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That sounds great Moonbase, and thanks for doing all this work for all of us, who are still fighting this damn skin decease. It means a lot man. Thanks.

Elvin

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So I've been on this diet for the past 2 months or so. I've been trying diet stuff for almost 5 years now, and can't ever get clear, despite my skin improving somewhat. I haven't eaten gluten or dairy for 4 years, except for a few random times. For the past two months my diet has been:

- Approx 1.5 lb of wild caught fish(salmon, cod, tuna, tilapia, flounder)

- 0.5 lb chicken breast

-Green smoothie with frozen berries, and leafy greens (kale, spinach, collard, mustard)

-1.5 lb of yams

-Approx 1,000 calories from fruit. Grapes, pineapple, apples, kiwi, melons, etc

-Some broccoli, cauliflower, asparagus, and other various veggies

This is split up into 4 meals, sometimes 3.

My skin has neither improved or gotten worse. It is just the usual daily pustules around the crease of my nose, on my chin, and around my mouth. Sometimes on the back of my scalp. Any idea what I'm doing wrong here, or should change? Thank for any help you can provide

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^ that's a pretty damn good diet. I would try cutting back a bit on the fruit. Some people have trouble with large amounts of fructose.

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That is quite a good diet. I would try cutting the berries, apple, pineapple and perhaps even the kiwi - all of those fruits can be problem causing.

I would also consider kicking the chicken breast.. you are way over doing it with the protein as it is. I wouldn't eat more than 1lb of fish.

I am also rather surprised you can eat that all in one day - I mean that's A LOT of food. One guess would be that you're eating more than your digestive system can handle.

Are you on any medications/supplements?

If you ate that much or even close to that much for 2 months straight.. you should have gained a pretty fair amount of weight.. 15ish lb's. If you haven't gained that much weight there would be a lack of proper assimilation of that food.

How is your stool, regularity, and over all digestion?

How do you cook the foods, and with what?

EDIT:

I would consider tossing all the vegetables. Just stick to tubers, fruit and fish

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moonbase what can you say about my breakouts... after ejaculation...( I breakout out in about 2 to 3 days after...) You think it has to do with dht.. Please explain, thankks. Honestly when i don't masterbate for a month, my skin turns out like baby skin.

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Since I dont eat dairy or nuts, I am having some trouble getting enough calcium in my diet.

Beside spinach, what do you guys eat, to get enough in your diet?

Elvin

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I have wrote in this thread about my digestion/bloating issues in this thread already but just wondering if you have any ideas about my problems with fats. This week i have been trying olive oil, coconut oil, avacados etc and my bloating and constipation are alot worse. They make my stomach completely blocked up, make my body ache, brainfog so i find it hard to concentrate and today there is a unpleasant feeling in the right hand bottom corner of my stomach. I know this diet plan is more about fruits etc and no fats so it's defiently something im going to have to go at but do you have any idea why fats would do this to me?

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moonbase what can you say about my breakouts... after ejaculation...( I breakout out in about 2 to 3 days after...) You think it has to do with dht.. Please explain, thankks. Honestly when i don't masterbate for a month, my skin turns out like baby skin.

I found "david the skin king" a very reasonable answer to this, scientist dont find a connection between ejaculation and acne, thats true, but david says that when someone ejaculate the body needs more nutrients to produce sperms, lack of nutrients = acne, this could be the answer

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Since I dont eat dairy or nuts, I am having some trouble getting enough calcium in my diet.

Beside spinach, what do you guys eat, to get enough in your diet?

Elvin

sounds kinda crazy but ground up eggshells. google it, its a GREAT source of calcium.

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I have wrote in this thread about my digestion/bloating issues in this thread already but just wondering if you have any ideas about my problems with fats. This week i have been trying olive oil, coconut oil, avacados etc and my bloating and constipation are alot worse. They make my stomach completely blocked up, make my body ache, brainfog so i find it hard to concentrate and today there is a unpleasant feeling in the right hand bottom corner of my stomach. I know this diet plan is more about fruits etc and no fats so it's defiently something im going to have to go at but do you have any idea why fats would do this to me?

I believe good digestion starts with proper amounts of HCl. Fat requires bile to digest. When your stomach is emptying it's the stomach acid that triggers the gallbladder to release bile. If there isn't enough HCl in the stomach you wont get that trigger and the fat basically acts as a binder through digestion.

