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Need some advice on whats happening to my face

Hi everyone.

Just like everyone else on these boards, I've researched millions of ways to diminish or soften the appearance of my pitted acne scars. I've searched these boards high and low, from beginning to end, from new to old and found many different ways, both interesting and scary, to help with my scarring.

My problem is this:

Everytime I wake up, I find a new "acne scar". It looks like a scarred pore or pock mark. Im not even exaggerating when I say every day. I find new ones on my face every single time I wake up. I find about 3 or 4 new ones. I've researched here and through google and found that its either probably hereditary or could be AMVC spontaneous scarring. I highly doubt though its AMVC b/c usually people who have AMVC don't have traces of acne. (i could be wrong) I notice overtime, that the ones I had before have started to get wider and deeper as time goes on. Im horrified of what my skin is going to look like 6 months to 10 years from now!

I dont know if its maybe b/c of the products im using or am i just prone to scarring all together? My mom has really bad acne scarring so Im assuming its hereditary but it just doesnt make sense to me b/c Im getting all these scars where I've never had acne before. Im so depressed over my skin condition. Its not even about the existing acne, its the scarring that its leaving behind.

I would go to a dermatologist and ask them but I dont have any insurance so for the mean time, any answer here would be helpful. Im pretty sure too if I go to a dermatologist, they're going to give some bullshit ass answer and prescribe me random stuff to use on my face or push me to try other treatments.

The products that Im using are:

2.5% benzoyl peroxide face scrub

2.5% salicylic acid toner

SPF 30 Sunscreen

8% mandelic acid

5% glycolic acid

5% benzoyl peroxide

Im not sure if the products im using are too harsh for my skin. I know that using mandelic acid and glycolic acid exfoliates the outer layer of the skin so maybe once that my skin has exfoliated, that the acne scars were underneath all of it? Im not sure.... can anybody give me an explanation or has any advice for me?

It would be greatly appreciated. I just need some clarity on this.

Thanks guys!

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Hey again...personally I would suggest you're putting wayyy too much on your face, that can't be good. Maybe your skin is giving off some kind of reaction towards the mixture of everything? If it is another more serious condition than you should still find a way to get over to a derm or skin specialist even if you feel they'll give you a bullshit answer. Better safe than sorry. It is definitely not normal to be getting scars in spots where you don't even have acne. I'd check that out. Good luck.

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Hey again...personally I would suggest you're putting wayyy too much on your face, that can't be good. Maybe your skin is giving off some kind of reaction towards the mixture of everything? If it is another more serious condition than you should still find a way to get over to a derm or skin specialist even if you feel they'll give you a bullshit answer. Better safe than sorry. It is definitely not normal to be getting scars in spots where you don't even have acne. I'd check that out. Good luck.

Hey again too. Well I actually go this clinic that specializes in acne and they have a high success rate in dealing with their clients. The things im using are prescribed for my skin type to help control the acne. I'll admit that their products have reduced alot of my acne but I do still have alot of non inflamed acne.

I would go to a derm but like i said i dont have insurance and cant really afford to see one for the time being cuz than i would be paying out of pocket. thanks tho for the reply.

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Hey again...personally I would suggest you're putting wayyy too much on your face, that can't be good. Maybe your skin is giving off some kind of reaction towards the mixture of everything? If it is another more serious condition than you should still find a way to get over to a derm or skin specialist even if you feel they'll give you a bullshit answer. Better safe than sorry. It is definitely not normal to be getting scars in spots where you don't even have acne. I'd check that out. Good luck.

Hey again too. Well I actually go this clinic that specializes in acne and they have a high success rate in dealing with their clients. The things im using are prescribed for my skin type to help control the acne. I'll admit that their products have reduced alot of my acne but I do still have alot of non inflamed acne.

I would go to a derm but like i said i dont have insurance and cant really afford to see one for the time being cuz than i would be paying out of pocket. thanks tho for the reply.

hey, the thing i couldnt help but notice is - you dont seem to be giving anything back to your skin. you are applying all of these acidic substances and in return you are simply giving it sunscreen? lol. if you are scarring out of nowhere, it might be a sign your skin is too dry.

i dont see anything too wrong with your skincare system - except i would get rid of either the mandelic or glycolic acid - you dont need them both. you could also perhaps drop the BP from 5% to 2.5%. you should also look into a good moisturiser, aloe vera or vitamin c serum...

