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I'm sick of this regimen :(

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Hi guys,

Ok seriously, I have been using this regimen for 2 years now.

The result is : it works. It really works especially against inflammatory acne, it cleared totally my face.

But I m facing another terrible problem with this regimen : I'm sick of it.

I'm sick of spending minutes and minutes waiting for the products to penetrate the skin, then going for the next step.

I'm sick, at the age of 25, of destroying most of my shirts and not knowing if a new shirt / suit will or will not be destroyed by the bleach.

I'm sick at having throat itchyness EVERY TIME I use benzoyl peroxyd. It itches lightly, but it still itches.

I'm like "commited" to this treatment now. Like dependant. It's socially awkward... When I went to bed with my ex girlfriend I had to explain that I needed to do this, and she would understand at first but went mad when seeing her sheets. And about the time spent in the bathroom.

When I don't do it I feel stressed because I don't want to get spots.

And the point is : will I be doing this ALL my life ? It s not possible. It's a disastrous waste of time. Nobody got acne past 25 like years ago... Why should it comes back stronger now ?

Do anyone feel like me ?

Thanks :boohoo:

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I totally am with you. My skin is soooo flaky.

I am sick of it. My skin is red in some areas too, and the BP seemed to burn a little portion of skin right by the side of my mouth and it looks like I have a coldsore. It looks too big to be a coldsore. That's the problem. Ugh. I am getting sick of this regimen. Do you have any plans of what you would use if you went off the regimen? I seem to break out if I go off the BP. :(

I am so paranoid that if I don't do the regimen, I will break out.

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same thing happened to me i got sick of all the side effects so i went all natural meaning a natural cleanse and moisturizer and thats it for external and internal is just important i drink a minimum of 5 bottles of water day, Take 1 mult vitamen a day which really helps with acne and your body in general, Eat less sugar and more veggies and stay active the less time you think about your acne and your face the less stressed out you will get and that means less acne, And best of all about being all natural is you dont have FLAKY DRY SKIN ! god i hated that. Any ways of course going natural probably wont get rid of you acne completly but it minimizes it alot !

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I'd rather spend a little time for myself in the morning and night to get nice skin. I can understand how time consuming you feel it is, but maybe that's because you forgot what it feels like to really have an acne problem. Most people with acne will put in that extra time to get clear skin. And in the long run, for some, the regimen is cheaper and easier to do instead of trips back and forth to the dermatologist.

I definitely won't be doing the regimen the rest of my life. I'll stop once I feel like I should. Right now, I know that if I stop I'll get acne again. Why I think that is because my brother and I have the same exact skin type and he's still struggling with breakouts at age 24.

If you're really concerned about breakouts when quitting the regimen, why not go down to using once a day or once every other day?

I usually wear low cut shirts so the bleaching doesn't really effect me. I'm assuming you're a guy..so low cut shirts may or may not be an option for you hahaha.

It's a shame your exgirlfriend got so pissed about her sheets being bleached. I normally do the regimen in front of my boyfriend, I don't give a shit what he thinks. Why were you locking yourself in the bathroom when doing the regimen? When I first got to know my boyfriend and he saw me putting "all that stuff on my face", I just told him that I do it to prevent acne and he just says I have good skin so I must be doing something right. There's a little more time concerning the steps of the regimen, but using proactiv and other creams and washes and toners and shit take time to put on too.

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oops posted twice :D

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Ugh, I hate it too. No matter how much jojoba oil and moisturizer I use, my skin is so tight. After I take a shower, and my face starts to dry, it immediately starts getting dry and will crack/flake if I even open my mouth. I have to put jojoba oil on my face within minutes of exiting a shower/pool.

Then, it makes your skin look oily when you put the jojoba oil/BP/moisturizer on, especially the jojoba oil, since I have to use a lot to avoid having extremely dry skin. The regimen works all right, but it just gives you other problems. It's comparable to Accutane: yeah, it works well, but it sucks.

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yea ive been on the regimen for about 9 days now and it does suck. I mean BP has always cleared active pimples, so i am sure this regimen would keep me clear but i just fucking hate having dry skin with flakes.. Especially since i have so much PIH and seborrheic dermatitis, just makes everything look worse.

But i think i will stick to the regimen and if it does work as well as people say it does, i will probably use it until i grow out of acne.

