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1 hour ago, Calcified said:

Do you have fat malabsorption issues or folliculitis? Two rounds is alot.

Some longer water fasting and liver flushes have helped fat absorption immensely and no longer have any issues.

No folliculitis, but with the excessive sebum, was getting plugged pores, blackheads, whiteheads, etc, along with dandruff, very flaky facial skin, and blepharitis.   These are finally starting to fade away.  Acne was on upper arms/back/chest as well, all fading.   I am actually shocked how much the skin can heal and normalize.

 

Edit: Should add that using HCl and bile acids for a few months, helped as well.

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Been reading this thread. I took Roaccutane 5 times, 5 courses in the space of 8 years in different variations each time prescribed by dermatologists controlled with the blood tests. The last time was almost 7 years ago. Since then I have been trying to do smith with the scars with no success. Before I was in such a terrible state with my skin, I could not go out of the house even with two layers of foundation, painfull cysts persisted on the most visible parts of the face, chest and upper back. After the 1st course everything cleared. Came back to the face in about 8 months, never came back to the body and these days that parts look like I never had acne there. For the face it came back every time after the course 2-8 months, so I decided that if 2-3 months course on a small dosage keeps it more or less under control so I was prepared to take for the rest of my life. Luckily the cysts stopped around 38. I still have problems but not even close that severe that I have to take roa again, it was like this for 7 years and I truly hope it stays that way. The aside effect I had: very dry eyes, nose, lips and rash on the hands. On the low dosage this symptoms were very mild. I had some problems with the joints on the higher dosage and I drank tons of water all the time like 3+liters a day. I got a heavy temporal hair loss during the 5th time. The blood tests every two months were always fine. Suicidal? I was Before roa, not during the courses and not after. After I stopped road I developed Folliculitis? on the head skin, it comes and goes and dermatologist offer to restart roa again because usual creams do not work. For me roa was my Saver and the only thing I wished I started it earlier, I would not have to deal with scars these days and for the rest of my life as I understand after the treatments. So I was ‘lucky’ then many people whose aside effects were much severe. My roa story..

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1 hour ago, under_tow said:

Some longer water fasting and liver flushes have helped fat absorption immensely and no longer have any issues.

No folliculitis, but with the excessive sebum, was getting plugged pores, blackheads, whiteheads, etc, along with dandruff, very flaky facial skin, and blepharitis.   These are finally starting to fade away.  Acne was on upper arms/back/chest as well, all fading.   I am actually shocked how much the skin can heal and normalize.

 

Edit: Should add that using HCl and bile acids for a few months, helped as well.

Hmm what bile acids do you take? Very interested.

The reason why I ask is there are two types of bile acids: primary and secondary. I wonder which type has helped you. I am guessing it is secondary, but I'm interested to hear.

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On 2/15/2019 at 10:01 PM, Calcified said:

You only did one month? what was your dosage?

Your sides are similar to mine but I took it for alot longer.

Yes i only did one month. It’s crazy how only one month caused all these issues. I really think I might’ve died if I did the full 4-6 months. I honestly can’t remember the dosage though. What about you?

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Those on the anti Vit A diet, are you also concerned with avoiding Gluten & Sugar??

Sounds like there are two different schools of thought concerned with diet.

I’m really interested in trying to switch back on “sebum oil production” - correct me if I’m wrong but avoiding Gluten & Sugar isn’t necessarily going to help this particular issue, that’s not to say it doesn’t have its own benefits but it’s not necessarily what many of us looking for from a diet change correct?

