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Milk Free Diet Cleared My Cystic Acne, And....

... Eliminating Sugar, Oil and most High GI/GL (Glycemic Index/Glycemic Load) foods cleared up the rest of my skin.

This worked for me, and may work for you. What I have been able to learn and understand for the past several years is that each and every person is different, and everyone will need to find what works for them and them alone. No one can do it for you, but this will do more for you than you could ever imagine.

If anyone wants to see my skin pictures, I've left them up in my galleries. They are all completely PUBLIC.

This is last post I will make here on this website. Anything else I do will probably be on a personal blog. I will consider coming back on occasionally to update some information, but I feel that my personal blog would be more than sufficient to answer any and all questions. The link to my blog will be on my public profile on this website, and that will lead you to where I actually am. I'm not going to make complicated and fancy threads on Acne.org because I've already spent a lot of time on this website as it is. I also apologize if you eventually come across any broken links on this particular forum, however I am only too happy to move on with my life and continue living the way I want to and care to.

If anyone wants to put this post into a more recent success thread, then please do so that others may see this.

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I joined this website when I was 22 years old, completely cleared when I was 23-ish/24, and am now currently 31 (since the time of this post's update). I came back to adjust some old information and update a few FAQs, as well as respond to several followers who were asking me questions. Hopefully this post, as well as my FAQ's page shown in my signature bellow, will answer most questions so that you make the diet and lifestyle changes you need for healthier skin and healthier life.

This is what you need to do if you have severe and long-term cystic acne:

1.) Put aside some time for yourself so that you may learn about acne and what it actually is. The past and even the future is not important, what's important is what you do HERE and NOW. Not what you did last week or what you'll do in 5 minutes... it's what you'll do NOW.

2.) If it's at all possible, get a blood test done at a clinic or doctor's office. Nothing fancy, whatever you can afford, although more data is probably more beneficial. It's always best to know where your starting from and where you stand when it comes to your health, and to make sure that you are ready for a GRADUAL diet change.

3.) Completely get rid of all your milk and milk-containing products for about three months to one year. And I mean everything. Yes, this includes pizza, yogurts, ice cream, milk creamers for coffee, several packaged and boxed foods, dressings and sauces… this also includes butter, powdered and evaporated milk, unique preservatives, etc. anything and everything with milk in it. Not just cows milk, ALL milk. As long as it is milk, it is a hormone. Milk is milk, it is not water. It is meant to make you grow, and it's purpose is to carry large amounts of NATURAL HORMONES into your body. So read labels: If it contains milk, skip it. Most supermarket mil comes from cows, and most cows are injected with growth hormones, which makes this process even worse than any raw specialty milk you may find at farmer’s markets. I am heavily emphasizing a three to twelve month time period because from what I have researched and experienced, some people responded well to only a few weeks to a few months but others were so bad that it took an entire year for their skin inflammation and acne to settle down. This is due to the high amount of dietary hormones running in their system. This may seem like a long time to go without milk, but hopefully these articles will explain in better detail why that is:

http://nutritionfacts.org/topics/dairy/
http://www.acnemilk.com/the_no_milk_acne_diet
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500165_162-573443.html
http://www.cgfi.org/2007/05/hormone-free-milk-ad-is-false/
http://randomfoodfacts.com/2013/07/02/rff26-theres-no-such-thing-as-hormone-free-milk/
http://dairycarrie.com/2011/12/07/boneless-bananas-hormone-free-milk-other-bs-bslabels/
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/magazine/articles/2007/12/16/a_clear_connection/?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21717454
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21663648
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22081694
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-157290/Do-know-truth-milk.html
http://www.ovarian-cysts-pcos.com/news109.html#sec1
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/do-milk-and-sugar-cause-a_b_822163.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/new-mrsa-superbug-strain-found-in-uk-milk-supply-8431187.html
http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/dairy-insulin/#axzz2PXiYLGfy
http://www.mendosa.com/insulin_index.htm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23542805

I will also say this: I am not sure if fermenting your own milk-based kefir or yogurt will work, but for me it didn’t. Plus I do not desire to consume any kind of animal milk based product. Maybe it's acceptable for someone to have fermented milk every now and then, or maybe the IGF-1 Growth Hormone that aggravates acne in acne prone people is killed off by heat when it is fermented and cooked, I really don't know. I can only say that I understand why people claim that homemade yogurt is beneficial to some with acne and not harmful. This is extremely difficult to tell unless you can somehow manage to track your skin at this time and know exactly where you are. Personally, I recommend getting ALL dairy and oil out of your system and seeing if you skin clears FIRST before assuming that you may or may not have melted/cooked/fermented milk products. Personally, don't bother with the headache until you have cleared up.

4.) Get rid of as much sugar from your diet as you can... white refined table sugar, high fructose corn syrup, cereals, ketchup, breads, preservatives, etc., and instead retrain your taste buds to enjoy the more natural, sweeter side of your foods. This is especially true for your vegetables.

