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Also i just read that article, it basically concludes with use (insert various vitamin) which we are lacking apparantley due to our modern diets and stop simple carbs and you should be set? Why not just try accomodate most of those vitamins in our new diet free of simple carbs and save a lot of money im guessing and more importantly potential health risks by taking so many vitamins?

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Also i just read that article, it basically concludes with use (insert various vitamin) which we are lacking apparantley due to our modern diets and stop simple carbs and you should be set? Why not just try accomodate most of those vitamins in our new diet free of simple carbs and save a lot of money im guessing and more importantly potential health risks by taking so many vitamins?

Yes, try to get as much as you can from food. But a lot of nutrients are hard to get. You can try going to nutrition data.com and enter the foods you eat in a day and it will calculate the nutrients for you.

There are a lot of trace minerals that are really hard to get and I recently read a recommendation on getting it from sea salt. The recommendation was for Himalayan salt. I think it was from Dr. Mercola who probably sells the stuff. I'd been meaning to research that. Molybdenum for example is something you need for a lot of things to happen.

Most people need to take a vitamin D supplement. I take Nature's Way alive whole food multi which is meant to be taken 3 times per day, but I take it twice as I don't need that much supplementing. And I take 2,000 IU of D once or twice daily depending on sun, magnesium because it there is never much in a multi and it's hard to get. It also relaxes muscles so helpful for sleep, aches, headaches, etc. so I take one in the evening. And I have 500 mg C capsules that I take at any point in the day if I had eaten any fresh, raw vitamin C sources for 3-4 hours. But I usually have lemon in water so I don't take that often. And some krill oil capsules that I take if I haven't managed to eat any fish in a few days.

I will say that before my diet cleared me, I took zinc, b-complex and C and it made my skin much less oily and I rarely had any inflamed acne on my face.

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It's good to hear you've cleared but i'm hesitant when it comes to taking so many pills no matter what good they claim to do. Reading that article i'd be tempted to try Vit A and B-2 complex tablets to see if i can get some relief from them. I think Vit D and Zinc i should be ok with seeing as 15minutes sun and meat are regulars in my diet.

Have you been supplementing under any guided supervision from doctors or are you administrating everything and basically looking after your own health? I would certainly get my doctors opinion on any regime i take just to get their view.

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It's good to hear you've cleared but i'm hesitant when it comes to taking so many pills no matter what good they claim to do. Reading that article i'd be tempted to try Vit A and B-2 complex tablets to see if i can get some relief from them. I think Vit D and Zinc i should be ok with seeing as 15minutes sun and meat are regulars in my diet.

Have you been supplementing under any guided supervision from doctors or are you administrating everything and basically looking after your own health? I would certainly get my doctors opinion on any regime i take just to get their view.

Doctors? Are you kidding? Advising nutrients? There's probably a handful in the whole country of any use for that.

I don't take a lot of pills. And I wouldn't recommend taking mega doses of anything, however, the RDAs are very wrong on a lot of things and only enough to prevent a few diseases like scurvy. So say a few thousand IUs of D and a few thousand mgs of C are not overdosing. They are barely adequate. C is needed to collagen to make cells. All of them. D is a hormone and the lack of it possibly is a big part of all the degenerative diseases people suffer from.

On the other hand, you don't need near the amount of calcium conventional medicine recommends. You need the other nutrients, like way more D than conventional medicine recommends, Magnesium, and assorted other minerals, needed to make bones and you need to not do things that deplete calcium like drink sodas. Your body uses calcium to neutralize acids and if there isn't any floating around in your blood, it will get it from your bones.

Vitamin A and zinc are two things to be concerned about overdosing on. That's why most multis contain mostly beta carotene not A. I'd look for another source to verify the claims in that article that a little B6 prevents the harm from mega dosing A.

You also always want to take B vitamins in a complex.

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You a realy good people person, I realy appreciate you're help and spending a lot of time helping us!

Realy thankfull!

I hope my acne gets cleared as soon as possible!

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What's the verdict on Chia Seeds btw?

http://www.glutenfreeshop.com.au/Product.aspx?ProductId=1698

The item description sounds dame good from this. But it sounds too good to be true and almost like a marketing ploy, which is been known when it comes to labelling 'super foods'.

