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why do we feel the need to be beautiful?

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we live in a very shallow world, where beauty is idealized. so why is beauty so important in our society? what purpose does beauty have in a hunter gatherer sense. it is not essential to our survival, so why do we obsess over it? i work out to get stronger, but more for the look. while i was working out, and looking at other people that were working out to fit the definition of a perfect body, i had a major epiphany. i am never going to reach my goal, self improvement is like masturbation, you think you are satisfied but you want more. the truth is that you will never be able to satisfy your self, your desire. so why do we thrust for this unreachable idea?

the only explanation i can come up with is that the media have us brainwashed. companies are making profit off of our insecurities, our desires. i cant deny that i am also brainwashed. i buy a t shirt that cost $50 not because its worth $50 but because of the idea behind the shirt, the belief that if i buy this shirt i can look like the models in the commercial. when we buy a product, especially overpriced clothing, we are attracted to the idea that the clothing holds; it gives us a sense of self. the clothes you wear, the car you drive, the house you live in gives you an identity. maybe thats why we are so obsessed over shit we dont need. we just need to realize that the idea of identity is the biproduct of our fantasized world.

what is the purpose of this post.. to enlighten others? no. i dont have the power to enlighten others. when it comes down to it, its you that decides what you want to believe in, or how you want to look at your self. if you think ur ugly, then ur ugly. if your think your hot, then ur hot.

its really all up to you.

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“Too many people spend money they haven't earned, to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like.†-- Will Smith

Life is short, obviously people want to look good. The thing is when you are trying to look good your whole life, you won't live your life because you'll keep constantly trying to look better. My dream isn't to become the best looking person in my office or classroom. My dream is to travel the world and see new things. Appearance is so overrated and I believe that it's not how much you make or how good you look but how your heart is. A heart filled with pain and guilt will live a miserable life but will be rich, compared to the laid back backpack American wondering why he's in Europe. Oh and by the way it's spelled Beautiful. :)

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we live in a very shallow world, where beauty is idealized. so why is beauty so important in our society? what purpose does beauty have in a hunter gatherer sense. it is not essential to our survival, so why do we obsess over it? i work out to get stronger, but more for the look. while i was working out, and looking at other people that were working out to fit the definition of a perfect body, i had a major epiphany. i am never going to reach my goal, self improvement is like masturbation, you think you are satisfied but you want more. the truth is that you will never be able to satisfy your self, your desire. so why do we thrust for this unreachable idea?

the only explanation i can come up with is that the media have us brainwashed. companies are making profit off of our insecurities, our desires. i cant deny that i am also brainwashed. i buy a t shirt that cost $50 not because its worth $50 but because of the idea behind the shirt, the belief that if i buy this shirt i can look like the models in the commercial. when we buy a product, especially overpriced clothing, we are attracted to the idea that the clothing holds; it gives us a sense of self. the clothes you wear, the car you drive, the house you live in gives you an identity. maybe thats why we are so obsessed over shit we dont need. we just need to realize that the idea of identity is the biproduct of our fantasized world.

what is the purpose of this post.. to enlighten others? no. i dont have the power to enlighten others. when it comes down to it, its you that decides what you want to believe in, or how you want to look at your self. if you think ur ugly, then ur ugly. if your think your hot, then ur hot.

its really all up to you.

The reason all humans strive to be beautiful is because it helps our chances to replicate and pass off our genes....from an evolutionary standpoint the more beautiful you are the better chances you got of passing on your genes...simple as that. Companies don't have anyone brainwashed, that's just the way life is. If you're ugly then get plastic surgery. Life isn't fair for everyone so you gotta deal the best way you can.

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The reason all humans strive to be beautiful is because it helps our chances to replicate and pass off our genes....from an evolutionary standpoint the more beautiful you are the better chances you got of passing on your genes...simple as that. Companies don't have anyone brainwashed, that's just the way life is.

Agree about this bit. There are many ways to attract a mate and in our case it depends largery on our looks and actions. Personally, I just have an instinct telling me I want to be beautiful, I want to be attractive for me myself and all my possible "mates".

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we live in a very shallow world, where beauty is idealized. so why is beauty so important in our society? what purpose does beauty have in a hunter gatherer sense. it is not essential to our survival, so why do we obsess over it? i work out to get stronger, but more for the look. while i was working out, and looking at other people that were working out to fit the definition of a perfect body, i had a major epiphany. i am never going to reach my goal, self improvement is like masturbation, you think you are satisfied but you want more. the truth is that you will never be able to satisfy your self, your desire. so why do we thrust for this unreachable idea?

the only explanation i can come up with is that the media have us brainwashed. companies are making profit off of our insecurities, our desires. i cant deny that i am also brainwashed. i buy a t shirt that cost $50 not because its worth $50 but because of the idea behind the shirt, the belief that if i buy this shirt i can look like the models in the commercial. when we buy a product, especially overpriced clothing, we are attracted to the idea that the clothing holds; it gives us a sense of self. the clothes you wear, the car you drive, the house you live in gives you an identity. maybe thats why we are so obsessed over shit we dont need. we just need to realize that the idea of identity is the biproduct of our fantasized world.

what is the purpose of this post.. to enlighten others? no. i dont have the power to enlighten others. when it comes down to it, its you that decides what you want to believe in, or how you want to look at your self. if you think ur ugly, then ur ugly. if your think your hot, then ur hot.

its really all up to you.