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6 hours ago, Sibel said:

Been reading this thread. I took Roaccutane 5 times, 5 courses in the space of 8 years in different variations each time prescribed by dermatologists controlled with the blood tests. The last time was almost 7 years ago. Since then I have been trying to do smith with the scars with no success. Before I was in such a terrible state with my skin, I could not go out of the house even with two layers of foundation, painfull cysts persisted on the most visible parts of the face, chest and upper back. After the 1st course everything cleared. Came back to the face in about 8 months, never came back to the body and these days that parts look like I never had acne there. For the face it came back every time after the course 2-8 months, so I decided that if 2-3 months course on a small dosage keeps it more or less under control so I was prepared to take for the rest of my life. Luckily the cysts stopped around 38. I still have problems but not even close that severe that I have to take roa again, it was like this for 7 years and I truly hope it stays that way. The aside effect I had: very dry eyes, nose, lips and rash on the hands. On the low dosage this symptoms were very mild. I had some problems with the joints on the higher dosage and I drank tons of water all the time like 3+liters a day. I got a heavy temporal hair loss during the 5th time. The blood tests every two months were always fine. Suicidal? I was Before roa, not during the courses and not after. After I stopped road I developed Folliculitis? on the head skin, it comes and goes and dermatologist offer to restart roa again because usual creams do not work. For me roa was my Saver and the only thing I wished I started it earlier, I would not have to deal with scars these days and for the rest of my life as I understand after the treatments. So I was ‘lucky’ then many people whose aside effects were much severe. My roa story..

Thanks for sharing.

5 times..wow.. sounds like estrogens are protecting you from side effects.

4 hours ago, Mabbbs said:

Yes i only did one month. It’s crazy how only one month caused all these issues. I really think I might’ve died if I did the full 4-6 months. I honestly can’t remember the dosage though. What about you?

Yeah it's tuff first month, I just kept taking it but less than a year, honestly It could just be a switch flicking in the body.

I keep telling them my body look like I took it for years.

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9 hours ago, under_tow said:

Some longer water fasting and liver flushes have helped fat absorption immensely and no longer have any issues.

No folliculitis, but with the excessive sebum, was getting plugged pores, blackheads, whiteheads, etc, along with dandruff, very flaky facial skin, and blepharitis.   These are finally starting to fade away.  Acne was on upper arms/back/chest as well, all fading.   I am actually shocked how much the skin can heal and normalize.

 

Edit: Should add that using HCl and bile acids for a few months, helped as well.

I have had blood test

vitamin A 1.9 range 1-3 

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10 hours ago, Calcified said:

I have had blood test

vitamin A 1.9 range 1-3 

Blood test is not reflective of what is stored in liver and fat tissues.

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1 hour ago, under_tow said:

Blood test is not reflective of what is stored in liver and fat tissues.

I think a few hundred pages back some thought they were now deficient in vitamin a.

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10 minutes ago, Calcified said:

I think a few hundred pages back some thought they were now deficient in vitamin a.

Taking accutane in normal dosage 40mg to 80mg per day is roughly equivalent to 2.5 million IU to 5 million IU of vitamin A per day.  Over a 6 month dosage length, the amounts are massive.

After accutane no one is deficient, they are absolutely overloaded in storage of liver and fat tissues.

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On 2/11/2019 at 11:19 PM, StopAccutane said:

Actually, Bifidobacterium Longum   exists in VSL #3.

different strains can have different effects, for example bifido longum bb536, is not the same as bifido longum 35624.

same species, different strain. it goes genus, species, then strain.

There could be genus wide effects, species wide or even certain strain effects that distinguish from other bacteria even of the same species.

 

 

by HM An - ‎2011 - ‎Cited by 176 - ‎Related articles
Jul 12, 2011 - These data suggest that some specific strains of bifidobacteria related to lipid metabolism and body weight may be potential therapeutic ...
On 2/15/2019 at 10:34 AM, gutskinaxis said:

Have any of you done a microbiome analysis? I have some theories...

uBiome uses machine learning, artificial intelligence, and advanced statistical techniques, as well as our patented precision sequencing™ process to analyze ...
 
it would be nice to compare a few of these amongst ourselves, ive been meaning to order one of their tests.

