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Help with indented skin and red scarring - Looking for suggestions!

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Hi everyone - I'm attaching a couple of photos to show the extent of my scarring and indented skin tone. The indents aren't too visible in the photos but trust me they are there.

My acne is under control but i'm having a tough time now dealing with the leftover issues! Scars and indented skin. The scars will fade eventually if I keep applying my creams and can in the short term be covered with makeup. What is bothering me the most is the indented skin. I'm getting married in July and I really don't want this to be worrying me on my big day!

My treatment: I'm currently using Retin A cream at night and Benzaclin during the day. I moisturize just in the day with Oil of Olay moisturizer with SPF 15. I must add the moisturizer would often make my skin super red and give a burning sensation. This tingling effect has stopped now but my skin is pretty dry overall.

Any ideas of how I can help fix the indents on my skin? My aesthician suggested microdermabrasion but i'm not 100% sure if I should do that whilst on these medications? Or if that would even work? Anyone got any tips for me?

Any help would be super! Thanks

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I think those might be PIH scars (post inflammatory hyperpigmentation)... its what i have :/ only mine are worse :/.. well were! they're fading like crazzzy!!! :D

Anyway....Try turmeric paste!!!

listen imma copy and paste one of my lasts posts cuz its too long- but it sums everything up :D

"I've been using turmric for my BAD PIH scarring and its worked increeeedibly!!! You have no idea. Of course, logically, the fading of the scars using turmeric won't happern over night. You have to be consitent with it. I've been using it since Feburary... and honeslty I'm expecting my skin to be free of scars hopefully in the summer (September at the latest)... anyway I love it because it's natural. You can buy it in its natural state- a root- or already in powder form from your local supermarket (publix, sweetbay, stores like that). After i've washed my face with my cleanser (right now im currently using proactiv's cleanser) I mix the (powdered) turmeric with a little of milk to make a paste. I apply it and leave it for like 15 min.After 15min, i wash it off and apply baking soda paste (b. soda w/ water... which i also leave for 15min) and wash my face to get rid of the light yellow stains. I also apply NATURAL vitamin e oil afterwards (d alpha tocopheryl acetate NOT dL alpha tocopheryl acetate- which is the synthetic one that causes break outs D:< ) on my face and leave overnight so that my face won't dry...Trust me even tho its "oil" it doesn't cause break outs cuz A- its natural instead of synthetic and B- vitamin e is used to get rid of scars.....

Anyway( sry for that info. overlaod lol)..Point is Vit. E- used for scarring.... B. soda- lightens skins... therefore gets rid os scarring... Turmeric- FABULOUS against "red" scarring not to mention regular scarring.... So using all that is basically a triple threat and my secret weapon against acne... while I began using turmeric for my scars, i noticed it got rid of my acne!(mild/moderate, sometimes slightly severe with occasional cysts ) ... well idk if its the turmeric by itself or my turmeric/b.soda/vit. e oil regimen that I've made... Turns out turmeric is great against acne since its a natural antiseptic, antiinflammatory and antibacterial agent.....

Okie doke.. so hopefully this "brief" response to your post was a helpful... Please let me know what your thoughts are ... and btw if you wanna do more research on turmeric google it, or look it up on this website-http://www.acne.org/messageboard/turmeric-magic-healing-t221077.html <--GREAT thread)

SN- just wanna say that just b/c i am currently using proactiv's cleanser doens't mean thats what "helped" me... NO! it was turmeric... i just happen to be using their cleanser b/c its already been paid for -.- argh(wat a waste of $$) but afterwords im just gonna buy a regualr cleanser like neutrogena or something.... the only reason why i don't ONLY rely on my turmeric/b.soda/vit. e oil regimen is because i liking washing the make up from my face first with a cleanser..

... i rly, rly, RLY hope you guys will try this... just give it a try for one week... just one week... if it doesn't help you for the better but makes things "worst"(i wouldn't see how.. but then again everyone's body is differnt) then obviously stop using the turmeric... but if it helps than AWESOME!

...if anybody is confused by anything i wrote, or has any questions feel free to PM me. Much luck!! may this be your last search for great skin "

I hope this helps hope2011 :) if ur gonna give it a shot be consistent with it i can't stress that enough... its the only way the turmeric will do its job ;)

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I have slightly indented scaring aswell as hyperpigmentation. After the redness goes away after months and months I can tell the skin is slightly indented, but just a little.

