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Bandido, is your regimen really the result of a doctor and a skin care professional? Wow. Sometimes I question these people's judgments. No, I'm not licensed to be a dermatologist but sometimes I feel that way from all the years I've spent on this board browsing through threads, reading people's problems, and noticing what works and what doesn't. What works is rarely the same for everyone, but I can honestly say I never recall anyone with an external regimen as expensive (or powerful) as yours actually working.

Yes this is the result of a doctor and a skin care professional. I switched doctors recently because my old one had gotten me no where.

Are these people a joke. Is that skin care regimen a complete joke? Thats what I thought when they gave it all to me. I thought there was NO WAY that could help and it only seemed like it would make things worse. But my Mom convinced me into trusting them because she thinks they are SO GOOD, and they KNOW WHAT they are taking about. Clearly not. I was even willing to trust them because I have been dealing with this shit for so long I am ready to try anything.

So should I ditch these doctors and start looking for another derm? Are the facials and extractions useless? Because I absolutley hate getting them. They hurt SOOO bad.

I have noticed something. That in the last 10 weeks I have been seeing this doctor and facialist. I have also been on a very strict diet. I have always got acne on my back and chest as well but over the last few weeks I have stopped breaking out on my back and have been breaking out way less on my chest. I stopped doing anything but washing with water. But this whole time I have been using so much stuff on my face. Do you think that I should try using nothing but water on my face also?

The only reason I am skeptical is because I have been using retin-a for ten weeks and it hasn't really started working so if I stop now, and my acne doesn't go away. Then I just wasted the last 10 weeks of trying retin-a.

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hey Bandito,

just got through reading the posts on this thread, and have to express my solidarity with you. I also am 22 and have also been dealing with this bullshit for way too long. I've been on 2 courses of Accutane that had me clear for about 5 months each and then I was right back to the beginning.

currently i'm using some products that are just a mild cleanser, moisturizer, and salicylic spot treatment. although i'm having a little bit of success, i still breakout just about every fucking day.

i know exactly how you are feeling, in terms of this problem taking over your life. it's been doing it to me for nearly my entire adolescent to adult life as well. i wish i had some good advice to share, but i'm currently in the same bind.

i think when it all gets too overwhelming it's important to remember that our skin condition ultimately shouldn't define who we are. society has certainly made it an extremely painful and damaging condition, but i know that i'm still fortunate in many other respects. i have a free life, and an otherwise healthy body, and as long as i'm able to get over this barrier i will have a nearly perfect life.

now the challenge is just to mentally overcome it. i think that we, along with everyone on this site, need to make that our main goal. good luck to you brother, and i hope we are both able to see brighter days.

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You say you're on a strict diet. Can i ask what your diet is like? What do you eat?

Learn to trust yourself. If you think all those products are just aggravating the acne, just stop. Try new things and new methods. Take on a different approaches.

I know how you're feeling man. My face used to look like yours when i was 13-15. I became extremely anti-social and introverted. I eventually got myself completely clear (around 20) and gained a little self-confidence, but being anti-social had just become part of my behaviour by then. Anyway, at the age of 26, my acne has started up again. I was dealing with SERIOUS neck acne and some acne in the hairline and temples. I discovered that dairy and soy were aggravating it, so i stopped consuming those two and it's all getting better.

Consider yourself lucky that you have all your hair. I'm receding with diffuse loss right now, and let me tell you, losing hair is a whole different ballgame. (and for anyone that's curious, stopping dairy has actually slowed down the loss). Losing hair and neck acne. It fucking sucks.

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You say you're on a strict diet. Can i ask what your diet is like? What do you eat?

Learn to trust yourself. If you think all those products are just aggravating the acne, just stop. Try new things and new methods. Take on a different approaches.

I know how you're feeling man. My face used to look like yours when i was 13-15. I became extremely anti-social and introverted. I eventually got myself completely clear (around 20) and gained a little self-confidence, but being anti-social had just become part of my behaviour by then. Anyway, at the age of 26, my acne has started up again. I was dealing with SERIOUS neck acne and some acne in the hairline and temples. I discovered that dairy and soy were aggravating it, so i stopped consuming those two and it's all getting better.