 

 

Also not including our own genes, it looks like we might be capable of passing on certain bacteria as well that could have a big impact on overall health. Im sure this idea isnt exclusive to this particular species.

New Genome Study of a Bifidobacterium subspecies by Morinaga Milk and APC Microbiome Ireland May Explain its Wide Distribution Across All Ages

http://apc.ucc.ie/unravelling-secrets-bifidobacteria-across-three-generations/

B. longum subsp. longum is extensively transmitted between relatives, and that such transmission does not occur only between mothers and infants, as previously believed, but also between other family members and even across three generations.  

“It is a remarkable finding that not only was transmission between mother and child observed, but also between father and child and even between husband and wife.  This is also the first report of a particular strain of gut microbiota that appears to have been transmitted across three generations in a family, for instance, between a grandmother, mother, and infant”, stated Dr. Toshitaka Odamaki, Manager of Microbiota Research Dept. at Next Generation Science Institute of Morinaga and lead researcher of the study.

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Hello everyone.  Like my my name suggests I think that one of the keys to coping is to completely accept the situation for what it is.

My goal is to provide any one on this forum emotional support and insight.  I took accelerated chemistry, 2 moths of organic chemistry before dropping out, and 3 semester of Biology in college and feel like I have a backbone of understand that may provide a relatively scientific explanation for what most people on here are experiencing, although I do not have a perfectly scientific understanding as some of you on here may have.  This is why I would consider myself to be proficient in technical writing but not proficient in scientific writing.   On the side, I have studied psychology although I only took one semester in college.  In my opinion, accutane causes chemical problems which translates first into biochemical problems which creates physiological problems.  I want to introduce things that have scientific fundamentals and be able to translate how this relates to the human experience.   I want to conform to the standards of this sight to the maximum degree possible so if I ever say something that is not in alignment with your standards of acceptability please do not hesitate to say something, any feedback on my posts are welcome.  If you would like to have any sort of private conversation, please do not hesitate in emailing me.  I do realize that my writing style mixes scientific ideas with subjective opinions, I think everyone has their subjective truth and in my writing I am attempting to truthfully disclosing what my subjective truth is.

 I am 27 years old and started on accutane as a 20 year old.  They say that a blind person is able to remember their sense of vision for 7 years at which point they stop remembering what the experience of vision is like, I think that is sort of what I am going through right now.  I can't really remember what having the normal experience of the world is like any more.  As the years of past, I have been forced to understand a lot to compensate for the deficits that I am experiencing post accutane. Understanding exactly how great the adversity is has been a journey, my main goal is to allow any one who is looking to understand what I have come to understand over the past 7 years quickly through my writing.  I feel like my understanding has come full circle just in the past few days and this has inspired me to post on here although I accept that there is still a lot to learn.  I have read through about 200 pages on here in the last 2 years although I have not posted on here.  I have asked my personal doctor why I am having these problems and he along with any one I have talked to from the medical community outright denies the possibility that accutane could be doing anything other than clearing our skin and causing dry lips even though it is a chemotherapy drug.  Whether this is due to a fundamental flaw in the medical system or only manifests for isotretinoin is not something I understand.  The side effects listed are severe but they out right deny that it is causing permanent side effects and complications. This is why understanding these issues is close to impossible in my opinion.  It is easy to look in the mirror and think that things have improved, in a way we are superficially oriented and it is very difficult to understand what might be wrong in our selves when their has been an improvement in our appearance let alone having other people understand.  I have tried to explain what has happened to my family as they have noticed the flaws in my character but do not understand why.   Human beings have a deep need for connection, some psychologists have identified it as our highest need.  In my experience of the world up until the age of 20 I suffered deeply from isolation and this is what was driving me to take an extreme medication such as accutane.