The reason all humans strive to be beautiful is because it helps our chances to replicate and pass off our genes....from an evolutionary standpoint the more beautiful you are the better chances you got of passing on your genes...simple as that. Companies don't have anyone brainwashed, that's just the way life is. If you're ugly then get plastic surgery. Life isn't fair for everyone so you gotta deal the best way you can.

But it's the media and the corporations that are telling us what is and isnt beautiful. If we weren't exposed to such things as advertising then we would have our own perspective of what beauty is. When a proactive commercial comes on and tells us sublimity that we need to be clear in order to be beautiful, this is what alot of people will believe because the TV told them so. Look at a celebrity gossip magazine for example, they point out every flaw that a celebrity has and shows it to the world. The reader may believe that he or she isn't beautiful enough because they have the same flaw that the celebrity has. And that magazine just said to everyone reading it how ugly that paricular flaw is. There's alot more to life then good looks, i tend to forget this at times as it sometimes seems impossible to avoid in this time we live in.

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The reason all humans strive to be beautiful is because it helps our chances to replicate and pass off our genes....from an evolutionary standpoint the more beautiful you are the better chances you got of passing on your genes...simple as that. Companies don't have anyone brainwashed, that's just the way life is. If you're ugly then get plastic surgery. Life isn't fair for everyone so you gotta deal the best way you can.

If you're ugly, get plastic surgery? That's the answer? Wtf

It's not about passing on genes. It's about being noticed because people in general want to be loved or admired. So many girls look at magazines and they believe that the models define beauty. So they try hard to be like them. When I was in elementary school (and mind you I'm only 20), girls didn't wear skirts that only covered their ass or make-up. Now when I go pick up my little cousin, I see young girls with dyed hair wearing revealing clothes. I also blame some parents for this since they want their children to be "in style" and beautiful.

I had to do a research for Psych and I asked a couple of high school and middle school students about what they thought "beautiful" meant and the majority of the answers I got were: "Flawless skin," "big eyes," "big ass and boobs," "skinny," etc. I asked them why they thought that and they answered, "Oh, cause Jessica Alba is hot," "magazines show hot people," "Cause celebrities are beautiful." The media has affected our minds. People are going to do more and more to become beautiful...to a point where they'll become plastic Barbie and Ken dolls. It's sad

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People are drawn to beauty. Flawless skin is supposed to be a sign of good health and is advantageous from an evolutionary perspective. The media is aware of this, beautiful people sell things. Consumers, desperate for self-esteem and approval, are willing to spend hundreds of dollars on products that won't affect them that much. But they'll do it anyway because it helps quell their fears and doubt.

I personally think it's essential to my survival. I look at it this way. I am one of millions of college students. I'm one of thousands in my major. I'm no savant, just an above average student who works hard. When I go looking for a job in this declining economy, I'm competing against dozens (if not more) of applicants for the same position.

If I'm competing against a group of people with similar backgrounds, personalities, motivation and skills, what makes me stand apart from the rest? It's sad, but employers do judge you according to your appearance. My old manager told me, "Between two girls of the same experience and skills, I'll pick the prettier one. Pretty girls encourage customers (like adolescent boys) to come into the store and purchase in hopes of managing some social interaction."

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^ If I ever worked in a commercial business I think I would try to get good looking people with very noticeable acne/acne scars to star in the commercial. I think people would remember the commercial much better if they saw something different about the actors. Plus, I think it would help society in general to become more acceptive of acne.

When applying for a job, I also think that acne could work as an advantage, 'cause the employer will remember you better if there are 100+ applicants for the job.

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ccjk, I agree with you. In our era, our cultural media has a major impact on what we deem beautiful. The Mursi tribe in Ethiopia consider stretched lips and ears to be beautiful. Kayans in Thailand think elongated necks are beautiful. If a popular celebrity in our culture did something out of the norm, you can bet a fan would follow suit and then another and another. If anyone in the beauty and/or fashion industry sees potential profit you can bet a new beauty trend will be marketed and adopted. In our culture, we've gone beyond the simple scope of finding a suitable mate. Now we strive to be idolized, envied, and lusted after by others whether or not we have a mate.

Side note: Stick thin used to be "it", but have you noticed how much bad press underweight folks get lately (Nicole Richie, Lara Flynn Boyle, Spain refusing models under a certain BMI, etc.)? On the other end of the spectrum, scientists' warnings regarding obesity are everywhere. Even the government gets involved (NYC's ban on trans fats). I've read a couple of articles recently showing that Jessica Simpson has put on a few pounds. The media tore her up even though she still looks great and healthy, and now others are stepping forward on her behalf and ridiculing the media. I imagine the next trend in beauty (for women at least) will be geared more towards being in the middle - not stick thin, but not overweight - much like the 50's. My point is, beauty trends change all of the time. Maybe one day having acne will be "in"? :) Hey, it could happen!