Consider yourself lucky that you have all your hair. I'm receding with diffuse loss right now, and let me tell you, losing hair is a whole different ballgame. (and for anyone that's curious, stopping dairy has actually slowed down the loss). Losing hair and neck acne. It fucking sucks.

I tried a Gluten Free, Sugar free, dairy free and soy free diet for 6 weeks but didn't really see any difference in my skin.

Now I still do not eat any dairy. I eat very limited amounts of sugar and that comes in the form of adding honey to my tea, or adding honey or maple syrup to recipes. I eat hardly any soy, the only soy I get is from soy sauce used occasionally in recipes. I eat almost NO gluten still but occasionally will eat a whole wheat bagel or some whole wheat pasta when I am to lazy to cook, maybe a few times a month.

A sample day of food for me would be something like:

Breakfast:

Steel Cut oats w/

fresh berries and banana OR chopped walnuts, raisins, cranberries.

Hemp Milk

3-4 strips of organic turkey bacon

1 grapefruit

1 orange

(I usually have basically the same breakfast every morning)

Lunch:

Mixed green salad W/

Chicken

Mandarin oranges

bell peppers

cucumbers

pine nuts

home made vinaigrette

( I eat a different lunch everyday but basically, Chicken w/ salad green, spinach, arugula, avacado, tomatoes, bell peppers, onions, cucumbers, walnuts, cashews, pine nuts, onions, mushrooms, carrots, olives, radishes etc..... Basically a fat salad, I try to vary it everyday)

Dinner:

A protein, usually chicken breasts or fish. But I also eat, pork tenderloin, lean beef steaks, lamb, and occasionally crab, shrimp, or scallops.

A large serving of vegetables. I have different vegetables every night. Pick a vegetable, any vegetable, I EAT IT. Leafy greens included. Kale, Swiss chard, etc....

A lot of times I will also have some sweet potatoes or yams. Or some rice or some sort, Jasmine rice, brown rice, wild rice, Risotto.

And a green salad with a few veggies. Or sometimes a green salad with just salad greens and fresh herbs. Mint, basil, parsley, chives, tarragon, cilantro, etc.....

Snacks

My snacks are usually: Seeds and Nuts; pumkins seeds, sunflower seeds. I buy them raw and roast them my self. Cashews, pecans, walnuts.

I sometimes have dried fruits, mangos, rasins, etc....

Raw veggies with hummus. carrots, celery, cauliflower, cherry tomatoes.

Crackers made from flax seeds, brown rice and some other seeds.

Almond butter.

Fruit. I mostly eat grapefruits, oranges, apples and bananas. But I also will buy several other kinds of fruit throughout the week. Pineapple, mangos, kiwi, grapes, peaches, pears, cantalope etc.... It depends on what is in season.

I eat NO processed foods of any kind.

I eat nothing produced by americans, I only buy food in its natural state then prepare it myself.

My only fat sources come from the food itself. Fish, nuts, meat etc.... And extra virgin olive oil.

I use several different kinds of sea salt. No iodized salt.

I also don't eat eggs.

I drink only water. Occasionally caffine free herbal tea. I will drink red wine sometimes with dinner if it complements it and I smoke weed but not if I am feeling depressed.

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You say you're on a strict diet. Can i ask what your diet is like? What do you eat?

Learn to trust yourself. If you think all those products are just aggravating the acne, just stop. Try new things and new methods. Take on a different approaches.

I know how you're feeling man. My face used to look like yours when i was 13-15. I became extremely anti-social and introverted. I eventually got myself completely clear (around 20) and gained a little self-confidence, but being anti-social had just become part of my behaviour by then. Anyway, at the age of 26, my acne has started up again. I was dealing with SERIOUS neck acne and some acne in the hairline and temples. I discovered that dairy and soy were aggravating it, so i stopped consuming those two and it's all getting better.

Consider yourself lucky that you have all your hair. I'm receding with diffuse loss right now, and let me tell you, losing hair is a whole different ballgame. (and for anyone that's curious, stopping dairy has actually slowed down the loss). Losing hair and neck acne. It fucking sucks.

Well all of the men on both sides of my family have lost their hair so I am sure my time will come eventually.

