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HOW can you manage these diet restrictions?

I get this huge feeling that beginning the classic "acne diet" (i.e no processed foods, refined sugars, dairy, etc. etc.) is my only hope of clear skin. I've tried a whole bunch of topical stuff, drugstore to organic. But the second I think about starting to restrict the foods I eat and replace it with ones that I tend to never reach for (i.e healthy foods) I want to cry. Never eating a slice of pizza for the rest of my life? No scoops of ice cream? I can just imagine my family or friends wanting to go out and get fast food and I couldn't have any of it. It seems so impossible. You're basically cooped up with options you can only buy at a health food store. I'm afraid of never eating anything when I'm out. For example, there's not many options at a movie concession stand other than nachos and pretzels.

It all sounds really harsh. I am fed up with my skin and I do want to change. I'm taking a multi-vitamin now which I've never done (I do not swallow pills, so I take a powder mixed in milk).

And another ironic thing is, I'm going to cosmetology school in the spring to become a skin care specialist. How weird would that look, a facialist with broke out skin? Sometimes I just get angry that so many don't even THINK about what skincare products they use or what they eat in correlation to their skin.

Back on topic... How hard is it? What do you eat everyday? What do you do when you're traveling? How often do you feel 'left out' or are put in an awkward situation? Has anyone ever made you a meal you had to decline? Where do you shop for your food (lord knows Walmart can't carry me too far)?

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I never feel left out, and yes i've declined many food offers. Over time I just stopped caring about what people thought, and ate what I wanted because I knew it was best. Some people will understand you, some not, but what's important is you eat what you want. It's not that hard when you know it's the right thing to do. For me, eating junk food is what's hard, and I feel sick at the thought.

For example, there's not many options at a movie concession stand other than nachos and pretzels

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I have two suggestions.

First of all, what's great is that a well-thought out anti-acne diet also generally happens to be a pro-health diet. Eating fast food, processed junk and low quality foods is not good for your skin, and its not good for your body. Take charge of your health and you will look and feel better. Exercise is also a very important part of the equation!! Eating well and being in good shape is very empowering too and will only help you to further make good choices for yourself! It will take time to adjust to a new diet, and maybe you should start slowly. Our palates easily become jaded by all the sweets, salts and artificial this and that, and even quite possibly become addicted to bad foods. Which kindof brings me to my next point...

You could become an extreme cynic like me! A main reason I have no desire or temptation whatsoever to eat fastfood or packaged processed foods is that I feel like the companies behind them are profiting from your disease and ill-health. They don't care about your health they're just trying to make a buck. It seriously angers me when I see commercials on TV for shitty cereals marketed to kids and stuff, and it is so easy to just hate the whole system. It goes so much deeper- thinking about the feedlots for animals or the pesticides coating all the food in the market and the genetically modified everything. You really see all the corruption and complete disregard for health in the name of profit and it is just sickening. It makes me want to eat nothing but locally produced organic fruits+vegs, grass-fed beef and wild caught salmon. Also plenty of companies try to deceive you, the consumer with buzzwords - Seven up, now with antioxidants! Or the whole "0 grams of transfats!" (.....per serving... unless of course you want to eat more than 5 chips then you are definitely getting transfat) but of course they would never come out and just say it. Just be above all that shit and say I am not going to be a sheep following these fucking "food" companies Whooo sorry, didn't mean for this to turn into such a rant.

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I have two suggestions.

First of all, what's great is that a well-thought out anti-acne diet also generally happens to be a pro-health diet. Eating fast food, processed junk and low quality foods is not good for your skin, and its not good for your body. Take charge of your health and you will look and feel better. Exercise is also a very important part of the equation!! Eating well and being in good shape is very empowering too and will only help you to further make good choices for yourself! It will take time to adjust to a new diet, and maybe you should start slowly. Our palates easily become jaded by all the sweets, salts and artificial this and that, and even quite possibly become addicted to bad foods. Which kindof brings me to my next point...

