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I would recommend treating the acne before treating your scarring because scar treatments may exacerbate acne. Everyone responds to acne treatments differently. I had severe cystic acne which only responded to Accutane. Start with over-the-counter, if that doesn't work try prescription meds.

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My acne scarring specialist (Julie at Bio2 clinic in Leamington - she has also treated Maya and Marcsheep) feels that extensive use of BP throughout her youth has caused permanent changes in her skin; she seems to feel that it has impaired her healing capacities.

I didn't pursue her thoughts on this, as I haven't ever used BP for lengthy periods, but I will ask her for more information at my next appointment.

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My acne scarring specialist (Julie at Bio2 clinic in Leamington - she has also treated Maya and Marcsheep) feels that extensive use of BP throughout her youth has caused permanent changes in her skin; she seems to feel that it has impaired her healing capacities.

I didn't pursue her thoughts on this, as I haven't ever used BP for lengthy periods, but I will ask her for more information at my next appointment.

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I disagree that Benzoyl Peroxide dangerous. Here is some brief information about Benzoyl Peroxide from cosmeticscop.com:

benzoyl peroxide. Considered the most effective over-the-counter choice for a topical antibacterial agent in the treatment of blemishes (Source: Skin Pharmacology and Applied Skin Physiology, September-October 2000, pages 292–296). The amount of research demonstrating the effectiveness of benzoyl peroxide is exhaustive and conclusive (Source: Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology, November 1999, pages 710–716). Among benzoyl peroxide's attributes is its ability to penetrate into the hair follicle to reach the bacteria that are causing the problem, and then killing themâ€â€with a low risk of irritation. It also doesn't pose the problem of bacterial resistance that some prescription topical antibacterials (antibiotics) do (Source: Dermatology, 1998, volume 196, issue 1, pages 119–125). Benzoyl peroxide solutions range in strength from 2.5% to 10%. It is best to start with less-potent concentrations, because a 2.5% benzoyl peroxide product is much less irritating than a 5% or 10% concentration, and it can be just as effective. The necessary concentration completely depends on how stubborn the strain of bacteria in your pores happens to be.

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My acne scarring specialist (Julie at Bio2 clinic in Leamington - she has also treated Maya and Marcsheep) feels that extensive use of BP throughout her youth has caused permanent changes in her skin; she seems to feel that it has impaired her healing capacities.

I didn't pursue her thoughts on this, as I haven't ever used BP for lengthy periods, but I will ask her for more information at my next appointment.

BP is a dangerous chemical. I have found this out. All acne chemicals are very harsh and dry out the skin whilst causing other terrible side effects. That is why FDA changed the status of BP from "safe" to "uncertain".

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Thanks for the reply. Actually I should say CLOGGED pores instead of blackheads. I just dunno what to do about that, they're all over my face, so I just apply sulphur all over them, is that no good?

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(Acne Myth) - Spot treatment works.

Unfortunately, this just isn’t true. For more than 30 years, over-the-counter products have been making the claim that a dab of medicine directly on the pimple will clear up acne. Since blemishes take 2–3 weeks to develop, you’re treating an old symptom of the problem rather than the problem itself. The best way to treat acne is to stop the blemishes from developing in the first place  which means treating the whole face or area every day, even when you don’t have blemishes.

Dr. Kathy Fields and Dr. Katie Rodan

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(Acne Myth) - Spot treatment works.

Unfortunately, this just isn’t true. For more than 30 years, over-the-counter products have been making the claim that a dab of medicine directly on the pimple will clear up acne. Since blemishes take 2–3 weeks to develop, you’re treating an old symptom of the problem rather than the problem itself. The best way to treat acne is to stop the blemishes from developing in the first place  which means treating the whole face or area every day, even when you don’t have blemishes.