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Hey Bandito, I'm glad you are having success with diet. It is quite possible if you stick with a clean, easy-to-digest det for a month you can significantly reduce scarring. We're the same age, and a diet that is mostly green leafy veg plus small amounts of protein with some added fats like EVOO really has done wonders for me. I feel much better when I limit my intake of heated foods too.

Thats the thing though. I am not really having any success with diet. I can tell no changes in my skin from anything I have done. That is why I am so frustrated.

Is it possible that there is NO treatment that will give me clear skin?

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Thats the thing though. I am not really having any success with diet. I can tell no changes in my skin from anything I have done. That is why I am so frustrated.

Is it possible that there is NO treatment that will give me clear skin?

It sounds like you're pretty much at the end of your rope about this, and I completely understand the feeling of having tried everything and having had nothing work the way you want it to.

With that said, I think that there's some hope here - there are always new things to try, even when it seems like you have exhausted every single possibility. For example, it's pretty safe to say that the regimen that you are on is not only far from the best, and it's almost certainly what's making your skin so irritated and raw all the time. So think of it this way: the problem is not that your skin is so stubborn that even top-of-the-line care and products didn't work at all - on the contrary, all the shit your doctors have you doing would probably fuck up anyone's face, especially a sensitive one with acne. It's not that you have no options, because now you know exactly what what needs to be changed. I know it's kind of hard to write off that much effort, but there is pretty much no possible way that the people that you are seeing are competent - they should know better, especially given how incredibly irritated you said your face is.

On the positive side of things, it seems like your financial situation is pretty fortunate. There is a clinic that a lot of people here have used - www.facerealityskincare.com. They even do long distance consultations, and it's definitely worth a shot - they seem to really know their stuff, and it will probably be cheaper than your current doctors. Also, I would go see a psychologist - even people who have a lot less mental stress to deal with than you go to therapy regularly. Shop around and find one you like. It's pretty clear that this has hit you really hard, and you really need to find someone to talk to.

Also, your diet is probably perfect. Keep it up, but don't stress too much about it.

I know how it may look like there's no way out, but I feel like you can probably make huge progress just by being in the care of people who know what they're doing.

1. Drop your current doctors

2. Try the facerealityskincare.com people - you can look around these message boards for people with firsthand experience with them

3. See a psychologist - look at who your insurance covers, and visit several near you to see who you like

edit: Hope this doesn't seem like I'm shilling for the facereality people, I just know that people here seem to recommend them. You could always look up the very best acne or skincare clinic in your state, and give that a try instead.

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Hey, I'm an adult and I had really bad acne. I have just recently cleared up and now just have alot of red on my face. The main reason was stress and here is the kicker the acne was causing the acne. I was so stressed about acne that the stress caused the acne. I was periodically clear at different times and couldn't figure out why and thought it was because of this variable and that variable and then I realized that I wasn't as stressed out during those times. When I realized that I stopped focusing on the acne and my face started to clear up dramtically. I also eat a cleaner diet as well. I have alot of red marks so my face definetly isn't perfect. I also had seb derm that went down alot as well. Stress does play a huge role in acne especially for adult acne. I think for adult acne you have to look at some of the behaviors we do because it really shouldn't be hormonal at this point. From what I have read it seems like you are stressed every second of every day. I suggest you try an experiment and not stress about the acne for a month and I think you might see an improvement.

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You say you're on a strict diet. Can i ask what your diet is like? What do you eat?

Learn to trust yourself. If you think all those products are just aggravating the acne, just stop. Try new things and new methods. Take on a different approaches.

I know how you're feeling man. My face used to look like yours when i was 13-15. I became extremely anti-social and introverted. I eventually got myself completely clear (around 20) and gained a little self-confidence, but being anti-social had just become part of my behaviour by then. Anyway, at the age of 26, my acne has started up again. I was dealing with SERIOUS neck acne and some acne in the hairline and temples. I discovered that dairy and soy were aggravating it, so i stopped consuming those two and it's all getting better.

Consider yourself lucky that you have all your hair. I'm receding with diffuse loss right now, and let me tell you, losing hair is a whole different ballgame. (and for anyone that's curious, stopping dairy has actually slowed down the loss). Losing hair and neck acne. It fucking sucks.

yes, yes it does. im basically at the point where i need to shave my head or cut it very short, but im hesitant because i have what i think is folliculitis broken out at the top of the back of my neck. id really like to get my skin cleared up before i did anything drastic like that.