No it's a great food. It's biggest con is the price. Hemp seed is also good. If I wanted a protein powder I'd choose hemp

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Hey alternativista it's me again :D

Seeing as most people in the Nutritional Holistic section are on some sort of supplements, i figure it wouldn't hurt to try experiment to see if i note any improvemens which could suggest that i am deficient or not absorbing nutrients as effectively as i should.

Randomly browsing the supermarket today i ran into this : http://www.naturesown.com.au/balance-plus-...tivitamin.html/

Which is a hair, skin and nails supplement. It contains the following :

Betacarotene 3mg Vitamin B1 (thiamine nitrate) 50mg Vitamin B2 (riboflavine) 50mg Vitamin B3 (nicotinamide) 50mg Vitamin B5 (calcium pantothenate) 50mg Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine hydrochloride) 50mg Vitamin B12 (cyanocobalamin) 25mcg Vitamin C 100mg (ascorbic acid from calcium ascorbate dihydrate 121mg) Vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol 5mcg) 200IU Vitamin K (phytomenadione) 200mcg Folic acid 400mcg Iodine (from potassium iodide 39mcg) 30mcg Calcium (from carbonate 250mg) 100mg Magnesium (from oxide - heavy 172.7mg) 100mg Manganese (from sulfate monohydrate 1.9mg) 600mcg Selenium (from selenomethionine 62mcg) 25mcg Iron (from ferrous fumarate 16mg) 5mg Zinc (from sulfate monohydrate 41mg) 15mg Citrus bioflavonoids extract 25mg Lysine hydrochloride 50mg Biotin 2.5mg Grapeseed (Vitis vinifera)extract equiv. to dry seed (6g) 6000mg

But i do have a few gastro related issues and could well be the cause of my acne in addition to hormonal problems.

So they have this aswell: http://www.naturesown.com.au/balance-plus-...ltivitamin.html

Which is like a cleanser for toxins apparantley. Any thoughts on these two supplements and i believe i read iodine isn't good? I believe these two or one of them do contain iodine.

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Well it doesn't have the best forms of minerals like magnesium and zinc. You usually want citrates.

Formulas for blood sugar/diabetics and seniors are often good. High in things specifically beneficial for acne.

Look online. I buy from vitacost.

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Stuff about cholesterol I'm going to whittle down to a few key points. From http://www.hepatitis.org.uk/s-crina/cholesterol.htm

The main points being that

1) cholesterol is essential, even the 'bad LDL;

2)only a small percentage of cholesterol in your body comes from cholesterol in food while most is made by your body and can be made from carbs;

3)instead of worrying about your cholesterol, worry about getting the other nutrients your body needs that--amongst the many, many essential things they do and diseases they prevent--prevent the harm that is blamed on LDL cholesterol.

Cholesterol is a solid, waxy substance produced by all animals as part of their normal metabolism. Because cholesterol is absolutely essential to animal life, your liver routinely makes 800-1500 mg per day of cholesterol from dietary saturated fats and simple sugars. And indeed, strict vegetarians are fortunate their livers can make cholesterol, since no foods of purely vegetarian origin contain cholesterol. And if their blood and tissue levels of cholesterol were to drop to zero, death would rapidly ensue!

Most people can absorb no more than 300-500 mg pr day of cholesterol directly from foods. Radioactive tracer studies, which use special radioactive food molecules to trace their fate in the body, have shown that 60-70% of all blood cholesterol comes from production by the liver, not from pre-formed cholesterol in the foods. Epi-demiological studies from around the world have uncovered many cultures living on extremely high fat and cholesterol diets whose blood cholesterol levels are low. The Masai tribe in Southern Africa,for example,have been heavily studied by heart and cholesterol researchers. These people have been cattle herders for thousands of years, and live almost exclusively on a cholesterol and fat-rich diet of meat, milk and blood. Yet their blood cholesterol levels typically run a pristine 150, a level most cholesterol conscious American doctors would consider perfect!

