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Sorry if this has already been covered...I have alot of catching up to do on post reading.

After some recent joint pain, I have been doing some research related to pH balancing diet. I notice that alot of the types of eating that many of us do should be good in this regard, but I am wondering if anyone has or is doing a pH balancing diet deliberately.

The diet would include watching your water pH (as water can be either acid or alkaline depending on source, treatment, etc), as well as watching other things. I notice that most typical modern diets are acid and that sugar is one of the highest acids and should just flat out be avoided (sound familiar?). Everybody on the web seems to suggest that we most likely all need to go more towards alkaline foods since acid foods are easy to come by, thus balancing. It is also suggested that years of acid diet and the body's NEED to maintain neutral blood essentially dumps acid waste throughout the body (not sure where...probably liver and kidneys) and it needs to be eliminated and balancing diet pursued. So step 1: detox, step 2: pH balancing diet. Green food and drinks of greens and wheatgrass (smoothies?) help with alkalinity. (I'm afraid my dark chocolate is too acid, maybe a green smoothie to wash it down? lol :think: Its about BALANCE, right?)

I am going to attempt it (not sure how I am going to approach the water issue--although, since lemon is the most alkalinizing food, I might stick to lemon water). But I'm wondering if anyone else has tried this??

I am using the following page because at the bottom it shows what is ALKALINIZING, realizing that some things such as lemon are acid going in but ultimately alkalinize the body.

Acid / Alkaline Tables

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And apple cider vinegar, which I would trust with my life (not really), is another alkalizing food that helps a lot of people with acne.

An alkalizing diet would contain produce, meat, mineral water, and not very much sugar or carbohydrate--well, that's the diet most people here are following anyway.

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And apple cider vinegar, which I would trust with my life (not really), is another alkalizing food that helps a lot of people with acne.

An alkalizing diet would contain produce, meat, mineral water, and not very much sugar or carbohydrate--well, that's the diet most people here are following anyway.

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Isn't this about alkalizing food just a theory, laid out by one doctor many years ago? A theory that's never been proven in any way? Some sort of pseudoscience?

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I actually did quite a bit of research on this. I read the book "pH Miracle" by Dr. Robert Young and went to a nutritional microscopist that studied under him for some counseling. See my post on this subject here http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...roscopist\

I have made a lot of dietary changes towards a more alkaline level. I've cut out dairy completely, cut out vinegar, changed my grains to quinoa, brown rice, wild rice or sprouted grains, added in much more raw vegetables, cut down my animal protein to one serving per day, and probably most importantly started drinking "green water" in the form of Core Greens Supplement. I've also cut my alcohol consumption down from 5 - 7 nights per week to one.

Here's another alkaline/acid chart from the nutritional microscopist I saw.

http://www.celestialartsstudios.com/page/page/5128908.htm

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HBC, I remember seeing that and at the time I thought it was kind of heavy and passed it by. Now that I read it again it makes sense...especially about the calcium and acidity. (Remember, I found this by looking up joint pain. My mom has arthritis and I'll take acne ANY day if I have to choose. But maybe this is something that can help with both.)

So its been a few weeks for you...did your doctor friend look at it and dismiss it as quackery or what? Have you seen any results? How much would you say you have been following it? I guess if you don't absolutely detox at first, the gradual detox of mere diet alteration could take a REALLY long time to show positive results. Anyway, I will keep researching. I can't commit 100% to it just yet because I think I am a little limited where I live...I don't know how to go about get alkalinizing tablets and test strips. But I can eat basically balanced to slightly alk per the charts and drink lemon water and see.

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I started to do this a while ago, but then realized that I need meat. A vegetable only meal doesn't go over well for me. I feel that you can get a net alkalizing diet with meat and vegetables and water which is what I'm doing now. Because it's more natural and less processed the net effect should be healthy which would be somewhat alkaline. When I was eating loads of grains and had my urine tested, it came back with a pH of 5.0 :doh: ; hopefully what I'm doing now will correct that.

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I started to do this a while ago, but then realized that I need meat. A vegetable only meal doesn't go over well for me. I feel that you can get a net alkalizing diet with meat and vegetables and water which is what I'm doing now. Because it's more natural and less processed the net effect should be healthy which would be somewhat alkaline. When I was eating loads of grains and had my urine tested, it came back with a pH of 5.0 :doh: ; hopefully what I'm doing now will correct that.

