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Cystic Acne

Hello everyone

Im quite new to the site (been using regimen but never been a member) but Ive decided to subscribe because its actually my last hope.

Im 25 years old and Ive never had ANY spots until a year ago. I dont even know where it came from as I havent changed my diet or make up products.Anyways.I went to see my GP and they kept giving me oxytricalin (i think thats how it spelled) and ive been on it for about 6 month and it hasnt helped.then ive started using more and more different creams which seems to make it even worse until Ive started getting cysts (on my chin, thats the only place I get spots) up until the point I had to go to a hospital because I couldnt even eat thats how painful it was.The doctor there gave me antibiotics such as Fucilin (not sure if thats the right name) and Ive been on it for about a month and the situation has improved especially after I went on holiday. After I came back my GP said that so the acne doesnt come back and to get rid of scars I have to use BP for 3 months so I have (I have actually started regimen). This week is the last week of 3 months course and it got worse and worse again, now I hardly ever get spots just cysts. My GP wouldnt refer me to a dermatologist (bloody NHS!) and I cant take Accutane/birth control pills as I have a very bad reaction to those.

I work in banking and mostly with clients and Im actually scared Im gonna loose my job because of my face.

PLEASE HELP ME!

sad:((((

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odv,

I understand how you feel...

I reached the end of my tether with NHS not taking me seriously with VERY BAD pregnancy acne...

if it is effecting you this much, it might be worth going to see a private dermatologist ( I gave up on NHS after 2-3 months and took matters to a Derm I paid for myself)

It has very much been worth it- my treatment options are limited for the time being- same as yours- but mine because i am pregnant, but the derm has prescribed me several oral and topical creams/pills which have got me down to 90% clear

I would say the money spent on Derm is worth it if you are unhappy/unable to go on with normal life because of acne...

I am a banker too- very client facing stuff- its horrid going into meetings with a breakout but makeup helps ! I can recommend Mac studio fix...

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I am very sorry for your situation. Currently we are changing our health care system in the United States under President Obama. Your issues with the NHS are precisely what we fear here. I would say that if you can, you should endeavor to see a dermatologist, even though you must pay for the visit and treatments yourself.

You say that you cannot take accutane. How do you know this if you have never had an acne problem before? Accutane and birth control pills are two very different types of medication.

Wishing you all the best,

Joe Zit

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I dont even know where it came from as I havent changed my diet or make up products.

Changes in stress? Sleep? Exercise? Are you sure you haven't changed diet? More sodas, juices or other sugary drinks and snacks? Daily Starbucks or starbucks equivalent?

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I agree with the previous posters - pay for a visit to a private dermatologist. Also, I am guessing (?) you are a woman? If that is the case - have you researched spironolactone. It is a medicine prescribed off-label here in the us for women and acne. It has some similar effects to accutane and blocks androgens thought to cause hormonal acne in women (acne around the chin/mouth). You will find a lot of women on this board are using it successfully. Good luck.

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does exercise affect a lot on acne?? or can i use exercise to relieve the stress instead?

It helps with stress, sleep, circulation and is one of the best thins your can do for stable blood sugar. Excess insulin stimulates the hormones that cause acne.

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odv,

I understand how you feel...

I reached the end of my tether with NHS not taking me seriously with VERY BAD pregnancy acne...

if it is effecting you this much, it might be worth going to see a private dermatologist ( I gave up on NHS after 2-3 months and took matters to a Derm I paid for myself)

It has very much been worth it- my treatment options are limited for the time being- same as yours- but mine because i am pregnant, but the derm has prescribed me several oral and topical creams/pills which have got me down to 90% clear

I would say the money spent on Derm is worth it if you are unhappy/unable to go on with normal life because of acne...

I am a banker too- very client facing stuff- its horrid going into meetings with a breakout but makeup helps ! I can recommend Mac studio fix...

if you are in UK, what Derm did you go and see and how much did it cost you?

thanks!

I am very sorry for your situation. Currently we are changing our health care system in the United States under President Obama. Your issues with the NHS are precisely what we fear here. I would say that if you can, you should endeavor to see a dermatologist, even though you must pay for the visit and treatments yourself.

You say that you cannot take accutane. How do you know this if you have never had an acne problem before? Accutane and birth control pills are two very different types of medication.

Wishing you all the best,

Joe Zit

well ive been told by the gp that accutane has the same effect on hormones as pills ie i feel dizzy and i keep throwing up:-s.

I agree with the previous posters - pay for a visit to a private dermatologist. Also, I am guessing (?) you are a woman? If that is the case - have you researched spironolactone. It is a medicine prescribed off-label here in the us for women and acne. It has some similar effects to accutane and blocks androgens thought to cause hormonal acne in women (acne around the chin/mouth). You will find a lot of women on this board are using it successfully. Good luck.

thanks for the advice!can you get those tablets without prescription?my mum lives in us and i assupe she could get me those...

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I dont even know where it came from as I havent changed my diet or make up products.

