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I don't care if anyone responds, I've given up on that. I'm just gonna vent cause I am so unbelievably sick of this shit. Every damn morning I wake up and my face is beat red and burning on fire....my eyes hurt, everything hurts.......I can't take this anymore. I've been on 200mg of Doxy for over 4 weeks and I've been putting on that stupid useless metro cream shit........and my face seems WORSE! I can't even leave my house..........I can't go for walks, I can't get groceries, I can't sit in my car on a sunny day, I can't do anything........The wait for a damn dermatologist is months.......I had a referral in 3.5 weeks ago and they are still reviewing it, I still DON'T have an appointment time. I can't take this burning feeling anymore..............I cry EVERYDAY for hours and hours and hours. I call in sick to work because I look and feel like pure hell. Has anyone killed themselves over this before, if not I just may be the first one! I'm 25 years old....I should be living life at my prime and instead all I want to do is die. I have tried to help myself with this in every single way I know how and can and NOTHING is helping.......I'm so tired of the physical and mental pain. I seriously SERIOUSLY can no longer deal with this.

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you're not alone.

it's not all that comforting, but just know that you're not the only one.

i cry occassionally, but the thing you have to realize is you're letting this get the better of you.

you're 25, I don't doubt that you're gorgeous!

accept yourself for who you are, and not who you want to be.

life is fleeting, suicide isn't anything you should be seriously considering.

trust me i've had by bouts of pain and agony and suicidal thoughts

depression really hurts, and it really hard to get out of.

but you just HAVE to get into the mental state that you are beautiful.

lammer than lame, i know, but there could NEVER be a more beautiful you.

think about now! not the future, because you never know when you're life can end.

i know when i realized that if i died today i would be so dissatisfied. this life is all you have, why waste it :'(

you've prob had this type of stuff told to you a million times

but the annoying stuff is usually the truthful, real things you should listen to.

if you ever need to talk or you get bored from always having to be home send me a message (:

or not, lol whatever. :P

but acne.org is always a good place to turn, or at least i think so.

here are some song suggestions, bc i think music really gets to me.. very soothing:

sad songs:

everything is beautiful-- Anne Marie Boskovich

this is your life-- switchfoot :angel: personal fav.

beautiful ending-- barlowgirl

sleeping in-- nevertheless (great band, good song <3)

cheerful songs:

more beautiful you-- johnny diaz :wub: amazing song.

echo off the sky-- poema (cutesy)

hello sunshine-- barlowgirl ..talks about struggling

beautiful things-- gungor

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i understand. i had to wait for a dermatologist appointment only to be put on some topical crap that didnt change my face at all. after not being helped by doctors and dermatologists, i called to see a specialist and had to be referred by my doctors. over a month since i called, still no appointment. i'm 26 and my face has been discolored purple-red for 3 years now. i'm sitting here wasting away and not living when i should be because of something i have no control over.

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heyy i totally feel the same!!

i know derms are so frustrating when i actully get an appointment they ha ve changed it like 2/3 times then when i finally get seen they put me on crap that makes skin worse than it was THEN wait further few months for it to work only to know that NO it doesnt pfftt. sorry for the negativity its the least you probbly want right now but its so frustrating when other people dont know how you feel :(

trust me i feel your pain when you say you cried nd cried for hours. done the same. i wish there was a miracle cure for all us

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First you need to calm down. Cry will not fix your problem but research on this site can help you diminish your problem, to a controllable zone. I know is difficult, I didn't cry much but suffered the same problem. And remember that skin heals and you will look better, but first we need to kill some bastards ... bacteria.

So tell us, what is your problem exactly? :think:

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Thanks for all the replies and support.....especially you mislily009, your words really picked up my spirits. I feel selfish sometimes dwelling on this knowing others are struggling too....it makes me feel guilty. I'm trying to change my thinking and to look at things differently but it's tough.....especially when (as I see we all understand) it's soooo hard to get help from a dermatologist.