Why Your Body Makes Cholesterol

Cholesterol is important to every cell of your body. It provides needed rigidity to all cell membranes. Every cell in your body is covered by a membrane made largely of cholesterol, fat and protein. Membranes are porous structures, not solid walls, letting nutrients and hormones in, while keeping wastes and toxins out. Without adequate cholesterol, cell membranes become too fluid, and not rigid enough. If your cell membranes suddenly became totally devoid of cholesterol, your cells would explode from their internal water pressure like over-filled water balloons. Brain cells are particularly rich in cholesterol, the brain being about 7% cholesterol by dry weight.

One of cholesterol's most important functions is to serve as the basic raw material from which your body makes many major steroid hormones, including testosterone, estrogen, progesterone, cortisone and aldosterone. Without these first three hormones you would have no sex life; without cortisone your body could not cope with stress; and without aldosterone your body could not properly balance your sodium and water levels.

Large amounts of cholesterol are found in the skin, where it makes the skin highly resistant to the absorption of water-soluble toxins.The skin's cholesterol also helps hold water in the body, so that loss of water through skin evaporation is only about half to one pint daily, instead of the four to ten quarts of water which would be lost if not for skin cholesterol.

Even your solid bones would be hollow and brittle, if not for cholesterol. Vitamin D, the chief nutrient and hormone regulator of body calcium an phosphorus metabolism, is also made from skin cholesterol. Natural sunlight hitting cholesterol in your skincell membranes turns the cholesterol into Vitamin D. And after further metabolic processing by liver and kidneys, vitamin D is the chief controller of how well your body absorbs dietary calcium and phosphorus.

A major portion (as high as 70%) of the body's cholesterol is used by the liver to produce bile salts. Bile salts are used during food digestion to emulsify fats and the fat-soluble vitamins A,D,E and K for proper absorption. Without these cholesterol-rich bile salts,your body could not absorb essential fatty-acids or the fat-soluble vitamins, and serious, even lethal, deficiency diseases would ensue. The liver, which is the body's poison control and detox organ, also dissolves some fat-soluble toxins in the bile salts. After these toxin-laden bile salts have been dumped into the intestine, they may then be excreted from the body in the feces.

Why Are People Concerned About Cholesterol?

Your liver makes not only cholesterol, but also two main carrier molecules, LDL and HDL, which bind with cholesterol. Without help of these carrier molecules, cholesterol could not travel through the blood stream. LDL (Low Density Lipoprotein) carries cholesterol out to all the tissues in the body, where it may be used for various metabolic functions, including production and repair of cell membranes, as well as hormone production. Unfortunately LDL-bound cholesterol also tends to stick to damaged artery linings, where it may accumulate, eventually plugging up the arteries and blocking blood flow. This is why LDL cholesterol often is referred to as the "bad" cholesterol.

However, it is important to note that LDL cholesterol tends to stick primarily to damaged artery linings. Some of the many factors which have been shown to contribute to this artery-lining damage include the following: 1) Inadequate vitamin C intake- C is critical for the production of collagen and other substances which ensure the integrity of artery linings; 2) Inadequate vitamin E intake- E suppresses excessive formation of an artery-lining damaging substance called thromboxane A2 (TXA2); 3) Inadequate vitamin B6 intake, B6 suppresses formation of artery-damaging homocysteine, an abnormal methionine metabolic produced when people consume high protein/low Be diets; 4) Inadequate cellular production or dietary intake of gamma linolenic acid (G.A.). G.A. is an important fatty acid essential to make prostaglandin A. (PGE1), which turn inhibits production of artery-damaging TXA2 while promoting production of prostacyclin (PG12), a prostaglandin which promotes healthy, smooth artery linings; 5) Excessive intake of various pollutants, including cigarette smoke; alcohol; sugar; hydrogenated, heat damaged fats; overcooked protein; and auto/diesel exhaust. It is important to note that the same prostagladins which play such a vital role in artery protection also are responsible for pain perception. Consequently, as you take more pain killers such as aspirin and ibuprofen, you contribute to the damaging process.

