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Could The Regimen Work For Me?

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Hello,

I've been on the site for awhile now, and my acne problems have stemmed the last 4 years. Due to various treatments, topicals, emotional health and exercise, I've had about a year of clear skin in the midst of that. In February of this year my skin became quite inflamed again and it's been on and off with a mild-moderate but frustrating and upsetting quality for about the last 5 - 6 months now.

I have avoided Dan's Regimen all this time, because my skin is extremely sensitive and I get very worried about putting chemicals on it, so have tried a lot of holistic alternatives. I started taking Dianette 6 weeks ago, due to my ongoing distress, but have had little success so far. Do you think the regimen could help?

Thanks,

Grace

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The regimen is awesome on inflamed acne, so if that's your primary skin issue, I think it would be well-suited for treating your acne.

That said, I think BCPs like Dianette are generally supposed to take several months to clear you up, so 6 weeks is a little early to pass judgment if you're hoping that Dianette alone is enough. Lots of women find that BCPs don't help their acne (yours truly included), though, so it's impossible to say at this point whether you can expect to see some improvement from the Dianette or not.

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The regimen is awesome on inflamed acne, so if that's your primary skin issue, I think it would be well-suited for treating your acne.

That said, I think BCPs like Dianette are generally supposed to take several months to clear you up, so 6 weeks is a little early to pass judgment if you're hoping that Dianette alone is enough. Lots of women find that BCPs don't help their acne (yours truly included), though, so it's impossible to say at this point whether you can expect to see some improvement from the Dianette or not.

I get inflamed acne and I found that the regimen has been working really well for me and I have very sensitive skin. The first two weeks I started, I looked awful- my skin was really red and since I only use BP for the lower half of my face, there was a pretty distinct line between the treated area and untreated area. However, I really could have avoided some of the problems by starting off with with a gentle approach. I think I would have been better off using a light layer of BP once a day for a week to let my skin adjust. For me, my skin adjusted within two weeks and the redness diminished. I think that if you start extra slow, you should be fine but some side effects are normal.

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Thank you very much for your help and advice. I ordered the regimen products after posting and have been using BP since Sunday. After returning from holiday on August 8th, my skin has cleared up a considerable amount and I have started using Nivea face products too, which make my skin look moister and glossy - a lovely feeling! :) As recommended with BP, I have been using a pea-sized amount once a day so far. Initially, I am finding it brings any blackheads to the surface of the skin and my whiteheads have enlarged before erupting and leaving. One side of my face looks nearly clear, bar some persistant red marks at the side of my face, and the other is an erupting mess. The inflamed areas are very red again; I just hope they will fade quickly.. I will keep going with this as I think it will have positive results. I seem to experience an initial breakout with any new changes. It just makes me feel ugly.

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End of first week = lumpy breakouts on bottom half of face. I am most troubled by my rolling scars on my right cheek though, and it's infuriating knowing that I can only work on these when my active acne subsides. It's all pretty depressing.

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Sorry It's not going well Gracie. :wall::cry: I hope you're finding you're answers through trial and error. I finally noticed in myself a tendency to stress too much and I honestly believe that contributed greatly to my acne. I've had to develop new habits of thinking, outlook, and a mix of exercises, diet, and limited topicals that have resulted in 90-95% reduction in my acne. So I have to wonder, "How is it you think you can strengthen your body/immune system and get rid of your outbreaks?"

IDK what supplements you've tried, but I wonder what's causing the inflammation? Dairy? Allergic reaction to some type of food? Regular Bowel Movements? Stressing too much? No exercise? I just think the answer is somewhere for you in strengthening yourself and pushing through this problem. Honestly, I hate that you're still suffering with it. But at the same time I BELIEVE that you can clear it up, or in the very least manage it so that your outbreaks are severely reduced. So all I can suggest is to keep trying, stay on the org, and consider what so many others here are doing for their skin. Really, sooner or later you'll find the answer. I HAVE to believe that you can change what you do, it's just a matter of finding what that is. But I really think it has to do with strengthening yourself in some way physically, mentally, or othewise.

