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15 hours ago, Sisi90 said:

Yeah, Dr Emer has bad reviews I've heard. I understand if Dr Lim doesn't want to speak badly of his colleagues, but to actively recommend such who don't have their patients' best interest at heart is not the smartest thing to do, in my books. And it's not just about the money, even though for £5k you can have lots of other better treatments.

You personally know from our discussions that I will always say find a qualified professional and go to them before you treat yourself, but I just hate it when people fall prey to individuals, who are in it for the money and not to help people.

 My scars are not very bad but still cause me many problems and suffering, and when I see here people who have it much worse I can't understand how anyone can take advantage of them and call themselves a doctor! Not only they don't help but they are also fully aware that their aggressive treatments cause further damage and just don't care. Primum non nocere, dear "doctors", primum non nocere! 

Lim also has bad reviews but his well-known presence overshadows them.

Emer tells patients that they need scar treatments for life. This is unrealistic and just a money-grab statement. He also tells them that light lasers should be done once or multiple times per year as upkeep. SERIOUSLY??? He's the type of doctor students need not look up to when becoming medical professionals. Unfortunately, there are many other doctors like this except that they hide their greed better.

Aggressive treatments CAN cause further damage. However, they can make a hell of a difference. We will disagree on this but I'm a patient who benefitted from aggressive treatment as I documented before. I did get new scars but my existing ones did soften up.

5 hours ago, Sirius Lee said:

Guys, Lim collaborates with Emil in Denmark, not Emer in California (eg. the "Beverly Hills" doc).

 

See Miro's post below yours. 

Lim recommends Emer on RealSelf. Lim knows that there's money to be made in the business so he doesn't shun guys like Emer because Lim probably has the same goals.

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3 hours ago, Sirius Lee said:

Oh, that's a shocker. Anyway, I stand corrected. Thanks.

Lim also cooperates with Dr Emil of course.

Also I dlike to ask u what u think of Radiesse ? Looks like compared to HA fillers its more expensive lasts longer , but if side effect like lump occurs its really a problem .

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All of the Doctors that are Recommended on this Plattform are working together really? Did they create this Plattform ? Emer is for sure only after the money and if Lim works with him well who knows how Lim is for real. 

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1 hour ago, Stef3000 said:

All of the Doctors that are Recommended on this Plattform are working together really? Did they create this Plattform ? Emer is for sure only after the money and if Lim works with him well who knows how Lim is for real. 

No they didnt, but they are interested in this forum, thats normal 

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7 minutes ago, Noa27 said:

Wow, Lim his reviews are really bad. 

Well i red it, mostly reviews talk about fact that his is very arrogant, kinda fake personality, he acts diff. on social media and diff. in persona, also many reviews are talking about fact that he treats patients like second class citizen, well if he was able deliver 80% improvement like his site says he can treat me like slave in Egypt building pyramids lol, but many reviews actualy say that he is not able to deliver what he promises in his videos and thats all PR and media hype. At least thats what i red .

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13 hours ago, Miro said:

Lim also cooperates with Dr Emil of course.

Also I dlike to ask u what u think of Radiesse ? Looks like compared to HA fillers its more expensive lasts longer , but if side effect like lump occurs its really a problem .

Radiesse is a great filler, that is, as long as it's injected correctly. As you might already know, Radiesse is a calcium-based biostimulant that helps your body to produce its own collagen. So it's more similar to Sculptra than hyaluronic fillers like Juvederm. Although more expensive than HA fillers, I believe it is cheaper over the long run since it lasts longer. Then there's the added bonus of collagen synthesis. Unfortunately, it is not reversible. So for any side-effects you might encounter, you're pretty much out of luck. Hence, it's critical to find a skilled injector.

What I normally do is first get HA filler. If the injector is crappy, I move on to another injector. Once I find somebody I'm happy with (at least 2 top-ups), I would then consider upgrading to Radiesse or Sculptra.

BTW you should NEVER use Radiesse as a post-subcision spacer.

Hope that helps.

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1 minute ago, Sirius Lee said:

 

BTW you should NEVER use Radiesse as a post-subcision spacer.

Hope that helps.

Why is that ? Stef3000 has problems with radiesse that was injected right after subcision , i m sure he d like to know too Why never to use it after subc ?

