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I had fractional co2 laser 2 months ago and now I have more scars than I had before going in. I have lost all hope and am very depressed. Does anyone have any advice? I just wish this very expensive nightmare would end. PLEASE HELP!!!

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I had fractional co2 laser 2 months ago and now I have more scars than I had before going in. I have lost all hope and am very depressed. Does anyone have any advice? I just wish this very expensive nightmare would end. PLEASE HELP!!!

I had the same results. This site has more horror stories from lasers. On this site is a link to report your story to the FDA. Please do so, it will help them make an informed decision on this laser. Ask your doctor to make one also, which I doubt he will do, so make sure you do so your story is told

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I had the same results. This site has more horror stories from lasers. On this site is a link to report your story to the FDA. Please do so, it will help them make an informed decision on this laser. Ask your doctor to make one also, which I doubt he will do, so make sure you do so your story is told

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Up front I just want to say sorry this is so long but I hope you find some helpful stuff in it as I truly know how you feel.

Not sure if you're still checking this but I also had some pretty bad results from Co2 resurfacing last summer. I didn't have Fraxel Co2 but the traditional Co2 laser which is stronger. One doc suggested the fraxel one to me, but I had done fraxel restore a few years back with no results and then side effects started to appear around 6 months after the procedures (loss of fat and skin elasticity, enlarged pores, and some faint, but permanent, redness around my mouth). So, I was pretty much against anything fraxel and opted for the traditional Co2, which I told was suppose to reduce my scarring by 70%. Not even close! It may have shallowed a few scars but caused soo many more and lots and lots of other side effects, such as, more fat and elasticity loss and enlarged pores, hyper and hypo pigmentation, a weird burn scar look and texture in some areas, and orange peel texture and ridges in other areas. The texture of my skin was so bad I couldn't even really wear makeup because it looked horrible settling in the newly created lines and orange peel texture. I wanted to cry every time I saw my self I the mirror and hardly went out beside the obligatory work. And yes, it is so expensive. I hate to think of the thousands of dollars I could have used to take some trips, or pay off student loans, or so many other things.

I am much happier today though. About 5 months ago I started using a 1.5 mm derma roller and I started seeing some slow results. I did it every 3 weeks over a weekend. Sites might say it doesn't hurt, but they lie. It hurts badly, so I suggest some sort of topical numbing stuff so you won't avoid doing it because of the pain. Some places also say you don't need to push, also a lie. If you really have indented scars you're going to need to push, and its going to bleed. You want it to bleed so the scar tissue is broken up and there is injury to the area resulting in rehealing of the needled skin. But don't get too carried away. You don't want to push too hard or get too aggressive. You have to find the right balance, and it may take a couple times to figure that out. So derma rolling really does work if you want to go that route, but it is slow and pretty painful. I did rolling for about 3 months with some good results, defiantly noticeable, but nothing drastic.

However, a little over 2 months ago I switched to a slightly different method and I am so very impressed. I am now using a derma stamp once every 3-4 weeks depending on how aggressive I go. I have done it 3 times now and you would not believe the difference it makes in even just one stamping. It's not a miracle cure but my results are drastic after just three times. I can finally look at myself in the mirror again and I get excited when its time to stamp because I get to see my face start to become smoother after only a week and it seems to keep working for a few weeks after that at a slower rate.

The great thing about the stamp is that it's under $50, which is way cheap if you're comparing it to things like laser procedures. The one I buy is about $35 dollars after shipping. I'd replace it every 3 months or so, but you can tell when their getting dull. The stamp its self is about an inch by and inch with around 100 needles in it. The stamp I use has 1.8mm needles and that's the range I would suggest, 1.8mm or 2.0mm, no smaller no larger. You take the stamp and press it directly into your skin and do that between 10-20 times in each spot. I do my entire face which is a lot of stamping. Just sort of rotate it a little in each spot so you're hitting all areas under the stamp. When your done just rinse all the blood off your face with lukewarm water and pat dry, don't rub. It sounds kind of scary but it actually hurts a lot less than rolling, but it does still hurt and it bleeds a lot more. You can get by without numbing but it's very comfortable if you numb. It's best if you have a long weekend. If you did it Thursday night you would be normal by Monday. If that's not an option you could still do it Friday night you just might be a little red on Monday. If you're a woman makeup you could easily cover the redness with makeup, but don't use makeup before that. Don't put anything on you skin for the first 2 days unless it's like vitamin c or neosporin if you need moisture and use a really mild soap to wash your face, if not just water. Don't use lotion. After 2 or 3 days I go back to my normal skin routine but listen to your skin and be gentle. That's all there is to it, and of all the things I have tried (and I have tried a lot) it really works, and its cheap, and you can do it yourself very easily. You just have to be patient, but I promise you'll see results.

