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For the hair I did 1:1 olive oil + mayo mask for an hour. Then shampooed, rinsed with 1:1 apple cider vinegar and water and left it for a minute-2. In the end I conditioned it. While damp, I applied garnier leave in conditioner and sexy silk frizz eliminator. I woke up and it it looked like this.

Accutane regimen:

I'm going back to using my blue/red light at night for 15 minutes. I'm glad that it's safe to use while on accutane.

Before that I'll OCM and then tone with Aloe Vera organic juice. I may rub in some more oil as a moisturizer.

In the AM I will use a gentle cleanser and then apply CeraVe SPF AM moisturizer.

I'll keep using my multivitamins minus vit. A. I'll also stay on BeYaz. Diet will stay the same.

3 more days and then I'm going on a vaycay mentally speaking.

I'm probably not going to write as much from now on, because we all know about the small side effects (if they even exist at 10mg). I'll definitely post pics though.

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Hate to put a downer on your spirits but what makes you think you will have total clearance for 2-3 years and no relapse on a low dose of 10 mg are you aware some people relapse on a high dose of 80mg within 3-5 months of their course ceasing? You need to be upping your dose really to the 1mg/kg per day I know it's risky with the sides but you really need to be on a high dose for long term clearance 10mg is A very low dose and you would need to be taking that for a very long time to reach your cumulative dose of 120/150 mg per kg.

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Y'all are so lazy when it comes to people taking accutane or stuff like that. If you're on this website i assume you're using the regimen but you aren't.

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WOW! First, the person who says you have to take a high dose is just wrong. There is no research evidence to support their claims. It may take longer to get clear, and you will have to take it for a long time, but I get the feeling that this is what Getmehheresults wants to do. Long term low dose therapy is actually quite common now.

And why come on someone's log and be so negative? That is odd.

And to the person complaining (in several places) about this site being for the regimen, you should read Dan's intentions more closely. He offers the regimen as what has worked for him, but created this site to support all of us going through this struggle, including those of us who have chosen Accutane. And I think it's offensive to show up on someone's log to raise this issue.

Sorry for being ranty in your space getmetheresults, those two just got my goat a little!

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Lol at people who tell me what to write on my personal thread.

And the other one is clearly misinformed.

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Y'all are so lazy when it comes to people taking accutane or stuff like that. If you're on this website i assume you're using the regimen but you aren't.

Troll somewhere else.

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WOW! First, the person who says you have to take a high dose is just wrong. There is no research evidence to support their claims. It may take longer to get clear, and you will have to take it for a long time, but I get the feeling that this is what Getmehheresults wants to do. Long term low dose therapy is actually quite common now.

And why come on someone's log and be so negative? That is odd.

And to the person complaining (in several places) about this site being for the regimen, you should read Dan's intentions more closely. He offers the regimen as what has worked for him, but created this site to support all of us going through this struggle, including those of us who have chosen Accutane. And I think it's offensive to show up on someone's log to raise this issue.

Sorry for being ranty in your space getmetheresults, those two just got my goat a little!

I'm not being negative I'm just giving sound advice to one acne sufferer to another all I said was 10mg per day is ultra low dose and will not give long term clearance after 6 months more like 2 years to reach a adequate cumulative dose and who wants to be taking this stuff for 2 years???

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WOW! First, the person who says you have to take a high dose is just wrong. There is no research evidence to support their claims. It may take longer to get clear, and you will have to take it for a long time, but I get the feeling that this is what Getmehheresults wants to do. Long term low dose therapy is actually quite common now.

And why come on someone's log and be so negative? That is odd.

And to the person complaining (in several places) about this site being for the regimen, you should read Dan's intentions more closely. He offers the regimen as what has worked for him, but created this site to support all of us going through this struggle, including those of us who have chosen Accutane. And I think it's offensive to show up on someone's log to raise this issue.

Sorry for being ranty in your space getmetheresults, those two just got my goat a little!

I'm not being negative I'm just giving sound advice to one acne sufferer to another all I said was 10mg per day is ultra low dose and will not give long term clearance after 6 months more like 2 years to reach a adequate cumulative dose and who wants to be taking this stuff for 2 years???

Just be quiet, please.

