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Hello everyone,

Just a little background. I am currently on 10mg accutane longer term dose and my persistent acne is almost gone. Very good result there. 

Unfortunately, I have scars, with most of them on the forehead. Currently I use a combination of make up (dermablend) and using my natural hair (the fringe) to cover the bulk of the bad scars. 

Living in Australia, I have been researching into various scar treatments and Davin Lim is a very popular option in Brisbane who is only a two hour flight from me. Adrian Lim sounds decent in Sydney even closer. 

However, after months of research, it is astonishing and concerning how much money people do spend on treatments with very little result. And then there are the horror stories with lasers. Through my self-reading and discovery, it is amazing how much money skin care clinics do make off people who are feeling very vulnerable. And what I have found very concerning is how unregulated these skin clinics seem to be. I think using something like a Fraxel or CO2 laser should be restricted to actual dermatologist who have done extra training in that field. On upon reading here, it seems many doctors are happy to push customers on to lasers to help them pay for their 110k machine, even though they may not be the best candidate. 

I wonder now if it simply best to make peace with my scars. Sure, I can spend 10k and only get a 10% improvement. maybe eventually I will pay Davin Lim a visit, so I can see if he is really is amazing at what he does (according to his google reviews), but it will take a lot of thought. Is it worth it with the downtime? . Scar revision is a while away for me still. 

One thing I have found with my current reading is a BIG NO to lasers. They're just simply too many horror stories.  It looks like TCA cross and subscision are worth a show and maybe that is where I will head. 

Has anyone just decided to make peace with their scars and accept who they are? I would love to hear your thoughts. 

 

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You're right acne scar revision can be a very expensive, time-consuming, and stress inducing for sure.  There are also risks, but that is usually relegated to the most extreme / aggressive procedures (i.e. laser).   As for whether or not it is worth it to go down this journey, it's such a freaking cliche, but honestly only you can know that.    You need to ask yourself some brutally honest questions and get opinions from people you trust who will tell you the truth, not what you want to hear.   Ask yourself, are your scars really bad enough to treat?  What kinds of scars do you have?  

For me,  I can say that it was worth it to get treatment.  My scars were severe to the point where people would comment, and frankly it was very painful.  I'll never get perfection, but it's honestly so much better than where it was.  I constantly have to remind myself of where I started.  I actually get anxiety when I see old pics that I took to document my journey.  Where I fucked up was believing surgeons who overpromised and went TOO aggressive, which caused complications that took forever to resolve or improve.   The difference was I started this several years ago before there was as much information as there is now.   I wasted a lot of time and money on procedures that did not help.  It took a long time for me to finally figure out what works for me, which is fillers.  What made things worse was lasers, which gave me severe hyperpigmentation and bad texture (think grid marks and texture difference from untreated areas).  

Some of the most effective treatments are not crazy expensive (TCA cross, subcision), while others are more moderately expensive like fillers (depending on how much you need and how often you maintain it).  Laser is absolutely an expensive gamble and often  used for the wrong kinds of scars.   If you have deep indentations, do subcision and filler.  I find that the surgeons with ZERO expertise are the ones who prescribe laser for any and all scars because they don't have the real knowledge or skills.  They often take advantage of the the ignorance of most patients who think that a fancy, advanced laser must be effective because, well it's so expensive.  More expensive is not always good,  or even effective. 

There is NO amount of laser that will EVER fill a deep hole.  That is a lie that keeps getting told by surgeons who are trying to recoup their costs on their $100K machines.   Lasers may help to soften the edges of sharp bordered scars and to blend areas AFTER you've done other treatments to raise up the depressions.  Lasers themselves, will never create or make enough volume to fill a scar.  

My point in writing all this is you'll never have perfect results but it is possible to get significant improvement if tailor the treatment to the right scars.  And do not jump into the most aggressive thing.  Work your way up in terms of aggressiveness.  That way you avoid the disaster stories.

 

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I think if you have love matters figured out and already found your SO, then it would probably be better to just accept the scars. You can still wait for more advanced treatments to be discovered or try some cheap treatments like dermastamping at home, but I dont think spending 1000s with currently available treatments will bring you any more happiness.. Just keep following the scene, and when you really have money to spare, then go for it, but dont stress about it.

If you dont and lack confidence because of scars, then I think it is definitely worth pursuing treatments..

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33 minutes ago, eekman said:

I think if you have love matters figured out and already found your SO, then it would probably be better to just accept the scars. You can still wait for more advanced treatments to be discovered or try some cheap treatments like dermastamping at home, but I dont think spending 1000s with currently available treatments will bring you any more happiness.. Just keep following the scene, and when you really have money to spare, then go for it, but dont stress about it.

