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So I did a whole lot of blood tests the other week. every vitamin/mineral basically testable was done, all my organs etc. basically the main ones of concern were liver and kidney, I also have gluten intolerance done, my sugar levels tested, my blood pressure, all tests of STI/Ds, my thyroid 'basically etc' because there was a whole heap done.

Got the results back and everything was perfect. I mean the doctor actually laughed at me for being so concerned he said he's never seen a body in such good health before (i guess my years of eating and exercising well all throughout childhood).

Thing is HOW is this possible? I must have a hormonal imbalance (but i cant get that tested whilst im on the pill and it doesnt matter because i know I have it or I wouldnt have acne). How can I even have a hormonal imbalance if my liver, kidneys etc etc are all working perfectly? they should filter my hormones then. and not to mention my sugar/food tests all came back negative to issues, even my thyroid is great..yet dont hormonal issues stem from those types of things?

not to mention i have some very obvious issues like I constantly need to sleep, every yesterday every time i laid down I just fell asleep, I never have energy or motivation. The doc put that down to depression but I'm still a very positive and hopeful person and try to relax as much as possible.

i guess im annoyed because how can I still have acne then?

and such hormonal acne, no diet change or lifestyle aided it..and if my body is in such good shape how can it still be able to produce acne? even all my vitamins are perfectly level.

yet I still have a TON of bumps all over my face and bigger pimples here and there even down my neck, every pore is large and clogged.

guess im very frustrated having no idea what to do next if i have no 'problems' to address..except for acne but no problems that can point to it. I dont get hormonal in terms of moods etc I dont have digestive issues I sleep very well. I could go on haha.

does anyone have any opinions to share for my acne mystery? if i have such hormonal acne..shouldnt I have an issue with sugar or an issue with my liver or kidneys or thyroid?

I think this week before my period (before my face goes extreme) I might go on a juice fast and just drink fruit and veggie juice made from home just to see what happens even though I know food doesnt seem to affect my body like it does others >.<

so out of ideas it's insane

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My blood results always come back perfect as well. Liver/kidneys, blood lipids, thyroid, blood glucose, etc all perfect. I still have ridiculously high testosterone though and don't know why. I am a male, but my results are WAY above reference ranges, and I'm 27 so it's odd that I have higher testosterone levels than a 16 y/o. So I guess I'm saying, you could still have some hormone imbalances regardless of other systems operating perfectly.

I know how frustrating this is. I've been trying various "acne diets", and holistic healing stuff very strictly for 5 years, and still can't figure this shit out. I've done fasts like you are considering, and it didn't help. I've done low-carb, eliminated every food known to man, low-fat, candida diet, carp-loads of probiotcs, etc etc. Nothing

The only way I can get my skin to be almost clear is to lose weight. However, as soon as my weight eventually balances out I start breaking out again. Seeing as how I can;t just lose weight indefinitely, I'm kind of screwed. I wish you the best though.

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Did you go to a conventional medical doctor or a naturopathic physician?

I'm tired a lot too and tend to run anemic. Were you tested for that? Your adrenals could be stressed from the acne and overall situation, but also not show up on the blood tests because it depends when you had blood drawn (what time during the month, during the day, etc). Some doctors claim that only saliva hormone panels are reliable, not blood tests, click the "Tests" tab below on this site: http://www.completenutritionandwellness.com/testing-services/hormone-panels/

My ND told me when you have acne, the skin has receptors that are SENSITIVE to androgens (like testosterone). This means that your blood results will show normal hormone levels, but your skin is sensitive to the hormones.

Personally, I had barely any results following a naturopathic protocol (different herbs, vitamins, progesterone, detoxification, elimination diets), and only saw dramatic improvement during my accutane course.

Have you tried eliminating dairy, gluten, soy, coffee, and reducing sugar? Overall these help me maintain clear skin, but they didn't help me to get rid of acne, unfortunately.

Don't give up hope. See another physician, one who works in functional medicine or naturopathic medicine. I believe you will find an answer, and have you seen a dermatologist as well?

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My blood results always come back perfect as well. Liver/kidneys, blood lipids, thyroid, blood glucose, etc all perfect. I still have ridiculously high testosterone though and don't know why. I am a male, but my results are WAY above reference ranges, and I'm 27 so it's odd that I have higher testosterone levels than a 16 y/o. So I guess I'm saying, you could still have some hormone imbalances regardless of other systems operating perfectly.

I know how frustrating this is. I've been trying various "acne diets", and holistic healing stuff very strictly for 5 years, and still can't figure this shit out. I've done fasts like you are considering, and it didn't help. I've done low-carb, eliminated every food known to man, low-fat, candida diet, carp-loads of probiotcs, etc etc. Nothing

The only way I can get my skin to be almost clear is to lose weight. However, as soon as my weight eventually balances out I start breaking out again. Seeing as how I can;t just lose weight indefinitely, I'm kind of screwed. I wish you the best though.

hm. sigh.