5.) Get rid of all products that have any kind of oil in them. Yes, I do mean any: Cocoanut Oil, Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Sesame Seed Oil, Vegetable Oil, etc.. Do not buy granola, breads, pasta sauces or any other kind of product with oil in it. I know it may seem impossible, but there are raw/shelved/sprouted/refrigerated/whatever breads and products out there, particularly in health food stores, that do not have any additives, sugars and oils in them that you can enjoy. Shop on Amazon instead if you can't find anything local. Get a PO Bo if you don't receive packages at your home. Find trusted friends who will help you receive packages at their addresses, or look for alternative ways to live where you may be able to seek out these foods instead. Hopefully something in this video may help:

 

6.) Go to your local library (and/or free PDF Internet databases) and find/research charts with High Glycemic Index/Loads foods. Begin omitting as many blood sugar raising foods as possible. This is completely and 100 percent possible without putting your overall health in a nutrient deficient state. You'll want to change your diet as calmly and safely as possible, but not to the point where you feel as though you are starving yourself. Do this slowly and gradually, preferably changing only a couple things per week. Here are just a few articles I have read that have the most impact (Please wait for some of the links and PDF files to load):

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17616769
http://www.cancersupportinternational.com/CID%20Diet%20Acne.pdf
http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/161/12/1094.full.pdf+html
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/86/1/107.full.pdf+html?sid=3b884d3c-73c0-4315-9167-9bb325b88d78
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDMQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.medicaljournals.se%2Facta%2Fcontent%2Fdownload.php%3Fdoi%3D10.2340%2F00015555-1346&ei=unpAUo_ANYGDrAGKjIGACQ&usg=AFQjCNFvrY2LVwzAsX0SLKl9-RTnZ8hWYw&sig2=ytkP9_0_ZnhvP8brqtJypg&bvm=bv.52434380,d.aWM
http://search.medscape.com/news-search;jsessionid=C0A1D518B8E32A4983E3A2F792610264?newSearch=1&queryText=diet+and+acne&submit.x=0&submit.y=0&submit=Search
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/76/1/5.full.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18194824?ordinalpos=1&itool=En…bmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=1&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15688807
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17083856?ordinalpos=1&itool=En…bmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=3&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3523245?dopt=Abstract
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/printerfriendlynews.php?newsid=77676
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17448569
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15692464?ordinalpos=1&itool=En…bmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=2&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed
http://archderm.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=479093
http://highaltitudecrossfit.com/Primal_Blueprint.pdf
http://www.eat-real-food-paleodietitian.com/support-files/Paleo-FODMAP-food-list.pdf
http://www.eat-real-food-paleodietitian.com/support-files/sibo-gut-healing-protocol.pdf

7.) Find a user on this website known as Alternativista and find her topics/posts in the diet/holistic health boards, and read as many as you can. Start here:

https://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/230714-good-things-for-the-many-factors-that-lead-to-acne/

8.) Drink a minimum amount of 2-3 bottles of water a day (does not have to be bottled). Do not drink and eat at the same time, and always drink in the morning when you can. If you are thirsty, however, drink and then wait to allow your stomach acid to return to a state of proper food digestion. Also, chew your food well.

9.) Sleep 7-8+ hours a day if possible.

10.) Walk, or at least create an exercise regimen. Don't just strenuously run for long periods of time, just walk if you are not able to do anything else. Walk for long distances if possible, and enjoy every single step you take. Do it at least once a day, two times a day being your best bet. If I don't walk, I am already naturally moving around a lot throughout my entire day, or have been training in such activities like AiKido. Don't turn it into something you won't enjoy, and don't think/worry about it anything much, otherwise you'll just end up hurting yourself and your skin even more.

11.) Do not stress about your acne. There are millions of other things you could be doing or not doing, and getting it off your mind is important so that you are open and available to everything else in life. Learn better things. I was able to be stress-free the entire time I was learning, and created great positive energy and inspiration from the entire experience. I had no idea if and when my acne would go away, no guarantees, no ‘easy’ path, no ‘one-time answer/cure’, and no one to turn to for help, but I deeply knew that my diet played a huge part in it. I remained calm, centered, and absorbed everything I could. Learn, be open, relaxed and peaceful.

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You may not like this answer, but no matter what I tell you or how much you read, you'll never find out what works for you until you do something. I'm not you and you're not me. But I do know that a diet change will help you, and you'll never know unless you try for yourself, and honestly try. Truthfully, honestly, and knowingly try. You have to want this, not want to want this. See the benefits, see the possibilities, and explore. Be brave, and watch everything you say, do, think, and realize. Just begin.

A diet change helped me greatly, and it will help you too. My diet is basically a whole foods plant based diet, with an occasional treat of some sort (dark chocolate, potato chips, etc.). I eat vegetables, fruits, beans/lentils, oatmeal, lentils, beans and legumes, and nuts/seeds. Most legumes and nuts are soaked. I still occasionally eat rice, but not every day. I do not eat meat because of the compassion I have for all living things. I do not eat eggs because they are cholesterol raising and heavy for the heart. I do not eat oil because it is unhealthy for the gut and heart and especially the skin. I drink mainly water and fresh, hot tea (real, loose leaf tea, not the bagged kind) almost every single day. Once in a while I'll fast. I take no vitamins and supplements since they are not necessary on a wholesome, real foods diet. All my fruit is usually eaten raw, and the vegetables I eat are either fresh (raw) or bought fresh/frozen and then steamed/boiled/stir-fired/baked. I avoid probably around 90 percent of most average westernized grocery stores. My diet is a beautiful, vast, powerful lifestyle, and is something that we all can benefit from. It is not the magic pill, but it does allow for magic and creativity to be born within you.

