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Hey Everyone.

I know you guys are like me. Anxious about how ur face and body look like with acne. Sad when other people notice you have acne. Annoyed at the whole thing. I have been completely clear and had completely severe acne all in the same year. Its horrible. People look at you differently, react differently, and you feel different. And it angers me and frustrates me and kills me a little inside.

I think I'm like everyone else. Annoyed, fed up, and waiting for the true answer to all this mess. I've never studied something so intently. I know every theory of acne ever invented.

1) Vitamin deficiency

2) Hormone problem

3) overactive oil glands

4) WHole body inflammation

5) Liver clogging

6) kidney clogging

7) bad lymphativc system

8) Bad digestion

9) Candida

10) and everything else you can possibly imagine in the world

I hope we al lsomeday find our cure. Until then I will be drowning in benzoyl peroxide..... which cures my acne to 95%. But still... this is not a forever solution. WTF world. Why does this happen?

If anybody would like to rant with me, just leave a response. i feel your pain. We are in this together, looking for the forever cure to a problem that has decided to show itself on our faces ( and bodies).

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I know one theory that you might not have considered.

It is not popular, however, and you may have heard about it before and dismissed it as nonsense.

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I know one theory that you might not have considered.

It is not popular, however, and you may have heard about it before and dismissed it as nonsense.

it's putting your own piss on your face, isn't it?

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I know one theory that you might not have considered.

It is not popular, however, and you may have heard about it before and dismissed it as nonsense.

it's putting your own piss on your face, isn't it?

It is not my friend, lol. Admittedly once upon a time I tried this method for about a week. It did not go well.

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I know one theory that you might not have considered.

It is not popular, however, and you may have heard about it before and dismissed it as nonsense.

it's putting your own piss on your face, isn't it?

It is not my friend, lol. Admittedly once upon a time I tried this method for about a week. It did not go well.

haha okay good. what's the method then?

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haha okay good. what's the method then?

It's a method that requires lots of reading, lots of patience and 1-2 hours a day applying these methods to how you live your life. It is a method that changes your entire outlook to the way you live your life and the way you interact with yourself and other people. It is not for the faint-hearted, but it is not hard or difficult by any means. The problem with this method is that if you are not 100% determined it will fail completely. Thus I will only attempt to share these methods with persons willing to dedicate the time and effort to themselves and to method with 100% determination. If you ask yourself the question "am I (name) capable of dedicating 100% of myself and my time to change my life?" and the answer is a confident and heartfelt yes I will then send you a PM or email with some possible first steps for yourself to undertake. :)

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hmm. maybe I am not being concise. My apologies. It is not a singular text that can be read that magically cures your ailments. However this method does include reading many different texts and books concerning varying subjects and ideologies. I will send you a PM.

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Reading cures acne? Tell Jane Austen I want my money back.

I guess it just improves your outlook on things. I do think, though, that a lot of it has to come from within yourself and some people just don't gain that sort of self-confidence from reading. I read The Secret and a bunch of other things years ago but the confidence had to come from me when I was ready.

Accutane also helped. :lol:

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I'll definitely concede that reading makes me happy. I'm a fiction girl, I like to get lost in a story. It doesn't do a thing for my confidence but as I'm sure you can tell I've got that in spades. *team ridiculous RAH* cheer.gif

I've been curious about the new age philosophy section of the bookstore but I don't want to put money into it because my own is working for me. And ya know...cats + curiosity = bad new.

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(apologies for the gratuitous smiley usage, it's just so cute*though I probably only think so because I stand like this often)

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I'll definitely concede that reading makes me happy. I'm a fiction girl, I like to get lost in a story. It doesn't do a thing for my confidence but as I'm sure you can tell I've got that in spades. *team ridiculous RAH* cheer.gif

I've been curious about the new age philosophy section of the bookstore but I don't want to put money into it because my own is working for me. And ya know...cats + curiosity = bad new.

wiggle.gif

(apologies for the gratuitous smiley usage, it's just so cute*though I probably only think so because I stand like this often)

I LIVE in my books. :D It perplexes me when people say that they don't read! I always go through a brief period of mourning when I finish a novel, grieving the "death" of characters I've fallen in love with... :lol:

It's good to keep yourself mentally engaged, in any case, regardless of what you prefer to do. It helps to break the fixation on your skin. Life is so much bigger and brighter and wider than a skin affliction. It takes a while to really learn it but there it is.

