoroughly. Acne scar revision is going to be expensive no matter what so you want to make sure you’re spending your money wisely meaning on the correct treatment(s) for you and with one of the most qualified doctors. Driving 2-ish hours from LA to Chula Vista is worth it to me. I have my treatment scheduled for this Wednesday. Wish me luck! 

He's not known for lasers. Not saying he's bad but people don't go to him for that. I've had laser treatment there and it's nowhere close to aggressive so you are not going to see dramatic results. You'll need to do this a number of times to equal even one fractional CO2 treatment. I don't know about fillers but I'm just saying what other veteran members have said.

Don't know if Benham is good or bad but his costs are ridiculous. He's on YouTube. Not sure if he does anything differently than 90% of other doctors in terms of application. TCA Cross is pretty much dip and dab.

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On 4/25/2021 at 1:39 PM, PeanutPinatsu said:

Driving 2-ish hours from LA to Chula Vista is worth it to me. I have my treatment scheduled for this Wednesday. Wish me luck! 

Best of luck with your treatments!! Keep us posted :) I am also planning on seeing Dr. Rullan this summer so I can't wait to see how it goes for you!

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On 4/27/2021 at 8:29 AM, Tonitrus09 said:

Best of luck with your treatments!! Keep us posted :) I am also planning on seeing Dr. Rullan this summer so I can't wait to see how it goes for you!

Indeed! I am also excited to know the results. Hope it works best. 

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