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To the above poster, don't feel sorry for me. My life outside of acne is awesome. This condition is just a small part of who I am. I have seen several 'skin specialists' and 'dermatologists' both natural and on the medical side of things. Nothing has worked long terms (The Regimen for a year and accutane for 2 years). I just think that my body chemistry is just marching to the beat of its own drum and such is life - I am one of many going through this. This post was not meant to have anyone feel bad for me. Pity never helped anyone.

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It amazes me the number of people that post here that think we've never heard of dermatologists. We've been to dermatologists and taken their drugs. They don't work.

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It amazes me the number of people that pistol here that think we've never heard of dermatologists. We've been to dermatologists and taken their drugs. They don't work.

a year-and-a-half or I guess nearly two years ago (wow, time flies!), they were about to put me on Accutane! However, I was 100% hormone and chemical free and trying to detox and eat healthy because I'm planning to have kids in a year or so (or eventually or whatever...and I don't want to poison them), and it seemed counterintuitive for me to take the doc required birth control pills as well as a dangerous chemotherapy drug *just* to get rid of my acne. I'm glad I knew people in high school that had such bad experiences (rectal bleeding, anyone?) with it that I was turned off completely... and that was before I really did research on it. All the topicals worked for a while, but eventually made my skin worse after a brief honeymoon period. BP is the worst, since it dries your skin so much that it starts to "seal" in its own gunk due to being too tight, which causes lesions, and not your friendly neighborhood surface zit that resolves itself in short order, but the buried-in-your-chin-feel-it-coming-for-24-hours variety. That's because acne doesn't start on the surface of your skin... it starts when you put food in your mouth. The one topical that I don't hate completely is Retin-A or OTC retinols, which are the only conventional topicals I still use, but only occasionally to "freshen up", like, say, if it's wintertime and my skin is dull and I want it to turn over quicker. I don't know how well they would work on me if I still had acne, but I hear they're good for preventing wrinkles.

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It amazes me the number of people that pistol here that think we've never heard of dermatologists. We've been to dermatologists and taken their drugs. They don't work.

a year-and-a-half or I guess nearly two years ago (wow, time flies!), they were about to put me on Accutane! However, I was 100% hormone and chemical free and trying to detox and eat healthy because I'm planning to have kids in a year or so (or eventually or whatever...and I don't want to poison them), and it seemed counterintuitive for me to take the doc required birth control pills as well as a dangerous chemotherapy drug *just* to get rid of my acne. I'm glad I knew people in high school that had such bad experiences (rectal bleeding, anyone?) with it that I was turned off completely... and that was before I really did research on it. All the topicals worked for a while, but eventually made my skin worse after a brief honeymoon period. BP is the worst, since it dries your skin so much that it starts to "seal" in its own gunk due to being too tight, which causes lesions, and not your friendly neighborhood surface zit that resolves itself in short order, but the buried-in-your-chin-feel-it-coming-for-24-hours variety. That's because acne doesn't start on the surface of your skin... it starts when you put food in your mouth. The one topical that I don't hate completely is Retin-A or OTC retinols, which are the only conventional topicals I still use, but only occasionally to "freshen up", like, say, if it's wintertime and my skin is dull and I want it to turn over quicker. I don't know how well they would work on me if I still had acne, but I hear they're good for preventing wrinkles.

I think BHAs can be good.

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It amazes me the number of people that pistol here that think we've never heard of dermatologists. We've been to dermatologists and taken their drugs. They don't work.

a year-and-a-half or I guess nearly two years ago (wow, time flies!), they were about to put me on Accutane! However, I was 100% hormone and chemical free and trying to detox and eat healthy because I'm planning to have kids in a year or so (or eventually or whatever...and I don't want to poison them), and it seemed counterintuitive for me to take the doc required birth control pills as well as a dangerous chemotherapy drug *just* to get rid of my acne. I'm glad I knew people in high school that had such bad experiences (rectal bleeding, anyone?) with it that I was turned off completely... and that was before I really did research on it. All the topicals worked for a while, but eventually made my skin worse after a brief honeymoon period. BP is the worst, since it dries your skin so much that it starts to "seal" in its own gunk due to being too tight, which causes lesions, and not your friendly neighborhood surface zit that resolves itself in short order, but the buried-in-your-chin-feel-it-coming-for-24-hours variety. That's because acne doesn't start on the surface of your skin... it starts when you put food in your mouth. The one topical that I don't hate completely is Retin-A or OTC retinols, which are the only conventional topicals I still use, but only occasionally to "freshen up", like, say, if it's wintertime and my skin is dull and I want it to turn over quicker. I don't know how well they would work on me if I still had acne, but I hear they're good for preventing wrinkles.