Nothing I do is scheduled or recorded. I simply live my life to the best extent I can, eat when I need to, sleep when I have to, and I always find ways to enjoy whatever I do and whenever I do it.

I've spent less money, stopped washing my face with harsh chemicals, stopped putting my hair up, stopped visiting my dermatologist, and stopped having cystic acne. I honestly cannot see what others have to lose, but I do understand that a diet and, let's face it, a lifestyle change, is not something people are anxious to do. I didn't care for the diet I had before, so this wasn't a problem for me. Maybe you do care about your diet, in which case you may need to work on how to get off it and be ready for change.

If you're having difficulty wanting to change the way you eat and live, then try putting some time aside and watch a few food documentaries. They may help you make the right diet change for you. Look on Netflix, YouTube, your local Library, Amazon.com, wherever, and put whatever time aside that it takes for you to watch them. Some examples are: Food Inc., "Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead", Supersize Me, Food Matters, Forks Over Knives, The Future of Food, Hungry For Change, King Corn, May I Be Frank, Simply Raw - Reversing Diabetes In 30 Days, and so on.There are probably dozens more food/health documentaries out there, but I'm sure you get the point. Also, seek out diet communities in your local neighborhoods or towns, and meet people who have been through the same things you have. Learn to work together with other people, and join a network of entrepreneurial-like thinkers and people who care deeply about the same things you do. Libraries, town communities and even college campuses are a great place to start for so many things in life.

Please understand that I am not trying to shove Raw Food-ism, Veganism, Vegetarianism, Paleo Diet-ism, Mediterranean-ism, Cave Man-ism or whatever kind of diet into your face. I'm just giving you the suggestion that you should definitely be exploring the dietary alternative before going to the extreme with pills, lasers, steroids and all those other chemicals most of us have sought out at least one point in our lives.

I am also not suggesting that you never talk to a doctor or nutritionist first before making any kind of big changes. Certainly get yourself checked out if you suspect something is wrong with you, or if you just to make sure nothing else is wrong. If you can't afford that, network and find some good trusting friends in a similar field who may be able to help.

Truthfully, I am not on any particular diet, nor am I choosing a side of the nutrition war. I am simply myself... nothing more. My diet has no name. I am as natural and organic and I can be with exceptions that I know my body can handle. I make most of my own food and found things that I liked to create and share. Telling you every detail of my diet would be impossible since I am natural and constantly changing. I enjoy and love all the varieties that life has to offer when it comes to food.

In Conclusion, I will say that the biggest thing that helped me with my cystic acne and white heads would be NO MILK, NO SUGARS (table sugar, high fructose corn syrup, etc.), NO OILS, and VERY FEW HIGH GI/GL FOODS with plenty of water (drank at the right time), vegetables and fruits. Certainly, always consume more vegetables than fruit in your overall lifestyle.

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Help for you to get started:

I'll provide a list of links for you to read and explore whenever you get the chance. Make sure you are getting as many vitamins, minerals, EFA’s (Essential Fatty Acids), sunlight and exercise that your body needs to function and maintain itself. You don't have to be completely strict and daily with everything, but it does have to be an overall lifestyle change. Becoming friends with your doctor and/or nutritionist, or people who appreciate this lifestyle and know the in’s and out’s of change, would be a good support, so try starting with them.

I've always enjoyed properly organized and easy to print PDF pages and information… the specific lists/charts I will give you bellow will help you decide on choosing what foods you want to eat and/or are able to get your hands on based on the minerals/vitamins listed (you’ll have to figure out your own lifestyle and custom made diet):

The minerals your body needs: http://www.health-al...tion-chart.html

The vitamins your body needs: http://www.health-al...tion-chart.html

The protein your body needs (Legumes): http://www.health-al...tion-chart.html

The protein your body needs (Animals): http://www.health-al...tion-chart.html

Although this website provided the above information for free, it also has the information available for sale as Printable PDF Formats. However, with any luck you should be able to either copy and paste the information onto your computer, as well as using any internet search engine to find other websites with similar nutrition information. I personally prefer the printable charts because they are easy to read and understand, as well as organized.

The FDA's Educational Resource Library:   (I understand that a lot of us do not agree with what the FDA does, but getting the raw data is more important. If you don't agree with any of the information and/or are skeptical of who has collected it/funded it, then make your own charts and seek those with greater truth. Personally, any resource is always a plus, and is an important first step for anyone to consider. With that said, this site has free "Nutrition and Labeling" information in printable PDF formats. Just click on your term of choice, such as Vitamin A, from the drop down menu list and explore the information.)

