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(@fazotronicyahoo-com)

Posted : 09/02/2020 8:29 am

Hi,

After long discussion my doctor has suggested to try a somewhat new way of scar treatment called anterior chembrasio or anterior chemabrasion

Basically I would do subcision followed by chemabrasion for best results.

I have only done a laser treatment many years ago to this point. Didn't like it but iam inclined to try other things.

I don't know much about this and can't find much information about it so I figured I ask in this forum.

I have a little darker skin type. (typical portuguese skin type)

Somewhat severe rolling and boxscars.

Might ad pictures later.

P. S. Sorry for my English.

Thx in advance

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Posted : 09/02/2020 8:48 am

23 hours ago, Fazoo said:

Hi,

After long discussion my doctor has suggested to try a somewhat new way of scar treatment called anterior chembrasio or anterior chemabrasion

 

Hi, from what I've read it's a relative new treatment. It's some kind of medium strength peel with phenol as anactive ingredient?

What did your doctor tell you about the anterior chemabrasion and who is treating your scars?

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Posted : 09/02/2020 9:09 am

My doctor is the dermatologists that is actually going to treat my scars. She is one of the few that offers many of those treatments in my country (Switzerland) . She has been to Dr rullen educating herself about all those treatments and lastly to Dr Perez that is a specialist about this specific treatment from what I can tell...

She told me this would be a more effective method than the subcision + microneedling that was originally planned...

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Posted : 09/02/2020 9:11 am

2 minutes ago, Fazoo said:

My doctor is the dermatologists that is actually going to treat my scars. She is one of the few that offers many of those treatments in my country (Switzerland) . She has been to Dr rullen educating herself about all those treatments and lastly to Dr Perez that is a specialist about this specific treatment from what I can tell...

She told me this would be a more effective method than the subcision + microneedling that was originally planned...

Interesting. Do you mind sharing her name?

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Posted : 09/02/2020 9:20 am

Sure

dr. clara boudny frey

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Posted : 09/02/2020 9:23 am

1 minute ago, Fazoo said:

Sure

dr. clara boudny frey

Thank you.

Sorry, I correct myself. It's a TCA peel actually, not phenol according to Dr Perez.

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Posted : 09/02/2020 9:39 am

You're going to do a background check or something :)?

Anyways this seems like a heavy procedure for my skin. One thing I didn't like about the laser was that my face was red for months. I forgot to ask her but is this probably going to be similar to the laser in terms of redness?

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Posted : 09/02/2020 9:49 am

Of course lol

But

21 hours ago, Fazoo said:

You're going to do a background check or something :)?

Anyways this seems like a heavy procedure for my skin. One thing I didn't like about the laser was that my face was red for months. I forgot to ask her but is this probably going to be similar to the laser in terms of redness?

Of course lol

But seriously, it's my skin and those treatments cost not a small amount of money so I like to do my research on the treatments and the doctors.

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Posted : 09/02/2020 9:50 am

@acnescars2000is planning on getting this done soon I think. And Im pretty sureshe sees your doctor. Her post has some info about it. I only learned about the procedure through her thread

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Posted : 09/02/2020 11:46 am

1 hour ago, tortoiseshell9 said:

@acnescars2000is planning on getting this done soon I think. And Im pretty sureshe sees your doctor. Her post has some info about it. I only learned about the procedure through her thread

Found her thread Thx. That's the same procedure and the same Dr.

Looks like I'll be doing it before her on the 14th...

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Posted : 09/02/2020 12:15 pm

26 minutes ago, Fazoo said:

Found her thread Thx. That's the same procedure and the same Dr. 

Looks like I'll be doing it before her on the 14th... 

Yeah of course :) she seems like a really good doctor, I™m sure you™ll be in great hands. Let us know how it all goes 

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Posted : 09/02/2020 4:58 pm

hey fazoo

my skin type is also a bit darker (type 4 i would say) and she said it is not a problem, if that was, what u were worried about. Please letus know about your results.

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Posted : 09/03/2020 7:07 am

14 hours ago, acnescars2000 said:

hey fazoo

my skin type is also a bit darker (type 4 i would say) and she said it is not a problem, if that was, what u were worried about. Please letus know about your results.

Do you know if all skin types (also 5 and 6) can do it? Did she mention anything about that?

Thank you in advance!

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Posted : 09/03/2020 10:59 am

3 hours ago, SaraTheGerman said:

Do you know if all skin types (also 5 and 6) can do it? Did she mention anything about that?

Thank you in advance!

No, she didnt

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Posted : 08/26/2021 1:54 pm

Hi fazoo, any updates?