I know it's hard but please stay positive and keep looking the answers are out there for you somewhere. The funny thing is that I think more of the answers are inside you than you (or myself for that matter!) know! It's happened to me that way in many things. I've changed my habits or what I do or how I react to things and it's affected other areas of my life, even my skin. Life has a funny way of working Gracie, and I think there are answers for you. ;):wavey::hifive:

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Thanks for your words of support and positivity, BarryAllen, but the more this goes on, the more my belief in the world working for our greater good diminishes. I have been through a great deal and I have explored many avenues. I'm sick and tired of the whole thing now. My dream is to perform, and I'm due to start drama school in three weeks, but it feels near impossible with my tumultuous fluctuations.

End of week 2 = a frustrating day to report, as only yesterday I was thinking how much better my outbreaks were and any leftover redness had nearly completely gone. Now I'm due a period in the next couple of days, but I've also upped my dose of BP to half a finger 2x daily in the last few days. I have 6 horrible, huge whiteheads with me today. Is it the change in amount of BP? Is it my hormones? I don't know!! Grr..

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Hi Gracie

I can completely appreciate your frustrations in not being able to find a more permanent and successful answer. I thought that accutane had destroyed my acne and it did for about 3 and a half years then it came back. I took one dose of antibiotics, it cleared, then it came back. Im on more antibiotics and im clearer for a longer period of time than I have been in many many years. And I think this is most likely down to using BP.

Please please stick with it and keep your head up! You sound a lot like me- I can imagine that you get quite excited about starting something new and you are very positive about even the slightest improvements. But it doesnt take much to knock you down a bit. I noticed that my acne was more inflamed for the first couple of weeks while my skin adjusted and while the BP fought with anything that was going to come up anyway. Its totally normal!

It works for lots of people. Its worked for me and I was literally at my wits end with acne. It just takes time. I know this is easy to say, and harder to believe. Ive been the king of negativity in the past. But ride through it and stay focused on your regimen! :)

I just wish we could get Dan's stuff cheaper in the UK :( I ordered some BP the other day and it cost about £25 (one 8oz tube and two travel bottles- to avoid the import charge or whatever it is) and itll only last about a month. Oh well- its all worth it for happiness and confidence in the end!

Good luck with starting drama school. I wish I had started acting when I was younger. Something id really enjoy getting into.

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go for the regimen. I personally think no matter HOW sensitive anyone's skin is... A gentle cleanser + moisturizer will not cause breakout. (ie. the acne.org ones.) As for bp, Start super small. Like literally a pea size. for a week or 2. I doubt anyone will experience burning or anything severe from just a pea size for the whole face. then slowly increase. U should be fine.

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Thanks for your words of support and positivity, BarryAllen, but the more this goes on, the more my belief in the world working for our greater good diminishes. I have been through a great deal and I have explored many avenues. I'm sick and tired of the whole thing now. My dream is to perform, and I'm due to start drama school in three weeks, but it feels near impossible with my tumultuous fluctuations.

End of week 2 = a frustrating day to report, as only yesterday I was thinking how much better my outbreaks were and any leftover redness had nearly completely gone. Now I'm due a period in the next couple of days, but I've also upped my dose of BP to half a finger 2x daily in the last few days. I have 6 horrible, huge whiteheads with me today. Is it the change in amount of BP? Is it my hormones? I don't know!! Grr..

Gracie are you still on Dianette? That could actually be the problem.

The dirty secret that doctors rarely tell you is that one rare side effect of oral contraceptives (ALL oral contraceptives!!) is ... guess what? Acne. Yep. I went on Ortho Tri-Cyclen at 17 because my then-doctor believed all the hype "It's so great for acne! Yay!" ... well guess what? It made my moderate acne outrageously severe. Cysts and nodules everywhere.

If you are not using Dianette for pregnancy prevention or cycle regulation, I'd ditch it for now and try the regimen. The regimen is a miracle. For real.

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Do you reckon? I've just finished my 3rd month on Dianette and 3rd week on the regimen. I'm a bit worried about stopping the pill as it's still relatively early days on it, and I'm moving house/ starting a course in 3 weeks time, too (look at all these 3's -blimey!). I don't want to be on an acting course and looking like a monster. I'm still breaking out, but my facial tone is now much more balanced and dewy, whilst the red marks are fading really quickly.

Should I quit Dianette? Can some more people give me their experiences of contraceptive pills, especially this one, for the treatment of acne?

Thank you!

