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Ok so I am starting the new Clearlight treatment next week, I am going to keep a diary here to inform everyone on how it works for me. I am booked in for 10 treatments spread over 5 weeks, once I have finished the treatment I will then get IPL to help reduce the redness and hyperpigmentation.

My Derm couldn't really say if the Clear light would cure me of acne but said it will help, its a new treatment so he wasn't sure how it would work for different people.

I am sick and tired of acne so am prepared to give it a go.

Currently I am generally 90% clear while on the regimen, the Derm said my skin wasn't too bad but I told him if I stop using the BP my skin will get bad again. The 10% of spots I do get are generally large red spots that seems to hang around for a week or two. My first treatment is next Tuesday, the Derm has told me I cannot use the BP while doing the treatment so I am stopping the BP from Sunday night, thats a scary thought.

Anyway, I will post again on Tuesday if not sooner, anyone with questions please do ask.

Beama

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I've been checking out the clearlight/bluelight/acne lamp stuff off an on over the last couple months and it seems to be something that works. I'll be quite interested to see how your clearlight treatment goes.

From the research I've done, most of these treatments simply make use of the light treatment itself, without any creams or pills. Is that how clearlight works?

I have however, found the particular lightbulb that is used in the majority of these acne lamps that sell for over $100. It's a General Electric Dichro Blue Flood Light, part number 19465. The red light is 19468 if you've come across that.

Catalog page.

By searching on that part number, I can find several stores that sell it for around $20. As far as I can tell (details are very limited when you're a consumer and not a paying customer), it's the blue light that does the work. Some research was done with red lights, but the red light doesn't work as well, or has to be in conjunction with the blue light.

I would have purchased one already, but I am going to be heading out to the desert for the next 6-7 months, and that dry desert air clears my face up pretty good as well (till I'm home in humid PA for 2 weeks, then I'm back to square one).

All of the bits of information I can glean most places indicate 2 15-minute treatments per week, over a period of 4-5 weeks, and afterwards, a followup every 3-4 weeks to maintain it.

Now, I haven't tried this yet mysef because of my upcoming deployment, so I can't testify wether it works or not. I haven't seen any of the sites mention "in conjunction with cream x or pill y", so I'm fairly certain that most of these guaranteed products are merely using the light. If anyone can let me (and everyone else) know of any information I got wrong or missed entirely, let me know. I had to dig all over the place and piece tidbits of information together from various sites to get the information I have, so I easily could have missed something.

If anyone tries using the bulb, please post your results or let me know.

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Hello. I am new to this forum having recently found it after searching google. Great work to whoever devleoped this, it's very comforting to know I am not alone in my struggle with the dreaded acne disease. Being in my 30's it's tough and having struggled with acne since my early 20's, it's an exhausting process when you feel like you are going through this on your own. Anyway, enough of the introduction. I'd like to share my recent experience with the Clearlight system (although it's called Bluelight in Australia).

I have found it to be very helpful in controlling my acne (which is classed as moderate). While I am still on topical and oral treatments (have just discovered Proactiv, have used Minomycin on and off for about a year and have been on Diane since I was 23. Have tried Retin and Differin but found them to be far too harsh. They caused my skin to become very sensitive and I feel has encouraged scarring - red and brown marks - which until using them, I never had), the Clearlight has made a dramatic difference in controlling and clearing my active acne. I am currently on my 7th treatment of 8 in total.

I found I noticed a real improvement by the 5th/6th treatment. The process also includes a deep cleansing machine which makes the skin feel great. My only complaint, it makes your red/brown scars much more noticiable for a couple of hours after treatment (as if you've been lying in the sun). p.s. Tried the tape treatment a few nights back, it has worked well for me in terms of smoothing out my skin and i think has even faded a few of the smaller marks!

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2old4acne did your derm say you could ocntinue using topicals while getting the Clearlight done? Mine told me to stop using the BP, I have had two Clearlight treatments and haven't really noticed anything yet, I have stopped using the BP for a week now and I am starting to get spots reappearing, this could be the initial breakout from the Clearlight, I dunno. Did you experience a breakout between treatment 2-4 with the Clearlight, my derm told me to expect one.

If you are using topical successfully with Clearlight I might too.

Beama

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Hi Beama. I am still on minomycin (although slowing taking less and less, hope to be off completely within a month) and using BP daily and occasionally Retin A (very, very lightly and only on fresh breakouts that look like they may turn nasty).