I think BHAs can be good.

Yeah, I also like BHAs and AHAs... just not for everyday use, but they are helpful for speeding turnover.

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I have some thoughts to share that I hope may be helpful. First off you may have a bit of rosacea along with acne --- it often manifests as constant breakouts versus the cyclical kind that is purely hormonal. So if that is true then diet will help. But you may want to consider looking into a rosacea type of diet which will also take care of many facets of your acne too as it is basically anti-inflammatory.

A very restricted diet to start will help you figure some of this out. Remember though that it can take a month or two to see results as the clogged up pores you already have are clearing out. You'll need to modify the diet to get the calories you need to function, especially if you're very active. I do marathons so I have to keep my calories up while still eating in a way that keeps inflammation down.

The diet which seems to be working for me, not only for my skin but also my digestion is wild fish, free-range poultry, fresh vegies, tubers (yams, potatoes with skins), rice, berries but not citrus --- no processed oils (margarine, butter, salad oils, etc.), junk foods, alcohol, spicy foods, sugary foods, nuts, dairy. Much of this diet is similar to a rosacea diet. Personally I find it to be a very calming diet. The two foods that were something I would never have considered eliminating were oils and nuts. I had always eaten those things thinking they are really good for skin and they may be ok for people who don't get clogged up pores but if you are prone to acne you may want to avoid them. I really saw an incredible change when I avoided processed oils. Just my experience.

Unlike most people on this forum, I do use some meds (Spiro, a BP cleanser, a topical antibiotic) and I do monthly microdermabrasions. I continued to break out on just the meds but adding the diet finally got me clear and has kept me clear.

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I have rosacea too and found that anti inflammatory diet habits is the best treatment. Before that I discovered aloe Vera worked as well as prescription creams.

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To the above poster, don't feel sorry for me. My life outside of acne is awesome. This condition is just a small part of who I am. I have seen several 'skin specialists' and 'dermatologists' both natural and on the medical side of things. Nothing has worked long terms (The Regimen for a year and accutane for 2 years). I just think that my body chemistry is just marching to the beat of its own drum and such is life - I am one of many going through this. This post was not meant to have anyone feel bad for me. Pity never helped anyone.

You have such a great attitude! So refreshing to see someone with such a positive outlook :)

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I have some thoughts to share that I hope may be helpful. First off you may have a bit of rosacea along with acne --- it often manifests as constant breakouts versus the cyclical kind that is purely hormonal. So if that is true then diet will help. But you may want to consider looking into a rosacea type of diet which will also take care of many facets of your acne too as it is basically anti-inflammatory.

A very restricted diet to start will help you figure some of this out. Remember though that it can take a month or two to see results as the clogged up pores you already have are clearing out. You'll need to modify the diet to get the calories you need to function, especially if you're very active. I do marathons so I have to keep my calories up while still eating in a way that keeps inflammation down.

The diet which seems to be working for me, not only for my skin but also my digestion is wild fish, free-range poultry, fresh vegies, tubers (yams, potatoes with skins), rice, berries but not citrus --- no processed oils (margarine, butter, salad oils, etc.), junk foods, alcohol, spicy foods, sugary foods, nuts, dairy. Much of this diet is similar to a rosacea diet. Personally I find it to be a very calming diet. The two foods that were something I would never have considered eliminating were oils and nuts. I had always eaten those things thinking they are really good for skin and they may be ok for people who don't get clogged up pores but if you are prone to acne you may want to avoid them. I really saw an incredible change when I avoided processed oils. Just my experience.

Unlike most people on this forum, I do use some meds (Spiro, a BP cleanser, a topical antibiotic) and I do monthly microdermabrasions. I continued to break out on just the meds but adding the diet finally got me clear and has kept me clear.

