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Why Hasn't Diet Had Any Effect On My Skin?

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It was hemp seed oil. Worsening in terms of more acne spreading over my face (not neck). It never stabalized or got better and at that point i got on another prescription drug. Acne included clogged pores and mostly inflammatory acne. Worse being on chin and cheeks. Regarding paleo, i do a lot of colorful vegetables, root vegetables, salmon and high quality meat and chicken. I get a typical 8 hrs of sleep and try to go to bed and wake up around the same time. I work indoors so not much sun. How much iu of vit D do you recommend?

What regimen did I recommend? What did you eliminate? You say there's been no changes, but then you mention it worsening. Worsening how? And you never improved from all this worsening? Just steadily worse? Always clogged pores on forehead? Always inflamed acne on cheeks, chin, neck?

Is your paleo diet high in ant inflammatory foods? What hours do you sleep? What about Daylight exposure? And 2000iu of D supplements is not enough unless you are getting it from the sun, which is best.

Well, I never recommended hemp seed. I recommend safflower oil for its high linoleic acid content. at most I might have said you can try it if you want and perhaps the omega 3 fats have some benefit.

What foods have you tried eliminating?

Lots of misinformation here. At it's heart acne is a disorder of the pore, mostly the way the follicle sheds which is abnormal and backwards - there is currently no way of eating that corrects nor worsens this process. Hence the reason diet and acne are irrelevant. Healthy eating has benefits on the the body but it will not fix this.

There are also no "different or special types" of acne, all acne is just plain old acne. These lables people on the forums are assigning like teenage/hormonal/bacteria/dietary acne are non applicable and entirely made up. Every kind of acne vulgaris (common acne) from comedone to nodular is basically a combination of a change or sensitivity to hormones which galvanizes the oil glands, improper shedding of the hair follicle and subsequent infection and inflammation.

I welcome you to the misinformation heaven, you can find all kinds of things in here. I'm a truly lifelong fan of healthy eating and living, but I don't expect it to have ANY effect on acne. Just like you said, if I wanna get rid of acne I have to keep my pores functioning properly externally. Alternativista claims she got her oily skin under control because of low GI diet but she treats her skin externally with vitamin B3 (a research proven way to reduce oily skin) and as we get older we produce less sebum (and she is old), so yeah, bunch of bullshit flying around here all over.

I started keeping my acne and oily skin under control with my diet about eight years ago. My topical regimen is only a couple of years old. You can see it in my posts the day I began researching skin barrier function and sebum composition. And if my diet worsens, my skin gets oilier and acne returns.

And I only use the niacinimide off and on whenever I get around to mixing up a batch. and it's for its anti aging benefit because, as you pointed out, I am so so old. I do however, recommend it to others as it is also beneficial for acne.

And kiddos, diet affects the "hormones which galvanizes the oil glands, improper shedding of the hair follicle and subsequent infection and inflammation". and so much more.

Diet is how your body gets the resources to function properly. Try to remember that your skin is part of your body.

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You know what? This post deserves reporting as well. I didn't attack you because, 1) I am not batshit and 2) I am a grown up.

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we should consider having a separate forum for the juveniles.

I'm 31 years OLD and everything I have said has been 100% truth. Don't be so tense lady, easy up.

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we should consider having a separate forum for the juveniles.

I'm 31 years OLD and everything I have said has been 100% truth. Don't be so tense lady, easy up.

Well, perhaps with a little discipline, you might learn to act like an adult. So people don't assume you are twelve.

Everything I have said has been the truth. And you aren't bothering me one bit. I'm proud of my age and that I am aging far better than anyone around me. But your remarks are innappropriate and should not be allowed. Especially considering how often I've politely answered your questions (PM and in the forums) while ignoring a great deal of rudeness. Like I said, without discipline, how will children learn?

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If I remember correctly paigems, you were the one who claimed that vitamin C helped your oily skin and acne, well that just destroys your credibility right away.. Vitamin C has really weak antioxidant properties and it is gone from your body in about hour, how is that good with anything? If you want some strong antioxidants go for astaxanthin and lycopene. I have been taking 12mg astaxanthin, 30mg lycopene and 30mg beta-carotene every day for a year now and even those won't affect oily skin or acne.

I'm not the only one who has had success with vitamin C. I don't see how that destroys my credibility.

Ok, Alternativista "grandma" It's a lot easier to use 1% salicylic acid every now and then to keep dead skin cells off your face, don't have to think what to eat. Much respect for you because you didn't attack me with batshit insane crazy attitude, have you gone soft "grandma"?

You know what? This post deserves reporting as well. I didn't attack you because, 1) not only am I not batshit but instead a sensible, logical, intelligent person 2) I am a grown up.

I have reported both as well. I have no idea why discussing diet and acne has to illicit this sort of response.

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If I remember correctly paigems, you were the one who claimed that vitamin C helped your oily skin and acne, well that just destroys your credibility right away.. Vitamin C has really weak antioxidant properties and it is gone from your body in about hour, how is that good with anything? If you want some strong antioxidants go for astaxanthin and lycopene. I have been taking 12mg astaxanthin, 30mg lycopene and 30mg beta-carotene every day for a year now and even those won't affect oily skin or acne.