Here’s another website with some of their own printable PDF documents and extra information: http://www.abcompany...n/nutrition.htm

To the upper left of the home page http://www.abcompany.com/index.htm , there is a search bar. The site seems kind of unorganized, so I just typed in "nutrition" and followed whatever links were promising. Read and understand website's URLs to backtrack to other places that may or may not be hidden, too. For example, they didn't have the link on their website but it still exists. An example of a printable PDF page they have is "food combinations": http://www.abcompany...d_combining.htm .

Learn about labels and what they mean: http://nutritiondata.self.com

Here's a good Vitamin D website: http://www.vitamindw...om/VitaminDWiki

Here’s a great popular educational website with easy to understand videos and articles. Just a heads-up, this website is practically vegan. If you're worried about that then please move on, but the information on the fruits and vegetables alone are amazing: http://nutritionfacts.org/topics/milk/

A complete lists of Vegetables, Fruits, Grains, Nuts and Seeds: http://vegetablesfruitsgrains.com

An alphabetical list of Fruits and Vegetables and some extra data (PDF Format): http://www.education...tionSection.pdf

A website where people, mostly vegetarians, discus updated research about Vegan, Paleo, Raw Food, Fruitarian, etc… diets: http://www.beyondveg.com

And finally, I saved one of the best for last. It's the only other acne website that we all can trust since it has outstanding data and articles to read: http://www.acneeinstein.com . Definitely worth the cost of membership. There are printable PDF formats there, and so much information to seek out. I had also bought his book and enjoyed reading it very much. 

 

It's possible to always find more information, but learning as much as you can makes the road traveled much less suffering.

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SPECIAL NOTE: I had eczema as well.

You do NOT need to have both skin conditions for any of my diet and lifestyle change recommendations to work.

That's right. Acne AND Eczema. People have asked me if they were possibly related to the same "cause", and I’m pretty sure they were. I have never met anyone else like myself, and very few people online with this double-sided nightmare. After doing a lot of extra reading, I discovered that many skin issues probably come from the gut, and that it is possible and common for someone to have more than one kind of skin issue at a time. In fact, it's more common that inflammation is hidden under the skin and/or inside the body, not just exposed outwardly like mine was. My eczema's outbreak was not milk, like milk was for most of my cystic acne. It was actually food intolerance's, and the body trying to constantly adjust itself without fully understanding what was going on. And for me, that particular food was tomatoes.

Eczema had been with me most of my life, longer than the acne was, and no one ever really knew the cause of it. Most of the time it was just dry and slightly red, but a few times it was bright red and painfully burned. My family and I just assumed that it was incurable, and I was given topical steroids and creams to make the rash go away. Sometimes of the time the creams worked, but sometimes they didn't. My rash mostly appears on the bend of my arms, and s a child it was behind the kneecap and on my feet. During my early 20's, it started to spread all over my fingers, hands and face, but the other areas disappeared.

Eating healthy for my acne ironically inspired me to go on what most people would call an ‘Elimination Diet’. I joined acne.org after a year of reading online articles from it, and while doing the Acne.org regimen I began to expanding my research into other community boards as well, eventually finding my way into the diet and holistic health posts. I had always deeply suspected that my diet played a role in my skin, despite my friends and family eating similarly to me with no acne and eczema. Accepting that your skin may be more prone is the first step towards healing it. After reading several success stories, I was complete surprised that acne could be "cured" by diet and lifestyle changes. Without hesitation I immediately started eating more vegetables and fruits, simultaneously omitting tons of other things like oils and sugars. This is also when I started juicing vegetables, inspired by this post:

https://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/288705-how-i-cleared-my-acne-after-26-years-try-it/

Anyway, when I was juicing vegetables and eating a ton of tomatoes, my childhood eczema came back with a fiery vengeance. It was all over my face, arms and hands. I suspected tomatoes when I was getting nauseous after eating food with them, and from my rash flaring up immediately as well. This took a while to catch on, but when I took them out of my diet, my rash immediately stopped flaring up. After a couple of months of wrapping and moisturizing my rashes, they too began to heal. My skin literally began changing; Fresh, new skin began to show where the eczema had overtaken. My rash was basically due to not being able to handle tomatoes. If I weren’t trying to eat healthy to get rid of my acne, I would have never discovered this.

With all this said, some people have told me that eczema/psoriasis is actually a food allergy/intolerance and not just itchy skin:

http://www.dryskinsrash.com/a-skin-rash-caused-by-food-allergies/ and http://www.fda.gov/Food/IngredientsPackagingLabeling/FoodAllergens/default.htm

If I were to eat tomatoes during this time, it would only take an hour or so to feel the eczema develop. During this time frame, bodily sensations, symptoms, and lack of any other issue outside of my diet suggested that my gut was likely what was causing the rash and rejecting the food. Interestingly enough, the gut also held the main cause for my acne as well:

GUT Acne:
http://gutflora.com/?p=344
http://chriskresser....ffects-the-skin
http://www.ncbi.nlm....les/PMC3038963/
http://www.acneeinst...kin-connection/

GUT Eczema/Psoriasis:
http://www.medicalne...cles/255235.php
http://voices.yahoo....iet-195093.html
http://www.medicalne...cles/264719.php
http://www.caringdoc...is-in-your-gut/
http://primaldocs.co...a-or-psoriasis/

So naturally after learning this, I was curious to see if this issue could be physically detected in other ways. Unfortunately, after several allergy tests and an endoscopy, my doctors couldn’t find any evidence of a gut problem within me, only to suggest that I should obviously avoid whatever it was I was eating if I noticed my skin reacting to it.