Corsair..........my "problem" is pretty intense. I've read and researched a lot about Rosacea......I also work in the health care field and knew a bit about it before I thought it could be my own personal diagnosis. It starts back about 6 months ago........I was having issues with my birth control pill........breaking out more, and this whole flushing thing started........it didn't really bother me at first so I left it........it gradually got worse and I thought I might have been having a reaction to the pill..........so I switched it to a pill that contained less Androgens (went from Ortho Tri Cyclen to Demulen 1/30)........I was okay my first month on the new pill but on the second month 2 weeks in my face flared up huge, my eyes started hurting, and I started getting those little red pimples that seems to be characteristic of Rosacea......my blood pressure sky rocketed from a normal 115/80 to 145/115.....so I got off Demulen.....and my skin continued to flare and burn.........it basically engulfs both cheeks.........I saw a nurse practioner (my GP was on vacation at the time) and was put on 100mg twice daily of Doxy and Metro cream. She wasn't convinced it was Rosacea but was treating it as such. I've been taking the Doxy and using the Metro for 4.5 weeks........my face seems to be getting worse as far as the reddness goes although I'd say the little pimple things have gotten a bit better (a very minimal improvement).....but getting off the pill doesn't help with pimples either, my hormones are likely messed.

So here's where I am now............EVERY morning, my face is beat red when I wake up........my cheeks burn and the reddness goes down to the bottom of my jawline to my ears and sometimes my ears are burning hot and red as well.........my nose has been getting red and inflammed as well.......my chin can sometimes be red, but that might be because of dry skin from this damn Doxy......forehead is fine........my eyes feel tired and burning but ONLY when my cheeks are red and burning. I sleep infront of a fan to try to cool myself which could be affecting my eyes as well. As the day progresses............my face calms down a lot and looks normal again..........unless i step into an environment that is too warm, being in the sun isn't helpful either.........nothing i eat or drink affects it.

The burning pain is off the charts unreal.........It feels like my face has been dipped in acid.......and it's always in the mornings.

I don't know if this is Rosacea and I'm at the point where I don't really care what it is..........I need it fixed because it's taking some massive tolls on my physical and mental health.

I know this is a long post..........venting seems to help and hearing back from all of you guys helps as well..........knowing I'm not alone and that we all struggle with something. I wish us all the best.......I wish there was some magical cure, if I find one or hear of one.......I'll share asap lol.

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I don't care if anyone responds, I've given up on that. I'm just gonna vent cause I am so unbelievably sick of this shit. Every damn morning I wake up and my face is beat red and burning on fire....my eyes hurt, everything hurts.......I can't take this anymore. I've been on 200mg of Doxy for over 4 weeks and I've been putting on that stupid useless metro cream shit........and my face seems WORSE! I can't even leave my house..........I can't go for walks, I can't get groceries, I can't sit in my car on a sunny day, I can't do anything........The wait for a damn dermatologist is months.......I had a referral in 3.5 weeks ago and they are still reviewing it, I still DON'T have an appointment time. I can't take this burning feeling anymore..............I cry EVERYDAY for hours and hours and hours. I call in sick to work because I look and feel like pure hell. Has anyone killed themselves over this before, if not I just may be the first one! I'm 25 years old....I should be living life at my prime and instead all I want to do is die. I have tried to help myself with this in every single way I know how and can and NOTHING is helping.......I'm so tired of the physical and mental pain. I seriously SERIOUSLY can no longer deal with this.

I know EXACTLY how you feel. My face is red as a tomato and burns like hades. I was just telling my fiance the other day, that if this doesn't go away I am seriously considering suicide. The only time I feel at peace is when I FINALLY fall asleep...But sometimes I can't even do that, because I'm so itchy and dry and irritated.

Anyway, my point is, you're not alone. EVERYONE on this website has your back and ANYONE who has ever suffered from acne or any skin condition for that matter, feels for you. There's always a reason for everything, this won't last forever. So stay strong and try to think positive.

My advice would just be to stop using that cream if it's irritating your skin that much. How is your diet? Your lifestyle? You may need to change more than just medications/topicals to see some real results.