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I have the same problem and know exactly how you feel :(. I do notice I don't get spontaneous scarring nearly as often when I do wear moisturizer. So "gimmie" is on the right track. &I totally agree with "NeverPaysAttention", you are using way too much on your face. It's all acidic, which is kind of like you're doing a light chemical peel on your face every day. That is NOT good for your skin and can cause scarring. Even if it didn't cause scarring, it can cause thinning of the skin &is just way harsh.

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Hi sapphire and gimme gimme,

Well i havent been using the glycolic or mandelic for the past 2 weeks and im noticing that Im STILL getting all these indents on my face. I also do use a moisturizer (i forgot to mention that) but its a water based one. Kind of like a gel like consistency. Not really a cream or lotion.

Other than that, i still dont know whats going on with my skin... i wish someone had an answer... :sick:

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Hi sapphire and gimme gimme,

Well i havent been using the glycolic or mandelic for the past 2 weeks and im noticing that Im STILL getting all these indents on my face. I also do use a moisturizer (i forgot to mention that) but its a water based one. Kind of like a gel like consistency. Not really a cream or lotion.

Other than that, i still dont know whats going on with my skin... i wish someone had an answer... :sick:

im not too sure what to say to you. it might be a sign your skin still isnt moisturised enough, or it might take time to rebuild itself. in all honesty though, its unlikely you will find an answer.

most users on here dont tend to go out of their way to help people unless it directly affects them *kabang!*

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whoah! I have a very similar situation as you except i dont get new indents as often. It seems i am getting indents in areas where i do not have zits.

The ironic thing is, i have gotten indents in these areas even if i never used products (maybe i used BP to spot treat acne NEAR It but thats it).

Can any of the following products cause scarring?

1) bp 2.5 % acne.org

2) jojoba oil desert essence

3)acne.org moisturizer

I know it sounds ridiculous but i have NO IDEA where im getting these scars. I dont really use peels (only exfoliate with jojoba oil, does that count as one?)

Hereditary scarring? I never heard of anyone being prone to RANDOM SCARRING (other than AMVC, and like you said, most amvc suffers according to that one website do not have acne lesions).

To be honest, i just stopped looking at my face in all angles to see if i get more scars (although i looked a week ago and noticed new ones...).

Depressing situation if you ask me

whoah! I have a very similar situation as you except i dont get new indents as often. It seems i am getting indents in areas where i do not have zits.

The ironic thing is, i have gotten indents in these areas even if i never used products (maybe i used BP to spot treat acne NEAR It but thats it).

Can any of the following products cause scarring?

1) bp 2.5 % acne.org

2) jojoba oil desert essence

3)acne.org moisturizer

I know it sounds ridiculous but i have NO IDEA where im getting these scars. I dont really use peels (only exfoliate with jojoba oil, does that count as one?)

Hereditary scarring? I never heard of anyone being prone to RANDOM SCARRING (other than AMVC, and like you said, most amvc suffers according to that one website do not have acne lesions).

To be honest, i just stopped looking at my face in all angles to see if i get more scars (although i looked a week ago and noticed new ones...).

Depressing situation if you ask me

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Hi sapphire and gimme gimme,

Well i havent been using the glycolic or mandelic for the past 2 weeks and im noticing that Im STILL getting all these indents on my face. I also do use a moisturizer (i forgot to mention that) but its a water based one. Kind of like a gel like consistency. Not really a cream or lotion.

Other than that, i still dont know whats going on with my skin... i wish someone had an answer... :sick:

Yeah, I was using Complex 15 moisturizer for awhile; it's watery and gel-like. I noticed random scarred pores while using it. I started using a cream and they don't come nearly as often. Honestly moisturizers like Complex 15 will do nothing for your skin in terms of moisturizing it. I also personally wouldn't recommend Jojoba oil - it made my skin worse. It seems to work for other people, yeah people that don't have this spontaneous scarring crap. I would really try something that actually moisturizes if I were you. I don't think it'd hurt; I think it'd help.

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Hi sapphire and gimme gimme,

Well i havent been using the glycolic or mandelic for the past 2 weeks and im noticing that Im STILL getting all these indents on my face. I also do use a moisturizer (i forgot to mention that) but its a water based one. Kind of like a gel like consistency. Not really a cream or lotion.