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Accutane also helped. lol.gif

I can't be bothered to read, give me the pills! :D

I do think it's right about having a good state of mind though and there's plenty of reading material out there. I'm going to write a book, I could essentially just list everything which is opposite to what I've done for 13 years, I'll make a fortune because I bet it works. ;)

If we get to a point where we've tried however many things and don't quite get the results we would like, all we can really do is to try and learn to be happier with who we are. Personally, I struggle to see beyond what's on the outside because I don't have anyone around me I can express what's on the inside to. There's probably a decent guy under my stupidly shit skin, but I'm yet to get to know him. I guess the trick is to just look at my ski, whatever condition it may be in and think, 'Oh well, it doesn't actually change who I am'. Perhaps saying it is easier than learning and believing it, but I suppose that's what we all have to do.

I recently spoke to someone who really inspires me, an actress by the name of Amy Walker. She's full of confidence and understanding for others, beautiful on the outside because she radiates what's on the inside. She told me that a great way to be is to shine for other people and do the best you can for them because that is what they see and that is what they use to form a perception of you. It makes perfect sense to me and she carries it off with ease, although I guess that was my perception because she assured me that she had to learn how, which I guess illustrates the point she was making.

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Hey Everyone.

I know you guys are like me. Anxious about how ur face and body look like with acne. Sad when other people notice you have acne. Annoyed at the whole thing. I have been completely clear and had completely severe acne all in the same year. Its horrible. People look at you differently, react differently, and you feel different. And it angers me and frustrates me and kills me a little inside.

I think I'm like everyone else. Annoyed, fed up, and waiting for the true answer to all this mess. I've never studied something so intently. I know every theory of acne ever invented.

1) Vitamin deficiency

2) Hormone problem

3) overactive oil glands

4) WHole body inflammation

5) Liver clogging

6) kidney clogging

7) bad lymphativc system

8) Bad digestion

9) Candida

10) and everything else you can possibly imagine in the world

I hope we al lsomeday find our cure. Until then I will be drowning in benzoyl peroxide..... which cures my acne to 95%. But still... this is not a forever solution. WTF world. Why does this happen?

If anybody would like to rant with me, just leave a response. i feel your pain. We are in this together, looking for the forever cure to a problem that has decided to show itself on our faces ( and bodies).

I'm no expert or even knowledgeable but these won't kill you so let me know...

1. Have you had a food allergy test or tried an elimination diet separately cutting out casein/dairy, gluten, soya, wheat, whey etc (including the foods that may contain those hidden ingredients)?

2. Have you tried taking omega 3 6 9s with high level 3 low level 6?

3. Do you wash your towels, bed sheets and pillow cases regularly with a fragrance free detergent?

4. Have you checked whether any of your skin/hair care products contain comodegenic ingredients?

5. Do you take probiotics?

Again, I'm no expert, but it wouldn't hurt to try

Edited by Callum.

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I know one theory that you might not have considered.

It is not popular, however, and you may have heard about it before and dismissed it as nonsense.

it's putting your own piss on your face, isn't it?

It is not my friend, lol. Admittedly once upon a time I tried this method for about a week. It did not go well.

you didn't try it long enough. it takes exactly two weeks to see results.

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Reading cures acne? Tell Jane Austen I want my money back.

I guess it just improves your outlook on things. I do think, though, that a lot of it has to come from within yourself and some people just don't gain that sort of self-confidence from reading. I read The Secret and a bunch of other things years ago but the confidence had to come from me when I was ready.

Accutane also helped. lol.gif

Aww, chiming in on all this reading love. I'm not a big fan of the self-help genre at all (I think way too much of it condones wishful thinking), but one of my favourite self-help books is Gloria Steinem's Revolution From Within. I think I read that book when I was about fifteen or sixteen, long before I even understood what feminism was, and it was just such a formative text for me especially during a rather dark time in my life.

I am totally going to own up to my nerdiness here and just say that reading fanfic (fandom doesn't really matter so long as its well written) makes me feel better. It's definitely a very self-indulgent genre, but with far less of the heteronormativity that chick lit (which I mostly hate) fosters. Most of my reading material depresses me, but that's because I read a lot of dense philosophical stuff that just confirms how shitty the world is and how fucked we all are.

...er, more on topic on the other hand: yes, acne sucks. I can barely even rage about it though, I'm too busy being sad and wondering when if I'm ever going to get my life back~ :(

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...er, more on topic on the other hand: yes, acne sucks. I can barely even rage about it though, I'm too busy being sad and wondering when if I'm ever going to get my life back~ sad.png

There was a topic a while ago and I think the question asked was whether or not we get angry as a result of having acne. Even after all this time, I still haven't got a handle on my feelings about it, but I know that anger isn't one of them. I'm glad about that though because I would guess we're more likely to take anger out on other things or other people and that's not fair. I reckon you're right and that sadness is the overriding emotion and I can certainly relate to wondering when it will end. Sadness is pretty lonely, people don't always notice it. If we're angry, we become bolder or louder and it gets attention. But sadness goes the opposite way, I find, and we're more likely to withdraw. That's what really gets me because it's, well, sad that such things cause people to recoil and perhaps not shine to their full potential.