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I hope you are still online, because I really want to know what you think of my idea. I just wanted to share with you that there is a diet secret i (finally) discovered (after trying expensive, drying, habit-forming solutions including Proactiv and birth control pills) but this diet secret will heal your acne from the inside pretty quickly, without the need for any special, expensive, habit-forming, drying soap, gel, cleanser, etc. I only wash my face with pure, unfiltered, low mineral water now, but could use rose water or pure, natural cucumber juice from fresh cucumbers, with only downward motions (important, as upward motinos stir up the bacteria) and then use a little coconut oil afterward to finish deep cleaning, sunscreen and moisturize. Facial yoga is also good, in which you take a deep breath, open your eyes wide (could look from side to side for eye exercise) and then exhale after about 30-40 seconds. The other one is to take a deep breath, stretch your eyes open, and then stick your tongue out as far as it will go, exhaling again after about 30-40 seconds. Try it! It's great!

Now (finally, finally) my skin has that perfectly moisturized glow I always wanted, and my nose has completely STOPPED SHINING, even in the humid New York City summers! Woo hoo!

OK! The diet secret is that SUGAR/CARBS (ANY KIND, WHETHER FRUIT, PROCESSED, HONEY OR OTHER CARBS SUCH AS BREAD AND CEREALS) + FATS (GOOD OR BAD), WHEN EATEN WITHIN A SHORT TIME FRAME OF EACH OTHER, = ACNE.

That's basically it. I start my mornings with a little water (1/2 cup with 1 teaspoon black seed powder and 1 teaspoon raw (must say "unheated") unfiltered honey, then follow 30 minutes later with a tall glass of water, then 30 minutes later end with either 5 to 10 Khadrawi dates (with safe, naturally sugar!) or sometimes spelled Khudari dates (the finest are at www.tomoor.com), and the vital cucumber to balance the sugars.

I try to drink water in between, either 2 hours after or 30 minutes before any food.

Lunch might be even 15 little Khadrawi or Khudari dates with a cucumber, or an apple with a cucumber, or a few blueberries with a cucumber, or even 1 peach or 1/2 cantaloupe (still not sure if the cantaloupe is safe) then with either another cucumber or some celery. (All other vegetables, tomatoes, peppers, squash contain acids you might be sensitive to and also anti-nutrients as in the case of spinach and other dark leafy greens. I use only iceberg variety of lettuce, and it's great at night after my meat.

Which brings me to dinner:

1 teaspoon olive oil OR blackseed oil, followed a few minutes later by either grassfed beef or bison or halal lamb or goat or free range duck very lightly cooked, with no salt or seaweed or vinegar or harsh lemon juice or spices (your tastebuds will recover and start to enjoy the wonderful natural flavor of these foods in their natural state, as many, including myself, have reported). Salt causes wrinkles and dark circles and serious blood pressure/heart problems as well as acne.

Of course, I also try to remain happy and confident of getting clear soon, get at least 25 minutes of sunshine and exercise every day, and 6-8 hours of peaceful sleep.

Please, please let me know if this was helpful at all. I have suffered and really just wanted to help someone else in the same frustrating situation i used to be in. My e-mail is RoxyJeanne@yahoo.com.

Thanks, and take it easy!

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Believe me, I understand where you're coming from. I've stopped using BP during the day entirely (something 3+ years on the regimen empowered me to do in the first place), which eliminates the shirt-bleaching issue. Stick to white bedding. If you're worried about wasting time, wean yourself off a mirror and read or watch something interesting while applying your BP and moisturize. Or read through some online dating profiles in search of a more understanding girlfriend. (I often just take the opportunity to slow down for a few minutes after a hectic day.)

We have to accept acne for what it can be (and often is) - a chronic affliction that requires dedicated and persistent treatment to combat. The regimen is a commitment, but consider how fortunate you are to have found an acne-fighting method successful for you. Chances are you will reach an age when the regimen is no longer necessary, but if you don't, try to remember how much worse it could be.

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hey than, do you use a moisturizer after you apply your BP?

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I had an acute acne problem. Then I found this site from Dan. So I tried his regimen for a month. My face was quite a bit clearer but I still can feel the pimples.

Then I went to a facial spa to get advice from the REAL EXPERT.

This is what I was told:

Dan's regimen dries the outer layer of the skin. White and black heads are still under the dead skin layer. Bacterias are living happily on your face. But the dead dried outer layer skin gives the impression that the face is free of acne.

The REAL EXPERT than suggested me to do a facial detox to remove the dead skin. Then a skin extraction, then a normal facial wash, after that apply some anticeptic lotion.

My regimen now is only to do a normal facial wash and apply aticeptic lotion. Only after two weeks, my skin is clear. I only have some pigmentations.

The main cause of acnes are bacterias. They live in the pores. They need to be extracted by hand. Antibiotics, accutane or Dan's stupid regimen cannot kill bacterias. Dan's regimen must be removed from the web. It's causing a lot of acne sufferers to suffer even more.

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Ok, first of all how dare you coming here and saying things like "dans stupid regimen", or "dans regimen must be removed from web", do you have any respect for people?