Other than that, i still dont know whats going on with my skin... i wish someone had an answer... :sick:

Yeah, I was using Complex 15 moisturizer for awhile; it's watery and gel-like. I noticed random scarred pores while using it. I started using a cream and they don't come nearly as often. Honestly moisturizers like Complex 15 will do nothing for your skin in terms of moisturizing it. I also personally wouldn't recommend Jojoba oil - it made my skin worse. It seems to work for other people, yeah people that don't have this spontaneous scarring crap. I would really try something that actually moisturizes if I were you. I don't think it'd hurt; I think it'd help.

hey sapphire lily, would you reccomend the acne.org moisturizer? ive been on the regimen and it has not caused me to break out i think (same with jojoba oil). Just curious, but why would you not reccomend the jojoba oil? It seems if i do not use it, i will get massive flaky/dry skin from the benzoyl peroxide. What "real" moisturizers would you reccomend using that cant scar pores or that actually do moisturize the skin?

This is so fucking frustrating.

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hey sapphire lily, would you reccomend the acne.org moisturizer? ive been on the regimen and it has not caused me to break out i think (same with jojoba oil). Just curious, but why would you not reccomend the jojoba oil? It seems if i do not use it, i will get massive flaky/dry skin from the benzoyl peroxide. What "real" moisturizers would you reccomend using that cant scar pores or that actually do moisturize the skin?

This is so fucking frustrating.

I've never tried the acne.org moisturizer so I wouldn't know. I also can't recommend a certain moisturizer because I'm still trying to find a good one. I'm using Korres Yogurt Cream right now and have really liked it but I'm also noticing a few clogged-pores (NOT a surprised because EVERYTHING clogs my pores); I don't know if it's from something else or the actual moisturizer. The reason why I don't recommend Jojoba Oil is because although at first I thought it was moisturizing, I started noticing oily but scaly skin. Then noticed my pores were scarring more often again. I did some more research and found this particular study: http://www.nature.com/jidsp/journal/v10/n3...l/5640230a.html I sometimes treat my skin (the random scarring and everything) like I have Seborrheic Dermatitis just because it's better to be gentle with it as if I had that condition. Jojoba Oil contains approximately 10% of Oleic acid. The more Oleic acid present on the skin the more harm it causes to the region; this then encourages an inflammatory response causing skin flaking (which is what I started getting) and over production of sebum which is what Malassezia fungus loves feeding on - thus a vicious circile is created.

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ironically, i actually suffer with seborrheic dermatitis. Wait so jojoba oil can give you more seborrheic dermatitis?

I am a bit confused because i am not sure if jojoba oil is doing wonders for me, or the opposite. I just get flaky/scaly skin, but i realized i got this even before i used jojoba oil, the benzoyl peroxide on the acne.org regimen gives me this type of skin.

do you know of any other good oils other than jojoba oil that wont scar the pores?

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Hello i was reading your post and i seen what you had listed for your face of what you are take 2.5% benzoyl peroxide face scrub

2.5% salicylic acid toner

SPF 30 Sunscreen

8% mandelic acid

5% glycolic acid

5% benzoyl peroxide

Thats a lot of stuff your using for your face my skin would had fell the hell off if i used all that and i think using both 8% mandelic acid and 5% glycolic acid cant be a good thing for your face i do like everything esle you use tho. and what type of acne skin do you have?

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Hi there,

I agree with some of the comments. I think that all the chemicals combined might have thinned out your skin and therefore are causing scarring. I would just pick one acidic item ( either BP, glycolic, or other) and stick with that for acne control. I assume it would take a while for your skin to stabilize so I am not surprised that you might be still scarring after discontinuing products for two weeks.

Other things I might suggest:

An antihistamine: Maybe claritin, benadyl etc to calm down any reaction / inflamatory response.

Zinc and vitamin C --- stay clear of Omega 3.

Gentle cleanser --- A derm recomended this cleanser called Cereva. Similar to cetaphil, it is really gentle. I would discontinue the scrub or use it just once or twice a week. I think a scrub is too harsh for twice a day.

I'm still looking for a good moisturizer so I have no suggestions here.

I think the key is to be really gentle with your skin for now.

I assume the scarring will resolve or go back to normal once the skin heals, since there is no underlying lession...

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Guest Zapotee

I have read , in this forum, I believe - that Omega 3 might *might* contribute to inflamatory skin responses for those with "spontaneous scarring". I don't take it as a preventive measure :)

I might be wrong thought. if so, please disregard.

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