Dr. Kathy Fields and Dr. Katie Rodan

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MelbourneBloke, no offense but you have no idea what you're talking about. I hope nobody listens to the advice you keep giving to people, because it's totally based on a lack of any education about medicine or science. There are so many errors in logic it's not even worth debating. I don't want to deride you or be mean, I just call em as I see em. Civilly yours, oldguy

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MelbourneBloke, no offense but you have no idea what you're talking about. I hope nobody listens to the advice you keep giving to people, because it's totally based on a lack of any education about medicine or science. There are so many errors in logic it's not even worth debating. I don't want to deride you or be mean, I just call em as I see em. Civilly yours, oldguy

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MelbourneBloke.

I know you are trying to help people but I think you are giving advice that could increase peoples risk of scarring.

The best way to avoid scarring is to prevent acne lesions and comedones in the first place - FACT.

the only sure method of preventing or limiting the extent of scars is to treat acne early in its course, and as long as necessary. The more that inflammation can be prevented or moderated, the more likely it is that scars can be prevented.

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At your age do you apply BP to the whole face? Yes, once or twice a day

Do you get an occassional zits. Yes

How do you treat it? By applying Neutrogena blemish wand on top of the aforementioned BP.

I don't know why you pasted more jibber jabber - All highly slanted and going against established medical science to prove some strange point. You seem like a disgruntled swift boat veteran or something. Ciao

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MelbourneBloke.

I know you are trying to help people but I think you are giving advice that could increase peoples risk of scarring.

The best way to avoid scarring is to prevent acne lesions and comedones in the first place - FACT.

the only sure method of preventing or limiting the extent of scars is to treat acne early in its course, and as long as necessary. The more that inflammation can be prevented or moderated, the more likely it is that scars can be prevented.

http://www.skincarephysicians.com/acnenet/scarring.html

How one chooses to prevent acne lesions forming is something that varies from person to person and some experimentation is usually required. Having used a whole variety of meds in my time I have found that bp works best for me. This is absolutely not the case for everyone...it could be accutane, salicylic acid, sulphur, antibiotics, topical retinoids, b5, carb reducing diets, avoiding certain cosmetics or skincare ingredients, smoothbeam laser etc etc etc.

Waiting until a lesion forms is unwise because scarring occurs because of the bodies inflammatory response to infection.

In the simplest terms, scars form at the site of an injury to tissue. They are the visible reminders of injury and tissue repair. In the case of acne, the injury is caused by the body’s inflammatory response to sebum, bacteria and dead cells in the plugged sebaceous follicle. Two types of true scars exist, as discussed later: (1) depressed areas such as ice-pick scars, and (2) raised thickened tissue such as keloids.

When tissue suffers an injury, the body rushes its repair kit to the injury site. Among the elements of the repair kit are white blood cells and an array of inflammatory molecules that have the task of repairing tissue and fighting infection. However, when their job is done they may leave a somewhat messy repair site in the form of fibrous scar tissue, or eroded tissue.

White blood cells and inflammatory molecules may remain at the site of an active acne lesion for days or even weeks. In people who are susceptible to scarring, the result may be an acne scar.

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Benzoyl Peroxide Cautions: Benzoyl peroxide (BP) generates free radicals in the skin. Its effect is similar to unprotected sun exposure. The redness of the skin (erythema), caused by sun exposure and BP, is the result of free radicals (oxidative stress) upon the skin. Repeated sun exposure or BP use generates free radicals that damage the skin's structure and cellular DNA, resulting in premature aging of the skin. The extent of the damage and aging from BP is determined by the concentration of BP, the frequency of application and the duration of its use.

Because BP generates free radicals it interferes with and slows the healing process. The red and brown marks that are a part of the acne healing process may last weeks longer when BP is a regular part of the daily regimen.

BP has been linked to cancer for a number of years and many research journal entries state "benzoyl peroxide is a free radical-generating skin tumor promoting agent." Performing a word search of the words "benzoyl peroxide cancer" in PubMed in the National Library of Medicine produces 102 articles from medical publications dealing with research aspects of BP and cancer. About two-thirds of the research supports linkage between BP and skin cancer.

"In 1995 the FDA changed benzoyl peroxide from a Category I (safe) to a Category III (safety is uncertain) ingredient and stated this action (56 FR 37622) was based on new information that raised a safety concern regarding benzoyl peroxide as a tumor promoter in mice..." Additionally the FDA charged manufacturers with the responsibility of providing this information to consumers so they could make educated decisions. A more complete FDA statement is at the bottom of this page, for your reference.