If you can pick up some betaine HCl. A good protocol for taking it is.. take 1 tablet at the beginning of a meal.. if no burning is felt (IN THE STOMACH) after 5 mins, take another.. do this till you feel the burning... when you feel a slight burn, one less pill is your required dose. After a little while you will need to take less and less as your body learns to create more acid. Eat slowly and chewing your food well also stimulates digestion.

@ Ejaculation

My take on it is pretty simple. If you are ejaculating you are sending a signal to your body that you need to reproduce - and your body will make necessary hormones. When you ejaculate your T levels plummet, and then raise higher than they were before.

@ Calcium

Yep eggshell calcium is a good bet - eating fish bones helps too.

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I have wrote in this thread about my digestion/bloating issues in this thread already but just wondering if you have any ideas about my problems with fats. This week i have been trying olive oil, coconut oil, avacados etc and my bloating and constipation are alot worse. They make my stomach completely blocked up, make my body ache, brainfog so i find it hard to concentrate and today there is a unpleasant feeling in the right hand bottom corner of my stomach. I know this diet plan is more about fruits etc and no fats so it's defiently something im going to have to go at but do you have any idea why fats would do this to me?

I believe good digestion starts with proper amounts of HCl. Fat requires bile to digest. When your stomach is emptying it's the stomach acid that triggers the gallbladder to release bile. If there isn't enough HCl in the stomach you wont get that trigger and the fat basically acts as a binder through digestion.

If you can pick up some betaine HCl. A good protocol for taking it is.. take 1 tablet at the beginning of a meal.. if no burning is felt (IN THE STOMACH) after 5 mins, take another.. do this till you feel the burning... when you feel a slight burn, one less pill is your required dose. After a little while you will need to take less and less as your body learns to create more acid. Eat slowly and chewing your food well also stimulates digestion.

Thanks, shall give that a try. Since ive had stomach problems ive tried things like plant enzymes, zinc, l-glutamine to help but they have most times made things worse as well, could low amounts of HCI cause this so that i couldn't deal with these supplements correctly?

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Hold on to your socks - i'll have a ultra version up this weekend. Will go over everything you could possibly want to know.

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That is quite a good diet. I would try cutting the berries, apple, pineapple and perhaps even the kiwi - all of those fruits can be problem causing.

I would also consider kicking the chicken breast.. you are way over doing it with the protein as it is. I wouldn't eat more than 1lb of fish.

I am also rather surprised you can eat that all in one day - I mean that's A LOT of food. One guess would be that you're eating more than your digestive system can handle.

Are you on any medications/supplements?

If you ate that much or even close to that much for 2 months straight.. you should have gained a pretty fair amount of weight.. 15ish lb's. If you haven't gained that much weight there would be a lack of proper assimilation of that food.

How is your stool, regularity, and over all digestion?

How do you cook the foods, and with what?

EDIT:

I would consider tossing all the vegetables. Just stick to tubers, fruit and fish

I'm 6'3", weigh 200 lbs, and am fairly lean (approx 10% bf). I workout and am pretty strong(600 lb DL, 450 lb squat. Not trying to brag, just pointing out that I do lift heavy if that is an issue), and also am rather active throughout the day, hence my high caloric intake. My workouts are intense but short. 4 days/week, about 30-40 minutes tops. A few years ago when I first started this healthy lifestyle I was anorexic and 135 lb. I've been slowly increasing calories, and subsequently my weight since then. This pretty much maintains my weight right now which isn't too shocking with my activity level. Digestion is really good. I never feel bloated or gassy. I have 2-3 bowel movements per day. Stool is good. My overall digestion has improved drastically over the years, along with general health and well-being, just this persistent damn acne. I bake my fish with herbs and spices. Chicken is made in the crockpot on low. Veggies are steamed or raw(green smoothie). Tubers are baked. I feel like the protein amount is good for me. Any less and I feel I have trouble recovering from workouts. Btw, I stopped working out for about 4 months about a year ago, and dropped my protein intake drastically, and still had acne. This makes me think that my workouts and protein intake are not the problem. I was still eating a very similar diet at the time, except less carbs and more fat.