Thanks for the post. The elimination diet that i am soon to embark on i believe is also anti inflamatory like the one you have above. It includes tubers, veggies and fish. I know that it will take a while and that is something i need to work on (my patience). I am proud to say i have cut out all processed oil except for when i eat out and of course can't monitor what they use in the kitchen but that is rare these days. For the elimination diet, i will be more conscious of this. I don't eat nuts except for almonds in almond butter form but i'll cut this out as well. Hmmmm, rosacea was something the derm suggested years back but a part from the acne, redness overall is not really an issue. I am highly doubtful that diet can clear my acne as i have done it before and nothing but I am willing to try something new.

Thanks again

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I agree..One of the best posts I have ever read on this forum..and it does not relate to diet habits etc. Just the atitude..:) I am working towards getting there.

To the above poster, don't feel sorry for me. My life outside of acne is awesome. This condition is just a small part of who I am. I have seen several 'skin specialists' and 'dermatologists' both natural and on the medical side of things. Nothing has worked long terms (The Regimen for a year and accutane for 2 years). I just think that my body chemistry is just marching to the beat of its own drum and such is life - I am one of many going through this. This post was not meant to have anyone feel bad for me. Pity never helped anyone.

You have such a great attitude! So refreshing to see someone with such a positive outlook

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How come Alternavista hasn't replied?

Do we really need another Alternativista post stating the same thing, low GI diet, antioxidants, vitamin D, omega-3's etc. I have followed those things for well over 5 years, it does not have any effect on my acne. It's how you treat your skin externally, do not dry it, irritate it, don't destroy your good bacteria, keep your pores clear so that they don't get plogged. I think alternativista is a computer bot and has limited pre-made posts that are automatically posted, dead serious.

Finally someone who is actually sensible. Tretinoin? No way, I would much rather smear honey and lemons all over my face! Oh and, I would also like to change my diet even though it's almost impossible to pinpoint what it is that is actually causing acne. There's got to be tons of people who have been convinced that there is truth to all this, only to later wish that they had not wasted their time.

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How come Alternavista hasn't replied?

Do we really need another Alternativista post stating the same thing, low GI diet, antioxidants, vitamin D, omega-3's etc. I have followed those things for well over 5 years, it does not have any effect on my acne. It's how you treat your skin externally, do not dry it, irritate it, don't destroy your good bacteria, keep your pores clear so that they don't get plogged. I think alternativista is a computer bot and has limited pre-made posts that are automatically posted, dead serious.

Finally someone who is actually sensible. Tretinoin? No way, I would much rather smear honey and lemons all over my face! Oh and, I would also like to change my diet even though it's almost impossible to pinpoint what it is that is actually causing acne. There's got to be tons of people who have been convinced that there is truth to all this, only to later wish that they had not wasted their time.

Time is never truly wasted. I understand the frustration with diet not working and finding out if it may or may not help over years of experimentation, believe me, but there's nothing wrong with trying it out in the first place. If anything, it's another thing you've scratched off your list, so you can at least say to yourself "Hey, at least I tried my best and learned some awesome things", and then enjoy the rest of your day :). A diet change certainly worth a shot and a much better alternative that steroids and expensive medications in my opinion, so it's ok to be frustrated in the end. Frustration and failure is part of life, which without we would never evolve and learn anything. But don't close the books on your experience just yet, simply keep a mental bookmark of where you left off, take a break if you want, and be open to everything whenever and if ever you come around to it. Most people I know will say to me that they tried with 100 percent dedication to change their diet and complain how nothing is working (weight loss, acne, depression, etc.), yet invite me into their home for lunch and I'll see an incredible amount of crap food still and cigarets/beer/coffee still lying around in arms reach. It's always difficult to see the elephant in the room, and I personally use to not say anything at all, but sometimes others can see more to what may be wrong with you that you can, so it's ok to get feedback for something that you were almost certain doesn't work for you, because you never really truly know in the end.