You could become an extreme cynic like me! A main reason I have no desire or temptation whatsoever to eat fastfood or packaged processed foods is that I feel like the companies behind them are profiting from your disease and ill-health. They don't care about your health they're just trying to make a buck. It seriously angers me when I see commercials on TV for shitty cereals marketed to kids and stuff, and it is so easy to just hate the whole system. It goes so much deeper- thinking about the feedlots for animals or the pesticides coating all the food in the market and the genetically modified everything. You really see all the corruption and complete disregard for health in the name of profit and it is just sickening. It makes me want to eat nothing but locally produced organic fruits+vegs, grass-fed beef and wild caught salmon. Also plenty of companies try to deceive you, the consumer with buzzwords - Seven up, now with antioxidants! Or the whole "0 grams of transfats!" (.....per serving... unless of course you want to eat more than 5 chips then you are definitely getting transfat) but of course they would never come out and just say it. Just be above all that shit and say I am not going to be a sheep following these fucking "food" companies Whooo sorry, didn't mean for this to turn into such a rant.

Well said. I completely COMPLETELY agree.

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I have two suggestions.

First of all, what's great is that a well-thought out anti-acne diet also generally happens to be a pro-health diet. Eating fast food, processed junk and low quality foods is not good for your skin, and its not good for your body. Take charge of your health and you will look and feel better. Exercise is also a very important part of the equation!! Eating well and being in good shape is very empowering too and will only help you to further make good choices for yourself! It will take time to adjust to a new diet, and maybe you should start slowly. Our palates easily become jaded by all the sweets, salts and artificial this and that, and even quite possibly become addicted to bad foods. Which kindof brings me to my next point...

You could become an extreme cynic like me! A main reason I have no desire or temptation whatsoever to eat fastfood or packaged processed foods is that I feel like the companies behind them are profiting from your disease and ill-health. They don't care about your health they're just trying to make a buck. It seriously angers me when I see commercials on TV for shitty cereals marketed to kids and stuff, and it is so easy to just hate the whole system. It goes so much deeper- thinking about the feedlots for animals or the pesticides coating all the food in the market and the genetically modified everything. You really see all the corruption and complete disregard for health in the name of profit and it is just sickening. It makes me want to eat nothing but locally produced organic fruits+vegs, grass-fed beef and wild caught salmon. Also plenty of companies try to deceive you, the consumer with buzzwords - Seven up, now with antioxidants! Or the whole "0 grams of transfats!" (.....per serving... unless of course you want to eat more than 5 chips then you are definitely getting transfat) but of course they would never come out and just say it. Just be above all that shit and say I am not going to be a sheep following these fucking "food" companies Whooo sorry, didn't mean for this to turn into such a rant.

Well said. I completely COMPLETELY agree.

Thanks Drizzler! I agree with you. I'm so sick of false information. But I know the MINUTE I see some pancakes drizzled in syrup from Denny's or something, I'll die. Which is telling me I'm 80% addicted to crap food. Maybe I do need to start out slower... I tried telling myself "Okay. Just try eliminating one thing, start with dairy." ...yet I caved pretty quickly when cheese was on a burrito at a Mexican restaurant. Which I suppose I wouldn't even be able to eat there if I followed a fairly strict diet. ...It again brings me back to the idea that I can't even go out and enjoy a meal at a restaurant if everyone else is. So I'm thinking it's also 20% "peer pressure" (so to speak)... my fear of looking different and having to dodge bullets. Having to go back to my own home and eat an approved food.

Oy vey. I'm pretty much fighting with myself at this point.

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I think you are making it sound worse than it actually is. Most people have "cheat meals" where you can eat these types of food (just don't over eat them). Just limit it to, say, 2 meals a week (or however many it takes to keep you eating "clean" most of the time, doing something is better than doing nothing). I think it is hard but very doable. Nothing good comes without effort.

To me, it forced me to learn how to cook, and cook well. I don't think you can stay eating "healthy" if you don't know how to cook properly. My meals are delicious, and I enjoy every single one of them. I don't cheat just because I am trying to clear my acne completely. After that happens I can see how much I can cheat without it becoming an issue.

Don't kill yourself over it, people just worry too much and get their heads polluted. If you slipped today, forget about ti and get back at it tomorrow.

PS: those cheat meals I talked about are not spontaneous cheats, but rather a meal you planned to cheat in.

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You don't 'never eat these things again for the rest of your life.' You just mostly eat very well most days. It's not hard at all. Just start eating more good, real, nutrient dense foods and less crap. And I don't know why you want to blow so much money on way overpriced crap at a movie theater anyway.

There are many lists of what people eat in a day in the Food and Recipe thread under Important Topics.

