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Radio Frequencies... Yes Or No?

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(@ricex)

Posted : 09/26/2014 1:44 am

Hey guys, I just recently ordered my Dermapen and a bottle of Copper Peptides. I'm wondering with all the craze about the Intracel or the these RF microneedle devices, would it be beneficial to use a stand alone RF device after doing a Dermapen session? In theory the RF will help the Copper Peptide improve collegen along with the penetration of the Dermapen and fasten the collegen process and have results in a shorter time. But I'm not sure though.

I'm 65% "yea I want to get a RF device" and then the other 35% is saying "I don't know since there isn't enough evidence for standalone RF device to work on acne scars but the intracel or RF microneedle devices sounds like the golden key to everything about them acne scars."

Anyone here use RF in their routine before?

EDIt: I went ahead and bought it. Why? Take a good read on these research articles.

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/51727790_Treatment_of_Acne_Scars_of_Skin_Types_II_to_V_by_Sublative_Fractional_Bipolar_Radiofrequency_and_Bipolar_Radiofrequency_Combined_with_Diode_Laser

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/224877872_Treatment_of_acne_scars_by_fractional_bipolar_radiofrequency_energy

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/259960549_Attenuation_of_acne_scars_using_high_power_fractional_ablative_unipolar_radiofrequency_and_ultrasound_for_transepidermal_delivery_of_bioactive_compounds_through_microchannels

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(@bloodwar44)

Posted : 09/27/2014 3:00 pm

http://owndoc.com/dermarolling/dermapen-causes-skin-micro-tearing/

I'm guessing the infini / intracel would be good , but cost a shit ton of money for a single device. Heck you could open a clinic just buying one

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(@leadingforce)

Posted : 09/27/2014 3:34 pm

so now you should be regretting it because it cause microtears based on the other link o.o ?

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(@ricex)

Posted : 09/27/2014 11:32 pm

http://owndoc.com/dermarolling/dermapen-causes-skin-micro-tearing/

 

I'm guessing the infini / intracel would be good , but cost a shit ton of money for a single device. Heck you could open a clinic just buying one

LOL That last sentence

so now you should be regretting it because it cause microtears based on the other link o.o ?

Well that is true it CAN cause microtears..... If done too fast, trust me I read that article and gave it some thought before I went with the Dermapen. But then again, dermaroller can also tear the skin when rolling disproportionately and fast. But when it came down to it, there are real results from Dermarolling and Dermapen. From a couple of Google search, a lot of people say that site have some valuable sources but the owner is a shady person.... But who knows.

By the way this is the ebay chinese knockoffs Dermapens that I bought. In principle it works the same as the original Dermapen, and that's all I need.

Trick with the Dermapen and microtears is that if the person using the pen moving too fast the needle that's still stuck on the skin can drag out and cause the microtears. If done slower and having the right needle length for the right area of the face, it should minimize it by a lot.

It's kind of funny how that site went to bash dermapen but then decided to release their own version of the dermapen.....

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(@bloodwar44)

Posted : 09/28/2014 9:36 am

man idk about cheap knockoffs. That seems more dangerous than the originals. You wont know if the needles and all are really as thin as they claim and if the puncture depth is accurate

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(@leadingforce)

Posted : 09/28/2014 2:47 pm

 

http://owndoc.com/dermarolling/dermapen-causes-skin-micro-tearing/

 

I'm guessing the infini / intracel would be good , but cost a shit ton of money for a single device. Heck you could open a clinic just buying one

LOL That last sentence

>so now you should be regretting it because it cause microtears based on the other link o.o ?

Well that is true it CAN cause microtears..... If done too fast, trust me I read that article and gave it some thought before I went with the Dermapen. But then again, dermaroller can also tear the skin when rolling disproportionately and fast. But when it came down to it, there are real results from Dermarolling and Dermapen. From a couple of Google search, a lot of people say that site have some valuable sources but the owner is a shady person.... But who knows.

By the way this is the ebay chinese knockoffs Dermapens that I bought. In principle it works the same as the original Dermapen, and that's all I need.

Trick with the Dermapen and microtears is that if the person using the pen moving too fast the needle that's still stuck on the skin can drag out and cause the microtears. If done slower and having the right needle length for the right area of the face, it should minimize it by a lot.

It's kind of funny how that site went to bash dermapen but then decided to release their own version of the dermapen.....

now are you gonna use it and post results ? :P

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(@ricex)

Posted : 09/28/2014 3:35 pm

 

http://owndoc.com/dermarolling/dermapen-causes-skin-micro-tearing/

 

I'm guessing the infini / intracel would be good , but cost a shit ton of money for a single device. Heck you could open a clinic just buying one

LOL That last sentence

>so now you should be regretting it because it cause microtears based on the other link

o.o ?

Well that is true it CAN cause microtears..... If done too fast, trust me I read that article and gave it some thought before I went with the Dermapen. But then again, dermaroller can also tear the skin when rolling disproportionately and fast. But when it came down to it, there are real results from Dermarolling and Dermapen. From a couple of Google search, a lot of people say that site have some valuable sources but the owner is a shady person.... But who knows.

By the way this is the ebay chinese knockoffs Dermapens that I bought. In principle it works the same as the original Dermapen, and that's all I need.

Trick with the Dermapen and microtears is that if the person using the pen moving too fast the needle that's still stuck on the skin can drag out and cause the microtears. If done slower and having the right needle length for the right area of the face, it should minimize it by a lot.

It's kind of funny how that site went to bash dermapen but then decided to release their own version of the dermapen.....

now are you gonna use it and post results ?

Yes I'm planning to post my results after 6 months though.

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