I'm a female and my acne appeared 2 years ago out of the blue. literally within 2 weeks and things just got worse (i'm nearly 21). I went on a strong birth control though which i'm still on but still have acne the only thing that cleared me was spiro and antiandrogen but i went off it knowing i couldnt rely on it forever and need to figure out a way to get clear without it knowing i cant stay on the pill forever either.

my diet in general is the 'healthy' promoted one of these boards, the typical no processed food, sugars, junk, gluten etc, that never helped. exercise every day and good sleep, lots of sun and water never helped either. went through a phase of vitamins which never helped. dont use chemicals etc never helped basically nothing i have done (which is a lot! minus unnatural stuff) has never helped.

it confuses me because we constantly read about lifestyle and food that is suppose to help our bodies, hormones alone..diet and exercise, sleep and sun/water is 'suppose' to help our hormones level out but never has it helped me (and you I assume). It's really hard to believe a lot sadly just based on the claims and how we are all human so if those lifestyle changes are suppose to help then why it isnt doesnt make sense.

I cant afford to lose more weight myself. my acne gets worse around my period but its always there. really sucks :/ honestly run out of answers, the only time i've been clear recently was drinking alcohol (vodka) makes no sense why. but obviously I wont just do that to get clear >.<

Did you go to a conventional medical doctor or a naturopathic physician?

I'm tired a lot too and tend to run anemic. Were you tested for that? Your adrenals could be stressed from the acne and overall situation, but also not show up on the blood tests because it depends when you had blood drawn (what time during the month, during the day, etc). Some doctors claim that only saliva hormone panels are reliable, not blood tests, click the "Tests" tab below on this site: http://www.completen...hormone-panels/

My ND told me when you have acne, the skin has receptors that are SENSITIVE to androgens (like testosterone). This means that your blood results will show normal hormone levels, but your skin is sensitive to the hormones.

Personally, I had barely any results following a naturopathic protocol (different herbs, vitamins, progesterone, detoxification, elimination diets), and only saw dramatic improvement during my accutane course.

Have you tried eliminating dairy, gluten, soy, coffee, and reducing sugar? Overall these help me maintain clear skin, but they didn't help me to get rid of acne, unfortunately.

Don't give up hope. See another physician, one who works in functional medicine or naturopathic medicine. I believe you will find an answer, and have you seen a dermatologist as well?

i have tried all the diet 'ways' for a few years and even as a kid i never consumed sugary foods or drinks or junk. I also havent had dairy for years and dont drink coffee etc. I have been to a naturopath, they just gave me herbs that didnt help and pills i didnt need. stuck to it for a bit but nothing helped so i saved my money. i'll never go to a derm though, too much money and i know they'll just give me chemical topicals and anti-biotics and thats not the route i want to go because it's just damaging things further.

as my acne happened so fast I assume that was almost like a switch in my body in which my skin just started to get sensitive to androgens...my identical twin does not have acne. so i of course assumed it was something I personally did different in life to cause that. dont know what. but i assumed after a few years of being as healthy as possible with diet and lifestyle that I could revert my skin back to the way it was. where it wasnt sensitive to androgens - like my identical twin, but have had no avail.

I dont really think I should do hormone tests whilst on the pill because i dont think it would be too reliable and i'm already on a high estrogen pill.. its a mystery if i can be on this pill and still have such high testosterone to cause crazy androgens..but in general i guess my frustration lays in my efforts over years to get my body to even out itself but its simply not doing so. surely with all this lifestyle and change one can get their testosterone to level out itself? i mean thats a silly question because it didnt work for myself haha but i dunno im very confused with what to do next.

i dont really have the money for more and more tests when they all keep coming back great. doctors really wont let me take them anymore, i've been to a few :/

and a few different specialists.

really dont know how many more years I can take of this though, suppose to be at my prime yet I can rarely do what I want and feel how I want based on this acne. I have a very positive few on it since it broke me emotionally a year ago, i know to keep positive. its just hard to look at how clear my identical twin is and wonder whats up with me to cause this androgen sensitivity. thats the question i wish could be answered. just plain and simple how do you even get sensitive to androgens? I never had acne through puberty, I got it around 18-19 in a matter of a few weeks and had it ever since :0

thanks for everyones opinions, I appreciate the input, suggestions and general advice :)

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The problem is not the organs but low immune system I think. You can research on thymus gland, adernal gland etc. One thing that is helping me is hardcore yoga headstand, shoulder stand etc. You can you tube baba ramdev yoga for skin disease. In fact headstand yoga stimulates the glands and good for the skin. Juice fasting is a temporary solution and you will loose even further weight.

Edited by Binga

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So I did a whole lot of blood tests the other week. every vitamin/mineral basically testable was done, all my organs etc. basically the main ones of concern were liver and kidney, I also have gluten intolerance done, my sugar levels tested, my blood pressure, all tests of STI/Ds, my thyroid 'basically etc' because there was a whole heap done.