I've noticed that people give up more easily that they realize, and most anger and passive aggression is from the fact that they are hiding something that they are suspecting is not working (avoiding good food, not eliminating most of their sugar, etc), avoiding answering questions, flat out lying and effecting others and their acne who also seek help, and not willing to truly change themselves on the inside. I am not accusing everyone who is like that that are frustrated with their acne, only merely suggesting that there is more at work in the human body than most people care to learn about. It's a difficult thing to see, but important none the less. Nutrition research changes all the time, bust so does dermatological research, so why not look at both? Why not try Dan's Acne.org Regimen and have a cheap home made stir fry at the same time? Bars of soap could be harmful, and even many vegetables could be the culprit, whoever said it would be easy for everyone? I once read an article by someone on the paleo diet who stopped eating salads and several other vegetables he used to mix them up with, and found that his acne went away as a result. I also read about how someone started using lotion on their face, any gentle kind, and discovered that almost all their acne went away simply because their skin just couldn't get the hydration it needed from their diet. You never truly waste your time trying something that might work, you just simply learned whether or not it did or didn't, and then move on. But please see that sensible people are also those who come on here and bravely give out free information on what they have found works for them and many others who don't even join the website to talk about it.

Thanks for the post. The elimination diet that i am soon to embark on i believe is also anti inflamatory like the one you have above. It includes tubers, veggies and fish. I know that it will take a while and that is something i need to work on (my patience). I am proud to say i have cut out all processed oil except for when i eat out and of course can't monitor what they use in the kitchen but that is rare these days. For the elimination diet, i will be more conscious of this. I don't eat nuts except for almonds in almond butter form but i'll cut this out as well. Hmmmm, rosacea was something the derm suggested years back but a part from the acne, redness overall is not really an issue. I am highly doubtful that diet can clear my acne as i have done it before and nothing but I am willing to try something new.

Thanks again

I feel for you as I can also be impatient and frustrated ;). Whatever you do, just be safe and keep up that experimental and positive energy! You've come a long way, so do what you feel is best and best for your body.

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How come Alternavista hasn't replied?

Do we really need another Alternativista post stating the same thing, low GI diet, antioxidants, vitamin D, omega-3's etc. I have followed those things for well over 5 years, it does not have any effect on my acne. It's how you treat your skin externally, do not dry it, irritate it, don't destroy your good bacteria, keep your pores clear so that they don't get plogged. I think alternativista is a computer bot and has limited pre-made posts that are automatically posted, dead serious.

Finally someone who is actually sensible. Tretinoin? No way, I would much rather smear honey and lemons all over my face! Oh and, I would also like to change my diet even though it's almost impossible to pinpoint what it is that is actually causing acne. There's got to be tons of people who have been convinced that there is truth to all this, only to later wish that they had not wasted their time.

Time is never truly wasted. I understand the frustration with diet not working and finding out if it may or may not help over years of experimentation, believe me, but there's nothing wrong with trying it out in the first place. If anything, it's another thing you've scratched off your list, so you can at least say to yourself "Hey, at least I tried my best and learned some awesome things", and then enjoy the rest of your day . A diet change certainly worth a shot and a much better alternative that steroids and expensive medications in my opinion, so it's ok to be frustrated in the end. Frustration and failure is part of life, which without we would never evolve and learn anything. But don't close the books on your experience just yet, simply keep a mental bookmark of where you left off, take a break if you want, and be open to everything whenever and if ever you come around to it. Most people I know will say to me that they tried with 100 percent dedication to change their diet and complain how nothing is working (weight loss, acne, depression, etc.), yet invite me into their home for lunch and I'll see an incredible amount of crap food still and cigarets/beer/coffee still lying around in arms reach. It's always difficult to see the elephant in the room, and I personally use to not say anything at all, but sometimes others can see more to what may be wrong with you that you can, so it's ok to get feedback for something that you were almost certain doesn't work for you, because you never really truly know in the end.

I've noticed that people give up more easily that they realize, and most anger and passive aggression is from the fact that they are hiding something that they are suspecting is not working (avoiding good food, not eliminating most of their sugar, etc), avoiding answering questions, flat out lying and effecting others and their acne who also seek help, and not willing to truly change themselves on the inside. I am not accusing everyone who is like that that are frustrated with their acne, only merely suggesting that there is more at work in the human body than most people care to learn about. It's a difficult thing to see, but important none the less. Nutrition research changes all the time, bust so does dermatological research, so why not look at both? Why not try Dan's Acne.org Regimen and have a cheap home made stir fry at the same time? Bars of soap could be harmful, and even many vegetables could be the culprit, whoever said it would be easy for everyone? I once read an article by someone on the paleo diet who stopped eating salads and several other vegetables he used to mix them up with, and found that his acne went away as a result. I also read about how someone started using lotion on their face, any gentle kind, and discovered that almost all their acne went away simply because their skin just couldn't get the hydration it needed from their diet. You never truly waste your time trying something that might work, you just simply learned whether or not it did or didn't, and then move on. But please see that sensible people are also those who come on here and bravely give out free information on what they have found works for them and many others who don't even join the website to talk about it.