If you dont and lack confidence because of scars, then I think it is definitely worth pursuing treatments..



THIS....seriously, I think the biggest challenge for scar sufferers, other than self-acceptance, is finding acceptance from another person.   If you have significant scars, dating is a challenge.   Unfortunately, even when you think you have figured out the partner situation, it can end.  Then you're back at zero and rebuilding all over again.

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23 hours ago, ScarRight said:

Hello everyone,

Just a little background. I am currently on 10mg accutane longer term dose and my persistent acne is almost gone. Very good result there. 

Unfortunately, I have scars, with most of them on the forehead. Currently I use a combination of make up (dermablend) and using my natural hair (the fringe) to cover the bulk of the bad scars. 

Living in Australia, I have been researching into various scar treatments and Davin Lim is a very popular option in Brisbane who is only a two hour flight from me. Adrian Lim sounds decent in Sydney even closer. 

However, after months of research, it is astonishing and concerning how much money people do spend on treatments with very little result. And then there are the horror stories with lasers. Through my self-reading and discovery, it is amazing how much money skin care clinics do make off people who are feeling very vulnerable. And what I have found very concerning is how unregulated these skin clinics seem to be. I think using something like a Fraxel or CO2 laser should be restricted to actual dermatologist who have done extra training in that field. On upon reading here, it seems many doctors are happy to push customers on to lasers to help them pay for their 110k machine, even though they may not be the best candidate. 

I wonder now if it simply best to make peace with my scars. Sure, I can spend 10k and only get a 10% improvement. maybe eventually I will pay Davin Lim a visit, so I can see if he is really is amazing at what he does (according to his google reviews), but it will take a lot of thought. Is it worth it with the downtime? . Scar revision is a while away for me still. 

One thing I have found with my current reading is a BIG NO to lasers. They're just simply too many horror stories.  It looks like TCA cross and subscision are worth a show and maybe that is where I will head. 

Has anyone just decided to make peace with their scars and accept who they are? I would love to hear your thoughts. 

 

Depends on your perspective.
I mean there are some people who want their face to be perfect. They want it so they can go for treatments.
Also many people seem not to be bothered by scars.
You can check skrillex's face. He also has a lot of scarring but he looks as great as he would look without scars.

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9 hours ago, dazzed said:


THIS....seriously, I think the biggest challenge for scar sufferers, other than self-acceptance, is finding acceptance from another person.   If you have significant scars, dating is a challenge.   Unfortunately, even when you think you have figured out the partner situation, it can end.  Then you're back at zero and rebuilding all over again.

I wish i got a fiver every time a bird said i wasnt perfect and knocked me back.funny cos they said its a shame,if you got rid of that stuff you would be gorgeous!

so no dont accept your scars but live with the fact you got to sort your life out and getting that woman might mean getting rid of most of that scarring on your face.

also i only spent money on tca and dermatamp/needling devices so its not expensive if you diy.

so do i think a year i been tca peeling,cross and needling have made me better?too right it has but if i want to get that woman i got to clear my face up.

Ask yourself this question,are you good looking under all the imperfections?

if i was ugly and having great skin still got me remarks about how ugly i was i would be more concerned as i cant change my face without an hammer |::)

but if a woman you like says your  good looking but you got imperfect skin its a wake up call.
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No, I haven't and will never make peace with my scars in their current condition. 

They're not even the worst of the worst, but unless I have a significant improvement I won't be satisfied.

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On 12/23/2017 at 3:33 AM, ScarRight said:

I wonder now if it simply best to make peace with my scars. Sure, I can spend 10k and only get a 10% improvement. maybe eventually I will pay Davin Lim a visit, so I can see if he is really is amazing at what he does (according to his google reviews), but it will take a lot of thought. Is it worth it with the downtime? . Scar revision is a while away for me still. 


Making peace with your scars shouldn't imply you should give up and resign yourself to a bleak future. No, I ain't talking about dating. It's more about self-respect. You can do that be quit looking at yourself in the mirror. Rather spend that time on your spiritual growth. Scars, as traumatic as they may be, shouldn't dictate how you should live. 

With that said, I think most people blindly accept doctor's orders at face value. Please become knowledgeable and free yourself of herd mentality.

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Since there exists no possible way of diminishing severe acne scars 100%, to me, some sort of "acceptance" can be the only solution. Get your treatments. Assess your results. If you are still not happy, then nothing will save you. You either live in a state of permanent dissatisfaction, or learn to cope. My recent copes have been spiritual: Meditation, and lucid dreaming to name a few. Worst case scenario is I move deep into a forest, unplug from media, and live a simple reclusive life where appearance matters little.
 

