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HYPOTHYROIDISM: Is there someone who is familiar with it? Know of natural treatments?

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Most of you remember me. I've been on a gluten-free diet for 8 months now and my acne has lessened, but not completely cleared.

While digging for the cause of my acne, I noticed that I have 90% of the symptoms for hypothyroidism. I just read that it can cause acne on the scalp and face (I have both!). I already took a blood test for hypothyroidism. Everything was "normal," but I just read that the blood test is notoriously inaccurate and only able to detect "extreme" thyroid problems. :rolleyes:

One of my parents also has all of the symptoms for hypothyroidism -- even the goiter swelling on the throat.

These are the hypothyroid symptoms that I have:

Fatigue

Fatigue from goitrogenic foods: wheat, corn, soy & foods in the mustard family (DEFINITELY!)

Hypochlorhydria (too little stomach acid)

Feeling cold/chilly or cold in a "normal" room

Seborrhea (oily, flakey skin on face/scalp/body)

Course, brittle hair

Hair loss

Difficulty sweating even when doing exercise or in hot weather (I NEVER sweat!)

Salt craving

Low blood pressure (I can almost faint sometimes)

Celiac Disease or Diabetes Type 1 runs in the family

Cold hands and feet (terribly so!)

Falling asleep during the day

Acne in face and in hair

Swollen lymph glands (they are swollen and always sore)

Interestingly: I am thin and not overweight.

My parent already went to the doctor about the goiter swelling on their throat but when the doctor looked at it he said he didn't know anything about goiter or hypothyroidism but didn't bother to even write out a referral to a specialist. :rolleyes: So we're left with all these questions.

So, is there anyone here who is familiar with hypothyroidism and who might know of the natural treatments? I'd like to do them to see if my symptoms improve.

Any ideas?

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Summary of the last few years:

  • 3 years ago, I discovered that avoiding traditional protein sources (meat, eggs, dairy, legumes, seeds, nuts, soy, beans, etc.) stopped my acne. I did very well on a very-low protein diet and thought I had found the cause of my cystic acne.
  • 1 year ago, I then discovered that I had hypochlorhydria (too little stomach acid) and began taking HCL pills when I ate protein which allowed me to digest protein almost perfectly.
  • 8 months ago diagnosed with Celiac Disease and have followed a strict gluten-free diet. My acne/hypochlorhydria improves a little but it is not cured.
  • 6 months ago I noticed that my food sensitivities had worsened: Not only could I not digest protein properly, I also began getting cystic acne when I ate onion, garlic, mango. Even worse, my sensitivities now include all legumes, onion, garlic (causing diarrhea). Last week I began to get diarrhea on avocado. Realization: My body is developing more sensitivities very rapidly. I must find the underlying problem.
  • 2 months ago, I met a nutritionist who said that until I find my underlying health problem causing the sensitivities and symptoms, I need to start a 3 day rotational diet. She said she has seen some people who eventually become sensitive to all foods. Eek!
  • Last two months: I'm on a 3-day rotational diet. I'm trying to find the cause behind my escalating sensitivities. I suspect it might be hypothyroidism?

Any help would be appreciated!

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Here's what I've found on thyroid function:

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...t&p=2592507:

Good things for proper functioning Thyroid

The thyroid is a gland in the Endocrine system. The thyroid controls how quickly the body burns energy (w/ a role in glucose metabolism), makes proteins, and how sensitive the body should be to other hormones. It does this by producing thyroid hormones. Both hypo (overactive) and hyper (underactive) thyroid affects acne/is correlated with acne. Hypothyroid sufferers have low SHBG levels, inflammation. TSH, thyroid stimulating hormone can be inhibited by testosterone and estrogen.

Nutrients needed for thyroid hormone production:

Zinc

Iodine

Magnesium

Copper

Manganese

Molybdenum

Vitamins B2, 3 6

Other important and/or beneficial things:

Adrenal health See Adrenal Function section.