I'm not the only one who has had success with vitamin C. I don't see how that destroys my credibility.

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What it does is show his ignorance. What you do is consume vitamin C throughout the day. As all humans should and the very few other animals on the planet that need to get their C from food. Most animals manufacture it. All day long. More when sick or injured. Because it's needed to produce new cells. All of them.

You also do not choose one antioxidant over another. They do different things in different parts of the body/cells.

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Have you guys calmed down? You shouldn't always be so serious, like it's funeral in here. Just be a little crazy and enjoy life, take chances, don't be afraid to LIVE! I remember the last funeral I was in, everyone was so sad in there and then the son of the diseased said "oh come on, cheer up everyone, it's not so serious, this is just life!". You don't get anywhere in life if you are afraid to live and always follow the rules, it's ok to break the rules sometimes, that's how you change the world for the better or the worse, but it's still better than mundane boring life. I would rather live just one day as a lion than 1000 years as a sheep.

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I had an allergic reaction to safflower oil two years ago, i remember it well as my face had hives everywhere.. thank god for benadryl. I have heard of people use hemp oil along with some type of oil that starts with an N i believe. Anyway both have antiobiotic properties, but I believe are not optimal by themselves. If you can look past some of the bias, and advertising/promoting of xyz product over at essential day spa forums you can find some good information the different types of oils and how to make your own stuff.

Oh donald duck here is living in wonderland believe that diet and exercise have no effect at all on acne. While i have been known to say that myself in the past, I cannot refute that certain foods (milk, peanut butter, tomato juice for example) and inactivity has led to an increase in breakouts for me.

But at the same time I see the point he tries to make and correlate it with what i have read about healing scars from past acne. If it takes so long to heal a scar topically, and ingesting vitamins, collagen, vitamin c or other pills is largely ineffective according to a derm I spoke to at my work then how is it that food has such a direct effect? Or is it just whats in the food, amount, and glycemic index? IDK just a thought. A thought that i is not meant to be offensive, or egocentric.

i'm really tired, but can't sleep...

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Try adding in raw vegetable juice, particularly carrot. Also, your body can take months to get itself in order. I altered my diet completely and while some inflammation went away immediately, my acne didn't disappear for a while. Acne is the end result of a cycle that can take months from start to finish. Make sure most of your food volume is coming from vegetable sources and eat plenty of cold-water fish like salmon which is very anti-inflammatory. Truth told, I lived off salmon and broccoli with butter for almost a month because it was the only thing that didn't break me out there for a while. Now I can eat anything but sugar and processed junk... and grapefruits break me out but not all citrus. Give your face time. I also really recommend a borage oil supplement. It's excellent for skin, and while I normally don't push supplements, it might be something that can help you. Try oil cleansing with Castor oil and grapeseed oil. I've had problems with most other oils for this method.

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Try adding in raw vegetable juice, particularly carrot. Also, your body can take months to get itself in order. I altered my diet completely and while some inflammation went away immediately, my acne didn't disappear for a while. Acne is the end result of a cycle that can take months from start to finish. Make sure most of your food volume is coming from vegetable sources and eat plenty of cold-water fish like salmon which is very anti-inflammatory. Truth told, I lived off salmon and broccoli with butter for almost a month because it was the only thing that didn't break me out there for a while. Now I can eat anything but sugar and processed junk... and grapefruits break me out but not all citrus. Give your face time. I also really recommend a borage oil supplement. It's excellent for skin, and while I normally don't push supplements, it might be something that can help you. Try oil cleansing with Castor oil and grapeseed oil. I've had problems with most other oils for this method.

Thanks for the advice. I unfortunately have been on this diet change seriously since 2012. I eat and drink all the things you suggest and it hasn't helped at all. I will continue to support my body as i have (i recently started exercising - its been a month) but for me, i think my acne goes further than diet

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Try adding in raw vegetable juice, particularly carrot. Also, your body can take months to get itself in order. I altered my diet completely and while some inflammation went away immediately, my acne didn't disappear for a while. Acne is the end result of a cycle that can take months from start to finish. Make sure most of your food volume is coming from vegetable sources and eat plenty of cold-water fish like salmon which is very anti-inflammatory. Truth told, I lived off salmon and broccoli with butter for almost a month because it was the only thing that didn't break me out there for a while. Now I can eat anything but sugar and processed junk... and grapefruits break me out but not all citrus. Give your face time. I also really recommend a borage oil supplement. It's excellent for skin, and while I normally don't push supplements, it might be something that can help you. Try oil cleansing with Castor oil and grapeseed oil. I've had problems with most other oils for this method.

Thanks for the advice. I unfortunately have been on this diet change seriously since 2012. I eat and drink all the things you suggest and it hasn't helped at all. I will continue to support my body as i have (i recently started exercising - its been a month) but for me, i think my acne goes further than diet

You still haven't answered my question. You said you did an elimination diet. What gave you tried eliminating?