I think it's a case of trial and error, every person's skin is different so see how you go. I don't think the clearlight can completely heal the acne on its own so you should keep to your own regime (albeit, perhaps less than normal should you notice irritation).

And to your question re experiencing breakouts in between treatments, yes, I am still experiencing minor breakouts, not sure if it's a consequence of the treatment, but they really are very minor (ie I can actually count how many).

I think this system is well worth a go. I will be having my two last treatments this week. I will keep you updated as to my progress.

2old4acne

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Thanks mate.

I have my 3rd Clearlight treatment tomorrow, I am having a total of 10 x 15 minute treatments spread over 5 weeks. I am going to continue with the BP regimen in between treatments, I mean I will not use BP on the days I have the Clearlight but will use it in between. Once the Clearlight is finished I will stop the BP altogether I think and see what happens with my skin, it will be a good test. I might even be able to do the regimen once a day instead of two and that would be sweet.

I am hoping at the end of the treatment my skin will be more manageable, I don't expect to be cured of acne but it would be nice to wake up each day with no nasty spots and maybe just the odd little spot.

To what degree do you think your skin would have improved since you began the Clearlight? Example, did you usually have maybe 10 active spots on your face and now you have 4?

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Hi. I think your modified regime sounds good, certainly give it a try. I really do think that the treatments have helped my skin quite a bit. My forehead, chin and lower cheeks were quite full on spots and after the 4th and 5th treatment these had all but cleared. As I said, I still get the occasionaly spots, but I think continuing my cleansing regime will help clear these up. I am also becoming much stricter with my diet, ie only healthy foods and lots of water, and exercising. Now I just need to get rid of the scars and we'll be sweet mate!

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My daughter had very bad acne for over 2 years. We went to six specialists and were put on every antibiotic, topical, etc etc. Nothing had any effect. In fact, the most dramatic effect was using Dan's regimen of benzoil peroxide shown on this website.

We were on the verge of getting her on accutane (very worried but losing hope) when I found the Clearlight treatment by accident on the internet.

I was skeptical but we were out of options.

So I forked over $800 for eight treatments over four weeks. She went from out of control with 40 active acne (large red welt types) to just four in the time of the treatments. She is now basically clear two months after the treatment, and can manage the occasional whiteheads using just the benzoil peroxide regimen. She was and remains on minocycline, but I don't know if it is necessary since she was on it before with minimal results. However, we dont' want to tempt fate.

Here's what I know. The treatment works by using 420 nm light waves that penetrate the skin and stimulate porphyrins to emit peroxide in the follicles. This effectively puts the killing agent right where the p acnes problem lies.

The key is the intensity of the light. You cannot simulate this intensity using the "internet" 400 watt light bulbs. I know because I bought one and showed it to the doctor who had a meter he uses to calibrate his machine. Now this is after I paid him, so he had no reason to lie about it. He said his light puts out the equivallent of around 70 on the meter at the distance to the patient. THe internet device put out a 5 level at six inches from the light. Totally ineffective.

The doctor also told me that certain doctors buy the Lumenis machine but don't know to lower it. The lamps attached to the machine have to be lowered from the normal height above the table before it is effective intensity. Further, the doctor has to be willing to pay for new bulbs when the machine needs them. The machine automatically adjusts the time to account for this. So when the bulbs are new, the treatment might be 15 minutes. But when the bulbs get older, the machine adjusts and increases the time to say 18 minutes.

The machine also scans the face to count total acne so the patient can get a read out on progress, but I can tell you the progress will be obvious after four weeks. Our doctor also gives booster treatments during the first year if acne acts up again.

Since accutane carries substantial risks and costs thousands of dollars, you have to

consider this before taking what amounts to chemotherapy.

I posted this here but will also post this in a new thread for more exposure.

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Hello. I am using an acne lamp that I bought from http://www.kaliszincolor.com/index.html. I am suffering with acne for 2 years now, I am 30yo man from Vancouver Canada. I tried different medication and topical solution. I've been in OBAGI which I found good for Hyperpigmentation but my not good for pimples because my pimples became worse and most of all it became more inflamed. I used obagi for 13 weeks, my skin thyperpigmentation improved but my acne erupted more. So my dermatologist gave me Steivamycin to reduced the inflamed acne. The I went to Blu-u with levulan, damn my face became so red even my neck good thing is that after 2 weeks all the redness was gone. But my neck still kinda dark and I dont know why, maybe it will fade in time. Anyways, I found the acne lamp is very effective to me. I've been using it now for a week and I see good improvements. Majority of my pimples are now healed and I dont't have any breakouts now. Hopefully all my pimples will fade away after 2 weeks. The good thing here is that I don't need to go for a blu-u for 8 weeks (800 dollars canadian).