Oh... also got the back/shoulders acne going pretty strong too. anyways, good luck to you bandito. it seems like the worst is behind you.

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I'm in the same boat as you (same age); however, im pretty much cleared up now.

IMO: your using too much chemicals on your face, and since you used accutane it has damaged your internals. You need to start cleaning your inside. Have ever done any detox before? you should get on asap. I see you're already eating healthy, stay away from processed foods/wheat/diary.

Maintaining an acne free face takes time and dedication.

Here's a site that helped me a lot on proper dieting and cleansing: www.curezone.com

Also, have you tried the urine therapy? read the up reviews of on it (http://www.acne.org/urine-therapy-reviews/524/page1.html), it might be your solution.

PS, I feel your pain bro and I hope you get cleared up soon.

If have another questions, feel free to PM me.

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I feel for you- that must be really hard! My skin has been bad in the past- it is very hard on your self esteem and it stops my life when it is really bad. Spironolactone helps a lot! Not sure if you have tried this or if you can take it. I was thinking if it ever got bad again I would try accupuncture and/or an endocrinologist. I know mine is hormonal. Good luck!

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Here are the photos of my face. Its worse in real life but you can still see that it looks irritated in the photos. My acne has improved alot but I still get new acne everyday and my clogged pores/ blackheads are still wide spread. In my ears, behind my ears, covering my nose, chin and forehead. But the super painful cysts have calmed down considerably. Except for some in my neck.

What should I do. I have been using retin-a and clidamyacin for almost 10 weeks now. I have only been using all of the other products for a week and a half.

My skin is SOOOOO fucking irritated. It burns and itches and throbs and cracks and peels and is oily and sticky all at the same time. I can't handle this shit for 1 more second. I want to rip my face of. I don't want to just stop using all of this things because I don't want my acne to come back as bad as it was. I've been treating my acne full on with everything I have for the last 10 months and I am broken down and feel like I have been stripped from all enjoyment out of life. I can't handle it anymore I want to give up.

Man that look's painful!!! I FEEL YOU, SERIOUSLY.. I KNOW how it feels!! I want to give up too.

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try B5 ... maybe it works..since u dont wanna take accutane again (maybe a ultra low dose like 20mg ever 3 days would be fine?)

and i agree drop every chemical , just splash ur face with luke warm water twice a day and maybe a moisturizer..let ur skin relax some time..

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Bandito--

This is my first post. I've been lurking on and off here for a couple of years but your situation urged me to post. I'm sorry you're going through so much stress and turmoil because of your skin. I also hate my skin, although I suppose it could be worse. I had clear skin for most of my life and then a couple of years ago I started breaking out (I'm 29 now). I am guessing that my body was changing--hormones-- and acne was a result. Distressed, I have tries dozens of expensive products to combat my acne. I have not seen a derm-- mostly because I am avoiding prescription drugs, esp. accutane and birth control. But based on my experience with hormonal cystic persistent acne, here are some tips.

*Like everyone said, STOP using so many products! You are really, really irritating your skin. I did the exact same thing-- threw on BP, acids, actives all at once thinking more is better. My acne would dry up at first, but a few days later my face would respond to the irritation and explode with even more acne and be red on top of that.

*STOP going to your esthetician. I did the exact same thing-- for 10 weeks. I hated it! It was a painful experience every time for 2 hrs. She did all sorts of crap to my face, including painful extractions. My face got 5x WORSE by the time she was done. It took over a year for my skin to recover from her.

*GENTLE is key. You still need to clean your face, because obviously your pores are being clogged. However, there are ways to clean it gently.

*Go for anti-inflammatory products. For anti-acne, I would recommend sulfur based products. I like Mario Badescu's buffering lotion for cystic acne. It's not a cure-all but it helps without being too harsh. The special healing powder also helps calm my skin and it will help with your oil control. It tones down redness as well. You can get these at Nordstrom, and if you aren't satisfied, they have an excellent return policy. You can return anything you don't like, even if you used it.

Here are some products that I have found effective. None of these will CURE your acne (I really don't think there is a magic bullet) but I think these are good helpers and all reasonably priced. I hate how I spent so much $$$ on useless products.