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3 minutes ago, Miro said:

Why is that ? Stef3000 has problems with radiesse that was injected right after subcision , i m sure he d like to know too Why never to use it after subc ?

Radiesse is supposed to be injected subdermally, much deeper than HA fillers. Spacer, on the other hand, should be injected superficially just beneath the pit to prevent re-tethering. So HA is more suitable than Radiesse for this purpose. 

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13 hours ago, Sirius Lee said:

Radiesse is supposed to be injected subdermally, much deeper than HA fillers. Spacer, on the other hand, should be injected superficially just beneath the pit to prevent re-tethering. So HA is more suitable than Radiesse for this purpose. 

Does this mean that the doctor did inject radiesse in the wrong area ? 
he told me that he would create a pocket with the subcision and inject the radiesse in that area. Isn’t the subcision procedure deep in the skin ?

that means that I have lumps because he injected it to superficial or maybe my scars did tether back together because he did inject in deep under the scar and pushed the thethers together. No matter what happend, something went really wrong. Is the collagen that is produced with radiesse scar tissue ? Am I know stuck with the raddiesse and my bad scars ? Because the doctor wanted to give me some steroid injections, but i did read that this might not help with radiesse. 
does anyone have an other solution ?  
 

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9 hours ago, Stef3000 said:

Does this mean that the doctor did inject radiesse in the wrong area ? 
he told me that he would create a pocket with the subcision and inject the radiesse in that area. Isn’t the subcision procedure deep in the skin ?

that means that I have lumps because he injected it to superficial or maybe my scars did tether back together because he did inject in deep under the scar and pushed the thethers together. No matter what happend, something went really wrong. Is the collagen that is produced with radiesse scar tissue ? Am I know stuck with the raddiesse and my bad scars ? Because the doctor wanted to give me some steroid injections, but i did read that this might not help with radiesse. 
does anyone have an other solution ?  
 

Sorry, but I don't want to second-guess what happened. This is something that you and your doctor needs to work out. However, I do believe using Radiesse as a spacer was a poor choice.

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On 12/22/2020 at 2:57 AM, Amanda Hall said:

Lim also has bad reviews but his well-known presence overshadows them.

Emer tells patients that they need scar treatments for life. This is unrealistic and just a money-grab statement. He also tells them that light lasers should be done once or multiple times per year as upkeep. SERIOUSLY??? He's the type of doctor students need not look up to when becoming medical professionals. Unfortunately, there are many other doctors like this except that they hide their greed better.

Aggressive treatments CAN cause further damage. However, they can make a hell of a difference. We will disagree on this but I'm a patient who benefitted from aggressive treatment as I documented before. I did get new scars but my existing ones did soften up.

See Miro's post below yours. 

Lim recommends Emer on RealSelf. Lim knows that there's money to be made in the business so he doesn't shun guys like Emer because Lim probably has the same goals.

I am talking about unneccesarily hard core procedures like TL subcision and full ablation and the 'docs' who do them. They do overly aggressive risky precedures with the sole purpose of maximizing profit with minimal effort when they could be doing cannula, tca cross, fractional lasers, etc. mostly manual things that are proven to work. Everybody can do a simple search on Google and read what the medical studies show are the best treatments for acne scars. Yeah, H, Lim, Emer would be better off as sharks on Wall Street judging by the way they care mostly about their profit over the well-being of people. It's insufferable how they take advantage of people. 

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On 12/21/2020 at 11:06 PM, Stef3000 said:

All of the Doctors that are Recommended on this Plattform are working together really? Did they create this Plattform ? Emer is for sure only after the money and if Lim works with him well who knows how Lim is for real. 

You never know and I'm sure he'll never reveal his true intentions.

 

On 12/22/2020 at 6:27 AM, Noa27 said:

Wow, Lim his reviews are really bad. 

Most people don't see these. They just see his YouTube videos and think he's amazing.

 

On 12/22/2020 at 6:37 AM, Miro said:

Well i red it, mostly reviews talk about fact that his is very arrogant, kinda fake personality, he acts diff. on social media and diff. in persona, also many reviews are talking about fact that he treats patients like second class citizen, well if he was able deliver 80% improvement like his site says he can treat me like slave in Egypt building pyramids lol, but many reviews actualy say that he is not able to deliver what he promises in his videos and thats all PR and media hype. At least thats what i red .