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WOW! First, the person who says you have to take a high dose is just wrong. There is no research evidence to support their claims. It may take longer to get clear, and you will have to take it for a long time, but I get the feeling that this is what Getmehheresults wants to do. Long term low dose therapy is actually quite common now.

And why come on someone's log and be so negative? That is odd.

And to the person complaining (in several places) about this site being for the regimen, you should read Dan's intentions more closely. He offers the regimen as what has worked for him, but created this site to support all of us going through this struggle, including those of us who have chosen Accutane. And I think it's offensive to show up on someone's log to raise this issue.

Sorry for being ranty in your space getmetheresults, those two just got my goat a little!

I'm not being negative I'm just giving sound advice to one acne sufferer to another all I said was 10mg per day is ultra low dose and will not give long term clearance after 6 months more like 2 years to reach a adequate cumulative dose and who wants to be taking this stuff for 2 years???

Kinso89, I believe the current research into the efficacy of long term, low dose Accutane treatment is revealing some exciting findings. Apparently GetMetTheResults and her doctor have discussed this as a possible course of action, and everyone involved has decided to give it a try.

Accutane's side effects are directly dose-dependent, so being on 10mg for 2 years might not be as hard on the body as, say, a 60 or 80mg course over five to six months. Regardless, it is a choice that this gal has made, and it is between her and her doctor.

When bursting onto another forum member's thread without introducing yourself but instead rudely launching into spouting your "advice," you may want to be just a bit more diplomatic in how you present it. Just because you are a fellow acne sufferer who has chosen one path for your treatment, does not mean it is the correct path for everyone on this forum.

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WOW! First, the person who says you have to take a high dose is just wrong. There is no research evidence to support their claims. It may take longer to get clear, and you will have to take it for a long time, but I get the feeling that this is what Getmehheresults wants to do. Long term low dose therapy is actually quite common now.

And why come on someone's log and be so negative? That is odd.

And to the person complaining (in several places) about this site being for the regimen, you should read Dan's intentions more closely. He offers the regimen as what has worked for him, but created this site to support all of us going through this struggle, including those of us who have chosen Accutane. And I think it's offensive to show up on someone's log to raise this issue.

Sorry for being ranty in your space getmetheresults, those two just got my goat a little!

I'm not being negative I'm just giving sound advice to one acne sufferer to another all I said was 10mg per day is ultra low dose and will not give long term clearance after 6 months more like 2 years to reach a adequate cumulative dose and who wants to be taking this stuff for 2 years???

Kinso89, I believe the current research into the efficacy of long term, low dose Accutane treatment is revealing some exciting findings. Apparently GetMetTheResults and her doctor have discussed this as a possible course of action, and everyone involved has decided to give it a try.

Accutane's side effects are directly dose-dependent, so being on 10mg for 2 years might not be as hard on the body as, say, a 60 or 80mg course over five to six months. Regardless, it is a choice that this gal has made, and it is between her and her doctor.

When bursting onto another forum member's thread without introducing yourself but instead rudely launching into spouting your "advice," you may want to be just a bit more diplomatic in how you present it. Just because you are a fellow acne sufferer who has chosen one path for your treatment, does not mean it is the correct path for everyone on this forum.

It's a forum and I'm entitled to my opinion after all and I wasn't rude or trolling I was just merely giving advice, even at 10mg you will get dry lips and skin so if people can suffer that for 2 years then fair enough it is a known fact from skin specialists accross the world that a high dose over 20-24 weeks has a ten fold higher chance of long term/permanent remission than low dose check the facts and alot of derms are useless but anyone sorry for giving my advice and opinion and sorry for intervening in your thread get ethereally sand I wish you goodluck with your treatment and skin.

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I'm interested in hearing about long term low dose results. I know there are several other accutane logs where users are doing this under the suggestion of their doctors.

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Mostly for Kinso89:

Okay. I am such a super dork with way too much access to medical journals. I have been reading all the most recent peer reviewed articles and found some very interesting tidbits.