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Posted : 08/26/2021 9:01 pm

Hi what is the email of Dr Clara Boudny Frey? so I can please email her pictures as ive got moderate to severe boxcar/rolling scars and maybe I goto switzerland?

also does she have a website?

 

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Posted : 08/28/2021 8:42 am

On 8/26/2021 at 9:01 PM, pleasehelp321 said:

Hi what is the email of Dr Clara Boudny Frey? so I can please email her pictures as ive got moderate to severe boxcar/rolling scars and maybe I goto switzerland?

also does she have a website?

 

You are having a psychological battle with yourself you want to believe that something works at the same time you say nothing works. I told you. You dont need full surface treatment just the edges. Just think for a second whydoes the depression show it has a start and end. What if we remove the start of the scar in few sessions, that way there is nothingrestricting it and let light flow easily.

Anterior chemobrasion based on the explanation seems very similiar to phenol chemobrasion where the difference is just the acid being used. In this case tca instead of phenol. Dr Rullandoes use different abrasion instruments asper his article. Phenol chemobrasion is combination of subcision + phenol + Abrasion.

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Posted : 08/28/2021 7:04 pm

Hey getsmart121 i will look more into it agreed its just so hard for me...problem is 100 percent of doctors are useless in australia

if only i could at least find a competent dermabrasion or laser specialist in australia who would abrade the scar edges in australia doesnt exist

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Posted : 08/28/2021 7:27 pm

17 minutes ago, pleasehelp321 said:

Hey getsmart121 i will look more into it agreed its just so hard for me...problem is 100 percent of doctors are useless in australia

if only i could at least find a competent dermabrasion or laser specialist in australia who would abrade the scar edges in australia doesnt exist

Mate, you should go see Dr Mark Taylor. He pioneered this tangential technique and has years of experience with it.

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Posted : 08/28/2021 7:35 pm

I dunno cant really look at anything now because of covid 19 restrictions....plus huge doubts over doctors they promise this promise that and done nothingfor my scars and to travel so far from australia

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Posted : 08/29/2021 7:16 am

12 hours ago, pleasehelp321 said:

Hey getsmart121 i will look more into it agreed its just so hard for me...problem is 100 percent of doctors are useless in australia

if only i could at least find a competent dermabrasion or laser specialist in australia who would abrade the scar edges in australia doesnt exist

Here is the thing if a derm has a erbium/co2 laser they would be able to set it to full ablative. Its just a setting between fractional and full. If a derm says he has fractional laser he can set to full ablative as well. Now I cant say if he is good at it . Just give him the picture and say target these scars and only the edges. For safety reason do 1 scar and see since he doesnt have past experience. Just find a derm using a good laser and then ask him about this. Goto 2:20 duration in video

 

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Posted : 08/29/2021 7:30 am

You are a legend getsmart121....yes in the video that is sort of the scars I have but maybe little less severe....as i said have done both erbium and fractional halo co2 laser the derms are useless and i told them to do the edges

 

as for the guy in the video im doubtful laser will do much for his scars they are too deep they will still be very visible even after laser?

plus dont even understand a word the derm or whatever he is is saying

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Posted : 08/29/2021 1:09 pm

There difference is the method fractional is completely different with fully ablative mode. This guy will find improvement. It™s not going to fix it completely but will start giving him results where he can use fillers then to reach his goal. It shouldn™t be a no results scenario for sure. The question to ask is his not if his skin will be flawless but will he get the needed improvement. Absolutely!

maybe this diagram will make sense but again it won™t do much to atrophy, the game we playing is to modify the edges. Full ablative removes the complete tissue whereas fractional keeps portions of the tissue but remember it is not deep like fractional. As for the risk part a little more risky than fractional but as dr rullan perfectly put it. Even the things we do to treat can also give you scar but the aim is while damaging it in a fashion we will continue to see the healing in our direction.

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Posted : 08/29/2021 8:04 pm

Getsmart121 I would be 110 percent reassured over you personally doing it for me over any acne scar doctor in Australia...as I said they are useless here in Australia!!!

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Posted : 08/31/2021 7:39 am

On 8/27/2021 at 4:01 AM, pleasehelp321 said:

Hi what is the email of Dr Clara Boudny Frey? so I can please email her pictures as ive got moderate to severe boxcar/rolling scars and maybe I goto switzerland?

also does she have a website?

 

she offers:

Subcision oft he region with scars with cannula

Dermabrasio with sand paper

Easy TCA 15% Peeling

Bismuta powder

Cost: Fr. 1000.-/session

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