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On 24-12-2017 at 5:27 AM, dazzed said:


You're right acne scar revision can be a very expensive, time-consuming, and stress inducing for sure.  There are also risks, but that is usually relegated to the most extreme / aggressive procedures (i.e. laser).   As for whether or not it is worth it to go down this journey, it's such a freaking cliche, but honestly only you can know that.    You need to ask yourself some brutally honest questions and get opinions from people you trust who will tell you the truth, not what you want to hear.   Ask yourself, are your scars really bad enough to treat?  What kinds of scars do you have?  

For me,  I can say that it was worth it to get treatment.  My scars were severe to the point where people would comment, and frankly it was very painful.  I'll never get perfection, but it's honestly so much better than where it was.  I constantly have to remind myself of where I started.  I actually get anxiety when I see old pics that I took to document my journey.  Where I fucked up was believing surgeons who overpromised and went TOO aggressive, which caused complications that took forever to resolve or improve.   The difference was I started this several years ago before there was as much information as there is now.   I wasted a lot of time and money on procedures that did not help.  It took a long time for me to finally figure out what works for me, which is fillers.  What made things worse was lasers, which gave me severe hyperpigmentation and bad texture (think grid marks and texture difference from untreated areas).  

Some of the most effective treatments are not crazy expensive (TCA cross, subcision), while others are more moderately expensive like fillers (depending on how much you need and how often you maintain it).  Laser is absolutely an expensive gamble and often  used for the wrong kinds of scars.   If you have deep indentations, do subcision and filler.  I find that the surgeons with ZERO expertise are the ones who prescribe laser for any and all scars because they don't have the real knowledge or skills.  They often take advantage of the the ignorance of most patients who think that a fancy, advanced laser must be effective because, well it's so expensive.  More expensive is not always good,  or even effective. 

There is NO amount of laser that will EVER fill a deep hole.  That is a lie that keeps getting told by surgeons who are trying to recoup their costs on their $100K machines.   Lasers may help to soften the edges of sharp bordered scars and to blend areas AFTER you've done other treatments to raise up the depressions.  Lasers themselves, will never create or make enough volume to fill a scar.  

My point in writing all this is you'll never have perfect results but it is possible to get significant improvement if tailor the treatment to the right scars.  And do not jump into the most aggressive thing.  Work your way up in terms of aggressiveness.  That way you avoid the disaster stories.

 

I wonder how many times you have fillers done. Also, do you see improvement in your scrs once the filler wears off?

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There are many great acne scar specialist in Oz, the one saving grace is called the Medicare threshold .... the old insurance scheme in Australia. Not many people know this, but dermatologist (specialist) and plastics get given an item number to revise Grade 4 scars (severe acne scars) - once you reach a threshold, 80% covered by Medicare. Example if cost is $2000, you actually pay $400, depending on the procedure. Cosmetic GPs can not use this item number, only Specialists under referral basis. So, if one has come to peace with their scars, save your grief, however many patients do not realise that the actual cost of even the most complex scar revision process is less than a tooth implant. Just see who ever you are comfortable with... one who actually treats the scar type and not pushes a laser device. All the best, IMO, there is no need to compromise as if you have a dedicated specialist, and if YOU are dedicated, the job will be done - Australia is a lucky country in this regard, despite all the delays with TGA approvals. 

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I will never make peace. My skin was perfect. My looks were perfect and. Now its ruined. Everyday I obsess for past 3 years. I stopped everuthing I cant film myself.

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On 12/24/2017 at 0:03 PM, Sirius Lee said:

Making peace with your scars shouldn't imply you should give up and resign yourself to a bleak future. No, I ain't talking about dating. It's more about self-respect. You can do that be quit looking at yourself in the mirror. Rather spend that time on your spiritual growth. Scars, as traumatic as they may be, shouldn't dictate how you should live. 

With that said, I think most people blindly accept doctor's orders at face value. Please become knowledgeable and free yourself of herd mentality.

Great point.   Acceptance should mean being able to live your life and not be completely debilitated by your scars, but not resigning yourself to living with the scars (if you choose not to).  Of course, that's easier said than done if you have really severe scars.    I totally agree with your comment about NOT blindly accepingt what a doctor might tell you.  If I accepted that, I would have given up and still walk around with severe scars.  I researched and went through so much trial and error, but finally settled on what works for me.  

 
14 hours ago, mynameisacne said:

I will never make peace. My skin was perfect. My looks were perfect and. Now its ruined. Everyday I obsess for past 3 years. I stopped everuthing I cant film myself.


I'll be brutally honest... I saw your picture and you don't have any scars that I can see.  You're struggling with something, but it's not scars.  