Godspeed, darling. <3

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Thanks for the response Kristen..........it's frickin' terrible isn't it. Were you diagnosed with Rosacea? The whole burning thing........I think that's the worst part.......I dunno about you but I feel like just sticking my head in a bucket of ice. I dunno how I'm gonna live like this.........they say Rosacea is chronic and only progresses and gets worse..........I'd be nice if it would randomly disappear and never return lol. I know that suicidal feeling very well.......I have body dysmorphic disorder which is making this whole thing 100 times worse.......I pick up on every flaw and just focus right in on it..........spending countless hours infront of the mirror, crying...........it's torture. I'm trying to just keep my head up and let go of it and just see what happens.........I haven't even talked to my GP or dermatologist yet, so I'm gonna try to wait this out until then.

I'm gonna cut back on the cream from twice daily to just once.........my diet is crap lol, which is mostly due to the job and hours I work (pretty high stress 12 hour night shifts). I definitely need to change some things but I just don't know where to start really............it's all just super depressing.....such is life sometimes though :(

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Hey Jessica,

Read everything you said, and took it all to heart

I am deeply sorry you've had to endure and suffer so much

I too went through something very similar and had a bout of Psoriasis and Roscea combined!

My skin always itched, was really red sore and inflamed.

I still get the odd patch now and then. my hands fingers and toes swell up and bleed

occasionally. but I am not going to let it get me down anymore

there are people (like you) with much more and such severe problems and heart aches in this world, so me complaining about it is not going to alter the inevitable outcome.

However I was determined not to give up and having read a vitamin book started taking high does of vitamin A vitamin E, zinc and drinking 2 tablespoons of cold pressed flax seed oil- which is so horrible it makes you feel sick! but if it helps then im going to drink it.

that's when i started scouring the net and found a brilliant source and as I said before was truly shocked by the many other sufferers, but also more so how they had been treated by their respected doctors.

I have been taking the vitamins and oil for 2 weeks now and also i have stopped drinking tea&coffee which is extremely difficult as i was having on average 8-9 mugs a day, i feel so tired at the moment but strangely my skin has improved quite a lot, but as a fellow sufferer how difficult is it to try and find what makes you flare up! its such a nightmare,

here are a few things i have found that makes mine worse;

1. air conditioning. yeah I dunno why but this aggravates and thereby speeds up my rosacea/ acne build up

2.tea/coffee. I don;t drink either anymore. I also try to limit the amount of dairy I eat.

3.salt- I cut mine down to as minimal as poss

4.peanuts, or any oily nuts in general

5.citrus fruit- some can affect you, it all depends on how tolerant you are, 'cuz we're all different.

6.soap-any oil type, I now use Manuka Honey and Tea Tree with added Green tea soaps to wash with. which is virtually chemical free and are non hypoallergenic.

7.hot water on my face, contrary to pop belief, warm water does not open pores. sometimes the warm water can irritate and cause flare ups. I've been doing a lot of research on this one.

8.alcohol! what a nightmare that one is! I steer clear of any and all alcoholic substances now

9.emotional stress- Probably the main cause of flare ups. no remedy to this one. we just have to try and keep calm and not stress out as much. though tbh who can honestly say they can do that?

I just have to live my life, adapt to the changes and deal with it best I can

I have found many great products to help combat the symptoms and slowly aid in the repairing and healing process. I could share with you my own tried and proved methods that have worked reasonably well for me, if you like that is.

One cream I really do Recommend and is very efficient for Rosacea and Psoriasis sufferers alike, is E45 Cream for Sensistive skin. make sure it is non hyperallergenic and

Google it if you like, and let me know if you want any other advice , voice any concerns etc

* P.s Some may be totally against E45 Products, heck even I was a skeptic, unti I finally had enough took the plunge and bought the cream/s.

after 4 weeks of consistent use I can safely say that the redness and patchy scaly skin subsided and eventually I was feeling the difference!. my skin was no longer extremely dry or sensistive. and best of all no more irritating itchiness!

I used to scratch all over, that obv made the problem severely worse.

I also Used Vaseline Intensive Care lotion to help alleviate the 'dry and wet' syndrome I acquired.*

Hope you find something that suits your skin and keeps you overall healthy at the same time, Good Luck and Goodspeed

you deserve a normal and painfree life, everybody does!

Edited by Durbaniter~Zitigated

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Maybe you guys with the burning red faces should try some natural products, like coconut oil (from a health food store) or aloe vera gel. They're supposedly very healing substances.

I had a red face too once, it subsided with a low fat low sugar diet.