People base their opinion of him off of YouTube videos. The thing with YouTube is that you can delete bad comments and make yourself look reallllllyyyyyy good. You can't delete user reviews on other sites.

 

15 hours ago, Sisi90 said:

I am talking about unneccesarily hard core procedures like TL subcision and full ablation and the 'docs' who do them. They do overly aggressive risky precedures with the sole purpose of maximizing profit with minimal effort when they could be doing cannula, tca cross, fractional lasers, etc. mostly manual things that are proven to work. Everybody can do a simple search on Google and read what the medical studies show are the best treatments for acne scars. Yeah, H, Lim, Emer would be better off as sharks on Wall Street judging by the way they care mostly about their profit over the well-being of people. It's insufferable how they take advantage of people. 

My opinion is that most doctors can do the same things these doctors can do. It's just whether they care to get into this space or not. To most dermatologists and plastic surgeons, scar treatment doesn't bring them more money than other issues. This is why you see some of the same doctors being mentioned over and over on this forum because there aren't many scar specialists out there. Also, these popular doctors just know how to do YouTube and talk in front of the camera. Lots of doctors don't want to do this.

Yes, I'm sure doctors can read about medical studies and journals but scar improvement isn't at the top of their list for treatments to perform so they don't spend their time researching. Many don't do subcision or TCA Cross so we're stuck with the people who do. 

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1 hour ago, Amanda Hall said:

You never know and I'm sure he'll never reveal his true intentions.

Somehow I think that he is manipulating a lot of people on this broad and on YouTube, he’s is selling us treatments that not everybody wants to do, so he builds up an easy monopoly with his treatments. And  sub and tca for example isn’t really effective, I’ve ruined my face with sub+radiesse+tca and I know a lot of people who didn’t benefit from subcision or tca, tca often even worsen scars. I still don’t understand why so much people trust him ? Is it because they are desperate ? 

1 hour ago, Amanda Hall said:

Most people don't see these. They just see his YouTube videos and think he's amazing

Where can you see the other reviews ? 
man yeah it’s true, his YouTube appearance creates a huge image 

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9 hours ago, Stef3000 said:

Somehow I think that he is manipulating a lot of people on this broad and on YouTube, he’s is selling us treatments that not everybody wants to do, so he builds up an easy monopoly with his treatments. And  sub and tca for example isn’t really effective, I’ve ruined my face with sub+radiesse+tca and I know a lot of people who didn’t benefit from subcision or tca, tca often even worsen scars. I still don’t understand why so much people trust him ? Is it because they are desperate ? 

Where can you see the other reviews ? 
man yeah it’s true, his YouTube appearance creates a huge image 

Subcision works for some people and, in my opinion, the risks of side effects are very low. It's best for people with rolling scars. TCA can improve ice pick scars and narrow/small boxcar scars that lasers can't. Yes, TCA can widen scars but you will see on this forum that people will say that's kinda the purpose. The scar will widen a little but it becomes shallower. Then you laser the scars when they become less deep. TCA is much riskier than subcision and this is why some people go for Phenol CROSS instead.

For some people, even a little improvement is effective. For some people, it isn't. But they can work.

 

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3 hours ago, Amanda Hall said:

Subcision works for some people and, in my opinion, the risks of side effects are very low. It's best for people with rolling scars. TCA can improve ice pick scars and narrow/small boxcar scars that lasers can't. Yes, TCA can widen scars but you will see on this forum that people will say that's kinda the purpose. The scar will widen a little but it becomes shallower. Then you laser the scars when they become less deep. TCA is much riskier than subcision and this is why some people go for Phenol CROSS instead.

For some people, even a little improvement is effective. For some people, it isn't. But they can work.

 

I should just like to say scar widening is not only limited to chemical peels. It can happen from all types of treatment, including laser and RF microneedling. As scars improve, they change shape. Think about it. Do you believe, as the scar pit is getting filled over time, the rim of the scar edge will remain the same shape? The floor is being pushed up to the surface adding tension and pressure, so it makes sense for the scar to widen.

So it's not the treatment per se, but the nature of scar modeling (eg. morphology) that widens the scar.

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On 12/26/2020 at 8:12 AM, Amanda Hall said:

You never know and I'm sure he'll never reveal his true intentions.