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On Tuesday, December 26, 2017 at 10:41 AM, dazzed said:

Great point.   Acceptance should mean being able to live your life and not be completely debilitated by your scars, but not resigning yourself to living with the scars (if you choose not to).  Of course, that's easier said than done if you have really severe scars.    I totally agree with your comment about NOT blindly accepingt what a doctor might tell you.  If I accepted that, I would have given up and still walk around with severe scars.  I researched and went through so much trial and error, but finally settled on what works for me.  

 
I'll be brutally honest... I saw your picture and you don't have any scars that I can see.  You're struggling with something, but it's not scars.  
did you see all of the pictures?

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On 12/25/2017 at 7:50 PM, mynameisacne said:

I will never make peace. My skin was perfect. My looks were perfect and. Now its ruined. Everyday I obsess for past 3 years. I stopped everuthing I cant film myself.


This is utter nonsense.

Your looks were never perfect. In which world is this perfect?

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You were average on a good day.

Now compare yourself to a good-looking guy:

78d46d205eaaaf3b8f0f969f4bc1269d--andrea

Your "scars" are the least of your problems; you have one or two holes, invisible to the naked eye.

People like you make a mockery of people with real scarring.  Edited by ChildhoodDreams

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1 hour ago, ChildhoodDreams said:

This is utter nonsense.

Your looks were never perfect. In which world is this perfect?

IMG_20161228_141349.jpg

You were average on a good day.

Now compare yourself to a good-looking guy:

78d46d205eaaaf3b8f0f969f4bc1269d--andrea

Your "scars" are the least of your problems; you have one or two holes, invisible to the naked eye.

People like you make a mockery of people with real scarring. 
 that was a bad picture of me. i have the scars in that picture. im just trying to show how one side is lower because of the scar under my eye. that scar is bad. are you saying im ugly regardless and that is actually my problem? shit

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1 hour ago, mynameisacne said:

are you saying im ugly regardless and that is actually my problem? shit

>_<

cmon people, stop it Edited by JohnRottenSkin

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@mynameisacne   Here is my honest opinion on your situation.  I'm not bashing you and I don't want a pissing contest because we all know scars fking suck, that's literally the reason we are all here.  Severe, moderate, mild, they can all put you into a terrible place.  I have done the same shit for like 3 years where I wake up and look in the mirror and wish they would just disappear.  I've gotten to the point where it's time for a change.   You're at the point where you've had enough.  It's time you start looking for a real solution to your problem.  After looking at your pictures I honestly think your scars are mild.  I think if you saved up for a bit and had 1-3 proper treatments you could get your scars to the point where they are unnoticeable.

 

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here you can see thr scars as you can see i am pissed

6 minutes ago, thepwhisp said:
@mynameisacne   Here is my honest opinion on your situation.  I'm not bashing you and I don't want a pissing contest because we all know scars fking suck, that's literally the reason we are all here.  Severe, moderate, mild, they can all put you into a terrible place.  I have done the same shit for like 3 years where I wake up and look in the mirror and wish they would just disappear.  I've gotten to the point where it's time for a change.   You're at the point where you've had enough.  It's time you start looking for a real solution to your problem.  After looking at your pictures I honestly think your scars are mild.  I think if you saved up for a bit and had 1-3 proper treatments you could get your scars to the point where they are unnoticeable.

 
has anything worked for you?

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@mynameisacneYea man I feel you.  I'm in a similar boat where I've delayed treatment for a while. Fortunately treatments are only going to get better from here on out so we are in a pretty good place.  If all goes well i'll be getting treatments soon.  I've saved up for a bit and am at the point where I need to change.  Checking out your scars it appears they are pretty mild.  You have to remember girls with perfect skin generally have FAR more insecurities then us males with scars.  Not only that but a huge portion of the population doesn't have 20/20 vision.  Half the people I talk to don't even notice/care about my scars.  You will be shocked at how your personality shines if you put yourself out there.   I'm far from an expert but it looks like your scars are VERY treatable.  Temples look extremely mild.  I think you should find someone reputable who does subcision and see what their thoughts are.  It's a little pricey but well worth it in the long run.       

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Hello MyNameIsAcne. For what its worth, I do not think your scars are on the severe side. Far from it. You look fine. It looks like you have no current active acne, so that is a big plus. 

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I did look closer at some of your other pics, and okay your scars are more noticeable on closer inspection.  But they are FAR from hideous or severe.   I see some near your jawline that might benefit from subcision and maybe filler. 

I agree with @QuanHenry.   Find an appropriate treatment for your scars, research some good doctors, and maybe move forward with treatment.  Occasionally come back here for help or feedback, but do not hang out here.  I've found it more helpful to stay off here.

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