*Nano Cyclic Silver Cleanser (nanocyclic.com)

this cleanser is based on nano technology, so the colloidal silver (which has anti-bacterial power) gets deep into your pores while other cleansers are only able to clean at the surface. It's an expensive product, but if you go on ebay, you can get a travel size for about $7 (including S&H) that will last you 2-3 weeks depending on use. There are 2 kinds, pink and silver. You should probably get silver. It looks like a bar of soap, you lather it in your hands and apply the lather to your face and leave on 6 minutes. I did this 2-3 times a day for the first week and it did a decent job on my current acne. It also does a good job with exfoliation-- even better than my glycolic acid based creams. It can be slightly drying, so you should use an oil-free moisturizer after if you feel tight.

*Finacea

This is an RX but I got mine from an Australian company bc it's OTC there. It helps with redness and makes my acne pass more quickly. Some people had great success with this. It wasn't as effective for me, but I do think it helps a little. I don't use this every day. I alternate between this and an acid product. I use ONE stronger product at a time to avoid irritation. You can order this at (www.epharmacy.com.au)

*Aspirin mask

This is an awesome mask that helps fade discoloration and heals pimples. I should do this 1-2 times a week but I get lazy. I just did it last night and when I woke up my skin looked brighter and my darker areas from old acne looked lighter. You can uncoated aspirin ($1 a jar) and drop a bit of water in about 6 pieces. Crush it up with a spoon-- you don't need much water, just about 2 drops per tablet. Then you can add in all sorts of stuff. Here are some of the things I add in (not all at once, I change it up): honey, sugar, yogurt, green tea extract, collagen, Queene Helene Mint Julep Mask. I leave on for 10-20 minutes, and then when I rinse it off, I gently exfoliate with the aspirin grains. This is a very CHEAP mask and works well for the cost.

*I see that you're using Jan Marini. I used several of her products as well. Her glycolic cleanser is something I still use. Make sure you are using this correctly!! You apply on DRY skin, then leave on for a few minutes like a mask. THEN rinse off. Water deactivates glycolic acid. If you want a good glycolic, a much cheaper alternative that still works well is the Alpha Hydrox Souffle. It contains 12% glycolic acid. A jar costs about $12 and lasts for a while.

*Fish Oil supplements, b6 supplements, biotin all help your skin too. I am also using Saw Palmetto because it inhibits testosterone and my acne is hormonal. Perhaps you can try that too, although some men reported strange side effects. It's usually used for men and prostate health anyway, so it should be ok.

Lastly, you might want to look into trying some chemical peels. I just ordered a few from makeupartistschoice.com

I would wait to do this until after your acne has calmed a bit more. Perhaps you can continue using glycolic acids and then try a 30% glycolic peel and work your way up. These peels are the kinds you can get at the derm, but at a fraction of the cost. I did a bunch of research on these, and while you have to be VERY careful bc they're strong, they can also be very effective on acne and acne scars.

Hang in there! You CAN improve your skin. Just be gentle and patient. Skin takes time to heal.

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You say you're on a strict diet. Can i ask what your diet is like? What do you eat?

Learn to trust yourself. If you think all those products are just aggravating the acne, just stop. Try new things and new methods. Take on a different approaches.

I know how you're feeling man. My face used to look like yours when i was 13-15. I became extremely anti-social and introverted. I eventually got myself completely clear (around 20) and gained a little self-confidence, but being anti-social had just become part of my behaviour by then. Anyway, at the age of 26, my acne has started up again. I was dealing with SERIOUS neck acne and some acne in the hairline and temples. I discovered that dairy and soy were aggravating it, so i stopped consuming those two and it's all getting better.

Consider yourself lucky that you have all your hair. I'm receding with diffuse loss right now, and let me tell you, losing hair is a whole different ballgame. (and for anyone that's curious, stopping dairy has actually slowed down the loss). Losing hair and neck acne. It fucking sucks.

I tried a Gluten Free, Sugar free, dairy free and soy free diet for 6 weeks but didn't really see any difference in my skin.