>Thanks for the post. The elimination diet that i am soon to embark on i believe is also anti inflamatory like the one you have above. It includes tubers, veggies and fish. I know that it will take a while and that is something i need to work on (my patience). I am proud to say i have cut out all processed oil except for when i eat out and of course can't monitor what they use in the kitchen but that is rare these days. For the elimination diet, i will be more conscious of this. I don't eat nuts except for almonds in almond butter form but i'll cut this out as well. Hmmmm, rosacea was something the derm suggested years back but a part from the acne, redness overall is not really an issue. I am highly doubtful that diet can clear my acne as i have done it before and nothing but I am willing to try something new.

Thanks again

I feel for you as I can also be impatient and frustrated . Whatever you do, just be safe and keep up that experimental and positive energy! You've come a long way, so do what you feel is best and best for your body.

Thanks hun! I've been dealing with this since 2011 so it's been a while. But you know what, if you could do it and still hold your head up high, so can I.

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diets just doesnt work. nothing does.

im no newbie with those diets and healthy ways k?

this time

i even didnt eat nogluten grains and nuts anymore. no sweets, no lemonade whatsoever!! </3 barely to no dairy (once had somekinda probiotic superhealthy one anyway)

ONLY fruits, veggetables, some rare evoo, chicken, some fish, beans, greens, PLAIN water, green tea. NO SUGAR TO TEA EVEN!! even drink and eat separately for digestion. no eating at evening. everything perfect.

low cal, low sugar, low sodium etc and basically low on food?? o~o

even supplement omega 3, also vit d3

A WHOLE MONTH LIKE THIS!!

and?

NOTHING HAPPENED AT ALL! shits all over my face...everyday new ones like a rule...

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Thanks hun! I've been dealing with this since 2011 so it's been a while. But you know what, if you could do it and still hold your head up high, so can I.

I feel for you... I've had severe acne since I was 14, and psoriasis/eczema way before that (which turned out to be food allergies), so I know the feeling of being so utterly, completely, and embarrassingly helpless upon medication. I felt like a failed human being, despite my positivity on life overall. What universe would make someone suffer through so many things? Why this?

But you know... without it, I would have never found some good friends in the dermatologist community, nutrition community, and even in the neighborhood community I lived in who were going through the exact same thing as me, so it was an experience well learned :).

Your frustration on your diet is complete understood, at least by me, so please know that you'll always have people like us supporting you an helping you though out this endeavor until something hopefully changes for the better <3. For now, explore and seek alternatives, and whatever you do, don't feel like it's impossible. But please take a break, or heck... even give up!... if you're thinking that your acne is keeping you from enjoying your life. Acne or no acne, you are here to live, an that's all that matters :).

diets just doesnt work. nothing does.

im no newbie with those diets and healthy ways k?

this time

i even didnt eat nogluten grains and nuts anymore. no sweets, no lemonade whatsoever!! </3 barely to no dairy (once had somekinda probiotic superhealthy one anyway)

ONLY fruits, veggetables, some rare evoo, chicken, some fish, beans, greens, PLAIN water, green tea. NO SUGAR TO TEA EVEN!! even drink and eat separately for digestion. no eating at evening. everything perfect.

low cal, low sugar, low sodium etc and basically low on food?? o~o

even supplement omega 3, also vit d3

A WHOLE MONTH LIKE THIS!!

and?

NOTHING HAPPENED AT ALL! shits all over my face...everyday new ones like a rule...

I understand your frustration since many of us, including myself, have been there, but please know that it took me more than a year to see any kind of dietary improvement, and that one month is nowhere near enough time unless you happen to hit the bullseye with what may have been causing your skin to develop acne. I had to get rid of milk for more than six months until my cysts went away, and even then white heads were everywhere. Vegetables can be the culprit too, and even fruit can be way too much to handle. Always explore and never stop growing... if you give up then you give up. I gave up many times, but it was the break I needed to keep moving forward, so there can be a bit of an irony to stoping and then trying new things :).