Number two, "Bacterias are living happily on your face. But the dead dried outer layer skin gives the impression that the face is free of acne." -no offence but this is the most stupid thing I ever heard, if the bacterias are living happy on face then they would definitely attack your clogged pores and that must be visible, thats in their nature, they are feeding with sebum, dirt and stuff like that.

"They live in the pores. They need to be extracted by hand" -hahahahaha how can you extract them with bare hands if they are invisible to our eyes, HOW???

Anddddddd, if you didnt know, all people on our planet have bacteria, but problem occures when our body makes "good" enviroment for them, like clogged pores.

And next time when you decide to insult someone, first read few things about acne, or our body in general.

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I had an acute acne problem. Then I found this site from Dan. So I tried his regimen for a month. My face was quite a bit clearer but I still can feel the pimples.

Then I went to a facial spa to get advice from the REAL EXPERT.

This is what I was told:

Dan's regimen dries the outer layer of the skin. White and black heads are still under the dead skin layer. Bacterias are living happily on your face. But the dead dried outer layer skin gives the impression that the face is free of acne.

The REAL EXPERT than suggested me to do a facial detox to remove the dead skin. Then a skin extraction, then a normal facial wash, after that apply some anticeptic lotion.

My regimen now is only to do a normal facial wash and apply aticeptic lotion. Only after two weeks, my skin is clear. I only have some pigmentations.

The main cause of acnes are bacterias. They live in the pores. They need to be extracted by hand. Antibiotics, accutane or Dan's stupid regimen cannot kill bacterias. Dan's regimen must be removed from the web. It's causing a lot of acne sufferers to suffer even more.

okay first of all dont say dan isnt an expert he's pretty much prefected a regimen of his own that works for hundreds of people and has done years of research on this, and probably knows way more then you

second its not dans fault that the regimen didnt work for you its your own skins fault dont try and blame other people

third you can not remove bacteria by hand dumbass, theyre microscopic, not little bugs you can just pluck off your face, did the REAL EXPERT not tell you that?

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Apologies.

I didnt mean to hurt anybodys feeling. I have a lot of respect for Dan.

I want to point out that there are a lot of other alternatives other than Dans regimen. If youre on the regimen for more than a month and you still have breakouts after you stop the regimen, then you should try other alternative.

You can always go skin specialist doctor, to facial spa or to dermatologist. They will suggest antibiotic, BP, salycilic acid, medications or skin extraction.

Staying on this regimen for more than 2 months is too much. I see some has practice it for 4 years. It has to come to stop somewhen. Theres a research that says that BP can cause cancer.

The fastest way to get rid of acne is by doing skin extraction. But youll get scars from it.

Dan is a good writer. He has a lot of experience. But he should not limit the treatment to only his regimen. Maybe it worked for him, but not to all of us.

Apologies, again.

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Apologies.

I didnt mean to hurt anybodys feeling. I have a lot of respect for Dan.

I want to point out that there are a lot of other alternatives other than Dans regimen. If youre on the regimen for more than a month and you still have breakouts after you stop the regimen, then you should try other alternative.

You can always go skin specialist doctor, to facial spa or to dermatologist. They will suggest antibiotic, BP, salycilic acid, medications or skin extraction.

Staying on this regimen for more than 2 months is too much. I see some has practice it for 4 years. It has to come to stop somewhen. Theres a research that says that BP can cause cancer.

The fastest way to get rid of acne is by doing skin extraction. But youll get scars from it.

Dan is a good writer. He has a lot of experience. But he should not limit the treatment to only his regimen. Maybe it worked for him, but not to all of us.

Apologies, again.

BP is a world wide known way to fight acne.. my own doctor told me to use it. your EXPERT prolly wanted some money out of you.. because ive never heard of any "skin extraction" you can get anywhere but a dermatologist's office.

BP puts oxygen into our pores, and makes it impossible for bacteria to live there.. thus, no pimples. almost every acne wash, lotion, or even some astrigents have either BP or salicylic acid in it.. which can also be very irritating and drying to the skin, but it fights bacteria. in order to get rid of your break outs, you HAVE to keep applying the BP to keep your pores from being clogged, the ones that are already clogged when you start treating with dan's regimen come to the surface and once its clear the BP goes in and does its thing.

im currently taking cosmetology, and a part of that is learning the dermatology part of it.. our skin is CONSTANTLY renewing itself and bringing EVERYTHING to the surface.. there is no possible way bacteria could live under the skin without eventually coming to the surface. AND dans regimen may make red marks from post acne take longer to go away.. but at least it doesnt actually SCAR the skin like this extraction thing you speak of. BP is FDA approved, what you heard about it causing cancer is a complete myth.. pretty sure my doctor wouldnt perscribe me something that would give me cancer :)

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Apologies.