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I must have missed that post. I cut all grains and dairy. For a while i also got rid of eggs, almonds and tomatoes.

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I must have missed that post. I cut all grains and dairy. For a while i also got rid of eggs, almonds and tomatoes.

Did you also cut out fruits, particularly dried fruits? I've noticed that even fruit sugar will set me off if I'm getting too much (like if I'm camping and noshing a little too often on dried apricots etc out of boredom) As I mentioned earlier, try eating a very limited diet and branching off from there to determine your personal sensitivities. I would not have noticed that grapefruit sets me off if I had not been previously eating a very limited diet of fish and green vegetables. Some people have issues with foods that would otherwise seem benign. Now I just avoid milk, grapefruits, processed crap, and sugar. Do you drink alcohol? Some people have issues with that as well. Your sig mentions that you have gone on accutane which permanently alters gene expression and can change your body inside and out. The people I know who have been on it have suffered digestive issues ranging from mild (cramps, constipation) to severe (IBS), as well as discovering that their skin, for better or worse, has changed considerably. Whoever takes Accutane and gets clear skin while suffering no permanent side effects should count themselves very lucky. I know more people who have had problems than not. It's way overkill, and way overprescribed (off label, since it's so dangerous).

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I must have missed that post. I cut all grains and dairy. For a while i also got rid of eggs, almonds and tomatoes.

Well that leaves a hell of a lot more foods that you might be intolerant to.

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I must have missed that post. I cut all grains and dairy. For a while i also got rid of eggs, almonds and tomatoes.

Did you also cut out fruits, particularly dried fruits? I've noticed that even fruit sugar will set me off if I'm getting too much (like if I'm camping and noshing a little too often on dried apricots etc out of boredom) As I mentioned earlier, try eating a very limited diet and branching off from there to determine your personal sensitivities. I would not have noticed that grapefruit sets me off if I had not been previously eating a very limited diet of fish and green vegetables. Some people have issues with foods that would otherwise seem benign. Now I just avoid milk, grapefruits, processed crap, and sugar. Do you drink alcohol? Some people have issues with that as well. Your sig mentions that you have gone on accutane which permanently alters gene expression and can change your body inside and out. The people I know who have been on it have suffered digestive issues ranging from mild (cramps, constipation) to severe (IBS), as well as discovering that their skin, for better or worse, has changed considerably. Whoever takes Accutane and gets clear skin while suffering no permanent side effects should count themselves very lucky. I know more people who have had problems than not. It's way overkill, and way overprescribed (off label, since it's so dangerous).

Accutane definitely saved me as a teen but as you said, who knows what permanent effect it has made to my body. But what's done is done. I am very wary of cutting out tons of food as the last time i did that i damn near gave myself an eating disorder and having acne and an eating disorder is a no go for me. What would a basic elimination diet look like that would not make me lose weight (as a i am active in the gym)? Also, how long would i have to typically wait and see to see if it works? The naturopaths i've been to have suggested i cut out certain foods based on different 'testing' methods and i've done that for long periods of time and nada. Oh acne, you are one complicated mofo.

I was never a dried fruit person and i never cut out fruits but i did limit it.

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I must have missed that post. I cut all grains and dairy. For a while i also got rid of eggs, almonds and tomatoes.

Did you also cut out fruits, particularly dried fruits? I've noticed that even fruit sugar will set me off if I'm getting too much (like if I'm camping and noshing a little too often on dried apricots etc out of boredom) As I mentioned earlier, try eating a very limited diet and branching off from there to determine your personal sensitivities. I would not have noticed that grapefruit sets me off if I had not been previously eating a very limited diet of fish and green vegetables. Some people have issues with foods that would otherwise seem benign. Now I just avoid milk, grapefruits, processed crap, and sugar. Do you drink alcohol? Some people have issues with that as well. Your sig mentions that you have gone on accutane which permanently alters gene expression and can change your body inside and out. The people I know who have been on it have suffered digestive issues ranging from mild (cramps, constipation) to severe (IBS), as well as discovering that their skin, for better or worse, has changed considerably. Whoever takes Accutane and gets clear skin while suffering no permanent side effects should count themselves very lucky. I know more people who have had problems than not. It's way overkill, and way overprescribed (off label, since it's so dangerous).

Accutane definitely saved me as a teen but as you said, who knows what permanent effect it has made to my body. But what's done is done. I am very wary of cutting out tons of food as the last time i did that i damn near gave myself an eating disorder and having acne and an eating disorder is a no go for me. What would a basic elimination diet look like that would not make me lose weight (as a i am active in the gym)? Also, how long would i have to typically wait and see to see if it works? The naturopaths i've been to have suggested i cut out certain foods based on different 'testing' methods and i've done that for long periods of time and nada. Oh acne, you are one complicated mofo.

I was never a dried fruit person and i never cut out fruits but i did limit it.