Now I still do not eat any dairy. I eat very limited amounts of sugar and that comes in the form of adding honey to my tea, or adding honey or maple syrup to recipes. I eat hardly any soy, the only soy I get is from soy sauce used occasionally in recipes. I eat almost NO gluten still but occasionally will eat a whole wheat bagel or some whole wheat pasta when I am to lazy to cook, maybe a few times a month.

A sample day of food for me would be something like:

Breakfast:

Steel Cut oats w/

fresh berries and banana OR chopped walnuts, raisins, cranberries.

Hemp Milk

3-4 strips of organic turkey bacon

1 grapefruit

1 orange

(I usually have basically the same breakfast every morning)

Lunch:

Mixed green salad W/

Chicken

Mandarin oranges

bell peppers

cucumbers

pine nuts

home made vinaigrette

( I eat a different lunch everyday but basically, Chicken w/ salad green, spinach, arugula, avacado, tomatoes, bell peppers, onions, cucumbers, walnuts, cashews, pine nuts, onions, mushrooms, carrots, olives, radishes etc..... Basically a fat salad, I try to vary it everyday)

Dinner:

A protein, usually chicken breasts or fish. But I also eat, pork tenderloin, lean beef steaks, lamb, and occasionally crab, shrimp, or scallops.

A large serving of vegetables. I have different vegetables every night. Pick a vegetable, any vegetable, I EAT IT. Leafy greens included. Kale, Swiss chard, etc....

A lot of times I will also have some sweet potatoes or yams. Or some rice or some sort, Jasmine rice, brown rice, wild rice, Risotto.

And a green salad with a few veggies. Or sometimes a green salad with just salad greens and fresh herbs. Mint, basil, parsley, chives, tarragon, cilantro, etc.....

Snacks

My snacks are usually: Seeds and Nuts; pumkins seeds, sunflower seeds. I buy them raw and roast them my self. Cashews, pecans, walnuts.

I sometimes have dried fruits, mangos, rasins, etc....

Raw veggies with hummus. carrots, celery, cauliflower, cherry tomatoes.

Crackers made from flax seeds, brown rice and some other seeds.

Almond butter.

Fruit. I mostly eat grapefruits, oranges, apples and bananas. But I also will buy several other kinds of fruit throughout the week. Pineapple, mangos, kiwi, grapes, peaches, pears, cantalope etc.... It depends on what is in season.

I eat NO processed foods of any kind.

I eat nothing produced by americans, I only buy food in its natural state then prepare it myself.

My only fat sources come from the food itself. Fish, nuts, meat etc.... And extra virgin olive oil.

I use several different kinds of sea salt. No iodized salt.

I also don't eat eggs.

I drink only water. Occasionally caffine free herbal tea. I will drink red wine sometimes with dinner if it complements it and I smoke weed but not if I am feeling depressed.

Hey bandito...i totally feel for u..my acne isnt as bad as yours, but having dark skin makes any level of acne horrible cuz i end up with these horrible black hyperpigmentation spots that will stay there for at LEAST 3 months..anyways, I wanted to comment on ur diet... During the summer, I decided to completely change my diet and saw realllly gr8 results..like ppl were actually commenting on my skin and someone actually said i had 'perfect skin' which was gr8 to hear...however, i got over confident and started cheating here and there, and now im back to square 1, and with the holidays ive been eating much worse... ANYWAYSSSS...although ur diet seems good, there are a couple of foods in there that actually do aggravate acne:

-oranges and any citric fruits are bad for acne (although vitamin C is gr8 for skin)

-mangoes

-potatos

-rice

-dried fruit like raisins

-red meat (try to stick to chicken and fish--especially salmon)

Most of the foods up there, although usually healty, tend to create a big spike in blood sugar which then leads to inflammation in ppl with acne...So try looking up an anti inflammatory diet...I mean, ur diet is already pretty good, but try cutting out some of those foods and hopefully ull see some change.

I pesonally followed the Perricone diet with gr8 results...and im planning on going back to it as of next week...

But anyways, best of luck to u and plz dont give up... I think I speak for the majority of the ppl here when I say we understand how u feel...ppl with perfect skin dont think acne is a big deal, but when uve had to live with it 24/7 for years, it eventually starts to hurt. But try to enjoy life as much as u can. Try talking to ur friends again and go out! Friends dont care wether or not u have acne! Just try to have a bit of fun alright!