I'v been using aloe vera personally...well lately iv been slacking due to a busy schedual and being lazy at night. But you can buy really good aloe vera gel, I use lilly of the desert, I believe it's called or you can get a real aloe vera plant. I rub it on at night and sleep with it on.

I'v heard of several things that help, but not that i'v tried...lemon juice...cinammon.

Apparently honey also helps, this is what i'v been using as a cleanser. Organic, raw, unpasturized honey (looks creamy in color).

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When you stretch the skin around the scars, do they go flat? If they don't then you should look into subcision. I have some poc type scars that look like yours and I can tell you they are near impossible to fix. Most likely a derm will tell you to do fraxel. Since you don't want to be really red before your wedding I wouldn't do laser too close. You can also look in PaloVia home laser, there is a thread on that I started. Also, you may want to try fillers, not sure if it would work well on you though. They will only work if when you stretch the skin around the scars they go flat and then the filler will disappear at a rate based on your own body chemistry. My body ate up perlane really fast so I would need a permanent filler. You could also try selphyl, if you google the name and look at images, there is a pic of a girl who got great results for scarring pretty similar to yours. But that is a marketing pic, so who knows how real. Hope that helps!

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Thanks guys all your posts were very helpful! I'm so scared to try new things after my last break out (which btw was totally random - i never had acne before). I have an appointment with the dermatologist tomorrow and will also get his feedback on the turmeric, fillers and other natural ways of treating this! I just think any natural treatment would take a lot more time - which I'm short on!

Will update you when I get an answer from the derma tomorrow :)

Thanks again.

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When you stretch the skin around the scars, do they go flat? If they don't then you should look into subcision. I have some poc type scars that look like yours and I can tell you they are near impossible to fix. Most likely a derm will tell you to do fraxel. Since you don't want to be really red before your wedding I wouldn't do laser too close. You can also look in PaloVia home laser, there is a thread on that I started. Also, you may want to try fillers, not sure if it would work well on you though. They will only work if when you stretch the skin around the scars they go flat and then the filler will disappear at a rate based on your own body chemistry. My body ate up perlane really fast so I would need a permanent filler. You could also try selphyl, if you google the name and look at images, there is a pic of a girl who got great results for scarring pretty similar to yours. But that is a marketing pic, so who knows how real. Hope that helps!

how do you tell she has scarring? From those pictures, i see no scarring at all. Bad picture imo

Thanks guys all your posts were very helpful! I'm so scared to try new things after my last break out (which btw was totally random - i never had acne before). I have an appointment with the dermatologist tomorrow and will also get his feedback on the turmeric, fillers and other natural ways of treating this! I just think any natural treatment would take a lot more time - which I'm short on!

Will update you when I get an answer from the derma tomorrow :)

Thanks again.

just to let you know, there is no natural way to treat an indent.

The only thing you can do through those methods is to make the scar look better.

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Hi

So I just got back from the derma and he has suggested me a couple of options. He did right away caution me against Microdermabrasion or any other such "cosmetic procedures" because of a number of reasons. a) my skin is darker and apparently it could get more complicated b) my wedding is right around the corner so it's risky to try a new process right before c) any procedure has the risk of getting infected or complicated

He did however, after much persistence from my end give me a referral to another specialist/dermatologist that specialises in these cosmetic procedures. Said to go see her and seek advice. I will go consult with her tomorrow. It is a medic spa and i'm hoping a reputable clinic. Unfortunately for me they charge a $50 charge for consult.... not covered by my health plan :( Oh well. Will see what the upate is from that end.

He also gave me a 2nd option... to stop using the Benzaclin in the mornings but replace it with 2% clindamycin in Neostrata (something.... can't understand his writing). He said this is a milder version of a glycolic peel and should help with the scarring and marks. Anyone used this? Thoughts on this? He said to use this in the mornings and continue with the Retin-A cream at night.

Will see what the other specialist says tomorrow but i guess the backup plan is this new cream.

Yes i know the indenting won't completely go away but i'm hoping to reduce the visibility as much as I can.

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So I just got back from the derma and he has suggested me a couple of options. He did right away caution me against Microdermabrasion or any other such "cosmetic procedures" because of a number of reasons. a) my skin is darker and apparently it could get more complicated b) my wedding is right around the corner so it's risky to try a new process right before c) any procedure has the risk of getting infected or complicated

He did however, after much persistence from my end give me a referral to another specialist/dermatologist that specialises in these cosmetic procedures. Said to go see her and seek advice. I will go consult with her tomorrow. It is a medic spa and i'm hoping a reputable clinic. Unfortunately for me they charge a $50 charge for consult.... not covered by my health plan :( Oh well. Will see what the upate is from that end.