Since fish and green vegetables seem to be the least likely of most foods to cause acne in my experience, I'd start there. You'll be getting plenty of nutrition and protein for building muscle if you're sure to get a large enough portion at each meal. Be sure you eat plenty of dark leafy greens for minerals. Kale is great stuff, especially if you've cut out dairy and need to be sure you're getting enough calcium. If you don't like the taste, try juicing it. For cooking oil, use only cold pressed, unprocessed coconut oil. I have no trouble using butter for cooking (or eating), but that's just me. Are you taking any protein supplements? Whey gives me the worst acne. I can't touch the stuff, and soy protein isn't much better. I can't stress enough that carotenoids (vitamin A) from carrot juice will (probably) help you, unless I'm waaaaay offbase. I've never heard anyone having a reaction from vegetable juice. At one point, I was megadosing on the vegetable juice in my sig. I was drinking 2-3 pints a day of the stuff. My body could not get enough, and I felt great. Your body can store vitamin A, so after my initial megadosing period of 3-4 weeks, I've found I only need a maintenance dose of about a 1/2 pint per day or every other day. Whenever I feel run down or about to get sick, I drink a ton, though. Think of food like medicine. Eat only foods that are nutritionally dense, and don't fill up on stuff that isn't. Avoid fruits completely and add them in one at a time to see if there is one you're sensitive to. I've seen some weird sensitivities here on the forums. Don't think that you're doomed just yet!

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I must have missed that post. I cut all grains and dairy. For a while i also got rid of eggs, almonds and tomatoes.

Did you also cut out fruits, particularly dried fruits? I've noticed that even fruit sugar will set me off if I'm getting too much (like if I'm camping and noshing a little too often on dried apricots etc out of boredom) As I mentioned earlier, try eating a very limited diet and branching off from there to determine your personal sensitivities. I would not have noticed that grapefruit sets me off if I had not been previously eating a very limited diet of fish and green vegetables. Some people have issues with foods that would otherwise seem benign. Now I just avoid milk, grapefruits, processed crap, and sugar. Do you drink alcohol? Some people have issues with that as well. Your sig mentions that you have gone on accutane which permanently alters gene expression and can change your body inside and out. The people I know who have been on it have suffered digestive issues ranging from mild (cramps, constipation) to severe (IBS), as well as discovering that their skin, for better or worse, has changed considerably. Whoever takes Accutane and gets clear skin while suffering no permanent side effects should count themselves very lucky. I know more people who have had problems than not. It's way overkill, and way overprescribed (off label, since it's so dangerous).

Accutane definitely saved me as a teen but as you said, who knows what permanent effect it has made to my body. But what's done is done. I am very wary of cutting out tons of food as the last time i did that i damn near gave myself an eating disorder and having acne and an eating disorder is a no go for me. What would a basic elimination diet look like that would not make me lose weight (as a i am active in the gym)? Also, how long would i have to typically wait and see to see if it works? The naturopaths i've been to have suggested i cut out certain foods based on different 'testing' methods and i've done that for long periods of time and nada. Oh acne, you are one complicated mofo.

I was never a dried fruit person and i never cut out fruits but i did limit it.

Since fish and green vegetables seem to be the least likely of most foods to cause acne in my experience, I'd start there. You'll be getting plenty of nutrition and protein for building muscle if you're sure to get a large enough portion at each meal. Be sure you eat plenty of dark leafy greens for minerals. Kale is great stuff, especially if you've cut out dairy and need to be sure you're getting enough calcium. If you don't like the taste, try juicing it. For cooking oil, use only cold pressed, unprocessed coconut oil. I have no trouble using butter for cooking (or eating), but that's just me. Are you taking any protein supplements? Whey gives me the worst acne. I can't touch the stuff, and soy protein isn't much better. I can't stress enough that carotenoids (vitamin A) from carrot juice will (probably) help you, unless I'm waaaaay offbase. I've never heard anyone having a reaction from vegetable juice. At one point, I was megadosing on the vegetable juice in my sig. I was drinking 2-3 pints a day of the stuff. My body could not get enough, and I felt great. Your body can store vitamin A, so after my initial megadosing period of 3-4 weeks, I've found I only need a maintenance dose of about a 1/2 pint per day or every other day. Whenever I feel run down or about to get sick, I drink a ton, though. Think of food like medicine. Eat only foods that are nutritionally dense, and don't fill up on stuff that isn't. Avoid fruits completely and add them in one at a time to see if there is one you're sensitive to. I've seen some weird sensitivities here on the forums. Don't think that you're doomed just yet!

Thank you for taking the time to respond in a way that was not condescending or blaming.....i appreciate it. I can totally do salmon and veggies for a few weeks. I also love carrots and leafy greens (i do a fruit free green smoothie every morning). Is it ok to do sweet potatoes as well? What did you do for in - between snacks? Having done fish and veggies alone, i tend to lose weight real quick so thats why i asked

Thanks again for being patient with all my questions. I am completely dairy free by the way

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I must have missed that post. I cut all grains and dairy. For a while i also got rid of eggs, almonds and tomatoes.