If a movement to bring awareness to the problems that accutane has caused is occurring it is still in still in it's infancy.  Like a giant snowball rolling down a hill, a cultural and civil movement starts slow but gains a critical mass where it develops an unstoppable momentum.  In my opinion, we need to act collectively to and unify to stand any chance in this fight, acting independently, we stand little chance.  A point of critical momentum may be on the near horizon if we unite and act collectively. 

First I want to try to discuss what is happening it's most fundamental level, the problem starts on a chemical level so that is what I am first going to try to address.  Accutane is a chemotherapy drug otherwise known as 13 cis retinoic acid.  It is also used for Leukemia and Lung cancer as a chemotherapy drug but went on the market as an acne drug in the 80's.   Technically 13 cis retinoic acid is a derivative of vitamin A, this is why many people have identified the symptoms of PAS(Post Acccutane Syndrome) as being similar to vitamin A deficiency or Vitamin A toxicity.  I am not really sure which one it most closely resembles although if research actually goes into PAS this might be one of the first things that is identified, if Accutane truly does resemble Vitamin A deficiency or toxicity.  Marketing Accutane as a vitamin A derivative is where I think that the first deceptions occur and this in my opinion creates a false sense of security.  Even though it is a vitamin A derivative, it is still chemo therapy drug and this is what the drug companies fail to reveal.  I am life insurance agent and if we fail to reveal details such as this, it is considered fraud.  I am not sure why pharmaceutical companies are not held to this same standard.  to me this is the greatest injustice of Accutane.

Even if we were putting pure vitamin A into our bodies and this could actually be process by our bodies efficiently, as I understand, we are putting 25-100 times the normal levels of vitamin A into our systems.  Since 13 cis retinoic acid it is not a naturally occurring chemical in the human body or at least only found in trace amounts in nature, our biology did not evolve to deal with 13 cis retinoic acid in the quantities that it is prescribed in the form of accutane, as I understand, our bodies naturally lack the enzymes to break down 13 cis retinoic acid as it is put into our systems especially in the quantities that accutane is prescribed. This is why the effects are generally permanent. When I first started looking into this, I intuitively perceived that there would be a chemical method of reversing the alterations that accutane causes.  However, there no such method, possibly because it has not been researched and possibly because there is not solution. Something that I think could be a solution is if we could synthetically create an enzyme that specifically targets 13 cis retinoic acid because from what I have read, the epigenetic(epigentic means a change in phenotype without a change in the DNA sequence) alternations are not reversible or curable in part because 13 cis retinoic acid is stored in various parts of the body but is never eliminated from the body.  From what I understand, 13 cis retinoic acid stay with us for life.

The video that nature crazy created, which is the most watched youtube video on how to cleanse from accutane, address the physiological method of eliminating accutane but does not address that once 13 cis retinoic acid is stored, the liver, no matter how much bile flow is occurring, is not able to rid the quantities of 13 cis retinoic acid that is stored in the body.  I have done a lot research on this and there are some ideas out their such as cleansing the liver, fasting, and even finasteride.  The flaw in this is that increasing bile flow is the general method of eliminating any toxin, while this may be good advice for your general health, I think that what we need is a specific way of eliminating the toxin 13 cis retinoic acid.  Where I am still unsure of is if 13 cis retinoic acid was eliminated, if the chemical alternations that it initially caused would be naturally re modified to restore the original biochemical structures that were altered. 

I think I have written enough for one post, today I attempted to address the chemistry of the isotretinoin although I know that there are holes in my understanding.  Going forward, I will try to orient my writing more towards the human experience.

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2 hours ago, DeepAcceptance said:

Hello everyone.  Like my my name suggests I think that one of the keys to coping is to completely accept the situation for what it is.