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Thanks for the response Kristen..........it's frickin' terrible isn't it. Were you diagnosed with Rosacea? The whole burning thing........I think that's the worst part.......I dunno about you but I feel like just sticking my head in a bucket of ice. I dunno how I'm gonna live like this.........they say Rosacea is chronic and only progresses and gets worse..........I'd be nice if it would randomly disappear and never return lol. I know that suicidal feeling very well.......I have body dysmorphic disorder which is making this whole thing 100 times worse.......I pick up on every flaw and just focus right in on it..........spending countless hours infront of the mirror, crying...........it's torture. I'm trying to just keep my head up and let go of it and just see what happens.........I haven't even talked to my GP or dermatologist yet, so I'm gonna try to wait this out until then.

I'm gonna cut back on the cream from twice daily to just once.........my diet is crap lol, which is mostly due to the job and hours I work (pretty high stress 12 hour night shifts). I definitely need to change some things but I just don't know where to start really............it's all just super depressing.....such is life sometimes though :(

Are you a nurse? I am, and it's definitely a quite stressful job. Night shifts take a huge toll on the physical and mental body. If there's any way to get off the night shift, I'd highly recommend that if it's at all possible.

Low-dose Accutane can help with rosacea.

The altered blood pressure you indicate sounds scary, indeed. Perhaps you need an endocrinology consultation, too.

As I'd like this topic to remain open, I must insist that there be no more suicide references from anyone.

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Thanks for the response Kristen..........it's frickin' terrible isn't it. Were you diagnosed with Rosacea? The whole burning thing........I think that's the worst part.......I dunno about you but I feel like just sticking my head in a bucket of ice. I dunno how I'm gonna live like this.........they say Rosacea is chronic and only progresses and gets worse..........I'd be nice if it would randomly disappear and never return lol. I know that suicidal feeling very well.......I have body dysmorphic disorder which is making this whole thing 100 times worse.......I pick up on every flaw and just focus right in on it..........spending countless hours infront of the mirror, crying...........it's torture. I'm trying to just keep my head up and let go of it and just see what happens.........I haven't even talked to my GP or dermatologist yet, so I'm gonna try to wait this out until then.

I'm gonna cut back on the cream from twice daily to just once.........my diet is crap lol, which is mostly due to the job and hours I work (pretty high stress 12 hour night shifts). I definitely need to change some things but I just don't know where to start really............it's all just super depressing.....such is life sometimes though :(

No, I'm not diagnosed with Rosacea. I have dry, red, flaky, BURNING skin due to the products I've been/was using. Sometimes I have to put my face in the freezer or near a fan to cool off, no joke.

Well, you might want to fix a few things in your diet. Find help for your body dysmorphic disorder as well. That's not something you want to try and fix on your own. By the way, when I was dealing with severe depression, I would often browse this website: http://aflourishinglife.com/ ...it really helped me out with some issues I was going through.

I really hope things start looking up for you, sweetie.

Godspeed<3

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Wynne I'm not a nurse.........I do crisis work actually, strange enough I have my own personal crisis' that apparently I don't deal well with, so is life I guess. The opportunity to jump to days doesn't present itself too often.......I'm just lucky to be 25 and working successfully in my field which I'm thankful for everyday. The blood pressure was due to Demulen being such an old form of birth control..........1st generation I believe..........which aren't as medically advanced as your 3rd and 4th generation pills i.e Yasmin. I see my GP tomorrow and will likely be having referrals to all sorts of ppl including an endocrinologist. I have a lot of IBS/Digestive problems....which could contribute to my skin issues maybe? Who knows. I just want a damn diagnosis so I can go from there.

I haven't looked into any herbal/natural stuff for Rosacea.......as I haven't been formally diagnosed. I know there's a ton of great books out there and that'll be my next step......I did see one online that focused strictly on trying to control Rosacea with diet (my diet is awful which I blame on nasty shift work lol).

I guess we'll see what happens tomorrow :(

Thanks again for all the replies everyone! I REALLY appreciate it......more than you'll ever know

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IBS/Digestive can certainly contribute to skin issues. Perhaps work with a nutrition counselor/registered dietician to determine a decent diet. Or check out Mayo Clinic website or just do a search on search engine of your choice for 'IBS Mayo' and you'll get the link you want right away. :) IBS SUCKS.