Manage Stress

Coconut Oil? See http://www.coconutdiet.com/thyroid_health.htm and decide for yourself.

Iron

Antioxidants including:

Beta carotene

Vitamin A

Vitamin E

One study on Green Tea found it increases Thyroid hormone:

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...t&p=2212988

Avoid or limit:

Flouride

Polyunsaturated Vegetable oils (block secretion of thyroid hormone? Source isn't 100% reliable.

Products from grain fed animals (for the above reason and due to the gluten)

Gluten -

Goitrogens (limit, cook, pair with iodine sources as many are among the most nutrient dense foods, i.e. brassicas. and should not be avoided)

Omega 6 EFAs - (limit) Suppresses thyroid hormone function.

Soy - see above link on omega 6.

The Thyroid Diet http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Thyroid_Diet

several known causes for [hypothyroidism]:

* imbalance of cortisol levels due to adrenal stress

* insulin resistance (hypothyrodism can also contribute to insulin resistance)

* estrogen/progesterone imbalances

* genetic predisposition

* poor nutrition

* autoimmune response (Hashimoto’s thyroiditis and Graves disease)

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Something you might want to look into. Somewhere in this ZAG enzyme thread there was something that implied that mucin containing plant foods (like okra, cactus, malabar spinach) helped restore the mucin lining in your stomach/intestinal tract.

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/ZAG-enzyme-t247794.html

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Thank you for all the information, Alternavista!!

I'm also wondering if anyone is familiar with health problems that have all the symptoms of hypothyroidism... but is something different?

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You need to get Free T3, Free t4, reverse TSH, and thyroid antibodies tested to get the whole picture.

I am borderline hypothyroid with all of the symptoms but not outside of the test ranges. You need to find a doc experienced in functional medicine to help treat you if you suspect it's your thyroid. Most docs go by numbers only, but there are some good ones out there. Check out the book "Stop the Thyroid Madness" if you want more info; I found it very helpful.

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You need to get Free T3, Free t4, reverse TSH, and thyroid antibodies tested to get the whole picture.

I am borderline hypothyroid with all of the symptoms but not outside of the test ranges.

That's what I think I am too. I'm in the normal range, but that doesn't mean levels are right for me. The few doctors that specialize in this, say thyroid issues are one of the most under-diagnosed conditions.

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My symptoms:

Rosacea and a variaty of Acne in face

Cold hands and feet, chillblains since 7 years old

Dry eyes (only right side... wt?)

Fatigue

Fatigue from goitrogenic foods: wheat, corn

Hypochlorhydria (too little stomach acid) (I now take ACV to assist with digestion)

Feeling cold/chilly or cold in a "normal" room

Course, brittle hair

Hair loss

Salt craving

Low blood pressure (I can almost faint sometimes) (sometimes high 80s over high 50s)

Gluten a big no no

Falling asleep during the day (and this is so easy to do when you sit behind a pc the whole day)

What frustrated me most was that despite all of my symptoms, all my tests came back "normal" according to the docters... sigh... so.... I have googled natural cures for thyroid issues, and Iodine stands out so much, so I started reading a lot more on Iodine. This is really interesting reading.

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Hi! I have also had blood tests done for hypothyroidism! I've done two so far, and both say I have a low thyroid. I'm going to have it looked at Monday by another doctor who will hopefully have some answers as to how I can fix this.

I have:

Cold feet and hands

Acne (duh)

Hair loss. UGH.

fatigue

random insomnia, and some nights I can sleep for ten hours and still be tired.

Very dry skin on face, and on lips.

I'm also starting on a gluten free diet as of today. :)

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Instead of going and getting all the blood work ($$$$), I've decided to just treat my body as if it is hypothyroid for a few weeks and see if the natural treatments make a difference.

After researching, these look like the best treatments:

Selenium 200mcg per day

Tyrosine (500 mg twice a day)

Foods rich in iodine like kelp, seaweed -- natural sources

If these appear to help, I'll try more treatments. I'll include a B-vitamin supplement like many pages suggest.

