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2 months after Phenol CROSS, Subcision and Microneedling progress

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This looks very good indeed. Much shallower. You are definitely on the right track. Dr Rullan is indeed a master. The only caveat is that with your first photo, you have significant PIH within the scars, hence the PERCEPTION of depth. Shadowed lighting will remove the light reflectance. Regardless of this minor comment, you have undoubtedly improved, Congratulations. Be guided by Rullan as to your next few treatments. I don't know if he does fully ablative erbium followed by Pico to reduce the PIH, this certainly an OPTION, however Rullan will always have his time tested, and proven methods. 'Many roads to the same destination and your guide is one of the best in the World, both ethically and skill wise.'

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Thanks for the update! Keep them coming. Your scars do appear softer. Don't forget to suction! There are studies that show that suctioning your scars daily a few days after subcision prevents them from tethering back down. I think there's up to 60% more improvement compared to those who don't suction after subcision (i could be wrong about the exact percentage, but there's definitely significant improvement). 

I plan on seeing Dr. Rullan soon with the same combo of procedures.

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On 3/2/2018 at 2:01 PM, f93d said:


I didn't have a phenol peel, just cross. Here are my pictures, not sure what can be derived from it as I'm still bruised. I'm half asian, I have different scars than you.

I'm on day 17 and still look like day 15 from the pictures, just a little less pink. Used aspirin and suction to prolong the bruising. 

I'm leaning towards getting a phenol peel, understanding the risk of pigmentation issues, however I'd like to get another round of subcision and cross. Phenol cross brown spots peel faster than TCA and I didn't see the expanding of scars that occurred with TCA cross. Dr Rullan mentioned this also and is one of his reasons for pushing phenol over tca.

 

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May I ask what doctor you worked with on this?

Is Dr. Rullan the only one using Phenol atm?

Thanks

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On 6/28/2018 at 4:32 PM, LivingWithFaith said:

Thanks for the update! Keep them coming. Your scars do appear softer. Don't forget to suction! There are studies that show that suctioning your scars daily a few days after subcision prevents them from tethering back down. I think there's up to 60% more improvement compared to those who don't suction after subcision (i could be wrong about the exact percentage, but there's definitely significant improvement). 

I plan on seeing Dr. Rullan soon with the same combo of procedures.

I think it's difficult to suction a few days after subcision since he also has also done the cross which scabs for like a week

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Hi how have you found phenol peel for your acne scars?  I am thinking of it too as I have moderate to severe acne scars and am thinking of going to dr rullan?  can you please give me details?  many thanks joe

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On 2/9/2019 at 1:40 PM, californiakid said:

I think it's difficult to suction a few days after subcision since he also has also done the cross which scabs for like a week

I get seperate sessions for cross and subcision in alternating months. So that I can suction with chinese cupping 1-2 days after subs. It has worked great for me but it's not as fast results as condensing subs and cross together. I don't know the exact tradeoff. I think you get better results if you seperate but you get faster results if you do them at the same time. 

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1 hour ago, joeysk said:

I get seperate sessions for cross and subcision in alternating months. So that I can suction with chinese cupping 1-2 days after subs. It has worked great for me but it's not as fast results as condensing subs and cross together. I don't know the exact tradeoff. I think you get better results if you seperate but you get faster results if you do them at the same time. 

I thought about separating the treatments also but I don’t have enough time off to go so frequently. How long does it take for you to be presentable in public after getting the single subcision procedure? I’ve only done the combination treatments so far. 

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50 minutes ago, californiakid said:

I thought about separating the treatments also but I don’t have enough time off to go so frequently. How long does it take for you to be presentable in public after getting the single subcision procedure? I’ve only done the combination treatments so far. 

I am a guy that DGAF so I work from home the day after sub and I am out and about in 2 days. wear makeup. However, you don't look normal until 6-7 days, and even then you need makup to cover bruises.  Cross, my scabs are done by day 6 or 7. 

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