Did you also cut out fruits, particularly dried fruits? I've noticed that even fruit sugar will set me off if I'm getting too much (like if I'm camping and noshing a little too often on dried apricots etc out of boredom) As I mentioned earlier, try eating a very limited diet and branching off from there to determine your personal sensitivities. I would not have noticed that grapefruit sets me off if I had not been previously eating a very limited diet of fish and green vegetables. Some people have issues with foods that would otherwise seem benign. Now I just avoid milk, grapefruits, processed crap, and sugar. Do you drink alcohol? Some people have issues with that as well. Your sig mentions that you have gone on accutane which permanently alters gene expression and can change your body inside and out. The people I know who have been on it have suffered digestive issues ranging from mild (cramps, constipation) to severe (IBS), as well as discovering that their skin, for better or worse, has changed considerably. Whoever takes Accutane and gets clear skin while suffering no permanent side effects should count themselves very lucky. I know more people who have had problems than not. It's way overkill, and way overprescribed (off label, since it's so dangerous).

Accutane definitely saved me as a teen but as you said, who knows what permanent effect it has made to my body. But what's done is done. I am very wary of cutting out tons of food as the last time i did that i damn near gave myself an eating disorder and having acne and an eating disorder is a no go for me. What would a basic elimination diet look like that would not make me lose weight (as a i am active in the gym)? Also, how long would i have to typically wait and see to see if it works? The naturopaths i've been to have suggested i cut out certain foods based on different 'testing' methods and i've done that for long periods of time and nada. Oh acne, you are one complicated mofo.

I was never a dried fruit person and i never cut out fruits but i did limit it.

Since fish and green vegetables seem to be the least likely of most foods to cause acne in my experience, I'd start there. You'll be getting plenty of nutrition and protein for building muscle if you're sure to get a large enough portion at each meal. Be sure you eat plenty of dark leafy greens for minerals. Kale is great stuff, especially if you've cut out dairy and need to be sure you're getting enough calcium. If you don't like the taste, try juicing it. For cooking oil, use only cold pressed, unprocessed coconut oil. I have no trouble using butter for cooking (or eating), but that's just me. Are you taking any protein supplements? Whey gives me the worst acne. I can't touch the stuff, and soy protein isn't much better. I can't stress enough that carotenoids (vitamin A) from carrot juice will (probably) help you, unless I'm waaaaay offbase. I've never heard anyone having a reaction from vegetable juice. At one point, I was megadosing on the vegetable juice in my sig. I was drinking 2-3 pints a day of the stuff. My body could not get enough, and I felt great. Your body can store vitamin A, so after my initial megadosing period of 3-4 weeks, I've found I only need a maintenance dose of about a 1/2 pint per day or every other day. Whenever I feel run down or about to get sick, I drink a ton, though. Think of food like medicine. Eat only foods that are nutritionally dense, and don't fill up on stuff that isn't. Avoid fruits completely and add them in one at a time to see if there is one you're sensitive to. I've seen some weird sensitivities here on the forums. Don't think that you're doomed just yet!

Thank you for taking the time to respond in a way that was not condescending or blaming.....i appreciate it. I can totally do salmon and veggies for a few weeks. I also love carrots and leafy greens (i do a fruit free green smoothie every morning). Is it ok to do sweet potatoes as well? What did you do for in - between snacks? Having done fish and veggies alone, i tend to lose weight real quick so thats why i asked

Thanks again for being patient with all my questions. I am completely dairy free by the way

Just thought I'd chime in. I think sweet potatoes are fine. In fact, I think they're good for acne. For between meal snacks I'd just have smaller serving of what you would eat at a meal. So more veggies and fish. I think some carbs like rice or oatmeal would be ok too.

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I must have missed that post. I cut all grains and dairy. For a while i also got rid of eggs, almonds and tomatoes.

Did you also cut out fruits, particularly dried fruits? I've noticed that even fruit sugar will set me off if I'm getting too much (like if I'm camping and noshing a little too often on dried apricots etc out of boredom) As I mentioned earlier, try eating a very limited diet and branching off from there to determine your personal sensitivities. I would not have noticed that grapefruit sets me off if I had not been previously eating a very limited diet of fish and green vegetables. Some people have issues with foods that would otherwise seem benign. Now I just avoid milk, grapefruits, processed crap, and sugar. Do you drink alcohol? Some people have issues with that as well. Your sig mentions that you have gone on accutane which permanently alters gene expression and can change your body inside and out. The people I know who have been on it have suffered digestive issues ranging from mild (cramps, constipation) to severe (IBS), as well as discovering that their skin, for better or worse, has changed considerably. Whoever takes Accutane and gets clear skin while suffering no permanent side effects should count themselves very lucky. I know more people who have had problems than not. It's way overkill, and way overprescribed (off label, since it's so dangerous).

Accutane definitely saved me as a teen but as you said, who knows what permanent effect it has made to my body. But what's done is done. I am very wary of cutting out tons of food as the last time i did that i damn near gave myself an eating disorder and having acne and an eating disorder is a no go for me. What would a basic elimination diet look like that would not make me lose weight (as a i am active in the gym)? Also, how long would i have to typically wait and see to see if it works? The naturopaths i've been to have suggested i cut out certain foods based on different 'testing' methods and i've done that for long periods of time and nada. Oh acne, you are one complicated mofo.