I didnt mean to hurt anybodys feeling. I have a lot of respect for Dan.

I want to point out that there are a lot of other alternatives other than Dans regimen. If youre on the regimen for more than a month and you still have breakouts after you stop the regimen, then you should try other alternative.

You can always go skin specialist doctor, to facial spa or to dermatologist. They will suggest antibiotic, BP, salycilic acid, medications or skin extraction.

Staying on this regimen for more than 2 months is too much. I see some has practice it for 4 years. It has to come to stop somewhen. Theres a research that says that BP can cause cancer.

The fastest way to get rid of acne is by doing skin extraction. But youll get scars from it.

Dan is a good writer. He has a lot of experience. But he should not limit the treatment to only his regimen. Maybe it worked for him, but not to all of us.

Apologies, again.

Hmmm.... so if a treatment only works for 70% of people, you shouldn't release it to the public? What about the 100s of other acne treatments that only work for 1% of people? :rolleyes:

And please get your facts straight before posting.

Benzoyl Peroxide

Don't believe every single study you see. Most news reports skew scientific study research data. You might see a headline saying, "Benzoyl Peroxide can cause Cancer," but the actual study probably only showed a slight correlation in only a few cases. Also, there could be other reasons for the link. In a study of 300 BP users, maybe two got cancer, but it could have been caused by many other unrelated things.

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For what it's worth here's my response to what everyone's posts based on my experience. I tried to quit the bp so many times and each time I experienced these tiny pimples in what seemed like every pore so that my face was literally covered in spots. The reason I wanted to quit was cause my skin was always dry and if I skipped a day my face would break out.

Anyway I finally realized that these breakouts were not like my acne before I started the regimen which consisted of only a few pimples. So this had to be something else, especially cause the tiny pimples were itchy. I never found out what they were but I can tell you I finally found a way out of this hellish cycle.

This is what I did: I reduced the bp to only one application a day over a period of months. Then I started to skip a day a few times a week. I did get breakouts over this time but I was just tired of the whole thing. Anyway after a long time I began to only put it on twice a week. Then once a week. And finally I stopped altogether. And the incredible thing is I still broke out with the tiny pimples but not as severe as the previous times I'd tried to stop the regimen. I waited a couple of weeks and now I only have a couple of pimples that are healing.

I had been on the regimen for more than four years and I was so sick of it. And I couldn't understand how I could still have pimples when I was almost 30. It didn't make any sense. I really appreciate Dan for trying to help out. And there was a part of my life where the regimen was necessary but the thing that bothers me is that Dan has to know about skin getting used to the regimen and the difficulty in getting off. Cause he's mentioned that every time he stops he gets these breakouts. So he should warn people and try to find an answer. It's not possible that everyone who has been on the regimen for a long time cannot get rid of their acne no matter how old they get. So I hope Dan listens to all the people who are going through this.

I just want to give people hope that there is a way to get off. Many times I went in search of an answer on this board and I couldn't find an answer.

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I understand that Dan has a lot of supporters. What I can't understand is why are people still practicing the regimen for more than 6 months.

If Dan's regimen doesn't work for you, there are other options.

1. Skin extraction - must be done by trained professional or you'll get scars

2. Dermaabrasion

3. Laser treatment

4. Plastic surgery

They are highly effective but expensive. At least you do not need 4 years just to know that Dan's regimen doesn't work for you.

Dan is not a trained expert on facial skin treatment. He is not a doctor. You can choose to believe. I am advising against it.

I am very open to all kind of treatments. I pity those who are on the regimen for a very long time. There is hope for you guys, but not from Dan's regimen.

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I understand that Dan has a lot of supporters. What I can't understand is why are people still practicing the regimen for more than 6 months.

If Dan's regimen doesn't work for you, there are other options.

1. Skin extraction - must be done by trained professional or you'll get scars

2. Dermaabrasion

3. Laser treatment

4. Plastic surgery

They are highly effective but expensive. At least you do not need 4 years just to know that Dan's regimen doesn't work for you.

Dan is not a trained expert on facial skin treatment. He is not a doctor. You can choose to believe. I am advising against it.

I am very open to all kind of treatments. I pity those who are on the regimen for a very long time. There is hope for you guys, but not from Dan's regimen.

i believe the regimen is for those who have tried everything else.. and nothing has worked (like myself) and also cant afford the pricey treatments from a specialist. that, and those treatments wont keep your acne away after doing it once. dan's regimen is a cheap facial routine to do every morning and night just like every other face washing system.. difference is it actually works (maybe minus those that are allergic to BP)

you may not like it, but others like myself have seen it as a miracle.

either way it gives you no right to come in here and dishearten everyone from what theyre doing to have their clear skin is junk.

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