My goal is to provide any one on this forum emotional support and insight.  I took accelerated chemistry, 2 moths of organic chemistry before dropping out, and 3 semester of Biology in college and feel like I have a backbone of understand that may provide a relatively scientific explanation for what most people on here are experiencing, although I do not have a perfectly scientific understanding as some of you on here may have.  This is why I would consider myself to be proficient in technical writing but not proficient in scientific writing.   On the side, I have studied psychology although I only took one semester in college.  In my opinion, accutane causes chemical problems which translates first into biochemical problems which creates physiological problems.  I want to introduce things that have scientific fundamentals and be able to translate how this relates to the human experience.   I want to conform to the standards of this sight to the maximum degree possible so if I ever say something that is not in alignment with your standards of acceptability please do not hesitate to say something, any feedback on my posts are welcome.  If you would like to have any sort of private conversation, please do not hesitate in emailing me.  I do realize that my writing style mixes scientific ideas with subjective opinions, I think everyone has their subjective truth and in my writing I am attempting to truthfully disclosing what my subjective truth is.

 I am 27 years old and started on accutane as a 20 year old.  They say that a blind person is able to remember their sense of vision for 7 years at which point they stop remembering what the experience of vision is like, I think that is sort of what I am going through right now.  I can't really remember what having the normal experience of the world is like any more.  As the years of past, I have been forced to understand a lot to compensate for the deficits that I am experiencing post accutane. Understanding exactly how great the adversity is has been a journey, my main goal is to allow any one who is looking to understand what I have come to understand over the past 7 years quickly through my writing.  I feel like my understanding has come full circle just in the past few days and this has inspired me to post on here although I accept that there is still a lot to learn.  I have read through about 200 pages on here in the last 2 years although I have not posted on here.  I have asked my personal doctor why I am having these problems and he along with any one I have talked to from the medical community outright denies the possibility that accutane could be doing anything other than clearing our skin and causing dry lips even though it is a chemotherapy drug.  Whether this is due to a fundamental flaw in the medical system or only manifests for isotretinoin is not something I understand.  The side effects listed are severe but they out right deny that it is causing permanent side effects and complications. This is why understanding these issues is close to impossible in my opinion.  It is easy to look in the mirror and think that things have improved, in a way we are superficially oriented and it is very difficult to understand what might be wrong in our selves when their has been an improvement in our appearance let alone having other people understand.  I have tried to explain what has happened to my family as they have noticed the flaws in my character but do not understand why.   Human beings have a deep need for connection, some psychologists have identified it as our highest need.  In my experience of the world up until the age of 20 I suffered deeply from isolation and this is what was driving me to take an extreme medication such as accutane.

If a movement to bring awareness to the problems that accutane has caused is occurring it is still in still in it's infancy.  Like a giant snowball rolling down a hill, a cultural and civil movement starts slow but gains a critical mass where it develops an unstoppable momentum.  In my opinion, we need to act collectively to and unify to stand any chance in this fight, acting independently, we stand little chance.  A point of critical momentum may be on the near horizon if we unite and act collectively. 

First I want to try to discuss what is happening it's most fundamental level, the problem starts on a chemical level so that is what I am first going to try to address.  Accutane is a chemotherapy drug otherwise known as 13 cis retinoic acid.  It is also used for Leukemia and Lung cancer as a chemotherapy drug but went on the market as an acne drug in the 80's.   Technically 13 cis retinoic acid is a derivative of vitamin A, this is why many people have identified the symptoms of PAS(Post Acccutane Syndrome) as being similar to vitamin A deficiency or Vitamin A toxicity.  I am not really sure which one it most closely resembles although if research actually goes into PAS this might be one of the first things that is identified, if Accutane truly does resemble Vitamin A deficiency or toxicity.  Marketing Accutane as a vitamin A derivative is where I think that the first deceptions occur and this in my opinion creates a false sense of security.  Even though it is a vitamin A derivative, it is still chemo therapy drug and this is what the drug companies fail to reveal.  I am life insurance agent and if we fail to reveal details such as this, it is considered fraud.  I am not sure why pharmaceutical companies are not held to this same standard.  to me this is the greatest injustice of Accutane.