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Hi there!

In reading here, I see that you've gotten some great advice.

What do you think of everyone's suggestions? Do you think you might try them?

I have one question, have you had an allergy test? just curious..it's amazing what some people can be allergic to and we don't even know it.

Also, have you tried a more 'nature friendly' approach... like Tea tree oil?

If I have learned anything in my 16 years of battling acne it is to be GENTLE.

I started to notice how much I touched my face, scratched my face, picked at it..etc... with cystic acne it always made me want to squeeze or scratch because it would at least take the pain away... ya and that's not healthy to do either....

I completely get your frustration and all the other feelings that come with adult acne.

You will find something that works for you, we all will.

It's amazing how much is also in our minds...we always see ourselves in a harsher way than we truly are... we are our worst critics... stop fighting with your skin, be gentle with it.

Good Luck and please continue to keep us posted!!

I'm truly looking forward to hearing how your story unfolds.

BE well :)

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I pretty much used to be in the same boat as you and I still have quite a few scars. I was extremely depressed and kept to myself because I didn't want to go out into the world with my friends. The depression and isolation killed my grades and hurt my relationships. Then one day I had a breakdown and basically just said f*** it.

It looks and sounds like you are making progress even though your spending a ton of money. Seems like the problem is your attitude towards life. I'd recommend to stop caring about your acne from an emotional standpoint. Get a hobby, drink some red wine everyday and chill out. Smoke some pot if you have to. Get a girlfriend and get laid. Honestly there are a lot of women out there with pretty bad acne that you cant notice because they wear a ton of makeup. Just start hitting on random girls, don't get let down with rejection because most women are vain and impossible anyways. Keep trying till you find some really hot girl with some random physical defect that makes her have low self esteem, then go at it like rabbits. Sex seems to clear up acne pretty well.

Try a simple and convenient with basically just a cleanser and dove or neutrogena soap bar in the shower. Then apply low concentration BP afterwards. For breakfast just eat whatever you want thats not obviously horrible for you, like mcdonalds and fried food. If you like fish, which it looks like you do, eat canned kippered herring for breakfast with poached or scrambled eggs with toast and your oatmeal. Try eating sardines as snacks. Then start working out because that crapload of protein you eat will get you ripped, plus theres also loads of omega 3 in it. Don't get bummed out if you are the only guy at the gym with acne on your face, because most of them have acne everywhere else from steroids and creatine.

Stop dwelling on it. Your depression and stress probably makes it worse. Just be thankful that you have all your limbs (if you do) and your head. Being alive is a lot better than being dead. Meditation is what prestigious and stuck up people do. Your'e young, don't spend your younger years in the emotional shitter just because you have some red marks on your face.

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Stop using all the chemicals on your face for one, stop paying hundreds of dollars on the painful facials (they are most likely doing perminant damage to your face), stop all the cleansers and everything you are using. Just wash your face with water only, warm water, thats it.. id reccomend a moisturizer when going to bed (non-pore clogging) and continue that for a week or 2 and see if you improve.

All those things you are doing to your face is irritating your skin, making you break out horribly.. please listen to my advice.. i think you have done alot of scar damage already from all the things you are doing.

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My skin is SOOOOO fucking irritated. It burns and itches and throbs and cracks and peels and is oily and sticky all at the same time.

Basically your skin is pleading for MOISTURIZER, peeling and cracking is a sign of desperate need of hydration, get a noncomedogenic or non-pore clogging moisturizer NOW! and use it everyday before you goto bed and leave it on while you sleep. You are in desperate need of moisturizer man, if only you moisturized you wouldnt have these cysts at all. And all the chemical cleansers like BP and all the ACIDS and products for acne is just flaring up your breakouts even more.. please stop using them, get a gentle face cleanser WITHOUT BP or any glycolic acid, sulfur or harsh chemicals. I wish you the best, i hope you listen to me.

Adam

p.s.: the reason why you are oily is because you are dry, your body trys to make up for the dryness by overworking the sebum glands.

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Reading your post,I can totally feel your pain.

I had to go to 3 different dermatologists before I found a good one,so maybe the one you are going to isnt the guy for you.It does seem as though you are on an awful lot of products.

Can I suggest a book that really helped me alot?