I appreciate your time and suggestions. I will try cutting back on some veggies(which seems quite weird, but what the hell), and stick more to grapes and melons for fruit, along with yams, and other tubers. Sound like a reasonable plan?

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Just thought i'd chime in...outofoptions, since that is quite a lot of food split into four meals, maybe it would be wise to split it into ever smaller portions...if nothing else works, it might be worth a shot.

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Question

Are any types of bread, beans (the kind like Heinz), crackers, or tinned soups ok? Or anything that isn't on the list in the first post? Eggs maybe?

Also, you mentioned about only having ethically raised chicken. What's the difference, in relation to acne, about a cheap one from the supermarket freezer? I need a list of acne-safe meats.

Very informative btw, thanks a lot.

Edited by Callum.

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Hold on to your socks - i'll have a ultra version up this weekend. Will go over everything you could possibly want to know.

I've been looking forward to the updated version for a while now. The first post is already very informative.

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How about all organic, grass feed meats? Are those allowed? Liver=yum, but not unless organic, and loads of beans, potatoes, yuka, spinach, coconut milk, brown rice, coconut oil, and fish!

Oh, and fruits of course! Melons, banana's, some apples (not a big fan), drizzled in some raw honey!

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Hi moonbase,

This is an interesting take on the acne/diet idea ... you've certainly got quite a depth and breadth of nutritional knowledge! I'm a nursing student with a bit of an interest in nutrition, and I was just wondering if you would mind compiling a bibliography? I'd be really interested to check out some of the sources you've used. It'd be a great resource for people who would like to look into these things a little further for themselves.

Thanks :)

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I have been reading this whole thread, and I must say I feel so INSPIRED!

All my life I've been interested in experementing with what I eat, mostly tried all sorts of "health food" types of diets - vegetarian, vegan, Raw food vegan for a few months and so on, trying to find foods that "fit" my body. I've never had any weight- or major health issues, aside from acne (which may or may not be a big problem, I've been picking for ages so I'm not really sure how bad it is "au naturel". That's why I'm on here, to keep a no-more-picking journal)

The past months I've had MASSIVE cravings for a couple of foods: winter squash/pumpkin, sweet potatoes, kale, spinach, arugula (rocket), dates, anything with coconut, pears, fish and quinoa. I always think it's interesting to look further into how cravings are interconnected with healing and how our bodies communicate to us, so I was happy to see that a few of my craving-foods were amongst what you recommend.

Reading all your posts, Moonbase, makes me really interested in making some further changes in my diet. When I was on raw foods I got into this very intuitive state with food, where I got really good signals about what felt right for me and not. Fresh fruits and green juices felt like my best friends. I want more greens and more fruit! and more fish!

To me, fruits + greens + fish + tubers makes perfect sense. I can feel my body relax and get happy just thinking about focusing my diet around those things. I think I'll make some changes, cut back on oils and fat in general and up the fish and greens intake. Quinoa and oats are beloved parts of my diet, even though I can understand how they might be harmful.

On a regular day I'll have

Breakfast: Apple juice with 1 tsp spirulina and 1 tsp acai powder. Cooked oatmeal with 2-3 pieces of fruit and soy milk, a cooked egg or rice crackers with nut butter/fruit

Snack: 2 pieces fresh fruit, or dried figs and almonds

Lunch: Cooked quinoa, kale, baked butternut squash, tofu or beans. Salad of arugula, apple and cucumber.

Snack: Useualy "brownie": dates, walnuts, cacao, vanilla bean, grated coconut in food processor.

Dinner: Depends, sometimes veg soup, sometimes like lunch, sometimes just different things: fruit, rice crackers, leftovers, nuts.

(ofcourse, this is different every day, but a general idea of my preferences)

I drink only herbal teas (and lots of water, ofcourse), and supplement Vit D, B complex and one with Iron+minerals. And a probiotic.

I'm really looking forward to reading your lists and recommendations and tweaking my diet to match it better :) Keep up the great work, we all need food for thought and challenging ideas to break old habits and find new paths to health and happiness.

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Is this restrictive diet suitable for candida? I want to try and eliminate possible food intolerance, candida etc with the foods allowed in the first post.

ALSO - You mention seafood being safe, but I have read something about it causing breakouts... Iodine etc...

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