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I've been taking the flush kind for a few days now and well I don't flush, at all.

So, you're taking the form of niacin that is less safe, that doctors use to lower cholesterol, that has never been studied with acne. Why not take the form that is much safer, that has been studied and shown to be successful in reducing acne symptoms? Just got a grudge against your liver? :D

Roll your own Nicomide.

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hello all

bought the flushing kind of niacin (100mg nicotinic acid) , ive taken 2 tablets and its been 2hrs and no flushing, a little warm, but nothing heavy.

so from what i can gather there are 3 types of niacin

1) niacin nicotinic acid - flush

2) niacin inositol hexanicotinate - no flush

3) niacinamide - no flush

which one of the no flushing niacin's has people been mainly using and getting results from? its been hard to identify.

thanx y'all

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inositol hexanicotinate is popular but it seems it is the worst on the liver. for no flush i'd rather go for niacinimide because it does the same thing plus you can add it into a topical and make a cream that's better than BP. niacinimide is pretty hard to find though.

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Ahhh I did this a few years ago. I took Niacinamide and never saw results. So that was the wrong version of Niacin? :P

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I've been taking the flush kind for a few days now and well I don't flush, at all.

So, you're taking the form of niacin that is less safe, that doctors use to lower cholesterol, that has never been studied with acne. Why not take the form that is much safer, that has been studied and shown to be successful in reducing acne symptoms? Just got a grudge against your liver? :D

Roll your own Nicomide.

Isnt the time released type the least safe? Niacin is suppose to be hurtful to your liver in high doses usually stated at 1300 milligrams or if you really want to be safe at 500, I'm on the lowest at 100mg. But I will def. look into the nicomide link you posted, thanks!

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I just wanted to throw in my experience with niacin. I use the flush niacin, no time-release. I started with 250mg once a day and have upgraded that to 500mg once a day (before bed). I've been taking niacin for a few months now. I've seen noticeable improvement with my skin (can't say 100% it's the niacin alone, as I use a lot of different treatments for my acne, but I definitely feel better after taking it). I still get a light flush 30 minutes - 1 hour after I take it, but it's no longer uncomfortable. Hope this helps anyone considering its use. Enjoy!

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hi,

been taking niacin (flush) for 12 days now, started on 200mg for 2 days then to 300mg for 2days, then 400mg for 3 days and then 500mg since.

and i have to be honest, i have seen an improvement. i did have really oily skin and would get about 5-10 new spots every week. the oil has reduced loads and i havent really had any new spots.(maybe the odd tiny one). the only problem im facing now is getting rid of the red marks and pigment problems, any ideas folks, ive heard that retin-a creams or aha's might to the trick?

cheers,

i'll keep ya posted on the niacin experiment.

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Isnt the time released type the least safe? Niacin is suppose to be hurtful to your liver in high doses usually stated at 1300 milligrams or if you really want to be safe at 500, I'm on the lowest at 100mg. But I will def. look into the nicomide link you posted, thanks!

"niacin" is a word applied to at least 3 completely different chemicals, each with different effects, each with different safety records. As described in this study, the specific form of niacin called nicotinamide:

  • Has a proven safety record in large doses.
  • Has proven to provide a statistically significant improvement within 8 weeks in acne symptoms for most patients.
  • Generally causes little or no discomfort.

If you buy something called "niacin" without confirming exactly what chemical it contains... then you have no idea what you're taking. It's possible that some people taking "niacin" and not seeing any improvement are simply not taking the chemical that has been successfully studied with acne. Some forms of niacin absolutely, positively do carry a non-trivial risk of liver damage. Fortunately, those forms have never been shown to have any relevance to acne anyway. Unfortunately, some folks are taking those forms just out of sheer ignorance.

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I just started 100mg flush, not time release, last night right before bed, I was tired and fell asleep pretty quickly so I don't know if "flushed" or not and I'm also a heavy sleeper. In earlie pots someone suggested starting off with smaller doses and go up to 500mg to help acclimate your body to the flushing. I have been suffering from hormonal acne and hopefully this will help, I plan to increase 100mg per week (or every other) until I'm at 500mg. Will report back in exactly one week and let you guys know how it's going, good luck to us all! I hope this works, or at least better Han the bp that bleaches, creeps mw out that it bleaches fabrics imagine what it is doing to our skin! Trying to find more natural treatmens. I have been offered accutane and I refused would prefer todeal withs zits, as annoying as they are, than suffer liver damage, iron deficiency or hair loss! See you guys in a week!

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I just bought Finest Natural Time Release Niacin 250 mg. I went to CVS before and got a different brand that was also time release and it said it was a vitamin B complex and that you shouldn't experience flushing symptons, but some senitive people could still feel it. Then I came back to this thread and saw that you dont want the following

1. flush free

2. vitamin b form

3. time release

Well I returned the other one and got the best I could find at Waldgreens. This one doesn't say flush free, and says no mention of it being of the vitamin B form, but it still says time release and thats disappointing. Anyway I just took it and I dont think im getting the flush. I'm gonna keep looking for the niacin that gives you the flush but where in the hell can I find it? Waldgreens and CVS don't have it and I dont know where else I should go. I guess I'll try GNC next since theyll have a wider variety. Can anyone let me know where they got theres?

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Niacin is shit and it doesn't work. Stop harming your body.

Uhm, how exactly am I harming my body by taking 250mg of nicotinamide a day? This is actually very beneficial for my body. Niacin is probably the best booster of HDL, which is highly protective of arterial disease.

