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i have bad acne. should i not use SOAP in the shower?

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i have bad cystic acne (to me anyways, because i can get these 1 or 2 nasty boils it's extremely depressing) and i heard it's best to use as little soap or no soap at all when cleansing your face so that you don't dry out your face. and using just water will maintain the natural moisture on your face so that your face doesn't automatically signal for more oil. if it signals for more oil, that means more oil will cause acne to appear. so is this true? soap being not good for acne? i heard from some other user elsewhere on the web saying "soap in any form is bad for acne you should try a soap free cleanser like nutrogena

bar soap is especially bad because the ingredients they use to make it keep it its shape, some even have animal fats " another user also said "dont use soap.soap leaves acne aggravating residue behind. " I REALLY DESPERATELY want to get rid of my cystic acne because i've been suffering for 8 years! and i'm 21 in college now!! :'(. don't recommend accutane, i'm already on it. i am on my 3rd round at 40mg. and i'm still getting cystic acne even though i'm almost finished the 2nd month.

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i have bad cystic acne (to me anyways, because i can get these 1 or 2 nasty boils it's extremely depressing) and i heard it's best to use as little soap or no soap at all when cleansing your face so that you don't dry out your face. and using just water will maintain the natural moisture on your face so that your face doesn't automatically signal for more oil. if it signals for more oil, that means more oil will cause acne to appear. so is this true?

No. A lack of moisture in your face doesn't "signal for more oil" (at least, it doesn't signal for more sebum). That's just a myth.

Now having said that, there _may_ be some truth to the theory that washing your face with ordinary bar soap isn't good for acne. But even if that's correct, it has nothing to do with "signalling for more oil (sebum)". It has to do with some bad chemical properties of bar soap, and their effect on delicate acne-prone skin.

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ok gotcha. thanks alot for the reply Bryan!

Yeah, just check out the ingredients in some common soaps:

Irish Spring:

Soap (Sodium Tallowate, Sodium Cocoate, and/Or Sodium Palm Kerelate), Water, Hydrogenated Tallow Acid (Skin Conditioner), Coconut Acid, Glycerin (Skin Conditioner), Fragrance, Sodium Chloride, Pentasodium Pentetae, Pentaerythityl Tetra-Di-T-Butyl Hydroxyhydrocinnamate, Titanium Dioxide, D&C Green No, 8, Fd&C Green No.3.

Dove Gentle Exfoliating:

Sodium Cococyl Isethionate, Stearic Acid, Sodium Tallowate, Coconut Acid, Sodium Isethionate, Water, Sodium Stearate, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Sodium Cocoate, Palm Kernelate, Fragrance, Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower Seed Oil), Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E Acetate), Sodium Chloride, Polyethylene, Tetrasodium EDTA, Tetrasodium Etidronate, Titanium Dioxide (CI 77891), Blue 1 Lake (Cl 42090)

Dial:

Active: Triclocarban 0.60%. Inactive: Soap (Sodium Cocoate*, Sodium Palm Kernelate*, Sodium Palmate*, Sodium Tallowate*), Water (Aqua), Talc, Coconut Acid*, Palm Acid*, Tallow Acid*, Peg-6 Methyl Ether, Fragrance (Parfum), Glycerin, Sorbitol, Sodium Chloride, Pentasodium Pentetate, Tetrasodium Etidronate, Titanium Dioxide (Ci 77891). *Contains One Or More of These Ingredients.

Coast:

Soap (Sodium Cocoate8, Sodium Palm Kernelate*, Sodium Palmate*, Sodium Tallowate*), Water (Aqua), Talc, Coconut Acid*, Palm Acid*, Tallow Acid*, Palm Kernel Acid*, Fragrance (Parfum), Glycerin, Sorbitol, Sodium Chloride, Pentasodium Pentetate, Tetrasodium Etidronate, Titanium Dioxide (Ci 77891), Ultramarines (Ci 77007), Chromium Hydroxide Green (Ci 77289). *Contains One Or More of These Ingredients.

Lever 2000:

Sodium Tallowate, Sodium Cocoate, Water, Stearic Acid, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Sodium Chloride, Fragrance, Sodium Methyl 2-Sulfolaurate, Petrolatum, Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E), Mineral Oil, Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower)Seed Oil, Glycerin, Coconut Acid, Sodium Stearate, Disodium 2-Sulfolaurate, Tetrasodium Edta, Tetrasodium Etidronate, Bht, Titanium Dioxide.

Tone w/ Cocoa Butter:

Soap (Sodium Cocoate, Sodium Palm Kernelate, Sodium Palmate, Sodium Tallowate), Water (Aqua), Talc, Coconut Acid, Palm Acid, Tallow Acid, Peg-12, Fragrance (Parfum), Theobroma Cocoa (Cocoa) Seed Butter, Glycerin, Sorbitol, Sodium Chloride, Propylene Glycol (and) Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice (and ) Theobroma Cacao (Cocoa) Extract (and) Carica Payapa (Payapa) Fruit Extract, Decyl Glucoside, Pentasodium Pentetate, Tetrasodium Etidronate, Titatium Dioxide (Ci 77891), Iron Oxide (Ci 77491) (and) Talc (Ci 77718).

Zest:

Sodium Tallowate and/Or Sodium Palmate, Sodium Cocoate and/Or Sodium Palm Kernelate, Sodium Cocoglyceryl Ether Sulfonate, Magnesium Tallowate and/Or Magnesium Palmate, Water, Talc, Magnesium Cocoate and/Or Magnesium Pal Kernelate, Sodium Chloride, Fragrance, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract, Malva Sylvestris (Mallow) Flower Extract, Tocopherol, Titanium Dioxide, Coconut Acid, Palm Kernel Acid, Tallow Acid, Palm Acid, Green 3, Yellow 10

Olay Ultra Moisture:

Sodium Cocoyl Isethionate, Paraffin, Sodium Cocoglyceryl Ether Sulfonate, Glycerin, Water, Talc, Magnesium Stearate, Stearic Acid, Sodium Isethionate, Magnesium Cocoate, Sodium Stearate, Coconut Acid, Sodium Chloride, Sodium Cocoate, Fragrance, Magnesium Laurate, Lauric Acid, Titanium Dioxide, Sodium Laurate, Tetrasodium Edta, Etidronic Acid, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter) Extract, Peg-90M

Ivory:

Sodium Tallowate and/Or Sodium Palmate, Water, Sodium Cocoate and/Or Sodium Palm Kernelate, Glycerin, Sodium Chloride, Fragrance, Coconut Acid, Palm Kernel Acid, Tallow Acid, Palm Acid, Tetrasodium Edta

I mean ... yeesh. Most of that I can't even pronounce, let alone have a clue what they can do to a person. I'm not sure I would want it on my skin, let alone my face.

So I'd say soap isn't necessarily bad. It's what could be IN most of the common soaps that's the problem.

I dunno about a homemade soap bar, though. One made out of quality oils/animal fats and lye. That could be a whole different story.

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