I don't know if you have any other side effects from your laser treatment besides it not working, but I have also done some other things to address the other damage the lasers have caused be my skin.

In addition to my stamping I have done a couple 15% tca peels to try and improve the size of my pores and texture of my skin. I'm not too big of a fan of tca peels because they make you feel pretty gross and there's about a week down time, but I need to do something to improve the smaller details of my skin and it seems to be working but its still pretty early. Be careful with tca though. People go way too strong, way too quick and damage their skin. If you're going to do peels start at 12% and work your way up and never go above 25%. Higher stuff is meant to be diluted or used for spot treatment (tca cross method). Absolutely don't pick, rub, or help it fall off in any way. There is a good chance you'll scar yourself or mess up the texture of your skin. If can't not pick, don't use tca.

I also had one IPL treatment done to help with the hyper pigmentation. It actually did a lot for that issue but I am hesitant to do more because it's still a laser and I really don't trust them, too many report of being burned, and fat loss. So, I am going to do as much as I can with the stamps and tca first and then see if I need more IPLs or pulsed dyed laser (IPL for brownish areas, PDL for permanent red splotches under the skin, and I'm not talking red spots from pimples, but permanent redness under your skin from laser damage, you know it if you have it and it never fades)

I also use a smaller stamp in conjunction with my other one. It's good if you just want to treat a couple scars, but I use it in hard to reach places like where my nose meets my face and between my eyes. Sometime I stamp the really bad scars a couple extra times with my little stamp as the needles are closer together on that one and break the skin up really well.

If you want to know the specific products I use they are as follows:

1.8mm scorpion derma stamp - It has the most needles that I have found on a stamp and the needles are thinner so they don't create as wide of punctures but still go as deep. Just search on google and you'll find them on ebay or amazon. It's gray in color.

Small derma stamp - don't know brand, but if you search derma stamps on ebay you'll find it. It's the only one that looks like it does. It's a clear-ish yellow plastic and has a rounded head. The seller I buy that from on ebay is JGlobalSales.

I buy my numbing solution from www.dr-roller.eu/ but make sure you get insured shipping. Its $5 more but it comes from some place in Asia and one time it never showed up and if I hadn't had it insured they weren't going to send more because the package wouldn't have been tracked. So, I buy a couple at a time to offset the extra shipping. I would say buy something else but this works well and it works pretty much instantly. Most all the stuff they sell here in the US are creams and you have to let them sit for 30 mins for it to work. Also, its expensive. If you're going to use the stuff I do, you will, however, need a roller. The needle length should be short (.25mm-.5mm) but any brand will do. Just get the cheapest one. You just need to roll it over your face once or twice and you don't need to push so it won't hurt. All you're doing is just barley breaking the skin so the solution is absorbed, as it is a liquid, and not a cream like most.

I buy my tca from makeup artist's choice and they also sell a green tea soap which is the mildest I have found. The soap works great for both peeling and for when you have stamped. Don't get too impressed with their pictures. They have some very exaggerated results that are far from likely.

Sorry this is such a tome, but I really hope this helps you, or anyone, out. I have done my homework and these are the things that have helped me the most. If you have any questions let me know, and I hope you're feeling better at this point!

Edited by hinbe25

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Try the IPL Laser Support group - many members on there experienced the same bad results but over time like a year there skin started to heal and improve -

Good luck I am trying to recover from a 15% TCA from a reputable plastic surgeon which left me with enlarged pores and orange peel texture skin been 2 months for me. I am giving my skin a full 6 months before I try anyother procedure.

Good Luck!

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