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Uhm, how exactly am I harming my body by taking 250mg of nicotinamide a day? This is actually very beneficial for my body. Niacin is probably the best booster of HDL, which is highly protective of arterial disease.

Seems like you're saying you are taking nicotinamide (which is used to treat acne, and does not reduce cholesterol) and believe it is the same as nicotinic acid (which is not used to treat acne, and can reduce cholesterol, though large doses of the OTC forms may cause liver damage).

one more time:

nicotinamide: relatively safe. studied as an acne treatment. not for cholesterol.

nicotinic acid: not as safe (in OTC forms). not used as an acne treatment. used for cholesterol.

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If you are using niacin please fill in the survey www.acne.org/messageboard/Vitamin-B3-Niacin-surve-t256172.html

Edited by Blake123

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Does anyone know the difference between Nicotinamide and niacinamide ?

I have seen both for sale and can't work out the difference.

According to wikipedia they are both the the amide of nicotinic acid [niacin] so i take it that they are both the non flush forms of niacin that are "good" for acne but is there any difference between the two? Is either any better?

So in simple terms

Niacin = nicotinic acid = flush = bad for liver = no help for acne

Nicotinamide [niacinamide?] = the amide of nicotinic acid = non flush = not as bad for liver = helps with acne

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I used 250 mg of niacin yesterday and didnt really feel much of a flush. Today I took 2 pills (500 mg) of the niacin and the flush absolutely came. My body turned completely red, my face looked like it had gotten sunburnt, and i felt hot everywhere, and extremely itchy on my legs. It was like getting an indian rugburn everywhere. It's cool, but a pain in the ass and I'll just take tylenol tomorrow. I just wanted to see what it felt like without it the first time. Anyway, my skin looked great after it really calms ur face in the same way that ur skin looks good after you catch rays. I can tell this is definitely going to work for me. I've gotten my acne down to being just mild. The fish oil was the biggest difference maker of any thing i've ever used and whenever I run out, I break out in the next couple of days. I've also just purchased acidophilus and zinc yesterday too and will be on doing that routine as well. The only place you can find the correct niacin (flushes, not time release) is at GNC, at least for me. CVS and waldgreens fail in those regards. Hope this helps anyone curious about niacin or interested in any other supplements to help their acne.

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Tsk tsk tsk when will they learn.

I have found that people who eat and drink enough

“simple†carbohydrate foods to cause them to suffer from

severe acne, always have a deficiency of Niacinamide.

Keep in mind that I did NOT say Niacin, this form is contraindicted

for glucose metabolic problems. Niacinamide is

what you want and you need at least 200 mg. 3 times a

day. Taking it 3 times a day is very important because this

vitamin does not stick around very long, so you can’t just

load up once a day and forget it.

Like riboflavin, niacinamide is an absolutely essential

nutrient in 2 critical co-enzymes within the energy cycle of

the mitochondria. Without enough of it available your

mitochondria simply cannot process the glucose into ATP.

By supplementing this vital nutrient you can assure your

body and its skin of improved cell respiration, reduced risk

of cancer, and increased ATP production. Ref. 22 You will be

astonished what this will do for your energy level as it speeds

up the conversion of glucose into energy in the mitochondria

of the cell. As this happens, the surplus sugar in the skin

cells will disappear, and the bacteria in the skin pores will

find themselves starving for a lack of food.

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So guys ... Is it nicotinic acid (flush) or Niacinimide (no flush) that works best for acne in your knowledge and personal experience?

I'm really confused at the mixed reviews and I'm going to buy it tomorrow morning.

500mg/day before bed.

Can we attach polls on here? The original poster should make a poll to see which one is more popular and has produced more results to reduce confusion. I'm leaning towards nicotinic acid for the flushing (sounds funky!) but it's meant to be for cholesterol whilst Niacinimide is meant to be for acne. ?????

So what's the verdict guys?

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Hi,

Nicotinamide or niacinamide are the same thing...and both are used to treat acne. Honestly I haven´t tried it but for what I 've been reading here and in other places...you can only see results if you take about 500mg of nicotinamide per day. And don´t buy other type of B3 !! Probably it will be a waste of time!

Edited by lianxanpo

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I'm too lazy to read the whole thread so I'm sorry if this has already been discussed, but have any of you niacin junkies tried supplementing with L-Glutamine?

From WHFoods.com:

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=n...nt&dbid=122

"One common way of making glutamine inside the body is by convering an amino acid called glutamic acid into glutamine. In order for this conversion to take place, a form of niacin-vitamin B3 is required. Glutamic acid is itself often synthesized though a complicated conversion reaction involving three additional molecules. This complex reaction requires vitamin B6 in order to occur. For these reasons, vitamins B3 and B6 can be regarded as helper nutrients when it comes to glutamine sufficiency in the body.

Glutamine may play a role in the prevention and/or treatment of the following health conditions:

* Alcoholism

* Chemotherapy side effects

* Food allergies

* HIV/AIDS

* Irritable bowel syndrome

* Candida yeast overgrowth

* Post-exercise colds and flu

* Severe burns

* Ulcerative colitis "

If candida/leaky gut and food allergies can cause acne, and Glutamine can help with these conditions, then it can theoretically help with acne. So if you have a niacin deficiency for whatever reason, and if niacin supplementation could boost Glutamine levels, then this could explain why it works for some people and not others. Perhaps niacin supplmentation is most effective on people with acne related to food intolerances and candida or leaky gut.

Does this make sense? :think:

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Good theory pixy; I'm taking colostrum for my gut (candida and healing) so I'm hoping that'll do it's part.

So ... Nicotinic acid (flush) or Niacinimide (no flush) guys? :(

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