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Very good question...for me personally, i have been through so much in my life and the one thing that kept me from losing it was my looks...as vain as it may sound i could look into the mirror and feel that everything will be alright...for example, i was dumped real bad and then id do whatever i can to look my best and that would tell me that i wont have a problem getting another gf

the better i look the better i feel and im more confident in whatever i am doing

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Maybe one day having acne will be "in"? :) Hey, it could happen!

nope never going to happen; companies are making too much money off of it.

I heard this from somewhere but in some countries being fat is considered beautiful. It's also a sign of luxury b/c it shows that you have money to buy food, don't have to do physical work... of course this is the case in the 3rd world countries, even if they want to get fat, they cant. there isnt even enough food to stay alive.

the fundamental idea of beauty is very vague. your definition of beauty is really not YOUR definition, you didn't come up with it. there is someone in power (the media) that gave you that definition, and your just following it. Big tits and ass.. why are we attracted to it? because T.V, magazines, porn, ect, says we should be.

its sad, but its the truth. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. i accept that there is noting i, alone, can do to change this. we follow our social norm because nobody wants to be an outcast. its much easier to follow a leader than to make your own path. but maybe people will notice that something is not right, there is something wrong with our lifestyle. we dont know what it exactly is but we know its there, like an itch that you cant scratch.

I know that i'm too weak to reject the norm, but maybe, maybe there is somebody out there that will challenge our society, question the norm. save us from walking the wrong path and introduce us to a new one. maybe.

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lol, this proves how much your right...

as I was reading what you wrote, I was so shallow that I became jealous reading about the shirt thing thinking, "I wish I had $50 to spend on a new Hollister or Abercrombie shirt. people will like me better because I dress in expensive stuff. I wonder what shirt he got..."

I'm pathetic :dry:

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If we all had the access to beauty products/airbrushing/stylists/propaganda that people like Jessica Alba get, I'm sure all of you could look just as good, if not better.

But then is so much processing beauty anymore?

I think beauty is smiles, laughter, and confidence. Sure, stay fit, healthy, take care of yourself...but to me, beauty is always natural... it's like what's on the inside shines through to the outside.

"Beautiful" these days is all big boobs, tiny waist, glossy hair.

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I think beauty is smiles, laughter, and confidence. Sure, stay fit, healthy, take care of yourself...but to me, beauty is always natural... it's like what's on the inside shines through to the outside.

I agree

Why do we feel the need to be beautiful? - So that your nice to look at and wont burn other peoples eyes

:lol: Most of your posts make me laugh :lol:

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very good post. To put it simply and looking at human history and our evolution. The whole beautification concept intensified since 1920's when consumption shift from human needs to human desires changed. This is the time when first companies started to experiment with marketing and human psychology because all these freudian ideas emerged. So what happened human desires began manipulated on a large scale because technology was available. But the fact is that our emotions, our need to be reproductive and our ego (which is stronger in the West) made this transition possible.

But of course business interests and probably government did not stop there but they created consumption cycles for people. In order to have strong economy u need to have consumers buying staff all the time. in example company that owns I hoops desert fast food place also owns drug companies that manufactures drugs for diabetes. This is more evident example. But if u were to look at how north america diet change in the past 40 years its quite remarkable i think 70% of what we eat today consists of sugar, sodium, hydrogenated oils, alcohol and something else i forgot. Anyway the point is we eat shitier we get greater proportion of chronic diseases. and because health care is not governmental we pay for it. Case with acne is that there is so acne that is hormonal and there is other that is food related. So idea is to instill this beautification concept in our mind to the point of obsession for economic purposes. Of course other there is also that so of us are just self obsessive naturally. This is were we could speculated all day long which type we are but the fact is that there is economic motivation behind this.

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Robert, humans are much more complex than wild animals. We don't copulate in specific seasons, the females would most likely murder any male should he come in to kill off our children just so he could mate with us in order to pass on his genes, and someone with a lot of money has no problem finding mates no matter what he/she looks or smells like.

We would still seek out beauty whether or not the media were involved. I firmly believe that the media is not being portrayed as a simple scapegoat. In our culture, it plays a huge role in shaping what we view as beautiful. I'm not bashing the media. They give us what we want, y'know? I'm making an observation. Beauty is quite subjective indeed, but for the most part, the media tells us what we should strive for in respect to appearance and smell. It's easy to say we're above their influence, but are we really? If we were, this thread would not exist and beauty would not be such a huge industry.

Humans, when not living in privation, are an egocentric lot.

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We can bring pale back

:hifive:

EDIT: or we can go to Japan where i believe pale skin is what most want

lol, pale is the new tan!

lol, yeah I think the japan idea is more likely... i think they would love us, especially because my skin is sorta this color :ghost:

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