Thus, although it may be prudent to lower your blood levels of LDL cholesterol, it is equally important to ensure adequate intake of the various artery -lining protecting nutrients (E,C, etc.) While avoiding as much as possible the various toxins which damage artery linings (tobacco smoke, alcohol, rancid fats etc.). A major review article by Earl Benditt in Scientific American concerning heart disease and artery lining damage makes it clear that the LDL cholesterol sticking to artery linings is a late stage of the atherosclerotic process. The multiple-cause damage to artery linings by smoking, alcohol, rancid fats and nutrient deficiency is a prior, earlier and at least partially preventable/reversible stage of the lifelong development of heart/artery disease. HDL (High Density Lipoprotein) carries cholesterol back to the liver from tissues throughout the body, if the diet is high in fiber. The excretion of cholesterol in the form of fiber bound, used bile-salts is the major way the body rids itself of excess cholesterol. Since HDL makes this process possible, HDL cholesterol is often called the "good" cholesterol.

Dr. Sheldon Reiser of the USDA has published research in the 1980's demonstrating that dietary sugar plays a major role in blood cholesterol levels. Reiser has found that a high dietary sugar intake raises blood triglyseride (blood fat) and LDL ("bad") levels, while lowering HDL ("good") levels. Reiser's work indicates that it is the fructose (fruit sugars) component of ordinary white sugar which so powerfully elevates blood cholesterol (white sugars, called sucrose, is a combination of one glucose and one fructose molecule). Considering the popularity of fructose as a "natural" sweetener in many carbo-lading, energy, diet and soft drinks and powders lately, Dr.Reiser's work takes on an added significance. The benefits claimed for fructose-sweetened foods and beverages--that they have a low "glycemic index" and thus disturb blood sugar levels less than white sugar--may be more than offset by fructose's blood cholesterol raising power. Dr. Reiser's work makes it clear that the worst combination for creating elevated blood cholesterol, even on a low cholesterol diet, is foods rich in both fat and sugar. Considering America's mania for sugar and fat rich desserts and snacks, America's high national average blood cholesterol levels may be due as much to this dietary imbalance, as to our high national intake of meat and dairy foods. It is relevant to note here that America's per capita consumption of meat, eggs, butter and cream has dropped significantly from 1900 to the present, while America's per capita sugar consumption has risen from a very modest 5 pounds per year in 1800 to about 190 pounds per year in the 1990's!

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I created a thread in the vitamins section but unfortunately no replies. Anyway i've been lookin out for supplements and im a bit confused and not even sure if i should be bothering or needing them. But safe to say a little desperation is creeping in which isn't good, but i went out and bought this multi Skin, Nails and Hair supplement.

http://www.swisse.com/products/body-beauty...hair-skin-nails

What role have you found mutlivitamins to play in your quest for clear skin alternativista? Would you say they are a necessary tool to help aid in the battle against acne? I guess it doesn't hurt to supplement on necessary vitamins even if they don't help too much but i am worried about causing balances to mess up. This one contains fair bit of zinc and St Mary's which is some sort of herb im guessing for liver detoxing. Neither of those im not sure will benefit me as i don't know if my zinc levels are average or below average and i wouldn't know if my liver is contributing to acne in some sort of way.

Also i was reading other peoples zinc related threads, is it true that zinc and zinc supplements increase testosterone or something along those lines? I certainly don't feel comfourtable with that.

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Zinc plays a role in hormone balance, not necessarily increasing or decreasing androgens. It also inhibits the conversion of testosterone to DHT. And I believe it inhibits the production of IGF1

I can't say that multi's played any role in my acne other than how they along with everything else I do affect how well my body functions. All I cans say is that when I took zinc, B complex and C my skin became a lot less oily. Although I was also drinking less sugar at the time as my husband had just developed type II diabetes and we no longer had sugary drinks around the house, stopped at Starbucks for Frappacinos, wherever for ice cream shakes, etc. Then, I changed my diet to never drink sugar and avoid high glycemic meals and my skin cleared.

How is your diet going?

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Some basic dumbed down info about managing blood sugar.

I wasn't sure how it was that fat lowers the glycemic impact of a food, so I looked it up. And basically--like with soluble fiber and resistant starch, and acids like vinegar--it slows down the digestion process slowing the rate at which the sugars enter the blood stream.

But the sugar is still going to get processed. So, in addition to only consuming a high GI food in combination with low GI foods, keep the high GI foods to a minimum. Small amounts only.

When a lot of sugar enters the blood stream, your body releases a lot of insulin to get the sugar out of your blood and inside of cells where it's used for energy. But your cells can only take in so much and if they are full, they won't take in anymore leaving the sugar to circulate through your bloodstream where it's inflammatory. And it binds to cells causing a process called glycation and cross linking, produces AGEs which reduces elasticity blah, blah, blah. This is how sugar is aging. And your body keeps releasing more insulin to try to get the sugar out of your bloodstream.