Here's my routine:

Morning:

1. Loreal Pure Zone #1 Facial Cleanser for Oily Skin with salicylic acid

2. To cover-up some of my hyperpigmentation, I use Oxy5® Cover Up Formula covers up pimples while it treats them with BP 5.

Afternoon (around2 or 3 pm):

1. Oxy Daily cleaning pads deep cleaning (Salicylic acid 2.0%)

Evening

1. Loreal Pure Zone #1 Facial Cleanser for Oily Skin with salicylic acid

2. Dry it up (10 to 20 mins)

3. Acne Lamp ( 15 minutes )

4. Ponds Oil Free Moisturizer.

I hope I help you here. My skin now is very good and the most important thing here is that I don't have any breakouts now.

Thanks for the Blue Light!!!!

Cheers,

Eric from Vancouver Canada biggrin.gif

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if n-lite is also clear-light then i've heard mixed things.

i have tried n-lite twice... but the improvement was only short term and marginal. it also cost me loads.

a dermatologist at my hospital said that after their research they concluded a short term, roughly 50% improvement was about a normal response. they are discontinuing the trials as other treatments are supposedly much better.

the trouble with research is who pays the researcher. unfortunately nothing in science is as objective as it really should be. even when you have a national health service they still have the pressure of the drugs companies and the sheer cost of some treatments to 'keep in mind' when reaching conclusions.

anyway... all i can suggest is don't spend your money until you've at least tried all other options first. at least see a nominally 'impartial' dermatologist who isn't paid to tell you to spend your money on one treatment over another.

best wishes,

TIM

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Got a Question for those who have done the ClearLight treatment, about how far was the device placed from your face?

I bought 2 bulbs, GE DICHRO Blue 150 watts each , the same that are carried on one of the sites. But I'm trying to determine what will be the effective distance of placement next to the skin.

Also if anyone else has experimented with these bulbs, have you found any research that actually shows what wavelength these put out. Found the bulb on GE website but no technical data.

Laukelekele, thanks for the info on where to get the bulbs, defintely the best deal.

Have you got yours up and running yet? how's it going?

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Got a Question for those who have done the ClearLight treatment, about how far was the device placed from your face?

I bought 2 bulbs, GE DICHRO Blue 150 watts each , the same that are carried on one of the sites. But I'm trying to determine what will be the effective distance of placement next to the skin.

Also if anyone else has experimented with these bulbs, have you found any research that actually shows what wavelength these put out. Found the bulb on GE website but no technical data.

Laukelekele, thanks for the info on where to get the bulbs, defintely the best deal.

Have you got yours up and running yet? how's it going?

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I bought 2 from replacement lightbulbs as well, I figure 1 for each side, the original study used about 400 watt intensity, so I figured 300 is pretty close. I haven't tried mine yet, having a hard time to find a lamp that can take 150 watts.

Any suggestions?

In the original study the lamp was placed 25cm or about 10 inches from the face. How close do you put it. Does it really get that hot? How long have you been using it? Results?

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To Jim:

"Also if anyone else has experimented with these bulbs, have you found any research that actually shows what wavelength these put out. Found the bulb on GE website but no technical data."

- I actually emailed GE, asking that question. They told me that since the lamp wasn't intended for scientific or medicinal use there was no wavelenght data. And I really doubt that Kaliszincolor has analysed the light themselves. I suppose that since the lamp emits a rich blue colour they assumed that 420 nm is an included wavelenght.

"Laukelekele, thanks for the info on where to get the bulbs, defintely the best deal."

- No problem!

"Have you got yours up and running yet? how's it going?"

- I've received my lamps, but haven't started using them yet. This is because I need a voltage converter (since I live in Sweden where we have 230V). The only one I've found here is really spooky - it has no visible output, you need to unscrew some kind of lid, and it has a little note on it saying that only licensed electricians are allowed to install it. It's also quite expensive (over $100), so I was planning to wait and see if the popular Clean&Clear combo can solve my problems before investing in that spooky device.

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Got a Question for those who have done the ClearLight treatment, about how far was the device placed from your face?

I bought 2 bulbs, GE DICHRO Blue 150 watts each , the same that are carried on one of the sites. But I'm trying to determine what will be the effective distance of placement next to the skin.

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