Even if we were putting pure vitamin A into our bodies and this could actually be process by our bodies efficiently, as I understand, we are putting 25-100 times the normal levels of vitamin A into our systems.  Since 13 cis retinoic acid it is not a naturally occurring chemical in the human body or at least only found in trace amounts in nature, our biology did not evolve to deal with 13 cis retinoic acid in the quantities that it is prescribed in the form of accutane, as I understand, our bodies naturally lack the enzymes to break down 13 cis retinoic acid as it is put into our systems especially in the quantities that accutane is prescribed. This is why the effects are generally permanent. When I first started looking into this, I intuitively perceived that there would be a chemical method of reversing the alterations that accutane causes.  However, there no such method, possibly because it has not been researched and possibly because there is not solution. Something that I think could be a solution is if we could synthetically create an enzyme that specifically targets 13 cis retinoic acid because from what I have read, the epigenetic(epigentic means a change in phenotype without a change in the DNA sequence) alternations are not reversible or curable in part because 13 cis retinoic acid is stored in various parts of the body but is never eliminated from the body.  From what I understand, 13 cis retinoic acid stay with us for life.

The video that nature crazy created, which is the most watched youtube video on how to cleanse from accutane, address the physiological method of eliminating accutane but does not address that once 13 cis retinoic acid is stored, the liver, no matter how much bile flow is occurring, is not able to rid the quantities of 13 cis retinoic acid that is stored in the body.  I have done a lot research on this and there are some ideas out their such as cleansing the liver, fasting, and even finasteride.  The flaw in this is that increasing bile flow is the general method of eliminating any toxin, while this may be good advice for your general health, I think that what we need is a specific way of eliminating the toxin 13 cis retinoic acid.  Where I am still unsure of is if 13 cis retinoic acid was eliminated, if the chemical alternations that it initially caused would be naturally re modified to restore the original biochemical structures that were altered. 

I think I have written enough for one post, today I attempted to address the chemistry of the isotretinoin although I know that there are holes in my understanding.  Going forward, I will try to orient my writing more towards the human experience.

13 cis retinoic is eliminated from the body just like normal all-trans-retinoic acid is removed.  13-cis is just a mirror image of ATRA, hence is was patent-able like 9-cis was.   Easiest way to get the massive amounts out from the accutane rounds is to eat a zero vitamin A diet.

 

 

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57 minutes ago, under_tow said:

13 cis retinoic is eliminated from the body just like normal all-trans-retinoic acid is removed.  13-cis is just a mirror image of ATRA, hence is was patent-able like 9-cis was.   Easiest way to get the massive amounts out from the accutane rounds is to eat a zero vitamin A diet.

 

 

Yes I just learned this watching a video from "best person ever" on youtube.  It sounds like the damage has all ready been done.  What are the mechanisms that it most directly affects?  I learned today that telomerase it severely down regulated.   I heard that this causes telomere shortening.  This and the fact that it damages the myelin sheath is probably what frightens me the most.  From my understanding, fasting is the only way to cleanse down to the cellular level.  It seems like this may have a mild effect.  Funding is so limited for research because the medical community does not acknowledges that it's mechanisms are the same as chemotherapy.  It doesn't seem like research would do anything though because no one has found a way to cure the damaged mechanisms after chemotherapy.  Do you have any reason to think that this is incorrect?

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1 hour ago, DeepAcceptance said:

Yes I just learned this watching a video from "best person ever" on youtube.  It sounds like the damage has all ready been done.  What are the mechanisms that it most directly affects?  I learned today that telomerase it severely down regulated.   I heard that this causes telomere shortening.  This and the fact that it damages the myelin sheath is probably what frightens me the most.  From my understanding, fasting is the only way to cleanse down to the cellular level.  It seems like this may have a mild effect.  Funding is so limited for research because the medical community does not acknowledges that it's mechanisms are the same as chemotherapy.  It doesn't seem like research would do anything though because no one has found a way to cure the damaged mechanisms after chemotherapy.  Do you have any reason to think that this is incorrect?