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why would it take so much time?? imo month is more than enough to tell bcs by then all of what u eat previously should be out of ur system? also healthy properties and effects from good food etc etc

and year..year..YEAR??... this kind of diet took enough of determination and willpower already actually >.>.. but year? it would just mean no celebrating, no eating outside, just nothing?

whats even the point?

bcs are u even completely clear now and how do u know it was diet afterall after such time?? i mean at some point u kind of have to see that whether what ur doing has any effect or no right? and personally i kinda dont have to wait ages to tell method doesnt work? are u sure u didnt just grew out of it? ur just one of those ppl who r lucky to be programmed for shorter period of time for it probably..

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Diet has something to do with our skin and oily and fatty foods trigger acne but they are not the culprit alone for the acne. Hormones and genes have also something to do with acne and and our parents or relative have acne, most likely we will also prone to acne. So what we need is healthy diet, daily exercise and regular skin cleansing routine to control the acne.

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Diet has something to do with our skin and oily and fatty foods trigger acne but they are not the culprit alone for the acne. Hormones and genes have also something to do with acne and and our parents or relative have acne, most likely we will also prone to acne. So what we need is healthy diet, daily exercise and regular skin cleansing routine to control the acne.

Of course we are all prone to acne. Prone. Key word, there.

Diet affects those hormones and every other factor involved in acne. And there are more. Inflammation for example.

And it's really not oily foods. It's high glycemic food, bad fats, lack of nutrients needed to function, foods to which you are intolerant. And a few real foods that do harm that you consume too much of without consuming nutrients that help the body deal with harm such as gluten and dairy which both contains and promotes IgF-1 a major factor in acne.

why would it take so much time?? imo month is more than enough to tell bcs by then all of what u eat previously should be out of ur system? also healthy properties and effects from good food etc etc

and year..year..YEAR??... this kind of diet took enough of determination and willpower already actually >.>.. but year? it would just mean no celebrating, no eating outside, just nothing?

whats even the point?

bcs are u even completely clear now and how do u know it was diet afterall after such time?? i mean at some point u kind of have to see that whether what ur doing has any effect or no right? and personally i kinda dont have to wait ages to tell method doesnt work? are u sure u didnt just grew out of it? ur just one of those ppl who r lucky to be programmed for shorter period of time for it probably..

I am mostly clear most of the time and do happen to be completely clear right now. And I know its diet because when my diet worsens, my acne comes back. Also because I am armed with this thing called information. Real information. And I know the many ways diet affects acne and it is absolutely impossible for diet to not affect acne.

Stress, sleep and other habits also affect acne. And your posts aren't the posts of a calm person.

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yea well but then why its not helping for me yet? also there r ppl who say the same. diet just doesnt work for them. in fact i remember i was on really good diet before too, it was actually like year of it too, dont remember precice. it was about time i first time signed up here. took in account so much info etc. perfect topical care too. everything. everything completely useless.
pft..acne and uglyness causes stress in the first place so its like affecting its freaking self in neverending cycle that way..
as for habits, its the most ridiulous, i dont even drink or smoke or anything but look like a meth addict at the same time

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yea well but then why its not helping for me yet? also there r ppl who say the same. diet just doesnt work for them. in fact i remember i was on really good diet before too, it was actually like year of it too, dont remember precice. it was about time i first time signed up here. took in account so much info etc. perfect topical care too. everything. everything completely useless.

pft..acne and uglyness causes stress in the first place so its like affecting its freaking self in neverending cycle that way..

as for habits, its the most ridiulous, i dont even drink or smoke or anything but look like a meth addict at the same time rolleyes.gif

I read your other post and here is my response.

I used to get acne in all those places except I don't recall ever getting it on my belly. And the time I got it on my lower legs was when using baby oil for shaving. One of the few times I ever observed a topical clogging pores.

But the acne in most of those odd places turned out to be due to a food intolerance and all went away when I figured it out and avoided the food. For me it's citrus. I believe that different fruits caused the acne in different places and have observed a couple examples like cysts on my temples after eating a tangerine. I don't care to test each and every one.

Also, an ant inflammatory nutrient dense diet makes the occasional cyst I get much smaller, less inflamed and faster to heal.