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There was a topic a while ago and I think the question asked was whether or not we get angry as a result of having acne. Even after all this time, I still haven't got a handle on my feelings about it, but I know that anger isn't one of them. I'm glad about that though because I would guess we're more likely to take anger out on other things or other people and that's not fair. I reckon you're right and that sadness is the overriding emotion and I can certainly relate to wondering when it will end. Sadness is pretty lonely, people don't always notice it. If we're angry, we become bolder or louder and it gets attention. But sadness goes the opposite way, I find, and we're more likely to withdraw. That's what really gets me because it's, well, sad that such things cause people to recoil and perhaps not shine to their full potential.

I can't say that I'm not angry about my acne at all. I am, but it's not a very visceral type of anger - just a very strong bitterness over the fact that I'm going to lose so much of myself (both physically and psychologically) to this condition.

Agreed that sadness is very lonely/isolating/withdrawal-inducing. I'm not sure whether I'd rather be more sad or more angry, honestly. Anger can be a fairly productive emotion insofar as it sometimes motivates a person to take action, but as you pointed out, it can also be very destructive. On the other hand, there's not much you can really "use" your anger for w/r/t acne unless you wanted to campaign for, I don't know, ~acne rights~ or something like that. All things considered though, I think anger implies a certain level of self-esteem. You not only recognize that some injustice has been "committed" against you, but that because it ought not have, you ought to have some recourse to fighting back, whereas sadness can just paralyze you and make you give up completely.

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"If literature isn't everything, it's not worth a single hour of someone's trouble."

lol Sartre really makes me giggle

"Generosity is nothing else than a craze to possess. All which I abandon, all which I give, I enjoy in a higher manner through the fact that I give it away. To give is to enjoy possessively the object which one gives."

PS- This is a thread that really knows how to branch out ;)

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Any 'self help book' written by an author whom charges and mass produces and commercialises their works is doing the entire notion of self help a monstrous injustice.

Most of the ideologies contained in these books are recycled and recycled and recycled from major western philosophy written works which first started appearing around 600BC - 200BC

All these commercial books claiming too pertain amazing secrets of personal success and personal empowerment for individuals and make your dreams come true cr*p makes my stomach churn!! It is absolute taking complete advantage of peoples ignorance and fear of the unknown. What is worse is that most authors do a horrible job at recycling and presenting this information. Trying to pack it all into a single book or movie Oh no no no.

Argg, it would be akin to me watering down a glass of lemonade to the point of barely being able to taste it, I then sell this to people for much more than it's worth just because it's a hot day and everyone is really really thirsty and i'm a greed stricken individual completely consumed by my own EGOl! Even after this People are thankful because even a little is enough to apparently quench their thirst but little do they know it won't last long because it's been diluted far too much to be effective!

Even WORSE I get this lemonade from my massive river of lemonade which flows long and wide but luckily for me most people don't know where this river resides!

Sadly this is the reason most people today see the very notion of self help ludicrous, and see it as an unrealistic method for achieving anything at all. sad.png

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Any 'self help book' written by an author whom charges and mass produces and commercialises their works is doing the entire notion of self help a monstrous injustice.

Most of the ideologies contained in these books are recycled and recycled and recycled from major western philosophy written works which first started appearing around 600BC - 200BC

All these commercial books claiming too pertain amazing secrets of personal success and personal empowerment for individuals and make your dreams come true cr*p makes my stomach churn!! It is absolute taking complete advantage of peoples ignorance and fear of the unknown. What is worse is that most authors do a horrible job at recycling and presenting this information. Trying to pack it all into a single book or movie Oh no no no.

What about the fact that many readers of the self-help genre cannot for the life of them understand major Western philosophical works written between 600-200 B.C.? Aside from the oddly narrow time period you've carved out here (I have no idea why you've basically limited your selection to the Ancient Greeks), major Western philosophical works are goddamn hard to understand - not only because of their archaic language, but because philosophy - properly done philosophy - is generally a giant mindf*ck. Hell, I'm generally considered intelligent, actually have some training in philosophy, and I still can't make sense of a good deal of Plato, let alone some of the philosphers who've arguably influenced the modern self-help genre a lot more, like Heidegger - or for that matter, the positive psychologists. Perhaps this icky, water-diluted lemonade form of self-help is the only kind intelligible to the majority of self-help readers.

I agree that most self-help books are very poorly written. Actually, my opinion of the genre is probably not that much better than yours - but to say that anybody who publishes their work with some profit in mind is necessarily a "monstrous injustice" seems a little extreme.

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