Nicotinamide Riboside may be able to reverse these effects.

Telomerase function is due in part to sirtuin proteins. These sirtuins are dependent on NAD+. Nicotinamide riboside is a NAD+ precursor that decreases as we age. Boosting levels of NAD+ may be able to restore and up regulate telomerase function. There is more info here: https://www.fightagainstacne.com/blog/anti-aging-compound-fights-acne

Myelin sheath I need to do more research.

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53 minutes ago, gutskinaxis said:

Nicotinamide Riboside may be able to reverse these effects.

Telomerase function is due in part to sirtuin proteins. These sirtuins are dependent on NAD+. Nicotinamide riboside is a NAD+ precursor that decreases as we age. Boosting levels of NAD+ may be able to restore and up regulate telomerase function. There is more info here: https://www.fightagainstacne.com/blog/anti-aging-compound-fights-acne

Myelin sheath I need to do more research.

The damage to the myelin sheath happens in all chemo therapies.  It keeps the myelin sheath from being able to repair itself.  Personally there are other things that are really bothering me, I have had my testosterone checked and I am 237ng/dl when the normal range is around 600-1000ng/dl for some one my age.  I went to a naturalpathic doctor and she identified that I have an auto immune disorder when my immune system is attacking my endocrine system which includes my reproductive system and adrenal glands.  I can't help but think that this was caused by accutane.  How expensive is NAD+?

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8 minutes ago, DeepAcceptance said:

The damage to the myelin sheath happens in all chemo therapies.  It keeps the myelin sheath from being able to repair itself.  Personally there are other things that are really bothering me, I have had my testosterone checked and I am 237ng/dl when the normal range is around 600-1000ng/dl for some one my age.  I went to a naturalpathic doctor and she identified that I have an auto immune disorder when my immune system is attacking my endocrine system which includes my reproductive system and adrenal glands.  I can't help but think that this was caused by accutane.  How expensive is NAD+?

Hmm. I think intermittent fasting and a really sound diet help a lot of these issues. It puts less stress on your liver. Great diets and fasting have been shown to really help injured livers and kidneys. Nicotinamide Riboside is not too expensive at all.

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When Undertow said about Tane “it peels you on the inside” I thinks that’s accurate to be honest.

I mean if our outer features are anything to judge by - thinning skin, thin hair, no oil etc, stands to reason that the same thing is happening on the inside yeah?

How to stop it, I would not know. All you can do is address the symptoms and work on them one by one.

1. Calm nervous system 

2. Diagnose allergies ( Gluten for ex ) clean up gut & liver. This includes adjustments and supplementing along with avoiding certain foods.

3. Repair HPA Axis 

Havent discussed with Kinesiologist what comes next as it’s now been 6 months just working on these 3 steps....

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6 hours ago, gutskinaxis said:

Nicotinamide Riboside may be able to reverse these effects.

Telomerase function is due in part to sirtuin proteins. These sirtuins are dependent on NAD+. Nicotinamide riboside is a NAD+ precursor that decreases as we age. Boosting levels of NAD+ may be able to restore and up regulate telomerase function. There is more info here: https://www.fightagainstacne.com/blog/anti-aging-compound-fights-acne

Myelin sheath I need to do more research.

I've been researching NMN lately. Nicotinamide Mononucleotide. Watched a few interviews with Hardvard professor David Sinclair and his self treatment of NMN, Reservatrol, and Metformin for anti-aging purposes.

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8 minutes ago, macleod said:

I've been researching NMN lately. Nicotinamide Mononucleotide. Watched a few interviews with Hardvard professor David Sinclair and his self treatment of NMN, Reservatrol, and Metformin for anti-aging purposes.

 

Yes, NMN is basically the same thing as Nicotinamide Riboside.

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