Have you tried a methodical elimination diet?

Can you describe this 'really good diet' you say you were on and for how long?

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yea but whats explanation for why its spreading like that? when i had allergy i broke out everywhere at one time an those were itchy and well allergy pimples not acne. how does it pick its places like that? why its not breaking out at all places at the same time?
i also dont rub no oils on legs and nothing whatsoever. i just wash with soap but no its not bcs of something like that at all. no just totally no. i was just fine before either??
well ive eliminated gluten, dairy, cattle meat and ofc no yummy foods or snacks. all clean, home prepared food. no white sugar. sea salt etc etc
approx year
now for a month i additionally dint even had grains overall, no nuts, no seeds, not even beans n legumes
like MONTH
wth else to eliminate? what is left to eat then?
also when i was small id eat bunch of oranges or tangerines and then get those allergy breakouts, but its totally diff thing from acne and i long how grew out of it...
when u have allergy its completely diff breakouts!! its not acne!
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Home cooked, real food is 'yummy' food.

And you have to be logical. You need to do a methodical elimination of each food or groups of related foods for about a month each. It could be anything. Citrus, eggs, tomatoes, strawberries, peanuts, true nuts, almonds, shell fish, beef, chicken, nightshades. We've had people who could not eat any stone fruit or the related almonds. Or hydrogenated/trans fats, not that anyone should be eating that junk and the crap I suspect you are referring to as 'yummy' is likely made with bad fats.

I cannot tell you why the response you experience happens the way it does. I doubt an allergist can either. And they won't be interested and will tell you allergies don't cause acne any way.

yea but whats explanation for why its spreading like that? when i had allergy i broke out everywhere at one time an those were itchy and well allergy pimples not acne. how does it pick its places like that? why its not breaking out at all places at the same time?

i also dont rub no oils on legs and nothing whatsoever. i just wash with soap but no its not bcs of something like that at all. no just totally no. i was just fine before either??

well ive eliminated gluten, dairy, cattle meat and ofc no yummy foods or snacks. all clean, home prepared food. no white sugar. sea salt etc etc

approx year

now for a month i additionally dint even had grains overall, no nuts, no seeds, not even beans n legumes

like MONTH

wth else to eliminate? what is left to eat then?

also when i was small id eat bunch of oranges or tangerines and then get those allergy breakouts, but its totally diff thing from acne and i long how grew out of it...

when u have allergy its completely diff breakouts!! its not acne!

I agree that allergic responses probably are not true acne. What difference does that make?

I broke out in cysts/nodules. Dermatologists said it was acne and treated me for acne for those cysts giving me all sorts of antibiotics, topicals and accutane. Yet the cysts were caused by a food and went away when I stopped eating that food. Numerous other people here have reported the same.

So quit ranting and demanding answers we can't give you. Either do a logical, methodical elimination diet until you figure it out. Or get an allergy test that looks for responses besides the IgE antibody responses which is all the average allergist or doctor will care about. It will be expensive and can be prone to false positives and negatives.

Or, if you are so positive diet has nothing to do with your acne go to the other forums and talk about acne drugs and your feelings and whatever there. This forum is about nutrition and holistic health.

Also, btw, my recommendations would include that you stop impairing your skins ability to function with soap and to lightly apply an oil high in the substance which is deficient in the sebum of we problem skin prone people. A substance that's vital to your skin.

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think wtv u want but im not give up on candys, lemonades, chips, pizza, peanut butter and other stuff.. as soon as i clear up and be done with all those diets i wanna get all this stuff back, yolo, acne cant control everything..ill keep eating healthy for 70-85% but yea cos i have to go out of home to eat too, its unreal to eat only home food.. :T
well ok whats this methodical diet then? u mean i have to eat like veggetables one month, fruits other? hows that even possible? but can u link me to its system?
with soap i just meant washing legs not face..i just use tea tree/peppermint cleanser and organical antioxidant toner and thats it, sometimes anti acne moisturiser with zinc. oils break me out, even the jojoba one..

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Stress is the number one acne trigger. No matter how you clean your face and keep you skin hydrated yet when you are stress it will keep coming back. Exercise, good diet, and drinking lots of water are good for the health but keep yourself stress free. You can try ear candle but make sure to do it carefully.

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