I used to exlusively work the night shift; a healthier diet is definitely possible even if you have to end up cooking at odd hours of day and night!

Crisis work sounds stressful enough without adding in your own stressors.

You and others may get sick of me typing it, but I must say that yoga can really help. :D The stretching of it just seems to release feel-good endorphins and it's energizing and relaxing, whatever you wish it to be.

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Oh no I completely agree........I did Yoga for a few months and I swear by it lol, I felt so much more relaxed and fresh. I should look into getting back into it!

IBS is terrible........I try my hardest to control it by eating absolutely no deep fried food (bye bye McDonalds and Wendy's) and no raw veggies especially harder veggies like califlour/brocolli. It seems to help a bit lol.

Wynne, a nurse's advice is priceless.........and you're a nurse so maybe you could give me some priceless advice lol.......if you read my post in this thread dated May 29th (long post).......does that sound like Rosacea to you? or an allergic reaction? or........some other terrible thing lol? Your opinion would be an educated one which would be nice! :) Thanks so much!

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It really upset me to read your initial post, I know how depressing your situation is, the lack of control is frustrating and it is made worse by not being able to cry properly without my face burning!

I have suffered from acne for 25 years and at my last dermatology appointment a year ago I was told I was very 'unlucky' to have developed rosacea as well. At the time I was so upset about my acne I didn't really pay attention to this news. I decided to give up on the antibiotics I have been taking for ten years, as I believe it just masked the problem and in the long term made my skin worse (I'm not suggesting you give up on medication as everyone is different)

I started using various products and a beautylamp to control my acne, however, I now realise this has made my rosacea worse. I have gone through a couple of depressing months while I try to research new products which help my acne without worsening my rosacea. (this seemed a rather difficult task at first)

I have found a cleanser called Calmin which is sold in the uk and I think is probably similar to cetaphil, its made for super sensitive skins. I also have changed my make up from Aveda to Jane Iredale which doesnt have any irritants in it, it's expensive but I would rather do without other things and spend money on good quality skincare. The coverage of the make up is fantastic, I suggest you look it up. I still have a red face but the cleanser has helped with the burning and the lumps have subsided.

I also think using milder cleansers have helped my acne as it is less irritated.

It sounds to me like you are leading a very stressful life which is definately a factor in rosacea. I know it is annoying to be told to destress when you are in this state, I want to throttle my husband when he tells me to 'not stress out' as he believes I make my skin worse by worrying about it. He may be right, but it doesnt help when my face is full of boils and burning up!!

It also sounds like you may be allergic to something in your bedding, dustmites? detergents?

I use a super sensitive detergent, change my bedding regularly and cover my face when i'm dusting, I know it sounds ridiculous but it helps and the sense of taking control is liberating if a little inconvenient.

I follow a low gi diet (any quick search on the internet will tell you what to eat) this is mainly to help my acne but is also a good diet to avoid stress.

My life is still dictated by my skin and it easy for this to drag me down, but I'm fed up of not feeling in control, at least by finding my trigger factors and doing as much as I can to avoid them I feel better at having some control over my life. It seems most things I do are bad for my skin, I have an outdoor job and so I cannot completely avoid sun or wind but I can minimise the damage with sun protection etc.

I'm not sure if this has helped, sometimes practical advice is the last thing I want to hear when I am feeling depressed, but I want you to know that you are not alone and I found my way out of my low points was to just grit my teeth and do as much research as possible (even though the computer screen used to make my face burn!!)

I hope you feel better soon, keep posting and let us know how you get on.

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oh and I forgot drink lots of WATER WATER WATER! So obvious we take it for granted but it reallly does help. Dehydrated skin is struggling skin.

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Spinx how frustrating for you, I'm so sorry to hear about everything you are and have gone through. I wish nobody had to deal with this stuff......imagine how much nicer and happier the world would be. How old were you when you were told you have Rosacea? I just saw my GP and he just basically kept saying it "could" be Rosacea but he "isn't convinced". Which isn't good or bad.......basically just leaves me with no answers. He's taking me off the Metro cream I was using......cutting my Doxy back from 2 100mg tabs a day to just 1 100mg tab a day.....and is putting me on Protopic, whatever that is :think:

What sorts of things flare up your Rosacea? I bet working outside really bothers it......I guess depending on where you live. It gets very sunny and hot here.......I wouldn't be able to do it......BUT the Doxy has made me very sun sensitive so maybe once I cut back and get off that it'll be better.