Changes in stress? Sleep? Exercise? Are you sure you haven't changed diet? More sodas, juices or other sugary drinks and snacks? Daily Starbucks or starbucks equivalent?

Thanks Alternativista!

Well I have decided to go on a diet of just meat and veg and then see how that goes.Maybe I became allergic to something suddenly...also a very bizzarre question but...my wisdom teeth started to com out at the same time and are still coming out...may that be a problem?

Also going to go and see the GP next week to beg him to refer me to a derm!

Thanks ill keep everyone updated!

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odv - it sounds like you suffer from hormonal acne, like me. painful cysts on the chin area but nowhere else.

I am 39 y/o female and been dealing with the cysts on and off since I was a teenage. Over the years tried everything under the sun, some temporarily helped but once my system became used to them it would go back to flaring again. Hate to say it but my skin is worse now than in my twenties, my hormones must be raging.

You may want to look into Spironolactone. It has helped me tremendously. I am not on a high enough dose for it to completely clear my chin, i still get them here and there but not as bad. I also recently started using the topical Aczone which seems to be helping a lot with lessening inflamation and keep new cysts from forming, helping them go away faster, etc.

I recently switched to organic dairy and that seems to be helping as well.

Sadly some of us don't just "outgrow" acne, particularly this kind..and a lot of meds out there don't work on the cystic hormonal kind.

I will tell you that when I tried treating my cysts with BP, my face exploded and it made them so much worse! BP seems to work really well on normal acne like little whiteheads and the non inflamed variety but in my experience it is horrible for cysts. Just an FYI

I wish I went on Spiro a lot sooner, the only thing is you have to drink a lot of water so you dont get dizzy and dehydrate.

Good luck to you I know how horrible it can be.

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odv - it sounds like you suffer from hormonal acne, like me. painful cysts on the chin area but nowhere else.

I am 39 y/o female and been dealing with the cysts on and off since I was a teenage. Over the years tried everything under the sun, some temporarily helped but once my system became used to them it would go back to flaring again. Hate to say it but my skin is worse now than in my twenties, my hormones must be raging.

You may want to look into Spironolactone. It has helped me tremendously. I am not on a high enough dose for it to completely clear my chin, i still get them here and there but not as bad. I also recently started using the topical Aczone which seems to be helping a lot with lessening inflamation and keep new cysts from forming, helping them go away faster, etc.

I recently switched to organic dairy and that seems to be helping as well.

Sadly some of us don't just "outgrow" acne, particularly this kind..and a lot of meds out there don't work on the cystic hormonal kind.

I will tell you that when I tried treating my cysts with BP, my face exploded and it made them so much worse! BP seems to work really well on normal acne like little whiteheads and the non inflamed variety but in my experience it is horrible for cysts. Just an FYI

I wish I went on Spiro a lot sooner, the only thing is you have to drink a lot of water so you dont get dizzy and dehydrate.

Good luck to you I know how horrible it can be.

thanks very much green eyes!!!i have an appointment with gp (again!) next week tuesday so i will mention this to him.I also found out that I can do hormonal test which im going to beg him for and also an allergy test.

But I will keep you posted!!!

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I dont even know where it came from as I havent changed my diet or make up products.

Changes in stress? Sleep? Exercise? Are you sure you haven't changed diet? More sodas, juices or other sugary drinks and snacks? Daily Starbucks or starbucks equivalent?

Thanks Alternativista!

Well I have decided to go on a diet of just meat and veg and then see how that goes.Maybe I became allergic to something suddenly...also a very bizzarre question but...my wisdom teeth started to com out at the same time and are still coming out...may that be a problem?

Not that I know of, but someone recently posted a poll asking who had their wisdom teeth out. I don't remember which forum, and at the time I saw it, the poster hadn't explain his or her reasonings.

Also, the cysts I used to get on my chin, and jawline, hairline, neck, etc, turned out to be a reaction to oranges and similar citrus. Which I figured out from a coworker who got them only on her chin and otherwise had perfect skin. Except when she drank orange juice.

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OMG,havent been here for ages, been very busy with work.

Ok thats my progress for now:

since the mid august Ive stopped using BP and any other antibiotics. I went on a diet of practically no wheat and no dairy at all (just soya milk), also been drinking loads of green tea and started taking Primrose Evening Oil as it supposed to help women's hormones. And since then I havent had ANY new breakouts. I mean there are still scars from the old ones but NOTHING NEW :dance: by the way, DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO GET RID OF CYSTIC SCARS?mine are red/purple and some of them have dents too but not big ones...

Anyways.I went back to my GP to convince him to do a blood test to check for my hormones as it was suggested but one of the girls here. i got my blood results last week and he said they were absolutely fine and my hormones are fine.At the same time I have run out of the Primrose evening oil and also when I went for the blood test, GP prescribed me Tretinoin Gel 0.01% (I think its a type of RetinA or smth).My right cheek got swallen and 2 new cysts came out:( i dont know wether its because of no primrose oil or retin a.

so basically now GP is sayin that my only option is antibiotics for 6 motnhs AGAIN. he still wouldnt refer me to a derm because my acne has improved and he said its not serious enough to referm me to the derm and the waiting list is about 2 months anyways.but Im scared cysts will be back!!!