Is avoidance a cure? Yes and No. It’s a cure in a sense that you no longer have the rash, and no because it’s not the magic pill that people are looking for when they still want to consume the product. Also, after about seven years of avoiding tomatoes, I was able to eat them again. I know that may seem like an impossibly long time, but it's worth it when you have a pain free life ahead of you. I have heard similar stories from people who were allergic to things such as onions, strawberries, etc. since childhood, only to realize that they grew out of it several years later. Some people do not, which is often the case for allergies related to nuts, peanuts and other harsh chemicals, but it’s still worth safely exploring and discovering.

No matter what happens, we must accept what we are given if we are to go beyond the past a move on with the natural changes of the universe. This may not be what everyone likes to hear, but it's the closest thing to truth that can be understood. If you want to see pictures of my eczema/psoriasis they're right here (Please note that my acne AND rash was going away at the same time, so I did not catch the rash at it's full strength... it was already healing at this point. After these pictures, everything was gone in about 2 months):

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This woman's blog may also be helpful to you (the pictures of her hands were exactly how mine looked): https://thebutterchurn.wordpress.com/2013/10/15/dyshidrotic-eczema-a-malady-of-concerning-cause-and-effect/ .

Rubbing Apple Cider Vinegar (diluted) on my hands seemed to help keep the redness, itching and blisters disinfected, but it painfully stung when the blisters were open. Diluted ACV is also great for getting rid of ringworm, athlete’s foot, and eczema caused by direct mold/bacteria contact situation. Unlike alcohol, ACV does not dry out your skin and even leaves it soft.

People say there is no "cure" for eczema, but I am convinced that that's because they refused to get rid of their daily allergens, which over time overwhelms their bodily systems and becomes the "cause". Why did no one else in my family suffer Eczema like I did? I don't know, but I was also the only one to discover and admit that my diet and lifestyle was terrible for a young female like myself. I now know and understand that my gut went out of whack with the overwhelmingly polluted and unhealthy diet and lifestyle environments that society had to offer, and that the physical allergens and pesticide carrying food was too strong for my already unhealthy and exhausted body and skin to keep up with. So no matter what people say to you, do not be tempted by their lazy and over simplified statements that what you eat does not affect you. Others will not understand our skin because they simply do not have what we do, and do not experience what we went through. Do not let this deter you, and do not be tempted by ignorance.

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Seriously, thank you all for your support, love, and kindness. I could have never made it this far and this fast without everyone who helped, and the research that was provided in the world. Surprisingly, most of this knowledge is already basic, and free, if you know where to look and apply yourself.

Whatever you decide to do, be smart, be safe, be sensitive to your own needs, and be open to ALL possibilities.

Blessings to you all.
In Spirit and Truth, Renee

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Very good post. Thanks for backing up your claims as well.

I've been avoiding all dairy and it has been helping a lot. I have been eating less high GI foods, but it's difficult to completely eliminate them.

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Very good post. Thanks for backing up your claims as well.

I've been avoiding all dairy and it has been helping a lot. I have been eating less high GI foods, but it's difficult to completely eliminate them.

Thank you! And yes, high GI/GL foods are difficult to get rid of, especially when everyone reacts differently to them and when they have the nutrients we need to survive. All I can say is find what works for you and provide as much data as you can to support your claims. Personally, getting rid of some bread was pretty difficult for me, but not impossible. try to start from scratch if you can: If a spoonful of rice once a week won't do anything to you, try two spoonfuls. Gradually increase your dose until you are able to come up with a satisfactory conclusion. It takes time to start from scratch like this (months at the least), but it's way better than bouncing all over the place unorganized and without support for years and years. Good luck to you!

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Very good post. Thanks for backing up your claims as well.

I've been avoiding all dairy and it has been helping a lot. I have been eating less high GI foods, but it's difficult to completely eliminate them.

Thank you! And yes, high GI/GL foods are difficult to get rid of, especially when everyone reacts differently to them and when they have the nutrients we need to survive. All I can say is find what works for you and provide as much data as you can to support your claims. Personally, getting rid of some bread was pretty difficult for me, but not impossible. try to start from scratch if you can: If a spoonful of rice once a week won't do anything to you, try two spoonfuls. Gradually increase your dose until you are able to come up with a satisfactory conclusion. It takes time to start from scratch like this (months at the least), but it's way better than bouncing all over the place unorganized and without support for years and years. Good luck to you!

I'm glad you came back and bumped your great post.

And regarding the high GI/GL foods, remember, it's the GL of the whole meal that matters. And by meal I mean the sum total of whatever you consume at a given time. So that includes snacks & drinks throughout the day.