You speak about dust and dust mites...........that's kinda funny because my problems started when I moved into this house I'm in now...........which is very old and unusually dusty, DUST BUNNIES EVERYWHERE..........I could literally sweep the floors three times a day and still have dust bunnies lol. I wonder if there's a link there.......hmmmmmm.....good news is, I have purchased a new home and I move the end of June lol.

And one more question...........how long did it take for you to develop Rosacea? I know they say there are first signs of blushing and then it tends to get worse.........Whatever this is developed to the severity it is within 6 months. I dunno.......gosh I have so many questions lol........unfortunately today at my GP appointment I found out the wait for a dermatologist could be anywhere from 6 to 12 months........I do not know how I'm gonna wait this out that long :ohno:

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Hi, I was diagnosed with rosacea last sping when I was 38, however it

wasn't till this winter that the penny dropped that my skin problems

were being caused by rosacea and not just acne.

It has been a very harsh winter here in uk with lots of snow and biting

winds, I work outdoors and it reallly took its toll on my skin. With

make-up I looked like my face had been dipped in honey then rolled in

oats! Without make-up on I looked like I had fallen asleep in front of

a sun lamp then been attacked with a cheese greater! LOL (Not funny at

the time though)

I am fair skinned and thinking back I have always flushed in the sun

but it is only recently that I have felt the burning and looked

permanently red. Apparently rosacea is called the celtic curse so I

suppose it affects fair skinned freckly people more.

I definately think dust is a problem. If I get an old book of the

bookshelf, as soon as I open it my face and eyes start tingling and

burning. When I moved into my house 12 years ago I started with an eye

problem which caused sore red itchy eyelids, it took two years to get a

diagnosis of blepharitis (inflamtion of the eyes) this is also a

chronic condition but it did go away eventually. It was only later that

I found out that blepharitis is linked with acne. i think all these

problems are linked and it all leads back to be being basicly very

sensitive.

Re the sweeping dust, I think if this is making the problem worse it

might be worth investing in a good vacuum like a dyson, sweeping will

just send the dust into the air, I bought a dyson because of the

blepharitis and with all the attachements you can dust and vacuum

everything without sending dust into the air.

Basically my face is always red nowadays but my triggers for burning

and bumps are:

Dust

Alcohol, especially red wine. red wine is lovely to drink but evil on

my face.

Wind, Sun

Harsh cleansers

the air con in my car...queue weeping eyes (I think your fan is a bad

idea)

Hot food, baths drinks

central heating

I have cut back on alcohol and never drink red wine, use a good spf and

sheild face from winds with a scarf. I follow a reasonably healthy low

GI diet, drink plenty of water and use carefully researched cosmetics

and cleansers. (have a look at RosaceaGroup.org)

I am also convinced that ten years of antibiotic use has made me very

sensitive to the sun, I was on mino for many years but the dr's

encouraged me to come of it because it shouldnt be used long term, I

changed to Lymecycline then doxy. Doxy was a nightmare for me, this is

when I really noticed sun sensitivity, heat rashes and mild swelling on

my fingers.

Another issue with antibiotics is that it kills natural gut bacteria

(could this be contributing to your ibs?) I am quite a skinny person

but I always had a little pot belly from bloating, when I came off doxy

I stated taking a probiotic and this has now gone.(I dont want to

encourage you to come of any medications without consultation with your

doctor, these are just my personal experiences)

I don't know anything about the canadian health system but I basically

wouldnt be fobbed off last time I went to my GP, maybe if you show them

how desperate and depessed you are they will get you an appointment

quicker. It is also worth taking fotos of your face on a bad day, as

my skin seems to miraculously clear up the day I have an appointment

with the derm!!

Anyway, rosacea or not, you obviously have vey sensitive skin and it

wouldnt harm to try some of the recommendations on this thread as they

all promote gentle skincare, healthy diet, de-stressing and drinking

plenty of water...all good things for anybody whether they have skin

problems or not.

