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I doubt your dermatologist will be able to help much, seeing as you have scarring rather than active acne. (Most dermatologists are fairly ignorant about scar treatments, unfortunately)

It's likely that they will prescribe you Retin-A. This may help a little with the red marks, but I think you'd be better off going with a combination of acid peels and high quality moisturisers to help fade the redness.

I'd advise:

A salicylic acid peel twice weekly for a month, before noting if there is any improvement. Available here Loganwood skincare

Moisturising with emu oil or hazelnut oil.

Using Puredeming's Intense Gel three times weekly. Available here: Puredeming

This should give some improvement in the redness of the scars, which will make your skin look much better.

As far as the actual scarring itself goes, none of the above will help that significantly. sad.gif To help the scarring that you have, I'd recommend you look into the following procedures:

-TCA CROSS (but only have a dermatologist/aesthetician perfom it on you - don't do it yourself.)

- Skin Needling.

- Subcision and/or punch excision.

Good luck. smile.gif

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Does salicyclic basically peel your skin as would a glycolic or lactic? I'm looking into something similar for my red scars.

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i have a question about the TCa cross.

in this method you put it spotly on a hole/scar on the face , right ?

will that not just make the hole deeper ?

how does this work ? smile.gif

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Duluxdog - depending on the strength of the salicylic acid, it will usually not cause the skin to visibly peel, but it will exfoliate it in a similar way to lactic and glycolic peels. The difference is that salicylic acid also dissolves the oil in the pores, as well as exfoliating the skin, thus making it arguably more beneficial for acne sufferers than the AHA peels (lactic, glycolic, kojic etc)

Some people don't tolerate it well, so it's best to test patch before you try a full peel on your face.

Here's a thread detailing info on salicylic acid: http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...93&hl=salicylic

Some - here's a thread with more info on TCA CROSS - http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...78&hl=salicylic

Some people have found the ice picks have deepened with the first application, so often several applications are needed to see improvements. Please research it thoroughly before considering trying it yourself.

Southside

It's difficult to generalise about procedures and their costs, and also, I live in the UK so I can't convert the prices too well into dollars without consulting a currency converter and I don't really have time to do that.

If you want to investigate yourself, here are the prices in UK pounds:

Needling - usually around £150 for one treatment (I think this is around $350) - usually 2-3 treatments are required to see good results. Treatments are usually spaced 1 month apart. People have reported improvements ranging from 10%-60%.

Subcision - again, around £150 per treatment, but can be more if combined with N-lite or Smoothbeam, as it often is; and again, 2-3 treatments usually needed.

TCA CROSS - around £100 to have it performed by an aesthetician. 3-5 treatments usually needed before noticeable improvement.

The costs of the topicals I recommended:

Puredeming IG-R-ALA - $35 (I know these in dollars!)

Salicylic peel from Loganwood skincare: $40

Emu oil - around $10 from Ebay.

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Dermatologists generally deal with active acne, but once this has been treated (usually with accutane), they typically have little knowledge of acne scar treatments. They have usually heard of laser resurfacing, so this is often the only option that acne sufferers who are not knowledgable themselves will be offered. It's a shame. sad.gif

One of the registrars for my dermatologist actually said to me "If you use a moisturiser it might soften the scars but they will never go away . What a dumb thing to say - she didn't even specify the moisturiser. eusa_wall.gif

Anyway. I agree that they should know more about acne scar treatments (and they are generally becoming more educated about this) but the majority of them will have to refer you to a specialist.

It's a good thing that you found this board - it is so useful to people looking for info on scar treatments. I think that dermatologists should direct people to look at this site before looking into any treatments.

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Ive got exactly the same type of scars as you Southside, what bothers me most is the redness though.

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TCA CROSS definetely will yield good improvement...I had scars similar like you but much smaller, since i had my Cross treament abt 9mths ago, now the scars heal 80% smile.gif

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Phew! Lots of questions there...

Right.

hmm..generally? so u mean there's still a chance that the scars of some people will heal?  how many percent roughly? and.. do dark spots go away permanently as well?

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I can't see the last two photos because they're too dark.

From the first two, I would say that your scarring doesn't look bad at all, and that it mainly seems to be red marks with some rolling indentations.

For the rolling scars, I suggest you look into subcision, needling and possibly excision. If you combined subcision or needling with smoothbeam (which I know is available to you in Singapore smile.gif ) it might give some good results.

You might also want to look into TCA CROSS, but I'd try the treatments above first.

Hope this is of some help.

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I can't see the last two photos because they're too dark.

From the first two, I would say that your scarring doesn't look bad at all, and that it mainly seems to be red marks with some rolling indentations.

For the rolling scars, I suggest you look into subcision, needling and possibly excision. If you combined subcision or needling with smoothbeam (which I know is available to you in Singapore  smile.gif ) it might give some good results.

You might also want to look into TCA CROSS, but I'd try the treatments above first.

Hope this is of some help.

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you may lighten your scars using scar treatment , its available from www.organiconline.com.sg . very effective for scar healing and lightening.on longer use, your scar will improve . i too have simliar scars previously but its healed now.

http://www.ofoto.com/BrowsePhotos.jsp?&col...=1&sort_order=0

please view my photos and give some comments on how to improve it.. thanks lots..  smile.gif

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hi there... i'm new to this forum. i live in singapore and was wondering if anyone knew about needling in singapore... is there anyone who does it... eusa_angel.gif

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For dark spots left after acne, I highly recommend a product containing high levels of hydroquinone. I currently use Serious Skin Care's Fading Fluid. It is a liquid and it does not aggravate acne whereas hydroquinone creams may worsen it. When using hydroquinone products, it is essential to use a sunscreen when going outdoors otherwise further discoloration may occur.

In terms of increasing collagen productiion, I use:

[a] Super CP Serum in conjunction with emu oil. The copper peptide is said to promote collagen production. It is also reported that copper peptide will aid in skin remodelling by removing any skin tags associated with scarring and abnormal skin conditions. For more information on this, go to skinbiology.com (a site created by the inventor of copper peptide technology, Dr. Pikart).

and I use Aloette's Age Defiance Firming Serum and Night Recovery along with Time Repair. The first 2 Aloette products contain several of the newest peptide technologies on the market and the Time Repair has BHA. In combination, they help the skin increas collagen production and aid in skin repair.

Caveat: wait 12 hours between using any copper peptide product and products containing vitamin C otherwise the 2 ingredients will counteract each other giving no benefit at all.

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