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I get this huge feeling that beginning the classic "acne diet" (i.e no processed foods, refined sugars, dairy, etc. etc.) is my only hope of clear skin. I've tried a whole bunch of topical stuff, drugstore to organic. But the second I think about starting to restrict the foods I eat and replace it with ones that I tend to never reach for (i.e healthy foods) I want to cry. Never eating a slice of pizza for the rest of my life? No scoops of ice cream? I can just imagine my family or friends wanting to go out and get fast food and I couldn't have any of it. It seems so impossible. You're basically cooped up with options you can only buy at a health food store. I'm afraid of never eating anything when I'm out. For example, there's not many options at a movie concession stand other than nachos and pretzels.

It all sounds really harsh. I am fed up with my skin and I do want to change. I'm taking a multi-vitamin now which I've never done (I do not swallow pills, so I take a powder mixed in milk).

And another ironic thing is, I'm going to cosmetology school in the spring to become a skin care specialist. How weird would that look, a facialist with broke out skin? Sometimes I just get angry that so many don't even THINK about what skincare products they use or what they eat in correlation to their skin.

Back on topic... How hard is it? What do you eat everyday? What do you do when you're traveling? How often do you feel 'left out' or are put in an awkward situation? Has anyone ever made you a meal you had to decline? Where do you shop for your food (lord knows Walmart can't carry me too far)?

The first thing you should do is.. AVOID MILK.. ALL DAIRY

I PROMISE.. it's hard though I know.. but TRUST ME.

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Honestly, I was just about to post up a topic very similar :surprised:.

Anyway, I find it difficult to avoid all the "bad" stuff (dairy, sugar, processed anything, fried food etc). Recently, I've been taking extreme care to avoid any of those but I'm trying to narrow down the list to see what really triggers my acne. Personally, I've found that sugar and processed foods are my main causes. Usually it's food with high fructose corn syrup and other sugar imposters that really flair up my skin, usually in the sense of painful nodules. Food's that have REAL sugar in it don't really seem to bother my skin. On a previous religious holiday I enjoyed a small dessert that a family member made and it did not bother my skin.

My question, however, is the same as yours. Will I have to maintain this diet for the rest of my life? I want to be able to enjoy the good stuff occasionally without having to worry about my skin flairing up. :redface:. It would really suck to be 25 and not be able to have a nice piece of cake for my birthday because I have to worry about getting acne within the next few days

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I get this huge feeling that beginning the classic "acne diet" (i.e no processed foods, refined sugars, dairy, etc. etc.) is my only hope of clear skin. I've tried a whole bunch of topical stuff, drugstore to organic. But the second I think about starting to restrict the foods I eat and replace it with ones that I tend to never reach for (i.e healthy foods) I want to cry. Never eating a slice of pizza for the rest of my life? No scoops of ice cream? I can just imagine my family or friends wanting to go out and get fast food and I couldn't have any of it. It seems so impossible. You're basically cooped up with options you can only buy at a health food store. I'm afraid of never eating anything when I'm out. For example, there's not many options at a movie concession stand other than nachos and pretzels.

It all sounds really harsh. I am fed up with my skin and I do want to change. I'm taking a multi-vitamin now which I've never done (I do not swallow pills, so I take a powder mixed in milk).

And another ironic thing is, I'm going to cosmetology school in the spring to become a skin care specialist. How weird would that look, a facialist with broke out skin? Sometimes I just get angry that so many don't even THINK about what skincare products they use or what they eat in correlation to their skin.

Back on topic... How hard is it? What do you eat everyday? What do you do when you're traveling? How often do you feel 'left out' or are put in an awkward situation? Has anyone ever made you a meal you had to decline? Where do you shop for your food (lord knows Walmart can't carry me too far)?

The first thing you should do is.. AVOID MILK.. ALL DAIRY

I PROMISE.. it's hard though I know.. but TRUST ME.

She said she was but caved. Tbh I'm at the same place right now. I keep yelling at myself for it, but whenever I'm at Del Taco with my friends or whatever, and just go for a water or fries, I'll eventually cave and have to waste my good money and sacrifice my good health (in particular, my face) for some chili-cheese fries. I really like that rant on the monopolizing industries that just pump out junk with no adherence to the customer... Why does Del Taco even HAVE chili-cheese fries?! Is American food and culture really that corrupt?! Keeps me on my toes. There's a reason for everything. Cancer doesn't come out of nowhere, although sometimes it's impossible to avoid in today's genetically modified, pesticide/atrezine covered, monopolized world.