I was never a dried fruit person and i never cut out fruits but i did limit it.

Since fish and green vegetables seem to be the least likely of most foods to cause acne in my experience, I'd start there. You'll be getting plenty of nutrition and protein for building muscle if you're sure to get a large enough portion at each meal. Be sure you eat plenty of dark leafy greens for minerals. Kale is great stuff, especially if you've cut out dairy and need to be sure you're getting enough calcium. If you don't like the taste, try juicing it. For cooking oil, use only cold pressed, unprocessed coconut oil. I have no trouble using butter for cooking (or eating), but that's just me. Are you taking any protein supplements? Whey gives me the worst acne. I can't touch the stuff, and soy protein isn't much better. I can't stress enough that carotenoids (vitamin A) from carrot juice will (probably) help you, unless I'm waaaaay offbase. I've never heard anyone having a reaction from vegetable juice. At one point, I was megadosing on the vegetable juice in my sig. I was drinking 2-3 pints a day of the stuff. My body could not get enough, and I felt great. Your body can store vitamin A, so after my initial megadosing period of 3-4 weeks, I've found I only need a maintenance dose of about a 1/2 pint per day or every other day. Whenever I feel run down or about to get sick, I drink a ton, though. Think of food like medicine. Eat only foods that are nutritionally dense, and don't fill up on stuff that isn't. Avoid fruits completely and add them in one at a time to see if there is one you're sensitive to. I've seen some weird sensitivities here on the forums. Don't think that you're doomed just yet!

Thank you for taking the time to respond in a way that was not condescending or blaming.....i appreciate it. I can totally do salmon and veggies for a few weeks. I also love carrots and leafy greens (i do a fruit free green smoothie every morning). Is it ok to do sweet potatoes as well? What did you do for in - between snacks? Having done fish and veggies alone, i tend to lose weight real quick so thats why i asked

Thanks again for being patient with all my questions. I am completely dairy free by the way

I don't snack in between meals. In fact, I practice intermittent fasting where I only eat after a specific time of day (between 3pm and 7pm). If you need a snack, make it a high protein or high-fat snack to avoid blood glucose spikes, which can lead to acne. So no bread, crackers, crisps, granola bars, etc. Shouldn't be a problem since you're already avoiding grains, right? I've been known to eat a can of sardines or tuna when I'm feeling peckish after 12pm. However, you might have problems with canned stuff (I know... I know), so you should try to eat fresh fish as opposed to canned and then try canned later at another point. It's best to keep things really simple in order to rule things out one by one. You will probably clear up on fish and vegetables and vegetable juice, since they're very anti-inflammatory and benign foods. Avoid shellfish for now, since I've heard of that causing problems for some people. Once you start to feel better, try adding in oysters, mussels, clams, etc, since they are amazing for your skin if you're not sensitive to them. The key here is to eat simply and add things in one by one. If you eat something that sets you off, go back to your baseline diet for a few days and try again with a different food. This is a painstaking process, and I do not envy the journey you have ahead of you. However, the end result is worth it and it's now second nature for me to avoid my triggers (grapefruit, sugars, and milk).

edit: KEEP A FOOD JOURNAL. This is very important. I used to just nosh on random stuff and then forget later on what I had eaten. Anything that goes in your mouth, write it down. Including supplements, asprin, everything.

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I must have missed that post. I cut all grains and dairy. For a while i also got rid of eggs, almonds and tomatoes.

Did you also cut out fruits, particularly dried fruits? I've noticed that even fruit sugar will set me off if I'm getting too much (like if I'm camping and noshing a little too often on dried apricots etc out of boredom) As I mentioned earlier, try eating a very limited diet and branching off from there to determine your personal sensitivities. I would not have noticed that grapefruit sets me off if I had not been previously eating a very limited diet of fish and green vegetables. Some people have issues with foods that would otherwise seem benign. Now I just avoid milk, grapefruits, processed crap, and sugar. Do you drink alcohol? Some people have issues with that as well. Your sig mentions that you have gone on accutane which permanently alters gene expression and can change your body inside and out. The people I know who have been on it have suffered digestive issues ranging from mild (cramps, constipation) to severe (IBS), as well as discovering that their skin, for better or worse, has changed considerably. Whoever takes Accutane and gets clear skin while suffering no permanent side effects should count themselves very lucky. I know more people who have had problems than not. It's way overkill, and way overprescribed (off label, since it's so dangerous).

Accutane definitely saved me as a teen but as you said, who knows what permanent effect it has made to my body. But what's done is done. I am very wary of cutting out tons of food as the last time i did that i damn near gave myself an eating disorder and having acne and an eating disorder is a no go for me. What would a basic elimination diet look like that would not make me lose weight (as a i am active in the gym)? Also, how long would i have to typically wait and see to see if it works? The naturopaths i've been to have suggested i cut out certain foods based on different 'testing' methods and i've done that for long periods of time and nada. Oh acne, you are one complicated mofo.