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I'm glad you came back and bumped your great post.

And regarding the high GI/GL foods, remember, it's the GL of the whole meal that matters. And by meal I mean the sum total of whatever you consume at a given time. So that includes snacks & drinks throughout the day.

Sure thing!

Thanks for the tip! I'll be sure to be aware of that as well. High GI/GL foods was difficult to learn at first because of all the variables, food combinations, overall meals, and individual impact.

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I'm glad you came back and bumped your great post.

And regarding the high GI/GL foods, remember, it's the GL of the whole meal that matters. And by meal I mean the sum total of whatever you consume at a given time. So that includes snacks & drinks throughout the day.

Sure thing!

Thanks for the tip! I'll be sure to be aware of that as well. High GI/GL foods was difficult to learn at first because of all the variables, food combinations, overall meals, and individual impact.

Don't worry about it so much. Fat & carbs, plus a few things like vinegar, salt, cinnamon slow down carb absorption. Just don't eat/drink sugary/refined carbs by themselves. And ideally, don't eat very much of them regardless.

Other than that, a few things are insulinemic without being high GI/GL such as animal proteins especially dairy. So don't have a glass of milk, ideally ever, but definately not by itself, especially not low fat milk.

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Free Bump!

I came back to print out my pictures because I lost everything in my computer a few months ago :(.

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So, I finally just finished reading your entire thread! Then I saw your signature at the bottom with your previous regimen. I take it you were on that when you were eating healthy and reacted to the tomato? Also, I see you said no more high Gl's, sugars, and Milk has cleared your acne. Was that immediate, or after months of avoiding them? And is you're acne %100 gone?

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On 4/5/2015 at 10:43 PM, Melloman said:

Melloman, on 06 Apr 2015 - 00:48, said:

So, I finally just finished reading your entire thread! Then I saw your signature at the bottom with your previous regimen. I take it you were on that when you were eating healthy and reacted to the tomato? Also, I see you said no more high Gl's, sugars, and Milk has cleared your acne. Was that immediate, or after months of avoiding them? And is you're acne %100 gone?

Hello! Great questions. Yes, that was my first regimen, and I wanted people to see it so they could see where I started out. I bought a juicer and juiced vegetables every day for over a year. It worked wonderfully, but I wasn't able to digest other foods sometimes, such as spinach and potato skins. When I stopped juicing so much, it took a while for my body to readjust. I need to make a note about that, because juicing isn't an indefinite replacement for food.

This definitely took months of experimentation. The first thing I learned about acne was actually from The Acne.org Regimen on this website. I learned that it took me almost the months to become completely clear, or for the acne to at least stop producing itself. I knew that whenever I tried something else, it would take a while for the acne to create itself, emerge, puss and then finally go away. Spots can stay hidden under the skin up to several weeks once the acne has been "triggered", so if you had milk 2-3 weeks ago and then a cyst comes, then it could very likely be from that. Patience patience patience.

I quit milk when I first started juicing, and then did my complete diet change afterwards, but wasn't thinking of yogurt and cheeses on sandwiches and what not. Once I completely got rid of those, I saw improvement in less than a month, but that was almost 5-6 months later with lots of trial and error. I ate some cake a few weeks ago... some small spots did show up, but nothing like the cysts I was having before. Stopping the soda I was drinking, as well as a few other sugar drinks (like those tall sweet tea cans), got rid of the rest of my cysts. Sugar and Milk are a terrible combination for me. 90-95 percent of your diet has to be an acne-free one with avoidance for your specific triggers (such as onions were to the man who owns AcneEinstein.com).

Sleep was the most immediate resulting thing for me actually, not food. Better sleep for me meant decent skin almost the very next morning, but it could take a few days. More sleep means less facial redness too. Just splash water on your face a couple times a day, and wipe it off with a towel every morning to get rid of the "oiliness", but always use soap if you can (which sometimes I didn't even have to do for a long period of time.) I use to have a lot of oil on my face, but not anymore.

I still get some acne if I steer away from my diet, but the spots are small and heal in a few days. I WILL make that very clear in my post above. Any acne I get now is vastly different than the 50 or so spots I use to always constantly have on my face. A cyst WILL return if I eat breads and sweets, and/or sleep very little. Since I changed my overall diet and lifestyle, and eat more vegetables, however, my skin is healthier and the acne heals much more quickly and is a lot less painful to deal with. I'm pretty much in the same boat of people where if you see a spot on their skin then it's fairly rare and not even worth mentioning.

Point in case, if you know the acne is coming from your food, then accept and allow it, and see what you can do to change it. Maybe one day when your body stabilizes, you can go back to having a treat here and there, but that depends entirely on you. Good luck :).