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Do you reckon? I've just finished my 3rd month on Dianette and 3rd week on the regimen. I'm a bit worried about stopping the pill as it's still relatively early days on it, and I'm moving house/ starting a course in 3 weeks time, too (look at all these 3's -blimey!). I don't want to be on an acting course and looking like a monster. I'm still breaking out, but my facial tone is now much more balanced and dewy, whilst the red marks are fading really quickly.

Should I quit Dianette? Can some more people give me their experiences of contraceptive pills, especially this one, for the treatment of acne?

Thank you!

Since you seem to be getting better, I'd stick with the regimen and with the Dianette too. 3 weeks into the regimen and seeing the results you're seeing sounds like you're off to a good start!

But PM me if you want advice on contraceptives (or post on the Hormonal Methods board), I've been on about 8 or 9 of them. However, each pill is different for everyone, so someone else's experiences have little-to-no meaning regarding your own personal experience. It sounds like your body might be starting to get used to the synthetic hormones, and also your skin is starting to benefit from the Regimen. Perhaps the combination is working for you!!

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It could be really useful to have you onboard, Cass. I haven't taken my pill today and am debating discontinuing it, as I've certainly had some of the negative side effects - increased tiredness, mood swings and I am certainly more prone to depression. Also, the whereabouts of acne outbreaks is less predictable and they are bigger/sorer (is that a word?!).

Alongside all of this, I recently visited a worldwide renowned microbiologist, who tested my body and found that I had a low level of diaminoxidase (DAO) an enzyme which works in breaking down histamines in the body. This is a quote from Dr Dirk Budka's notes on histamine activity: "Histamine is a biogenic amine that occurs to various degrees in many foods. In healthy persons, dietary histamine can be rapidly detoxified by amine oxidases (such as DAO, found naturally in the body's digestive system), whereas persons with low amine oxidase activity are at risk of histamine toxicity". In turn, toxic overload can lead to eczema, acne, constipation, IBS, fatigue, depression and more. To cut a long story short, I was told that Dianette is an antagoniser of histamine levels in the body and I have been prescribed a 4 week, personal diet plan for balancing my histamine and DAO activity. I am on day 2. It is by no means an easy feat, but I am anxious/intrigued to see if this can give my body and skin an overhaul. I will definitely persist with the regimen, too.

I'll keep you updated..

Edited by gracieb

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This is interesting, I hope it leads somewhere for you Gracieb. Please keep us posted. Something I wanted to suggest was a Thermaclear handheld acne device (heats the bacteria breaking it down) or it's competitor the Zeno. By all the comparisons I've seen the Thermaclear beats the Zeno as far as price and upkeep. In the U.S. it's around $150, google it and you might find it on sale for $100.

I bought one recently, WTF I've tried everything else and I noticed it helped heal mild/moderate acne much faster. It works quickly. First, clean and sterilize your acne and the tip of the device. Then, you just turn it on, it heats up and you hold it against the sore for a couple of seconds. It heats up the bacteria in the sore speeding the healing process & it does help. There is a slight sting from it, more like a pinprick than anything else-NO BIG DEAL! It's not a cureall, but it's great for the arsenal and for your kind of acne Gracie. So maybe give it a shot and let us know how you're doing.

Take care lovely lass!!!!!!!!! ;):D

Edited by BarryAllen

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It could be really useful to have you onboard, Cass. I haven't taken my pill today and am debating discontinuing it, as I've certainly had some of the negative side effects - increased tiredness, mood swings and I am certainly more prone to depression. Also, the whereabouts of acne outbreaks is less predictable and they are bigger/sorer (is that a word?!).

Alongside all of this, I recently visited a worldwide renowned microbiologist, who tested my body and found that I had a low level of diaminoxidase (DAO) an enzyme which works in breaking down histamines in the body. This is a quote from Dr Dirk Budka's notes on histamine activity: "Histamine is a biogenic amine that occurs to various degrees in many foods. In healthy persons, dietary histamine can be rapidly detoxified by amine oxidases (such as DAO, found naturally in the body's digestive system), whereas persons with low amine oxidase activity are at risk of histamine toxicity". In turn, toxic overload can lead to eczema, acne, constipation, IBS, fatigue, depression and more. To cut a long story short, I was told that Dianette is an antagoniser of histamine levels in the body and I have been prescribed a 4 week, personal diet plan for balancing my histamine and DAO activity. I am on day 2. It is by no means an easy feat, but I am anxious/intrigued to see if this can give my body and skin an overhaul. I will definitely persist with the regimen, too.