Use of benzoyl peroxide to control or maintain the control of acne may involve side effects and risks that should be considered as you make decisions on acne treatment.

FDA / Benzoyl Peroxide Action: February 17, 1995

Food and Drug Administration (FDA) / Department of Health and Human Services

"Topical Drug Products Containing Benzoyl Peroxide: Required Labeling"

"The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is proposing additional labeling (warning and directions) for all topically-applied acne treatment drug products containing benzoyl peroxide. The warning advises consumers to avoid unnecessary sun exposure and to use a sunscreen when using a benzoyl peroxide product to treat acne..."

"The agency classified benzoyl peroxide from its previous status Category I to Category III status. This action (56 FR 37622) was based on new information that raised a safety concern regarding benzoyl peroxide as a tumor promoter in mice and a study that reported that benzoyl peroxide has tumor initiation potential."

"FDA evaluated these data and information and determined that the studies show that benzoyl peroxide is a skin tumor promoter in more than one strain of mice as well as in hamsters. To date, topical studies (which have shown only tumor promotion) have been of short duration (about 52 weeks). Although animal data and human epidemiology data are available, the agency has determined that further studies are necessary to adequately assess the tumorigenic potential of benzoyl peroxide. These studies are currently being conducted. The agency acknowledges that it may take several years for these studies to be completed and analyzed, and for the final determination to be made on benzoyl peroxide's safety."

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CANCER

In some animal studies, benzoyl peroxide increased the risk of tumor growth. But, there is no evidence that it is a problem for humans.

DISCONTINUING MEDICATION

Topical medications stop new pimples from forming, but do not work for the pimples you already have. So, it takes weeks to months for acne to respond to medication. Do not give up on topical medication too soon. Acne on the back may take longer to respond than acne on the face.

http://www.healthcentral.com/mhc/top/001877.cfm

Dude, if you're that afraid of getting cancer I suggest you never go outdoors, since sunlight and air pollution cause cancer also. And turn off the computer (Please?) - computer monitors give off radiation and RADIATION CAUSES CANCER. And if you're a hairless mouse, you might as well just kill yourself right now.

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CANCER

In some animal studies, benzoyl peroxide increased the risk of tumor growth. But, there is no evidence that it is a problem for humans.

DISCONTINUING MEDICATION

Topical medications stop new pimples from forming, but do not work for the pimples you already have. So, it takes weeks to months for acne to respond to medication. Do not give up on topical medication too soon. Acne on the back may take longer to respond than acne on the face.

http://www.healthcentral.com/mhc/top/001877.cfm

Dude, if you're that afraid of getting cancer I suggest you never go outdoors, since sunlight and air pollution cause cancer also. And turn off the computer (Please?) - computer monitors give off radiation and RADIATION CAUSES CANCER. And if you're a hairless mouse, you might as well just kill yourself right now.

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That's exactly what I did before I had pimples coming. However my friend later persuaded me to use some kinda facial wash to get rid of the dirt (like you do for hands/body).

I dunno what's the cause of my pimples really

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Just because Benzoyl Peroxide doesn't work for someone doesn't mean that it won't work for everyone. Personally, I think that Benzoyl Peroxide is very effective for some cases of acne. Each person should do research to determine if they wish to use a product or not. When considering to use or not to use a medication it's a good idea to read medical journals instead of pseudo-science. Just my thoughts.

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Just because Benzoyl Peroxide doesn't work for someone doesn't mean that it won't work for everyone. Personally, I think that Benzoyl Peroxide is very effective for some cases of acne. Each person should do research to determine if they wish to use a product or not. When considering to use or not to use a medication it's a good idea to read medical journals instead of pseudo-science. Just my thoughts.

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BP has to be bad because it is a chemical not a natural substance.

I have give up using medications. They are all bad.

Shaving is also bad. It irritates my skin and I get zits in the areas where I shave.

We men shave just to please women and/or society.

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