 

Most people don't see these. They just see his YouTube videos and think he's amazing.

 

People base their opinion of him off of YouTube videos. The thing with YouTube is that you can delete bad comments and make yourself look reallllllyyyyyy good. You can't delete user reviews on other sites.

 

My opinion is that most doctors can do the same things these doctors can do. It's just whether they care to get into this space or not. To most dermatologists and plastic surgeons, scar treatment doesn't bring them more money than other issues. This is why you see some of the same doctors being mentioned over and over on this forum because there aren't many scar specialists out there. Also, these popular doctors just know how to do YouTube and talk in front of the camera. Lots of doctors don't want to do this.

Yes, I'm sure doctors can read about medical studies and journals but scar improvement isn't at the top of their list for treatments to perform so they don't spend their time researching. Many don't do subcision or TCA Cross so we're stuck with the people who do. 

Absolutely. Many don't bother to do subcision or cross because it's not profitable and if they offer anything it's their go to laser, used at default settings. 

It's getting difficult to trust any dermatologists. Even the ones highly praised on this site. I was dumbfounded today as I read the latest post of Dr Lim ( At least he does a very good job of providing good info on skin, one has to give him that!). So it turns out delayed lumps after HA fillers are not so uncommon, after all??? So you can get these lumps even months after the filler when you get a cold or a vaccine? It is so common that Lim expects a boom of lumps now after the massive Covid vaccination? Really? When it is so common and derms see it why don't they inform about it on their websites among with other side effects?? I haven't seen one doc inform about this. I know that it might occur thanks to people on this site who reported having it and the lumps wouldn't go away easily. I was really dumbfounded that according to Lim it's not that uncommon of a problem and they all keep silent about it.

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On 12/22/2020 at 8:06 AM, Stef3000 said:

All of the Doctors that are Recommended on this Plattform are working together really? Did they create this Plattform ? Emer is for sure only after the money and if Lim works with him well who knows how Lim is for real. 

The good thing about Lim is that by doing everything possible to grow his followership on Instagram and YouTube he shares a lot of valuable information about acne, scar treatments and general skin care as well. Anti-aging tips as well for those who need them. And his posts sometimes make you think about questions that you'd never come up with on your own. 

His latest post for example is about side effects after fillers, and it's interesting because you learn that those side effects are not so uncommon after all. Doctors don't tell you that!

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On 12/22/2020 at 3:50 PM, Sirius Lee said:

Radiesse is a great filler, that is, as long as it's injected correctly. As you might already know, Radiesse is a calcium-based biostimulant that helps your body to produce its own collagen. So it's more similar to Sculptra than hyaluronic fillers like Juvederm. Although more expensive than HA fillers, I believe it is cheaper over the long run since it lasts longer. Then there's the added bonus of collagen synthesis. Unfortunately, it is not reversible. So for any side-effects you might encounter, you're pretty much out of luck. Hence, it's critical to find a skilled injector.

What I normally do is first get HA filler. If the injector is crappy, I move on to another injector. Once I find somebody I'm happy with (at least 2 top-ups), I would then consider upgrading to Radiesse or Sculptra.

BTW you should NEVER use Radiesse as a post-subcision spacer.

Hope that helps.

Wait why should you never use Radiesse as a post subcision spacer?

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2 minutes ago, Catharsis2018 said:

Wait why should you never use Radiesse as a post subcision spacer?

Here's a regurgitation of my response above to the similar question.

On 12/22/2020 at 1:02 PM, Sirius Lee said:

Radiesse is supposed to be injected subdermally, much deeper than HA fillers. Spacer, on the other hand, should be injected superficially just beneath the pit to prevent re-tethering. So HA is more suitable than Radiesse for this purpose. (Not to mention that Radiesse is irreversible.)

 

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The improvements especially on your Chin are really good. I can barely see the scars on the Chin anymore. The scars on your cheek might be harder to treat but they're noticeably shallower and better as well. Were these pictures taken before the filler on the third treatment?

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On 12/31/2020 at 8:56 AM, HellishDuffel said:

The improvements especially on your Chin are really good. I can barely see the scars on the Chin anymore. The scars on your cheek might be harder to treat but they're noticeably shallower and better as well. Were these pictures taken before the filler on the third treatment?

Yes, here’s an after with filler this is just the right side 

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