I'll keep you updated..

So its been another week, how is it coming along?

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Hi, guys. Thank you for your information and interest. I realise that this is turning into a blog of sorts. I am going to try and keep this short, but relatively sweet. So I will list any noticeable changes that I have experienced so far, in 'positive' and 'negative' columns; let's start with the not so good and that way we end with the better stuff. Good idea, eh?

This is Week 5 on the Regimen and 12 Days into my Bespoke Diet:

Negative:

I am still breaking out daily, probably by one or two spots, but breaking out, nonetheless.

My acne condition has changed considerably - this could go in both columns, actually, depending on what you make of the changes: I used to get lumpy, blotchy and quite pustuler (sp?) spots; I am finding now that any inflamed acne is more unusual and clears quickly. Yes, this is positive, however, I never used to have any uninflamed acne, and now I have comedogenic spots that appear sort of under the skin (like milia but bigger) on my right cheek and chin. They start off very small and hardly noticeable, eventually popping out into a whitehead. The whiteheads clear after a couple of days, but I have about 10 of these 'under the skin' spots at the moment and the thought of when they will all come out brings me down.

I struggle with my bowel movements and they are still not regular.

I am becoming increasingly obsessed with my skin condition, which, I know, never EVER helps.

I find it disappointing not being able to eat out and continually explaining to friends that it's 'Doctor's orders' that I don't drink etc.. Drinking is not a big part of my socialising, but I love eating out.

Positive:

I think quitting Dianette has had a profound effect on my body, as well as starting this diet: the first couple of days were difficult; I slumped quite dramatically, feeling drained, constantly hungry and very irritable. Dirk had warned me that those dependent on caffeine or refined sugar may experience excruciating headaches and lack of energy initially. I never drink caffeine and have been dairy-free for 4 years, but I have supplemented this with my own sweet treats, so I would have a 'Free From' biscuit/ chocolate bar every day/ every other day. The withdrawal symptoms for myself were increased lethargy and background, 'fuzzy' headaches. By day 4, however, I felt like a different person.

My energy surged on the fourth day and I felt unstoppable - I went on an 18 mile bike ride (a very rare thing for me!), and although my initial breakouts on the diet were still fairly lumpy, I was not discouraged.

Far from the depressive, pessimistic character that I was whilst on the pill, my spirit and mood lifted. Life felt like perhaps it could turnaround (as the skin stuff continues though, my mindset is wavering again).

I am finding that I can be quite experimental even with limited foods and I need to snack far less often. Because, unlike a lot of wheat and yeast products, my diet does not provide me with 'quick fix' sugars, my concentration is sustained and I am focused for longer.

Exercise is desireable rather than forced and I have lost nearly half a stone, now weighing 8 stone 6 pounds (I was 8st 12lbs previously) and I have wanted to shift this weight for ages.

My skin is clearly adapting to BP, as my flakiness has hugely reduced in the last week.

Friends and family are telling me that my complexion looks great. So....why am I still breaking out and why do I struggle to see what they see?

Edited by gracieb

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Hey! I think you've made progress so give yourself some credit girl for keeping at it and some success. Try and be grateful and work through your feelings at the same time--balance out your self and your life. Remind yourself when you start feeling low or out of sorts about anything (including your skin) that you're going to make it through it and it's only growth. You're a lot stronger than you know Gracie!

I struggle with my bowel movements and they are still not regular.

When you evacuate your bowels it should just come out easily, very easily, and full not loose. You SHOULDN'T have a big, bloated, or backed up feeling in your gut. That's a bad sign and shows you need fiber and/or an enema. I'd strongly recommend an enema for you anyway, and probably somewhere around a 1-2 week interval, 2-4 liters each time of water. See what happens when you get yourself more relaxed and flowing in your gut and bowels. That's where a lot of toxins and waste flush out, and when it's backed up your skin picks up the slack. I know I've seen in it myself.

Friends and family are telling me that my complexion looks great. So....why am I still breaking out and why do I struggle to see what they see?