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Concerning FATIGUE:

I must avoid the goitrogenic foods 100%. Even the tiniest taste makes me fatigued the next day. These foods are wheat, corn, soy, canola oil or the mustard family (broccoli, cauliflower, etc).

Avoiding those foods improved my symptoms (Fatigue) by nearly 80%.

I read that avocados boost thyroid function so I eat as many as I want :).

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Does anyone notice if chapped or dry lips are a symptom?

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If anyone has chronic low-body temperature (typically below 97.8.), I would suggest looking into Wilson's Syndrome.

It has all the symptoms of hypothyroidism, but the body always stays a little below the normal temperature. The metabolism also slows down in stages over time.

It usually appears in early life, worsens gradually and can be triggered by an injury, stress of illness or emotional trauma.

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Instead of going and getting all the blood work ($$$$), I've decided to just treat my body as if it is hypothyroid for a few weeks and see if the natural treatments make a difference.

After researching, these look like the best treatments:

Selenium 200mcg per day

Tyrosine (500 mg twice a day)

Foods rich in iodine like kelp, seaweed -- natural sources

You should consume or supplement all the nutrients needed for thyroid hormone production and thyroid and adrenal function. Why would you add them only if the few you picked out helped? Maybe they won't help due to a deficiency in something else that's crucial.

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You should consume or supplement all the nutrients needed for thyroid hormone production and thyroid and adrenal function. Why would you add them only if the few you picked out helped? Maybe they won't help due to a deficiency in something else that's crucial.

Okay, good idea.

Does anyone know of anyone who has cleared their acne by treating their hypothyroidism?

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Does anyone know of anyone who has cleared their acne by treating their hypothyroidism?

Worth the try, wont you say? :)

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Does anyone know of anyone who has cleared their acne by treating their hypothyroidism?

Worth the try, wont you say? :)

Definitely. I'm just curious of how many others have found that hypothyroidism was the cause of their acne.

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I think I have a very severe case of hypothyroidism because I can't even TOUCH a BITE of goitrogenic foods (broccoli, kale, cauliflower, etc). It doesn't even matter if the food is cooked or not, one bite knocks me out for 2 days. Same with soy and gluten.

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Dotty, I really suggest seeing a better doc and getting the full thyroid panel done. If you have Celiac, you could very well have Hashimoto's in which case your thyroid may have been destroyed to the point where you need meds to recuperate. If your gut is damaged your thyroid will likely get even more out of whack, and your thyroid being out of whack can lead to more gut damage! Check this article here for more info:

http://thehealthyskeptic.org/the-thyroid-gut-connection

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Dotty, I really suggest seeing a better doc and getting the full thyroid panel done. If you have Celiac, you could very well have Hashimoto's in which case your thyroid may have been destroyed to the point where you need meds to recuperate. If your gut is damaged your thyroid will likely get even more out of whack, and your thyroid being out of whack can lead to more gut damage! Check this article here for more info:

http://thehealthyskeptic.org/the-thyroid-gut-connection

Thank you, Quirky! After reading about Hashimoto's, it sounds like my parent definitely has it. So that probably means I have it or will have it.

I just went to the bookstore and read several books on hypothyroidism. I thought I'd share some of the info I remember. I didn't see this info on any web pages. So here it is:

More Common indicators of hypothyroidism:

Getting grey hair early

Cysts or lumps in the armpit, groin or leg areas

"Day dreaming" as a child/teenager

Having TONS of energy or even hyper until early 20's

Carpal Tunnel & IBS are signs of hypothyroidism

Hypothyroidism & Pregnancy

-- Women who become pregnant and who are not treated for hypothyroidism tend to have babies born with lower than normal IQs.

And avoiding fluoridated water/toothpastes and fluoridated dental treatments is very important because fluoride shuts off the thyroid.