Sorry for the long post, I havent posted on here for a while and it's

been good to get things off my chest. I hope this has been useful. Let

me know how you get on and if you have any more questions please feel

free to ask.

good luck

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You are SUCH a knowledgeable person.......Thanks so much for responding and giving me some great advice that I definitely WILL use.......first thing on my list, drink more water! I never drink water.......ever........today is day 1 of lots of water drinking lol.

Is your face really dry? I find my skin is horrendously dry lol........and I have always had sensitive skin but it's just been within the last 5-6 months that everything just seemed to go downhill. Well, as soon as I moved into this house just over a year ago I started having skin problems. And my eyes problems aren't with the skin around my eyes or eyelids its the eyeball itself lol......you know when you get tired or read too much, thats how my eyes sometimes feel....it's yucky but I know if Rosacea affects the eyes it can be pretty serious. I told this to my GP yesterday too and he didn't seem all that concerned............he looked at me under a lamp and just felt it was some sort of rash.........but sure what rash causing flushing though. And Protopic........what he prescribed is for Eczema, and side effects include - red face, flushing, burning..........basically EVERYTHING I WANT TO AVOID lol.

And I totally agree with you on the antibiotic thing........they scare me........I'm being weened off Doxy from 200mg a day to 100mg a day.......my skin is awful in the sun but I noticed it became WAY WORSE once I got on Doxy.....and realized it can cause photosensitivity.

Our health care system sucks of something rotten lol.......I actually got a call today telling me the wait to see this dermatologist is 8 months......so I'm keeping that appointment but getting a referral in to somewhere else as well......hopefully it'll be something more like 3-4 months lol. And I tried so hard yesterday at my GP appointment to press this issue of how much pain I'm in and how depressed it's making me......he just kept saying it could be Rosacea but he isn't convinced.......wasnt concerned about my eye complaints or anything else really.......he said Rosacea symptoms mask a lot of skin and internal symptoms including stress and allergies.....he just seemed unconcerned, which bothers me.......cuz I am in a lot of pain. And now getting off these antibiotics I feel it's just gonna come back FULL FORCE........And then I have friends and family members who think my skin has just been dry for so many months that it's now inflammed and irritated......and it is SUPER dry.....I can run a Q-Tip over my skin and dead skin cells just flake off.......but I dunno how dry skin would cause flushing? Again......so many questions, no answers lol.

Thank you so much Spinx for all the advice and support. It's nice knowing people are so willing to come forward and help others in need. I really appreciate everything you've done. Keep in contact with me......if you ever need someone to vent to, I'll be here!

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Hey gals & guys. I didn't realize that acne.org had a rosacea board until now. I'm going to make a new post at some point describing what helped me with my rosacea, but I thought I might want to mention it here too because this is such a desparate situation. Should tell you that I'm 31 and have had to deal with acne too.

I totally understand how miserable the redness can be. My rosacea was at it's worst last summer and fall. My face was on fire and I was also getting all sorts of bumps on my face -- little white ones and red ones too. I tried some creams, but I gave up a long time ago on topical solutions or traditional meds as the end all-be all solution to my skin issues. I tend to look wholistically at things. A lot of the things I've read say that your skin is indicative of your general health and what's going on inside your body.

Proponents of natural medicine/healing,say that rosacea (and acne to some extent) are often times tied to what we eat, and even more importantly, how each of our individual bodies break food down. For rosacea specifically, the theory is that there is an incomplete breakdown of proteins in the GI tract and those proteins sitting in the system have some bacterial impact on the system, which triggers redness and bumps. This may not work for everyone, but I've been taking a hydrocholoric acid (HCl) supplement with pepsin (digestive enzyme that breaks down protein) with most every meal that contains meat or a lot of protein for the last several months and it's reduced my rosacea by 85% or so. You can find it at most health food stores, including Whole Foods. You just want to make sure that you get one that has both HCl and Pepsin. And you'll have to stay in tune with your body when it comes to how often to take it and how much to take. I have a little pillcase that I carry around that contain whole pills and half pills that I cut with a pill spliter (available at all drug stores). It doesn't taste terrible but you want to make sure you swallow it quickly because to much acid is bad for your teeth. It will impact your stool (hate that word but had to use it :) ) and this will be different for everyone and will depend on what you have eaten, but with time you can figure out how to manage it. Just start slowly and take one pill here and there for a while so you can see if it is having any impact at all on your face. It's really worth a try for anyone who is suffering from rosacea.