But, If you do some intense physical activity that uses large muscles like squats, stairs, or hills to burn up your energy stores, your cells will then take in more glucose.

Fructose needs to go to the liver FIRST to replenish glycogen stores– hence it takes longer to get to the blood stream, hence the low GI score. Then a very small amount of fructose is converted to glucose – the remainder is stored as fat.

Interesting blog post on Gnoll.org titled The Paleo Identity Crisis http://www.gnolls.org/2226/the-paleo-ident...eo-diet-anyway/

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Zinc plays a role in hormone balance, not necessarily increasing or decreasing androgens. It also inhibits the conversion from

I can't say that multi's played any role in my acne other than how they along with everything else I do affect how well my body functions. All I cans say is that when I took zinc, Bcomplex and C my skin became a lot less oily. Although I was also drinking less sugar at the time as my husband had just developed type II diabetes and we no longer had sugary drinks around the house, stopped at Starbucks for Frappacinos, wherever for ice cream shakes, etc. Then, I changed my diet to never drink sugar and avoid high glycemic meals and my skin cleared.

How is your diet going?

Well my diet is fairly routine. I've cut out dairy and wheat/fructose which basically is like a gluten free diet.

For breakfast i'll eat bowl of rice porridge with strawberries and 2eggwhites and 1 yolk scrambled with smoked salmon.

Lunch will be a meat variety with vegetables and sometimes buckwheat pasta, low gi rice or sweet potatoes.

Dinner im trying to have meat and veggies only and then i'll have a salad and can of tuna/sardines for pre bed snack.

My acne has improved/reduced since initially just cutting out dairy and then i guess slight improvements with the rest. My biggest concerns are that i got a few digestive disorders over the past 2 years thanks to bad eating habits and eating foods that my body was intolerant to but i ignored the signs. I have mild ulcerative colitis, fructose malabsorption and suffer from gastroparesis. Whilst it may sound like im a sick dog, i actually do ok consider the amount of conditions i have! :D

My biggest problem with the diet is the fact it's leaving me constipated now and then, i want to go once day at least and i think it's the meat that does it. I guess i should up my veggie intake somehow.

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^ Maistro,

Well, you need to focus on your digestion issues. Are you avoiding fruit now and/or trying to improve your fructose metabolism? Have you tried taking taurine? In addition to keeping as natural as possible circadian cycle?

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Benefits of sulfur - internally. Also great topically.

The below was in the Mercola newsletter. I added the italized things.

Sulfur bonds are required for proteins to maintain their shape, and these bonds determine the biological activity of the proteins. For example, as explained in the featured MSM newsletter, hair and nails consists of a tough protein called keratin, which is high in sulfur, whereas connective tissue and cartilage contain proteins with flexible sulfur bonds, giving the structure its flexibility. With age, the flexible tissues in your body tend to lose their elasticity, leading to sagging and wrinkling of skin, stiff muscles and painful joints. A shortage of sulfur likely contributes to these age-related problems.

In addition to bonding proteins, sulfur is also required for the proper structure and biological activity of enzymes. If you don't have sufficient amounts of sulfur in your body the enzymes cannot function properly, which can cascade into a number of health problems as without biologically active enzymes, your metabolic processes cannot function properly.

Sulfur also plays an important role in:

-Your body's electron transport system, as part of iron/sulfur proteins in mitochondria, the energy factories of your cells

-Vitamin-B thiamine (B1) and biotin conversion, which in turn are essential for converting carbohydrates into energy

-Synthesizing important metabolic intermediates, such as glutathione ( an extremely important antioxidant)

-Proper insulin function. The insulin molecule consists of two amino acid chains connected to each other by sulfur bridges, without which the insulin cannot perform its biological activity

-Detoxification - activates detoxifing enzymes in the liver

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So, glad this board update is over with because I've come across some much info over the weekend I want to post.