It's called Healing adult Acne by Richard g. Fried. I got it two winters ago when I was so depressed I didnt leave my house for 4 months.

It's not like a miracle cure book or anything,but it has alot of useful knowledge in it about acne and the different treatments for it.

It also talks about how acne effects us psychologically and how to deal with that.

I'm on ZIANA~ which is Retna-A and Clindimycin (same as you),and I have to say at first it breaks you out real bad.So maybe right now you are just getting through the worst of it.

As another poster said though,I would use a face wash that's REAL gentle like Cetaphil,because the Retna-a is very irratating all by itself and really shouldnt be mixed with alot of other chemicals.

Please update and let us know how you are doing.You definitely are not alone.

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Hey! I'm sorry you're so down on yourself because of your skin. I will tell you that when I was 12 I was put on a high dose of Accutane, and despite my clear skin I regret it every day also. I was depressed, suicidal, in pain, and i still have stomach and back problems, I had migraines for years afterwards, etc. and who knows what else it's caused. I'd rather have my bad skin and my mental health.

I agree that you should stop with all your chemicals (even Retin-A) and use a gentle face wash. Spectro-Jel has been like a God to me. Stop paying some crazy lady extraordinary amounts of money to poke and prod at your already irritated face.

It appears like you have tried a whole slew of products (all at once?). Someone ahead of me suggested blue light therapy, whcih i think might be a viable option for you. I would also go for allergy testing, you never know what might be irritating your skin. But piling on 15 different and very expensive creams every day doesn't appear to be doing much.

My daily regimen involves washing my face twice a day with a gentle cleanser and using a 2% BP cream at night, and only where I have pimples, not all over my face. I really like Acnomel Adult Acne Cream also, but good god, I smell like rotten eggs for days. They make a great mask that I do only when my face is REALLY bad. My biggest challenge is not picking. I'm really bad about that and I know I need to stop. I've been really lucky that I dont seem to scar from it. I also have to be careful because I sleep on my hands, and it really irritates my chin. I'm not sure what to do about that, I try to wash my hands well before bed, but it doesn't help a whole lot.

At any rate, I totally know how you feel about Accutane, and I've been off it for over 10 years.

The other thing I find helped was when I was using an Ahava skin care regiment for oily skin. They have a really gentle gel cleanser, toner, moisturizer, and a Dead Sea mud mask. It's the only moisturizer I can use because everything else turns my face into a deep-frying vat! The mud mask is cool, cuz when it dries, you see little spots from the oil it sucks out of your skin.

My last suggestion to you is to smoke more pot. If you can get your mind off your skin for an hour or two, you will feel a zillion percent better. It's like taking a vacation from yourself. Whenever I'm down and out and stressing, I'll have a smoke with a friend and play some video games, it's like therapy but a whole lot cheaper!! Life is too good to give up on it cuz of some stupid red marks!!

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Hey! I'm new to posting but have been lurking for a while ;) I agree with those who said you're using too many things on your face and spending too much money on treatments that are just irritating your skin even more.

Stop all those facials! No more irritation! Wash with warm water and a mild cleanser (I like Purpose soap) in the morning & before bed. Use a gentle oil free moisturizer (I like cruelty free stuff - Olay tests on animals. Try Merle Norman Wrinkle Smoother or Jason natural cosmetics for a nice moisturizer). If you must, use a LITTLE bit of BP under your moisturizer once a day. Try one of the blue or blue/red acne lights.

When your skin calms down, try a mask of dissolved uncoated aspirin a few times a week to unclog pores. Let it sit for 5-10 minutes & wash off.

Don't touch your face with dirty hands & don't pick.

Good luck!!

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Hi! I'm sorry about your struggles...I really feel your pain. Your skin has definitely improved compared to a few months ago. I'm currently also using Jan Marini's products and have liked the results so far (I use the cleanser and bioclear lotion). My doctor recommended that I use her products in conjunction with Differin and clindamycin, and to layer them on top of one another, but I found that that is way too irritating for my skin so I simplified the regimen. Sometimes, more is not necessary better.

By the way, you can get those products on ebay for 1/2 of what you are paying now. I got the cleanser on ebay for less than $30 including shipping.

I really wish you the best of luck and hope your skin gets better every day!

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