This is really where I think you need to step up and start being more proactive regarding your thinking, self-esteem and self-worth. Again I have to recommend Louise Hay's Book "You Can Heal Your Life." There is a mind/body connection that you can actually scientifically research if you want to get technical, but needless to say there are answers out there. I've found a bunch of mine, and frankly it's pretty simple. Diet, exercise, sleep, water, positive outlook/mental attitude and balancing out life play a huge role in clear skin. Trust that compass inside of you. There's a quiet place inside of you that no one and nothing else can touch, so trust that.

It's time to put in new directions, thinking and messages into your mind girl, particularly and especially when you look into the mirror and when you think about how you look! Work on your thinking!

Edited by BarryAllen

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Ok, skin update: my forehead has been clear for months and I should celebrate this, but I get bogged down in the mire my other skin worries. My right side is clearing very well, with a few small spots on chin and one mid-sized scab on cheek; I also have red marks there. The chin, in general, is doing well - I have one active spot underneath it, on my jawline, and some red marks. My left side, however, is very problematic: it just keeps on erupting with large, blotchy lesions and there are tons of red marks on that side. Any recommendations on how to treat it?

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Wow, guys: big improvements! I was advised to do the diet for 6 weeks and I am now at the beginning of week 5. I am also just into my 8th week of the DKR. The past week has been a real changing point - and in the last 5 days or so, I have had either no active acne or one spot. This is a huge improvement for me, especially as my period is due. My marks are slowly fading and I'm starting to contemplate scarring treatments for my cheeks, but I need to enjoy being (almost) clear for now and not rush ahead! Let's hope it continues..

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How ridiculous is it that when your skin improves a thousand-fold, you get cross with yourself for one new spot! One. Be thankful, Grace.

Red marks are fading, breakouts are limited to the chin now and I will have a maximum of two active spots at any time. This is a brilliant improvement.

I'm very dry and flaky still though. Any recommendations for easing this?

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I've ordered flakiness products, but that comes and goes.

I think that the regimen, combined with my personalised diet plan, has born extremely good results in my skin thus far. I am still not 100% clear, but I get 1-2 spots (sometimes 3) per week now, as opposed to 2-3 new active lesions a day! I'm also at the re-introducing food stage, so this can be a little temperamental with the skin. Now that it has restored itself significantly, I know within 24 hours if I have reacted, ie. I will have a new spot. I have one tonight after trying bacon. This is disappointing - bacon is good!

Red marks are still a little too pronounced but I remain hopeful.. x

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WOW GRACIE...IM GLAD that you have gotten much clearer skin...through your whole expierience it was great you kept with it! and i just try to keep myself with a postive mindframe so I can hopefully soon have completely clear skin

hmnn idk but adding more mousturizer helps me....in the morning i dont use much moisturizer cuz i dont like looking greasy..do u use jojoba oil?

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Week 9 of Diet week 12 of BP:

So, I have had a couple of big eruptions today, which have been a huge disappointment. I have been at home for 'reading week' and took a chance on booking a resurfacing facial; the therapist, who I have a lot of time for, did warn me that if there is anything wanting to erupt this will be encouraged in the first few days post-treatment. I suspect this is what has happened, since it is now two days since. Unfortunately, I am going back to London tomorrow. These lmups ar ebigger than those I have been getting for awhile, so I'm a bit upset to say the least. The right side of my face is looking brilliant though - and the red marks just keep diminishing. My chin and forehead are very good to. My problem area is my left cheek at the minute.

Also, as I can now re-introduce foods to my diet, I wonder if this is an issue. I tried AHA as a night-time moisturiser and wonder if it was too harsh.. Hmm.

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Jojoba oil has worked really well for my flakiness. I want the acne to be gone. Full stop. Thank you so much for your positive input to the thread, TTTTTurtle! Good luck to you, too. Let me know of your progress.

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Week 9 of Diet week 12 of BP:

My problem area is my left cheek at the minute.

hhhmmnmn Gracie this might or might not help u but i guess its worth a shot too tell you...do you happen to sleep on your left side?? because like about 2 weeks ago i noticed that MY RIGHT SIDE WAS PROBalmatic yet my left side was very clear and it came too my occurence that i sleep on my right cheeck because its comfortable for me...so i have tried out sleeping on my back (not very comfortable for me) but since i have been putting two pillows im sleeping good and guess what my right side is now clear...sooo perhaps my theory was that the pressure on my face side was causing some irritation? well i dont knowall i know is that sleeping on my back helps...and also this prevents sagging!!!

-Turtle :)

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