The one issue with eating great, healthy foods all the time is cost. I have noticed that eating quality grass-fed Chuck beef has none of the same side effects I'll get from maybe Del Taco or takeout beef. But the stuff is just insanely expensive and it takes so much effort to make... Acne is more of a result of my laziness than it is to diet in general.

The restricted diet, just like all the exercise, time management, and hygiene practices, can be done, it just takes more dedication than I have.

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I don't know

how can people maintain such restrictive diets is beyond me

I've been trying for like a year, it's just that it takes so long to clear, but only one moment of weakness to find yourself back to where you started

I've gone 3 weeks without cheating and then one day I was hanging out with my friends and ate some cake and BAM. The next day I have a bunch of cysts again. GOD FUCK DAMMIT

anyway, look at this persons post it's similar http://www.acne.org/messageboard/takes-liv...if-t237642.html

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I get this huge feeling that beginning the classic "acne diet" (i.e no processed foods, refined sugars, dairy, etc. etc.) is my only hope of clear skin. I've tried a whole bunch of topical stuff, drugstore to organic. But the second I think about starting to restrict the foods I eat and replace it with ones that I tend to never reach for (i.e healthy foods) I want to cry. Never eating a slice of pizza for the rest of my life? No scoops of ice cream? I can just imagine my family or friends wanting to go out and get fast food and I couldn't have any of it. It seems so impossible. You're basically cooped up with options you can only buy at a health food store. I'm afraid of never eating anything when I'm out. For example, there's not many options at a movie concession stand other than nachos and pretzels.

It all sounds really harsh. I am fed up with my skin and I do want to change. I'm taking a multi-vitamin now which I've never done (I do not swallow pills, so I take a powder mixed in milk).

And another ironic thing is, I'm going to cosmetology school in the spring to become a skin care specialist. How weird would that look, a facialist with broke out skin? Sometimes I just get angry that so many don't even THINK about what skincare products they use or what they eat in correlation to their skin.

Back on topic... How hard is it? What do you eat everyday? What do you do when you're traveling? How often do you feel 'left out' or are put in an awkward situation? Has anyone ever made you a meal you had to decline? Where do you shop for your food (lord knows Walmart can't carry me too far)?

The first thing you should do is.. AVOID MILK.. ALL DAIRY

I PROMISE.. it's hard though I know.. but TRUST ME.

She said she was but caved. Tbh I'm at the same place right now. I keep yelling at myself for it, but whenever I'm at Del Taco with my friends or whatever, and just go for a water or fries, I'll eventually cave and have to waste my good money and sacrifice my good health (in particular, my face) for some chili-cheese fries. I really like that rant on the monopolizing industries that just pump out junk with no adherence to the customer... Why does Del Taco even HAVE chili-cheese fries?! Is American food and culture really that corrupt?! Keeps me on my toes. There's a reason for everything. Cancer doesn't come out of nowhere, although sometimes it's impossible to avoid in today's genetically modified, pesticide/atrezine covered, monopolized world.

The one issue with eating great, healthy foods all the time is cost. I have noticed that eating quality grass-fed Chuck beef has none of the same side effects I'll get from maybe Del Taco or takeout beef. But the stuff is just insanely expensive and it takes so much effort to make... Acne is more of a result of my laziness than it is to diet in general.

The restricted diet, just like all the exercise, time management, and hygiene practices, can be done, it just takes more dedication than I have.

Dude. We're sharing the same mind at the moment. Lol. That's pretty much how I feel. Basically, I'm trying to do everything in my power supplement wise right now... basically half assing it with vitamins. It makes it more difficult since I do not swallow pills... I'm always in search of powder or liquid form. I know that I am missing the most important part of the equation, good diet.

But, another issue I have is my boyfriend. He's really unsupportive. I wanted to try going vegan, and he could've really cared less. Actually, I think he was a little upset. Because we talk about all the things we want to do together, and they usually include massive amounts of food. That, and he doesn't really care what I look like at all. A lot of times he tries to raise my confidence and tell me he'll love me no matter what- and I appreciate that, I do. But I don't think he gets that clear skin is something I need for myself.

Another thing holding me back is parents. My Mom cannot eat gluten, so basically her diet consists of potato chips and chocolate. Lots of cheese and meat.