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Wow. Yeah, it took the girl on a video of the youtube channel you sent me, 3 months to heal as well. And she didn't even have acne. That's good.  It sucks that you still can't tolerate those foods yet.  It's been a year and a half, huh? That's disappointing that the wasn't enough time to fully heal. Hopefully in a couple more years, you'll be more tolerant. So your diet is vegan, but you're a vegetarian? I've noticed sleep is a good healer as well. I looked so much better yesterday morning! Thanks for posting your diet on my thread. The last couple of days help put me right back on track thanks to those comments. For some reason, no one ever goes into detail on their diet, ever online

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On 4/9/2015 at 11:22 PM, Melloman said:

Wow. Yeah, it took the girl on a video of the youtube channel you sent me, 3 months to heal as well. And she didn't even have acne. That's good.  It sucks that you still can't tolerate those foods yet.  It's been a year and a half, huh? That's disappointing that the wasn't enough time to fully heal. Hopefully in a couple more years, you'll be more tolerant. So your diet is vegan, but you're a vegetarian? I've noticed sleep is a good healer as well. I looked so much better yesterday morning! Thanks for posting your diet on my thread. The last couple of days help put me right back on track thanks to those comments. For some reason, no one ever goes into detail on their diet, ever online


Hey, sorry for the wait. I didn't watch any of her videos all the way through, but I am not surprised. Most people do not consider how much time things actually take... even the Acne.orf regimen took me three months before I looked clear, but six weeks was all it took for most of the acne to stop emerging. Skin shedding and healing always takes longer, and waiting to get rid of the red spots and scars acne leaves behind is probably the worst thing to look at.

The last regimen I tried (the vegetable juicing every morning) took longer than three months for sure... in fact it felt more like six months or so before my skin started showing improvement, but I stopped timing myself and just let nature take it's course. You can see the dates on all my pictures in my gallery. Yes, it's been approximately two years or so since I stopped eating tomatoes. A vegan is a vegetarian who ALSO avoids milk and eggs... they have little to nothing to do with animals. However, I do occasionally have sweets such as dark chocolate, but I don't eat them often and eat small portions when I do. These things commonly have milk and eggs in them, so that's the kind of flexibility that I allow, but I do not drink milk or eat eggs strait out anymore. Your diet must have a heavy emphasis on VEGETABLES, so that if and when you consume other things, you are not thinking about them so much.

Yes, sleep sleep sleep! And no problem about the recipes... I'm trying my best to gather recipes from other places as well, so it's taking longer than I thought. I'm thinking of starting a blog on Blogspot or Instagram, whichever comes first.

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! And no problem about the recipes! I'm trying my best to gather recipes from other places as well, so it's taking longer than I thought... I'm think of starting a blog on blog post or Instagram or something.

Yeah, I was actually going to start a topic on all the recipes I came up with. They're really good. I was going to include pictures of the finished product and instruction and all that. Since adding more veggies and a bit of fruit, my acne cleared drastically. I think my gut has been healing for the past 8 months, but the wheat kept tearing holes which didn't let me see the results. Before I followed your advice and got rid of wheat, I broke out almost immediately from Blueberries. I ate blueberries after kicking wheat, and there was little to no reaction! Of course I still breakout if I eat a lot lf bad food, but at least now I don't have to worry about cysts so much.

Tomatoes must be really bad to give you acne that easily. I know if I eat a single donut from the store, I'll get a huge cyst that lasts for a month and a half, but I can eat an entire pound cake from the same store and get little to no acne. I guess it's just one of those things.

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I suffered through long bouts of nodular and pustular acne all through my late teens and most of my twenties without realizing that milk was driving my acne problem. My dermatologist at the time said that diet had no effect on acne. I went on Accutane for 6 separate treatments. Yes, you read that right....6. I was drinking up to a 1/2 gallon of milk everyday in addition to eating cheese slices on sandwiches and also ice cream or sour cream every once in awhile. After every Accutane treatment, my face was clear for a time up to 6 months, but invariably the pimples would come back in varying degrees. When I got older, I figured out that milk was driving my acne through experimentation by eliminating milk and milk products and then seeing a dramatic decrease of acne. Essentially 98% clear just by avoiding it. I feel cheated by my doc back then. It was not pleasant going on that much Accutane. Doctors who claim diet has no effect on acne are just plain wrong and can cause damage by that belief. The research shows the inflammatory effect of milk on individuals who are sensitive to it's effects. There are people for whom diet has no effect on their acne. It is however wrong to say diet is not a factor in some people. 

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On 10/11/2015 at 3:40 PM, gladiatorman3 said:

I suffered through long bouts of nodular and pustular acne all through my late teens and most of my twenties without realizing that milk was driving my acne problem. My dermatologist at the time said that diet had no effect on acne. I went on Accutane for 6 separate treatments. Yes, you read that right....6. I was drinking up to a 1/2 gallon of milk everyday in addition to eating cheese slices on sandwiches and also ice cream or sour cream every once in awhile. After every Accutane treatment, my face was clear for a time up to 6 months, but invariably the pimples would come back in varying degrees. When I got older, I figured out that milk was driving my acne through experimentation by eliminating milk and milk products and then seeing a dramatic decrease of acne. Essentially 98% clear just by avoiding it. I feel cheated by my doc back then. It was not pleasant going on that much Accutane. Doctors who claim diet has no effect on acne are just plain wrong and can cause damage by that belief. The research shows the inflammatory effect of milk on individuals who are sensitive to it's effects. There are people for whom diet has no effect on their acne. It is however wrong to say diet is not a factor in some people. 