He also gave me a 2nd option... to stop using the Benzaclin in the mornings but replace it with 2% clindamycin in Neostrata (something.... can't understand his writing). He said this is a milder version of a glycolic peel and should help with the scarring and marks. Anyone used this? Thoughts on this? He said to use this in the mornings and continue with the Retin-A cream at night.

Will see what the other specialist says tomorrow but i guess the backup plan is this new cream.

Yes i know the indenting won't completely go away but i'm hoping to reduce the visibility as much as I can.

its annoying when the ping-pong you back and forth from doctor to doctor -___-

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Hi

So I just got back from the derma and he has suggested me a couple of options. He did right away caution me against Microdermabrasion or any other such "cosmetic procedures" because of a number of reasons. a) my skin is darker and apparently it could get more complicated b) my wedding is right around the corner so it's risky to try a new process right before c) any procedure has the risk of getting infected or complicated

He did however, after much persistence from my end give me a referral to another specialist/dermatologist that specialises in these cosmetic procedures. Said to go see her and seek advice. I will go consult with her tomorrow. It is a medic spa and i'm hoping a reputable clinic. Unfortunately for me they charge a $50 charge for consult.... not covered by my health plan :( Oh well. Will see what the upate is from that end.

He also gave me a 2nd option... to stop using the Benzaclin in the mornings but replace it with 2% clindamycin in Neostrata (something.... can't understand his writing). He said this is a milder version of a glycolic peel and should help with the scarring and marks. Anyone used this? Thoughts on this? He said to use this in the mornings and continue with the Retin-A cream at night.

Will see what the other specialist says tomorrow but i guess the backup plan is this new cream.

Yes i know the indenting won't completely go away but i'm hoping to reduce the visibility as much as I can.

its annoying when the ping-pong you back and forth from doctor to doctor -___-

And we're so desperate that we're willing to put up with it - anything to get results and solutions!!! Keeping my fingers crossed on this one.

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Hi I have had similar problems in the past dealing with acne scars particularly on my chin. I searched and searched for ways to make it go away and even the prescription I got from my dermatologist didn't quite to the trick. Finally, I discovered 2 products that are absolutely AMAZING!! The skin care line is called Artistry. They are one of the top 5 prestige brands in the world along with Estee Lauder, Clinque, Chanel, and Lancome. They sponsor the Miss America pageant and Sandra Bullock is a spokeswoman for them. Anyways, the two products are the Microdermabrasion kit (http://tinyurl.com/3v68rqd) paired with the Creme Luxury (http://tinyurl.com/3ll93ts). Everything is 180 day back guarantee so if it doesn't work, just send it back! I figured I'd give it a go and if it didn't work, I'd get my money back. This a a great testimonial. My friend's aunt installs custom kitchens and one day the vent fell and sliced open her face. She had to be rushed to emergency surgery and she was left with keloid type scarring. She thought she'd be scarred for the rest of her life, but she used luxury creme once the scar healed and 6 months later it was basically disappeared. I posted the pictures on my photobucket and below (http://tinyurl.com/3b8mg3j).

Sorry that was long but I do believe strongly in those products! Acne scars sucks!

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Does anyone know or think if the retin a makes the indents more prominent? I'm finding my good side is getting a bit worse than it was. I'm confused and worried!

The new thing that i've added to my routine is that I got V Beam laser done twice over the past month and half but that is to help reduce the redness shouldnt impact anything else?

Ideas?

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Idk. Retin-A thins out your outter skin layer, but thickens the lower (I think that's right anyways), so maybe the scars are looking more prominent because of that.

I just started dermarolling, and your'e supposed to use Retin-A at night and then a Vitamin C serum in the morning, because apparently those two used together encourage new collogen growth.

I'm not sure if they'll really do much of anything without the dermarolling, though.

Some people have great success with TCA cross.

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What baffles me is how some people got 90 percent improvement on their scars... While others cant gey 10.....

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Haven't used a Vitamin C serum - where do you get that from? Do you use anything else in the mornings or just retin A at night and vit c at night?

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Doc said they're ice pick scars - she seemed to have no treatment options for me other than to continue my v beam treatment for now to get rid of the redness. How can there be NO treatment for this?????????? :(

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