I was never a dried fruit person and i never cut out fruits but i did limit it.

Since fish and green vegetables seem to be the least likely of most foods to cause acne in my experience, I'd start there. You'll be getting plenty of nutrition and protein for building muscle if you're sure to get a large enough portion at each meal. Be sure you eat plenty of dark leafy greens for minerals. Kale is great stuff, especially if you've cut out dairy and need to be sure you're getting enough calcium. If you don't like the taste, try juicing it. For cooking oil, use only cold pressed, unprocessed coconut oil. I have no trouble using butter for cooking (or eating), but that's just me. Are you taking any protein supplements? Whey gives me the worst acne. I can't touch the stuff, and soy protein isn't much better. I can't stress enough that carotenoids (vitamin A) from carrot juice will (probably) help you, unless I'm waaaaay offbase. I've never heard anyone having a reaction from vegetable juice. At one point, I was megadosing on the vegetable juice in my sig. I was drinking 2-3 pints a day of the stuff. My body could not get enough, and I felt great. Your body can store vitamin A, so after my initial megadosing period of 3-4 weeks, I've found I only need a maintenance dose of about a 1/2 pint per day or every other day. Whenever I feel run down or about to get sick, I drink a ton, though. Think of food like medicine. Eat only foods that are nutritionally dense, and don't fill up on stuff that isn't. Avoid fruits completely and add them in one at a time to see if there is one you're sensitive to. I've seen some weird sensitivities here on the forums. Don't think that you're doomed just yet!

Thank you for taking the time to respond in a way that was not condescending or blaming.....i appreciate it. I can totally do salmon and veggies for a few weeks. I also love carrots and leafy greens (i do a fruit free green smoothie every morning). Is it ok to do sweet potatoes as well? What did you do for in - between snacks? Having done fish and veggies alone, i tend to lose weight real quick so thats why i asked

Thanks again for being patient with all my questions. I am completely dairy free by the way

I don't snack in between meals. In fact, I practice intermittent fasting where I only eat after a specific time of day (between 3pm and 7pm). If you need a snack, make it a high protein or high-fat snack to avoid blood glucose spikes, which can lead to acne. So no bread, crackers, crisps, granola bars, etc. Shouldn't be a problem since you're already avoiding grains, right? I've been known to eat a can of sardines or tuna when I'm feeling peckish after 12pm. However, you might have problems with canned stuff (I know... I know), so you should try to eat fresh fish as opposed to canned and then try canned later at another point. It's best to keep things really simple in order to rule things out one by one. You will probably clear up on fish and vegetables and vegetable juice, since they're very anti-inflammatory and benign foods. Avoid shellfish for now, since I've heard of that causing problems for some people. Once you start to feel better, try adding in oysters, mussels, clams, etc, since they are amazing for your skin if you're not sensitive to them. The key here is to eat simply and add things in one by one. If you eat something that sets you off, go back to your baseline diet for a few days and try again with a different food. This is a painstaking process, and I do not envy the journey you have ahead of you. However, the end result is worth it and it's now second nature for me to avoid my triggers (grapefruit, sugars, and milk).

edit: KEEP A FOOD JOURNAL. This is very important. I used to just nosh on random stuff and then forget later on what I had eaten. Anything that goes in your mouth, write it down. Including supplements, asprin, everything.

How long should i try this for before adding in other things? Also, is sweet potato ok (i work out and need the carbs for energy). Lol...i don't envy the journey either.

So to be clear, my diet would be:

salmon and veggies morning, noon and night as well as sweet potatoes

green/vegetable smoothies - juices.

lots of water

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I must have missed that post. I cut all grains and dairy. For a while i also got rid of eggs, almonds and tomatoes.

Did you also cut out fruits, particularly dried fruits? I've noticed that even fruit sugar will set me off if I'm getting too much (like if I'm camping and noshing a little too often on dried apricots etc out of boredom) As I mentioned earlier, try eating a very limited diet and branching off from there to determine your personal sensitivities. I would not have noticed that grapefruit sets me off if I had not been previously eating a very limited diet of fish and green vegetables. Some people have issues with foods that would otherwise seem benign. Now I just avoid milk, grapefruits, processed crap, and sugar. Do you drink alcohol? Some people have issues with that as well. Your sig mentions that you have gone on accutane which permanently alters gene expression and can change your body inside and out. The people I know who have been on it have suffered digestive issues ranging from mild (cramps, constipation) to severe (IBS), as well as discovering that their skin, for better or worse, has changed considerably. Whoever takes Accutane and gets clear skin while suffering no permanent side effects should count themselves very lucky. I know more people who have had problems than not. It's way overkill, and way overprescribed (off label, since it's so dangerous).

Accutane definitely saved me as a teen but as you said, who knows what permanent effect it has made to my body. But what's done is done. I am very wary of cutting out tons of food as the last time i did that i damn near gave myself an eating disorder and having acne and an eating disorder is a no go for me. What would a basic elimination diet look like that would not make me lose weight (as a i am active in the gym)? Also, how long would i have to typically wait and see to see if it works? The naturopaths i've been to have suggested i cut out certain foods based on different 'testing' methods and i've done that for long periods of time and nada. Oh acne, you are one complicated mofo.