I am sorry to hear that... are you clear from your acne now?

I felt very cheated by my doctors and dermatologists too, who's education and practices caused them to prescribe to me only topical and oral medications with little insight. It was only when I started research myself that I found dozens of other things and could (and did) help.

"There are people for whom diet has no effect on their acne. It is however wrong to say that diet is not a factor in some people".

That is very true. Diet will always help your health and skin, make no mistake about that. Redness can go down and skin regrowth may rise...

... but in the end, please remember that it may never be enough for some people, or the right thing, to help their skin get rid of their acne. I was already doing multiple other things, such as exercising and having good sleep, I have no clue if a lazy lifestyle with JUST a healthy diet would have worked on its own. Just avoiding dairy was not enough for me; Sugary foods and deserts (without milk) also caused many pimples for me, and even THEN I'm wasn't clear. You must in addition eat good things, and that's when you'll finally see some improvement over a couple of months, which to many people may seem like too long time, and something they will probably never do.

Our skin is always affected by our diets, but for people who do not get acne, their skin may not appear to change that much. It is still a change, but all that may happen is that they will go from "glowing" to simply "averagely smooth" with some slight dryness and redness, and without one spot in their entire life. And for those who are paleo/raw/vegan/whatever who eat no junk foods or sugar and have very healthy lifestyles, they may be all over the place with their acne and extremely sensitive from the tiniest of things... such as the sugar in fruits and the starches in potatoes and rice.

Even today I'll still get pimples if I eat too much of those things and have an imbalance with my diet, but I was more than willing to walk that path because not only I am definitely far better off now then before, I have matured and changed in so many other ways. I am confident that in over the next couple of years, my health will be good enough to tolerate a cookie here and there, but in the end it's not worth reaching out to. Sweets are not the pinnacle of life, and shouldn't be fixated on. What I have come to understand is that most people are addicted to food, something that I never had to really struggle with. In that case, they need to seek help with understanding their taste buds and how the human body developed to seek those things out in the first place. Many documentaries exist with this kind of knowledge, and worth looking into.

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I used to drink so much milk as a kid and teenager.  I guess everyone has been brought up believing that it is normal to do and good for you. But after I learned milk provoked inflammatory response I eliminated milk completely for over 10 years, however it has not really reduced the severity of my acne.  Although I still eat cheese from time to time in small quantities.  I don't think I would want to ever give up high quality cheeses.  Who knows if the cheese I eat has the same if any effect.  I also wonder if all the cow milk I drank when developing perhaps changed my gene expression and primed my body to be excessively inflammatory.

Even though not drinking milk hasn't helped much with my acne, I think its healthier to do without it.  I feel better not having it and I'm still milk free to this day.  I always think to myself - would you ever see an adult dog drinking milk from a horse?

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On 1/8/2016 at 5:30 PM, beyondinfinity said:

I used to drink so much milk as a kid and teenager.  I guess everyone has been brought up believing that it is normal to do and good for you. But after I learned milk provoked inflammatory response I eliminated milk completely for over 10 years, however it has not really reduced the severity of my acne.  Although I still eat cheese from time to time in small quantities.  I don't think I would want to ever give up high quality cheeses.  Who knows if the cheese I eat has the same if any effect.  I also wonder if all the cow milk I drank when developing perhaps changed my gene expression and primed my body to be excessively inflammatory.

Even though not drinking milk hasn't helped much with my acne, I think its healthier to do without it.  I feel better not having it and I'm still milk free to this day.  I always think to myself - would you ever see an adult dog drinking milk from a horse?


I was the same with milk, and all dairy products. I loved cheese, ice cream, and yogurt. When I gave it all up, however, it wasn't as terrible as I thought. It was just awkward at first and confusing because of how the current food industry operated, and what we are told is healthy and safe to eat

Unfortunately, I must tell you that even in small quantities dairy is not good for you. This includes unpasteurized, raw special milks, not just cow's milk. You have to get rid of it all, and no focusing on wishing you could eat it. If this is difficult for you, then I recommend watching food documentations and looking into human evolution/behavior developments. You are not alone in this, so please don't feel bad, but eating these things will keep your gut inflamed and the bad bacteria well fed for months.

You can, however, look into milk based kefir and fermenting your own yogurt at home. Edited by ReneeAwen

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Thank you for the very detailed post. 

Yes there is some scientific evidence on the link between diet and acne, however even if I believe that, I have a very hard time figuring out WHICH foods break me out... Do you have any tips and tricks on how to systematically "find out" which foods are safe and which do break out (for example. trial & error)?

Also, the evidence out there regarding "acne-triggering foods" is very contradictory. For example, some studies say that people with acne can eat apples, other studies say that they cause breakouts. Should I not fully rely on these studies, and instead find out myself, which comes back to my first question above?

Lastly, as you mentioned in your post that one should leave out diary completely to a 100%, is this very important? Does the same go with e.g. bread and sugar? Why is it so important to completely leave something out?

Best regards,

M

 

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