Here are some little details that are usually left out in diet/health advice:

About plant based Omega 3 sources and our ability to convert them, or supposed lack of ability:

(This one is for you, pokemonster)

Plant based omega-3 sources like flax,hemp and chia seeds are high in ALA, but low in EPA and DHA. Although ALA is an essential nutrient, it is important to remember that the conversion of ALA to the far more essential EPA and DHA is typically quite inhibited by impaired delta 6 desaturase, an enzyme necessary for you to convert the ALA into the longer chain EPA and DHA.

Elevated insulin levels impair this enzyme and more than 80 percent of the U.S. population has elevated insulin levels. Because of this it is important to include animal based sources of omega-3 fats in your diet.

Found in this blog post about how krill oil is the best source of omega 3s. http://naturalhealth...01_archive.html

So apparently elevated insulin levels, as is typical in the Western diet habits, impairs ability to convert ALA from plants to the EPA and DHA. So, if we ate how we were meant to, without all the sugar, refined carbs, high glycemic juices and overeating, we might just be able to get our omega 3s from plants the way all the other animals do. Animals that rarely spike their insulin levels. Makes sense to me and something to look into for those that don't want to consume animal sources.

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Coconut Oil, ketones, thyroid and fuel for the brain (preventing Alzheimer's/dementia)

So, I've only previously seen a lot of vague stuff about coconut oil being good for the metabolism and the thyroid, but no real explanations. Chukylard recently brought up that coconut oil stimulates ketones, (without having to do the extreme low carb thing, woo hoo.) In this recent Mercola article listing his '10 best foods' to keep you healthy, despite being a brief few paragraphs, includes some real, relevant details. Like an article should. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/09/10/top-ten-best-superfoods.aspx?e_cid=20110918_SNL_MC_1

1) Your body sends medium-chain fatty acids directly to your liver to use as energy. This makes coconut oil a powerful source of instant energy to your body, a function usually served in the diet by simple carbohydrates.

2) apparently it is this instant energy affect on your metabolism that increases the activity of your thyroid. Yeah, yeah, more info is needed there.

And 3) ketone bodies may provide alternative fuel for the brain which has it's own insulin/glucose metabolism system going on and can become insulin resistant. See research by Dr. Mary Newport,

Also, your body converts lauric acid into monolaurin, which has anti-viral, anti-bacterial and anti-protozoa properties. And, of course, it's about the best oil for cooking because, among other things, it is stable with a high smoking point.

(Note that butter from grass fed cows is another source of medium chain saturated fatty acids.)

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^ Maistro,

Well, you need to focus on your digestion issues. Are you avoiding fruit now and/or trying to improve your fructose metabolism? Have you tried taking taurine? In addition to keeping as natural as possible circadian cycle?

Hi alternativista,

Thanks for your reply. I definitely need to focus on my digestion issues. One thing that hit me was that my skin was nicely clear'ish when i was in a pretty good state digestive wise earlier in the year. I was taking medication for the UColitis but i have stopped taking all meds as im not a big fan of them and just trying to go natural so to speak, One mistake i've been making is eating brocholli and cauliflower which surprisingly aren't recommended on a fructose free diet, more-so brocholli i think. I'm probably going to go on a elimination diet soon to try identify others that mite be causing disturbances but i fear my options will be too small since i want to be 50% paleo diet. Another thing i must try do is reduce my fructose loading which means spread my fruits out thru the day and i guess not have too much vegies in the one go.

Not sure how else you can improve your fructose metabolism?

Taurine im not sure about, never heard of it apart from energy drinks, and quick look just then i saw it being touted as a good muscle building component much like L-glutamine. L-glutamine has me interested as it is said/rumoured to have potential digestive tract benefits particualrly with Leaky Gut Syndrome but i'm not sure what even is but couldn't hurt to give it a shot. By natural circidian cycle i assume you mean do i go to sleep early and wake up early? Working full time has me on a routine where i'm in bed by midnight to wake up around 7 am so i am getting 6-8hrs regularly and weekends now i wake up fairly early aswell. Care free deep sleeping definitley helps with my inflammations.

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This site is a nice list of the nutrients that benefit just about whatever health condition that might ail you and why/how. Acne is the first ailment on the list. Candida is there as well. And other digestive system issues and skin issues. And things much more serious.