CONFUSED NOW!!!

p.s.my mum does facials ie massages and she said to use sudocrem but it makes my skin very oily...

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I can't help you but from what I've been reading on here it seems like US's health services are pretty fucked up...

I live in UK :-s

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I can't help you but from what I've been reading on here it seems like US's health services are pretty fucked up...

I live in UK :-s

Yea but I seriously don't get it, why won't doctors refer to the specialist? This is completely wrong, you don't pay taxes to be treated this way!!

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I can't help you but from what I've been reading on here it seems like US's health services are pretty fucked up...

I live in UK :-s

Yea but I seriously don't get it, why won't doctors refer to the specialist? This is completely wrong, you don't pay taxes to be treated this way!!

This is totally incorrect. I'm in the UK, and was referred to a derm by my GP (and prescribed accutane, GP had tried other meds). This is how the process works, and it works fine (there will be some GPs that are better than others naturally). You can pretty much insist on a referral if you want, not many doctors will say no. The best docs always refer if its not one of their specialities. If yours doesn't, change your doc! Never stand for a doc that won't refer you. You have that entitlement also. You can also choose where you are seen (both docs and hospitals for derm).

And its a lot better than the U.S! At least every single person in the country is entitled to medical support and a derm if needed irrespective of financial wellbeing. I don't want to get the topic sidetracked, but the stories when someone in the U.S says they can't afford to see someone or pay for medication makes me fume! Everyone should be entitled to be looked at and treated.

Back on topic, I'd firstly look at diet. At least get that healthy to support everything else, especially any medication. Cut out all the sugar and starch (bread, potatoes, sugar drinks, sweets etc). There are solutions (I used to have cystic acne for 25 years and its the biggest evil out there imo), accutane or b5 worked for me, but I wish I'd looked to diet a lot sooner, I spent so long eating badly when I think back. There is help out there, just sometimes takes a bit of pushing and digging, but stick with it, you will get clearer.

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i will thanks!i will also start using hydrogen peroxide as ive heard its very good to washing your face but i cant find it in shops here in uk:( anyone knows?thanks!

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hi Odv, I too was on Oxytetracycline (dunno if it'spelt like that neither, lol) and it make no difference what so ever! I also got prescribed BP and that was too harsh for my skin as it dried it out and made my skin really peely.I have been suffering with acne for 8 years and am fed up with it so i know where your coming from.But don't think that your skin will effect your job! Loads of people suffer with bad skin and it has noth8ing to do with how capable ypou are at your job. And if your colleagues have a problem with it then it just goes to show how shallow people really are .

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i will thanks!i will also start using hydrogen peroxide as ive heard its very good to washing your face but i cant find it in shops here in uk:( anyone knows?thanks!

Where did you hear this? Please do not use hydrogen peroxide on your face if you're still suffering from breakouts. The lesions will not heal smoothly if they're being treated with HP. This thread explains why: http://www.acne.org/messageboard/Hydrogen-...+peroxide++face

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i will thanks!i will also start using hydrogen peroxide as ive heard its very good to washing your face but i cant find it in shops here in uk:( anyone knows?thanks!

Where did you hear this? Please do not use hydrogen peroxide on your face if you're still suffering from breakouts. The lesions will not heal smoothly if they're being treated with HP. This thread explains why: http://www.acne.org/messageboard/Hydrogen-...+peroxide++face

I did a facial couple of days ago and the girlwho did it recommended it.i finally found it in boots by the way 3% so she said to dilute it with water ie tea spoon of hp with tea spoon of water and then soak a cotton wool in it and wipe your face.I will try it on the small area first and then will see the result. if it helps i will try to wipe all my face with it. the thing is i dont have any break outs anymore since this cheek one becaus eof retin-a that ive stopped using; but the scars are still there and i dont know how to get rid of them so i guess i need to try hp...unless anyone can recommend how to get rid of scars...

hi Odv, I too was on Oxytetracycline (dunno if it'spelt like that neither, lol) and it make no difference what so ever! I also got prescribed BP and that was too harsh for my skin as it dried it out and made my skin really peely.I have been suffering with acne for 8 years and am fed up with it so i know where your coming from.But don't think that your skin will effect your job! Loads of people suffer with bad skin and it has noth8ing to do with how capable ypou are at your job. And if your colleagues have a problem with it then it just goes to show how shallow people really are .

oh no i dont think ill loose my job but its just embarissing when you go to meetings and you know your face is screwed...i was very depressed over it couple of months ago, i think especially because I never used to have any spots at all even in my teens so it was just like ruining my face completely. but thanks for this message i really appreciate it.do you still suffer from acne and what are you using?

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