First, currently, researchers are now saying that cumulative dose is not even that important. I thought this was super interesting because everyone on here (including me!) is so obsessed with it. Apparently, in the most recent studies, they have found that relapse is not so much related to a general idea of cumulative dose, but to patient response. Meaning, if we both take a cumulative dose of 120 mg/k, and patient A gets clear early on and patient B doesn't, patient B is more likely to relapse regardless of the fact that we both hit the cumulative dose marker.

The research implies that what is necessary is an individualized approach. Success rates are more tied to getting clear and then staying on the drug around 3 months after than to cumulative dose in general.

Secondly, high daily doses do cause something called "apoptosis of sebaceous gland stem cells" which results in sebaceous gland suppression that lasts longer after your course (meaning, you won't get your oiliness back as fast if you take a high daily dose) - BUT, this same degree of sebaceous gland suppression can be induced by taking it at a lower dose for longer. For example, if patient A takes it at a high daily dose for 4 months, and their sebaceous glands are then suppressed from this for an additional 4, patient B could reach the same degree of suppression by consistently taking a low dose for the whole 8 months. So although their oilies are likely to return faster after the course, it would be at the same time as patient A with the shorter course anyway.

In conclusion, the length of time the sebaceous gland is suppressed does seem to be a factor, but this can be achieved through a shorter high dose course or a longer low dose course just the same.

AND, even with all of this, cumulative and daily dosing are still only vaguely related to relapse. There are other factors which have much more substantial influences. These are:

  • stopping isotretinoin before acne has cleared completely
  • macrocomedonal disease
  • severity of acne
  • excessive seborrhoea after finishing isotretinoin
  • smoking
  • younger age (under 14)
  • older age (women over 25)
  • polycystic ovarian syndrome

The high daily dose story and the cumulative one are based on incredibly old research that has since been proved faulty. The best thing you can do to avoid relapse is to make sure you are clear for a while before you stop and don't smoke. Otherwise it is out of your hands.

I won't list all my sources because I am lazy, but you can find most through the refs in this one:

Isotretinoin: dose, duration and relapse. What does 30 years of usage tell us? Rademaker, Marius

Australasian Journal of Dermatology, 2013, Vol.54(3), pp.157-162 [Peer Reviewed Journal]

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Oh, and I haven't yet found much good evidence on whether or not a high daily dose will clear you up faster, just that the sebaceous gland can be suppressed with as little as 2-5 mg per day.

And there is LOTS of research evidence that high daily doses are far more likely to lead to permanent scarring.

So I guess what I've been trying to say through all this is that getmetheresults has an excellent plan that is supported by plenty of current research, and anyone who says different doesn't have much current info to back them up.

Okay, now I'm done.

I just find people who are misinformed about Accutane and insistent with their misinformation incredibly frustrating.

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Hey guys,

I got 2 pimples on unusual places- one between my eyebrows and the other on the forehead. I think it might be from the OCM, but I'll keep using it to be 100% certain.

Just started 3rd month of BeYaz and I love my Blue Light!!!

Kind of tired of taking 15 multivitamins a day with my meals and drinking bitter teas. Thank god I can at least cook.

1 day left.

http://dermatologytimes.modernmedicine.com/dermatology-times/news/modernmedicine/modern-medicine-feature-articles/low-dose-isotretinoin-works-a?page=full

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Hey GetMeTheResults, just wanted to say good luck today (I think today is when you start your course?). Keep us all posted on how it goes. Accutane is a bumpy road sometimes, but it's a step in the right direction. Everything is gonna go fine, and you've got a lot of support from people on here who are cheering you on. Again, best of luck! Those "after" pics aren't too far off!

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Ummmm....

My doctor never put me on iPledge. He just kept my lab results as a souvenir I suppose????

I got a referral to another dermatologist, a friend of his, who does Accutane all the time.... Mine thinks that iPledge is like "opening a can of worms" because of all the side effects, even though they are rare and patients are closely monitored. He used to "prescribe it all the time," but with the "rise of all the side effects and then iPledge" he stopped. think he's just lazy to go through the paperwork... I mean, his office doesn't even accept credit/debit cards. He was like "I can do this for you if that other doctor can't do it for you. You're a great candidate for it because your acne is persistent... The birth control made things worse.... You should have kept using tazorac..." Blah blah blah. He was surprised that doxy and Taz for 2 months haven't helped and was asking me if I've been putting stuff on my face. I said no of course. I don't think the honey mask or the apple cider vinegar have done things worse.... So I told him that tazorac made things worse.... He said it was the bc pill. I have nothing else to say on the subject, let's just move on, I don't even want to mention anything anymore.