But do your own research to corroborate what they say, especially for any serious health condition. I don't know anything about these people. Be sure you know upper limits and toxicity of vitamins and minerals and look up side affects of any strange herbals.

http://www.svaasa.co...ents.aspx?word=

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I have heard that taking Alpha lipoic Acid after a meal with help with those sugar spikes and therfore reduce the incidence of acne..Can anyone comment on this? Im sure I saw it someones posts but I cant seem to locate it

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I have heard that taking Alpha lipoic Acid after a meal with help with those sugar spikes and therfore reduce the incidence of acne..Can anyone comment on this? Im sure I saw it someones posts but I cant seem to locate it

Go to the first post in this thread for info on improving glucose metabolism and avoiding insulin spikes. That's what I would do to answer this question because I can't remember everything. That's why I organized all this info here.

The only thing I can think of offhand that will help after a meal, is to do some brief intense physical activity like a few flights of stairs, heavy lifting, a sprint, squats, etc. Something that uses large muscles. To burn up the glucose stores in your cells so they can take in more.

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Intermittent Fasting may reduce hyperproliferation/hyperkeratinization:

Modified alternate-day fasting regimens reduce cell proliferation rates to a similar extent as daily calorie restriction in mice

http://www.fasebj.or...22/6/2090.short

This study is comparing the results of calorie restriction and alternate day fasting, and a modified method in which calories are reduced 85% on the alternate days. Apparently all methods produced the result of reduced cell proliferation. This study was about cancer so it mentions various cells--"keratinocytes, liver cells, mammary epithelial cells, and splenic T-cells"

Epidermal cell proliferation decreased (P<0.01) by 29, 20, and 31% in the CR-25%, ADF-85% and ADF-100% groups, respectively, relative to controls.

And

Insulin-like growth factor-1 levels were reduced (P<0.05) in the CR-25% and ADF-100% groups only.

So is the reduced cell proliferation soley due to the reduction in IGF-1? And is that totally due to improved glucose metabolism or is there an additional pathway?

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Note: I'd been planning on getting a handle on the methylation/histadelic/histamine/something else related theory on acne. so I'm gathering links to threads, articles and research:

http://www.acne.org/...imine-squalene/

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php/topic/297768-epigenetics/page__view__findpost__p__3103897

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php/topic/264918-histadelia-skinny-people-should-for-sure-read-this/page__view__findpost__p__2844723

http://www.enzymestu...methylation.htm

http://www.acne.org/...__fromsearch__1

http://www.acne.org/...__fromsearch__1

http://www.acne.org/...__fromsearch__1/

http://www.acne.org/...of-this-theory/

TH1/TH2 balance theory and excess Th2's relationship to a type 4 hypersensitivity: http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/12946237

http://www.acne.org/...__fromsearch__1

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    Chronic Inflammation: Silence is Deadly


    Inflammation comes and goes in your body as part of the normal healing process. However, prolonged inflammation can be devastating. Many people are experiencing ongoing, low-level inflammation without even knowing it—and this is a crucial factor behind chronic disease.

    This systemic or "silent" inflammation is the evil twin of oxidation, and where you find one, you nearly always find the other. But this type of inflammation doesn't cause you any pain—it lives "under the radar," quietly lingering for years and even decades, where it silently injures your heart, brain and immune system.

    Left unchecked, systemic inflammation can lead to anything from asthma to rheumatoid arthritis to Alzheimer's disease. In fact, the number of diseases linked to chronic inflammation is staggering:

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Wow, I was thinking a little while ago how hard it is to know what to do. It seems like when someone posts about how a certain food is good for your face, there is another post in the same thread telling you it is bad for your face. I respect the fact everyone has a different approach, but it became a bit much, and it got very confusing for someone just starting out.

Will definitely look over this thread and begin laying out a plan! Thanks alternativista!!!

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Wow, I was thinking a little while ago how hard it is to know what to do. It seems like when someone posts about how a certain food is good for your face, there is another post in the same thread telling you it is bad for your face. I respect the fact everyone has a different approach, but it became a bit much, and it got very confusing for someone just starting out.

Will definitely look over this thread and begin laying out a plan! Thanks alternativista!!!

It's only 'cause everyone's different. Yeah, its hard. I still have the feeling that I'm doing something wrong in the back of my mind almost always. Especially when results aren't immediate or garunteed.

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