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Dotty, I really suggest seeing a better doc and getting the full thyroid panel done. If you have Celiac, you could very well have Hashimoto's in which case your thyroid may have been destroyed to the point where you need meds to recuperate. If your gut is damaged your thyroid will likely get even more out of whack, and your thyroid being out of whack can lead to more gut damage! Check this article here for more info:

http://thehealthyskeptic.org/the-thyroid-gut-connection

Thank you, Quirky! After reading about Hashimoto's, it sounds like my parent definitely has it. So that probably means I have it or will have it.

I just went to the bookstore and read several books on hypothyroidism. I thought I'd share some of the info I remember. I didn't see this info on any web pages. So here it is:

Common indicators of hypothyroidism:

Getting grey hair early

Cysts or lumps in the armpit, groin or leg areas

"Day dreaming" as a child/teenager

Having TONS of energy or even hyper until early 20's

Carpal Tunnel & IBS are signs of hypothyroidism

Hypothyroidism & Pregnancy

-- Women who become pregnant and who are not treated for hypothyroidism tend to have babies born with lower than normal IQs.

And avoiding fluoridated water/toothpastes and fluoridated dental treatments is very important because fluoride shuts off the thyroid.

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Be aware that your circadian cycle affects thyroid hormone production. Get out into the light and get regular, adequate sleep.

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More symptoms I found in books about hypothyroidism. Amazingly, I have many of them.

- Usually have a slow pulse rate (40-70 beats per minute)

- Not uncommon to notice chest pain (may be confused with angina) or shortness of breath during exertion

- Swollen feet or legs

- Depression, paranoia and hallucinations

- Fingernails are brittle and have lines and grooves

- Aching joints (confused with early arthritis)

- Frequently feel numbness, "pins & needle" feelings, legs falling asleep

- Coarse skin, flakes when you scratch it

- Cracking skin - Elbows, feet, fingertips

- Skin develops yellow hue as hypothyroidism worsens.

- They may appear pale or blue

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Indeed, it's super frustrating that in general, GPs and even some Naturopaths will dismiss any thyroid problems if you are within range. It should be obvious that if you are on the high or low side of the range you could be suffering from a near full list of symptoms. Trying to self diagnose is also frustrating as there's often many contradictions.. for example I also suffer from the near full range of symptoms, yet I am quite thin, and have a very hard time keeping weight on, despite eating constantly.

From my tests, my Naturopath determined that I have a 'slightly sluggish thyroid' and I am currently taking a support supplement called BMR Complex by Integrative Therapeutics

Ingredients:

-Iodine (from kelp)

-Zinc Picolinate

-Copper

-L-Tyrosine

-Thyroid (thyroxine free)

-Blue Flag Root

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Indeed, it's super frustrating that in general, GPs and even some Naturopaths will dismiss any thyroid problems if you are within range. It should be obvious that if you are on the high or low side of the range you could be suffering from a near full list of symptoms. Trying to self diagnose is also frustrating as there's often many contradictions.. for example I also suffer from the near full range of symptoms, yet I am quite thin, and have a very hard time keeping weight on, despite eating constantly.

From my tests, my Naturopath determined that I have a 'slightly sluggish thyroid' and I am currently taking a support supplement called BMR Complex by Integrative Therapeutics

Ingredients:

-Iodine (from kelp)

-Zinc Picolinate

-Copper

-L-Tyrosine

-Thyroid (thyroxine free)

-Blue Flag Root

After researching hypothyroidism for several days, I've learned that being overweight isn't a required symptom. Many posters on thyroid forums are also thin. I'm one of them - I'm 95 lbs.

If you can't keep weight on, have you checked yourself for Celiac Disease? I just finished reading that it is common to have thyroid problems AND Celiac Disease. You don't have to have any of the typical Celiac symptoms. 90% of Celiac patients are asymptomatic. I hardly had any symptoms at all.

The 300 symptoms of Celiac Disease:

http://glutenfreeworks.com/gluten-disorder.../symptom-guide/

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