I was never a dried fruit person and i never cut out fruits but i did limit it.

Since fish and green vegetables seem to be the least likely of most foods to cause acne in my experience, I'd start there. You'll be getting plenty of nutrition and protein for building muscle if you're sure to get a large enough portion at each meal. Be sure you eat plenty of dark leafy greens for minerals. Kale is great stuff, especially if you've cut out dairy and need to be sure you're getting enough calcium. If you don't like the taste, try juicing it. For cooking oil, use only cold pressed, unprocessed coconut oil. I have no trouble using butter for cooking (or eating), but that's just me. Are you taking any protein supplements? Whey gives me the worst acne. I can't touch the stuff, and soy protein isn't much better. I can't stress enough that carotenoids (vitamin A) from carrot juice will (probably) help you, unless I'm waaaaay offbase. I've never heard anyone having a reaction from vegetable juice. At one point, I was megadosing on the vegetable juice in my sig. I was drinking 2-3 pints a day of the stuff. My body could not get enough, and I felt great. Your body can store vitamin A, so after my initial megadosing period of 3-4 weeks, I've found I only need a maintenance dose of about a 1/2 pint per day or every other day. Whenever I feel run down or about to get sick, I drink a ton, though. Think of food like medicine. Eat only foods that are nutritionally dense, and don't fill up on stuff that isn't. Avoid fruits completely and add them in one at a time to see if there is one you're sensitive to. I've seen some weird sensitivities here on the forums. Don't think that you're doomed just yet!

Thank you for taking the time to respond in a way that was not condescending or blaming.....i appreciate it. I can totally do salmon and veggies for a few weeks. I also love carrots and leafy greens (i do a fruit free green smoothie every morning). Is it ok to do sweet potatoes as well? What did you do for in - between snacks? Having done fish and veggies alone, i tend to lose weight real quick so thats why i asked

Thanks again for being patient with all my questions. I am completely dairy free by the way

I don't snack in between meals. In fact, I practice intermittent fasting where I only eat after a specific time of day (between 3pm and 7pm). If you need a snack, make it a high protein or high-fat snack to avoid blood glucose spikes, which can lead to acne. So no bread, crackers, crisps, granola bars, etc. Shouldn't be a problem since you're already avoiding grains, right? I've been known to eat a can of sardines or tuna when I'm feeling peckish after 12pm. However, you might have problems with canned stuff (I know... I know), so you should try to eat fresh fish as opposed to canned and then try canned later at another point. It's best to keep things really simple in order to rule things out one by one. You will probably clear up on fish and vegetables and vegetable juice, since they're very anti-inflammatory and benign foods. Avoid shellfish for now, since I've heard of that causing problems for some people. Once you start to feel better, try adding in oysters, mussels, clams, etc, since they are amazing for your skin if you're not sensitive to them. The key here is to eat simply and add things in one by one. If you eat something that sets you off, go back to your baseline diet for a few days and try again with a different food. This is a painstaking process, and I do not envy the journey you have ahead of you. However, the end result is worth it and it's now second nature for me to avoid my triggers (grapefruit, sugars, and milk).

edit: KEEP A FOOD JOURNAL. This is very important. I used to just nosh on random stuff and then forget later on what I had eaten. Anything that goes in your mouth, write it down. Including supplements, asprin, everything.

How long should i try this for before adding in other things? Also, is sweet potato ok (i work out and need the carbs for energy). Lol...i don't envy the journey either.

So to be clear, my diet would be:

salmon and veggies morning, noon and night as well as sweet potatoes

green/vegetable smoothies - juices.

lots of water

You can eat any kind of fish IMHO. Salmon is great, but I also love redfish, cod, tilapia, trout, and grouper. Catfish is also tasty. Try a borage oil supplement and a vitamin E supplement. Make sure your vitamin D levels are good at the doc's office. I try to get 20-30 minutes of sun exposure per day to optimize my D levels, and don't bother with supplements generally, but if you're unable to get sun, you could try the Thorne Research D+K2 drops, which I use in the winter time and on days that I don't get any sun. I don't think any of these supplements will trigger a breakout, so no worries there. I would continue with the limited diet until your skin becomes less inflamed... probably a couple weeks, minimum. Obviously, if your skin starts improving pretty quickly, you can start experimenting sooner. If you're like me, after a diet change, inflammation will subside before clogged pores do. You'll see lots of small skin-colored bumps but you'll notice those bumps don't turn into actual pimples. After a while, those go away too, but I wanted to give you a heads up if you notice those at some point.

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I feel sorry for you! You tried to get rid of your acne but it doesn't work for you. I recommend you to consult a skin specialist for your acne. They know how to treat your acne well. But I think in your condition it is hormonal and you need to consult your skin specialist immediately to avoid other damages or scars. You should also drink lots of water and eat fruits daily. Lemons can help you to lighten your acne.

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