Some other important digestive stuff that I've learned over the years.

- Do not drink water with a meal unless it contains lemon or lime. Water negatively impacts your body's ability to break food down. It's best to drink it between meals. The reason that people started putting lemon in water in the first place (WAY back in the day), was to increase it's acidity and digestive properties.

- It's really best to limit drinking with meals in general.

- Limit sugar and white flour products (yes, I know it's hard!), these things can really compromise our sensitive systems.

I should also mention that the only meat I ate between 19-29 was fish (once or twice per week). I starting eating poultry again at 29 and I still don't eat red meat. Once my rosacea was in full force and I started researching it and learned about the digestive link, it made good sense to me why I developed it at that particular point in my life. I would probably look and feel awesome if I were a vegan, but that's just practical or realistic for me.

Hope this helps someone.

P.S. Yes, it is true that there are non-diet triggers, like intense heat, cold, or exercise, but IMO these things don't have the same impact if the GI tract (and body in general) is healthy. Think the same is true with alcohol. If your system is healthy, alcohol probably wouldn't cause the crazy redness.

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I haven't read the whole thread, so sorry if someone has already suggested this, but have you considered trying IPL?

My problem wasn't as severe as yours, a little bit of ruddiness on my cheeks and nose and a lot of makeup and moisturizers, sunscreens etc would sting and I swear my face would sting for no reason at all sometimes, but IPL helped a lot with the sensitivity and redness. Since my facial acne left and I haven't been using topicals the redness and sensitivity has cleared up a lot also. Emu oil seemed to help a bit too.

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Thanks for the reply postfetalphase.........I have done some research on IPL but I want to wait until I get to speak to my dermatologist about it (which unfortunately isn't until January 2011) - just shows you how many people are dealing with skin problems, what a frickin' wait time.

I've been on topic and oral antibiotics with no real success..........I saw my GP today and he still isn't convinced it's Rosacea.........I have digestive problems and he feels this is related to that, linking it to either Crohns or Collitis (however you spell it).........he feels it's related to Inflammatory Bowel Disease because my skin hasn't responded to anything else that he feels Rosacea would have responded to by now (almost 3 months of pill/topical use). So now I get to put my body through a colonoscopy and other lovely tests...............I give up.

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jessica i used to have the same problem as you.

I figured out that my rosacea was caused by taking too much antibiotics for my acne.

Taking excessive antibiotics depletes the "good bacteria" allowing the bad yeast to take over. Once the yeast takes over so many types of problems occur. For me, I got rosacea, acne, and digestion problems.

What you need to do first and foremost is to stop taking antibiotics. Forget seeing the dermatologist anymore. Screw those creams; you have an internal problem to fix. Search online about candida and see if you share the same symptoms. If so you will have to radically change you diet and take anti-fungals such as raw garlic. Do that religiously for a bout 2-3 months then take probiotics to replenish the good bacteria. I'm also taking raw cabbage juice in the mornings to repair my digestive tract.

good luck!

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StriderHien.......holy cow that's so weird! I have noticed that when I take the antibiotic my face gets worse, and so does the rest of my body........my whole body turns this reddish colour, which is very strange......maybe an allergic reaction? I looked up some information on Candida....and it seems it's very much related to the digestive tract which I have tons of complications with..........it's funny though because the article I read also mentions infections like atlhete's foot........all of my face problems started RIGHT AFTER I had a case of athlete's foot last Fall........and I've never had athlete's foot before.........a lot of the other symptoms I have too: abdominal gas and bloating, headaches, excessive fatigue, anxiety, cravings for sweets, hyperactivity, mood swings, diarrhea, depression, sinus inflammation, dizziness, low sex drive, muscle weakness, irritability, sensitivity to fragrances and/or other chemicals, athlete's foot, indigestion, acid reflux, chronic pain.......crazy! This is something I will definitely be following up on..........THANK YOU SO MUCH!

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