Got the results back and everything was perfect. I mean the doctor actually laughed at me for being so concerned he said he's never seen a body in such good health before (i guess my years of eating and exercising well all throughout childhood).

Thing is HOW is this possible? I must have a hormonal imbalance (but i cant get that tested whilst im on the pill and it doesnt matter because i know I have it or I wouldnt have acne). How can I even have a hormonal imbalance if my liver, kidneys etc etc are all working perfectly? they should filter my hormones then. and not to mention my sugar/food tests all came back negative to issues, even my thyroid is great..yet dont hormonal issues stem from those types of things?

not to mention i have some very obvious issues like I constantly need to sleep, every yesterday every time i laid down I just fell asleep, I never have energy or motivation. The doc put that down to depression but I'm still a very positive and hopeful person and try to relax as much as possible.

i guess im annoyed because how can I still have acne then?

and such hormonal acne, no diet change or lifestyle aided it..and if my body is in such good shape how can it still be able to produce acne? even all my vitamins are perfectly level.

yet I still have a TON of bumps all over my face and bigger pimples here and there even down my neck, every pore is large and clogged.

guess im very frustrated having no idea what to do next if i have no 'problems' to address..except for acne but no problems that can point to it. I dont get hormonal in terms of moods etc I dont have digestive issues I sleep very well. I could go on haha.

does anyone have any opinions to share for my acne mystery? if i have such hormonal acne..shouldnt I have an issue with sugar or an issue with my liver or kidneys or thyroid?

I think this week before my period (before my face goes extreme) I might go on a juice fast and just drink fruit and veggie juice made from home just to see what happens even though I know food doesnt seem to affect my body like it does others >.<

so out of ideas it's insane

There have been some studies done showing that some people have a sensitivity to their own levels of androgens. They marked it down as genetic, which in medical terminology, can also mean "we don't really know the cause." There may be something else going on causing that sensitivity, but the fact is we simply don't know why one person would be sensitive to a normal level of androgens/testosterone.

Also, it appears you didn't have an actual hormones test anyway? I think the most useful one would be testing your level of free testosterone. Honestly, if you are really concerned about finding a test that will "prove" that you have hormonal acne, personally I would not put my hopes on that. But if that's a really big deal to you, you're going to have to buckle down and quit the pill and then take a hormones test 6 months after the pill so your hormones are completely back to their pre-pill state tongue.png

I would take a look at this site: http://www.hormonehe...om/articles.htm

Run by Dr. Redmond, a big hormone doctor in NY. It's just really good reading about hormones and the relation to acne that you don't see from most doctors.

And this is my anecdotal experience:

- Anti-androgens saved my face from acne

- A really high dose of probiotics seems to have cleared up my constant fatigue. I really do know what you mean when you say you feel like napping all the time. After being on a 50 billion, 10 strain probiotic for 3 weeks, I'm not jumping out of bed by any means, but I can't sleep past 9 anymore even on a weekend, and I can't nap during the day even when I try. I have done consistent probiotics before but I have never taken that high of a potency.

Case in point it is 7:30am Sunday on the west coast, and I am fully awake...

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1) get a copy of the results. And in some cases, just because the results are in the 'normal' range, doesn't mean they are optimal. Thyroid issues are notoriously under diagnosed, for example.

2). You don't necessarily have any hormone imbalance or other serious impairment. That seems to be a common belief that we are weak in some way. There may be some benefit to being prone to hyper keratinization that we don't see in today's society. For example people prone to developing diabetes are that way because they are adapted to survive famine.

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1) get a copy of the results. And in some cases, just because the results are in the 'normal' range, doesn't mean they are optimal. Thyroid issues are notoriously under diagnosed, for example.

2). You don't necessarily have any hormone imbalance or other serious impairment. That seems to be a common belief that we are weak in some way. There may be some benefit to being prone to hyper keratinization that we don't see in today's society. For example people prone to developing diabetes are that way because they are adapted to survive famine.

To OP in relation to alternativista's #1^: Yes, you can definitely have thyroid side effects with thyroid levels in range. I don't want to start you down the black hole of thyroid issues, but if you do think thyroid is a concern, http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ is a great resource for subclinical thyroid problems.

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I'm also undergoing a law of diminishing returns when it comes to diet. I have a yellow coating on my tongue + dandruff and thought there would be a clear connection between that and my acne. Alas, a tongue swab and blood tests showed nothing abnormal either. Both my grandparents, my father and my aunt have diabetes so maybe there's something there. I do have abnormally cold hands which is one of the "long list" of Thyroid problems.

What I'm trying to say is, I think with both of us it may require some out of the box thinking to find out what's wrong...

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I'm sorry you didn't find anything to help you from your tests. But if nothing else, you say that your healthy diet and exercise are making your body awesome! The problem of acne hasn't been figured out yet, but you can at least tell that the other good things you are doing are helping you. Don't give up! I believe you will find your answer.

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