I think basically, the ONLY reason I could make a big change in my diet is changing my entire mindset. I could not view food as a pleasure or a comfort. I would have to view it as a ritual you must do to stay alive, something that you just 'have' to do. I would basically need to treat it as a more spiritual thing- "Time to eat my flax seed and rocks now with chopsticks while sitting in a yoga pose." ...HAHA, a little bird just landed on my windowsill as I wrote that.

I just realized kind of sound like someone that struggles with their weight... but I'm in a healthy BMI range. And I do not care too much about my weight, surprisingly. I just... love food. o.o

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I could not view food as a pleasure or a comfort. I would have to view it as a ritual you must do to stay alive, something that you just 'have' to do. I would basically need to treat it as a more spiritual thing- "Time to eat my flax seed and rocks now with chopsticks while sitting in a yoga pose."

Umm. How about trying delicious meals of real food like salmon and broccoli instead?

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I could not view food as a pleasure or a comfort. I would have to view it as a ritual you must do to stay alive, something that you just 'have' to do. I would basically need to treat it as a more spiritual thing- "Time to eat my flax seed and rocks now with chopsticks while sitting in a yoga pose."

Umm. How about trying delicious meals of real food like salmon and broccoli instead?

That's one of my favorite meals. But for example, I just ate some frozen pizza my Dad baked. I kind of have to eat what's put in front of me. I'm at the mercy of what my parents buy. And my parents get psyched about their meals... I couldn't imagine not eating some pizza when my Dad calls out "I made us pizza! Come eat with me and watch a movie."

And even when I do buy my own food in a couple years, I'll most likely be eating with my boyfriend and I pick out. Which will be crap food. The world just makes me sick. I wish I didn't have any other choice but to eat healthy, that none of this crap food existed. Like Drizzler had pointed out, I feel sort of addicted to 'junk' food. I had a banana this morning and it didn't even taste right.

I thought about what I'd have to do if I stayed at someone else's house. I'd have to go shopping for some food to eat. I go on vacations to my Aunt's house during holiday breaks. They eat '0 grams transfat' stuff... all of the classic "diet" food that contains aspartame lol.

So in my mind... getting clear skin from a healthy diet is almost as stressful as having acne. Because that means I have a 'special' diet to maintain for the rest of my life.

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I could not view food as a pleasure or a comfort. I would have to view it as a ritual you must do to stay alive, something that you just 'have' to do. I would basically need to treat it as a more spiritual thing- "Time to eat my flax seed and rocks now with chopsticks while sitting in a yoga pose."

Umm. How about trying delicious meals of real food like salmon and broccoli instead?

That's one of my favorite meals. But for example, I just ate some frozen pizza my Dad baked. I kind of have to eat what's put in front of me. I'm at the mercy of what my parents buy. And my parents get psyched about their meals... I couldn't imagine not eating some pizza when my Dad calls out "I made us pizza! Come eat with me and watch a movie."

So have a little pizza and a lot of romaine, spinach or other nutrient dense green salad. Or a lot of sauteed greens with garlic. And maybe get involved in the pizza making to experiment with ways to make them healthier. Shouldn't be that hard to convince the family to try things with a mother that's gluten intolerant.

But I don't get how your difficulties with the people you live with and their crap diets leads to "I could not view food as a pleasure or a comfort. I would have to view it as a ritual you must do to stay alive, something that you just 'have' to do. I would basically need to treat it as a more spiritual thing- "Time to eat my flax seed and rocks now with chopsticks while sitting in a yoga pose."

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Recently I cut out all processed food, sugar, bread etc. At first, it was hard, but you really do get used to it eventually.

I've had red marks all over my face for 5 years now, and I'm finally seeing improvement after the first week. And it's not just small improvements either. My facial redness has been dramatically reduced and the red marks are healing very quickly. I got a few spots at first, and I think this was because of the sudden change, but not I'm not getting any.

Incase you want to know, my diet consists of the following

Chicken/Turkey

Apples/Strawberries

Almonds/Cashew Nuts << These are very good, and I believe the almonds have helped a lot!

Romaine Lettuce/Tomatoes

Porridge

At least 9 pints of water a day.

Chew your food and get plently of sleep, too. You'll be seeing improvements in no time if you follow this and don't give in to foods that are bad for you. Believe me.

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