My new dermatologist is not the one he referred me to because he's too far just like the one I've been seeing. I used to drive all the way from upstate NY to Long Island because that's where I used to live and my mom thought that doctors upstate are not "in network" of my insurance... Apparently the one I found is... No more 6hr one-way drives.... Only 5 mins and they will fucking listen to me and my needs. Their practice is expanding and they are more of cosmetic dermatologists than anything. Accutane is on their website and their staff will do anything to their abilities to put me on it ASAP... They were so nice on the phone...The appointment is on July 30th. Must do the pregnancy test again, but not the bloodwork and I suppose I'd be able to get on accutane on August 30th, which is 2 days before school starts.

I WASTED MY SUMMER!!!

Hopefully things work out this time... Right?

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Ummmm....

My doctor never put me on iPledge. He just kept my lab results as a souvenir I suppose????

I got a referral to another dermatologist, a friend of his, who does Accutane all the time.... Mine thinks that iPledge is like "opening a can of worms" because of all the side effects, even though they are rare and patients are closely monitored. He used to "prescribe it all the time," but with the "rise of all the side effects and then iPledge" he stopped. think he's just lazy to go through the paperwork... I mean, his office doesn't even accept credit/debit cards. He was like "I can do this for you if that other doctor can't do it for you. You're a great candidate for it because your acne is persistent... The birth control made things worse.... You should have kept using tazorac..." Blah blah blah. He was surprised that doxy and Taz for 2 months haven't helped and was asking me if I've been putting stuff on my face. I said no of course. I don't think the honey mask or the apple cider vinegar have done things worse.... So I told him that tazorac made things worse.... He said it was the bc pill. I have nothing else to say on the subject, let's just move on, I don't even want to mention anything anymore.

My new dermatologist is not the one he referred me to because he's too far just like the one I've been seeing. I used to drive all the way from upstate NY to Long Island because that's where I used to live and my mom thought that doctors upstate are not "in network" of my insurance... Apparently the one I found is... No more 6hr one-way drives.... Only 5 mins and they will fucking listen to me and my needs. Their practice is expanding and they are more of cosmetic dermatologists than anything. Accutane is on their website and their staff will do anything to their abilities to put me on it ASAP... They were so nice on the phone...The appointment is on July 30th. Must do the pregnancy test again, but not the bloodwork and I suppose I'd be able to get on accutane on August 30th, which is 2 days before school starts.

I WASTED MY SUMMER!!!

Hopefully things work out this time... Right?

Wow Im sorry this is taking you so long to get on, that sucks! But Itll be worth it. Now didnt you have all the lab work done at your other Derm that you could have them send to your new one so you dont have to repeat everything again? Im really surprised he wont put you on it though. I dont even think its a lot of work for them. He must just be old school..

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I'll provide my new derm with the lab work but I need a new pregnancy test, so I have to wait 1 month.

Idk if the new one is going to be cool with a low dose, so we will see.

9 more days then 30 more...

Ill start using the leftovers (cuz I have a lot of them) of Taz and doxy, because I'm getting soooo desperate at this point and I don't know what else I can do..Maybe I didn't give Taz enough time (2.5mo) and should have given it at least 3-4 months or so...

Maybe it was my fault and should have been more patient... If I had only waited I might of responded well to it...

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Urgh the waiting game sucks so bad! But it'll be worth it. The first day you get to take your first Accutane pill will be the best day ever! It's good that you have a good feeling about your new derm. When you get a good feeling about something, it just means you're on the right path! So don't worry yourself with "what if this, and what if that", things happen for a reason. :)

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I'm so sorry you are having to jump through these ridiculous hoops! I do think some practices don't want to mess with iPledge. Just a heads up, some pharmacies are the same way. Once you get the prescription check on the ipledge site for a pharmacy that fills them and call to make sure.

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Sorry your having to wait even longer now! I would be very upset. But maybe the new dermatologist will be a better fit for you!

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