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I started to do this a while ago, but then realized that I need meat. A vegetable only meal doesn't go over well for me. I feel that you can get a net alkalizing diet with meat and vegetables and water which is what I'm doing now. Because it's more natural and less processed the net effect should be healthy which would be somewhat alkaline. When I was eating loads of grains and had my urine tested, it came back with a pH of 5.0 :doh: ; hopefully what I'm doing now will correct that.

What does it matter what pH your urine has? It's expelled from the body and doesn't touch anything but your bladder, so... what does it matter?

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Sie, it's funny, my two good friends, one is an M.D. and one is a chiropractor. It's my chiropractor friend who got me to see the nutritional microscopist. He is very holistic and into "good health naturally" So my M.D. friend reviewed my lab report and had real issues with it. His main issue was the appearance of fungi or bacteria shown in my blood. He says it is NOT a common occurence and its presence indicates life-threatening sepsis - not fatigue or constipation is was reported in my lab work. Also he says the report is so generalized as far as what possible causes could be and much too random. He also had great concern that the blood samples had no "reference ranges".

Anyway, there's a long list of things he had concerns with.

The point is you need to do what feels right for you. As for me, there's no way I will ever become a raw food vegan, which is basically what you have to do to achieve what they claim an "alkaline state" is. I enjoy eating meat, but can I limit my intake to once a day - of course. Yet again, I feel anybody's health can benefit by making simple, healthy alternative dietary changes. You just have to listen to your body. If you feel bloated after eating dairy or your heart races after eating a high carb meal, your body is telling you something.

On a side note, my neighbor was diagnosed with stage 4 breast cancer after having a double mastecomy. The cancer had spread throughout her bones and lymph nodes. After 6 months of doing this pH diet and reiiki healing, there is no trace of cancer in her body. Coincidence? Miracle? Direct of effect of diet?

So can your mom benefit from making some simple acid/alkaline changes? I've seen it happen.

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You know, here in Greece they seem to have an almost instinctive understanding of what foods are good (either that, or the old women who do all the cooking have not been influenced by the West yet)...anyway, when I eat according to their diet (like in the Summer) I seem to be alot healthier. But when left to fend for myself I just have a hard time putting it all together. One thing here is that meat, just pure grilled meat is ALWAYS served with half a lemon. I always squirt it over the chicken or filet or "burger". Maybe it just balances the food. You might want to try this with your meat.

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It's funny to read all these doctors/scientists different theories. This guy says NO MEAT and then Dr. perricone (acne specialist) says to make sure to eat lean meat with every meal. It's all so confusing!

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Sie, I'm of Greek heritage, as well. I put fresh lemon juice on just about everything. I actually do shots of 1/2 fresh lemon juice mixed with organic olive oil first thing in the morning as a little daily liver flush. My husband thinks I'm a freak with all the lemons.

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Sie, you asked if anyone has tried to de-acidify. I am working on that now. I definitely believe it is part of a healthy lifestyle. Even the government food pyramid (USA?) tells one to eat at least 5 servings of fruits and veges a day. Well, that would certainly alkalinize an average eater.

I once lived this way years ago. I was very healthy. I am still am, but am dealing with overweight, since i started eating more like my roommate -who loves things like meat and pizza and junkfood. I never went quite that acid route, but even overeating good food can cause weight gain. (he unfortunately has paid for his eating habits with a quadruple bypass!) Anyway, I am cleaning up my act and trying to lose weight by maintaining a balanced ph. I bought about 4-5 books on the subject and am really learning about it. Other things besides food can acidify one...like stress. It's a bit complicated and some authors disagree on their ratings of foods. So, what else is new? Always, the case...controversy.

I had an email that showed photos of various cultures and their food choices for a family for a week. The Greeks really seemed to have an excellent diet. Did anyone else see that series of photos? Very interesting cultural comparison of general eating habits.

One book i am reading is called "Alkalinize or Die". It speaks about the inability to digest weak acids in the morning(for some people). This is the first time i have heard of this distinction. Interesting though, because i always had lemon juice in the morning but it didn't seem right for me. This book explained what i'd been experiencing and sensing about it. It also explained to me why the thought of drinking apple cider vinegar makes me wince. Yuk! However, people who can digest this stuff wouldn't probably feel that way.

I balance this system with others I have worked like the glycemic index, etc.

Coachpal (newbie)

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ps. LaSwede, i read the quackery sites you submitted and they are very interesting. Would have to agree with a lot of it. Apart from the books which i spent a few bucks on, they are only "selling" eating more fruits and veges, as far as i can tell. Nothing about live cell analysis or coral calcium, etc. It is inspiring to me to read things that encourage good eating...so can't hurt. I do believe there is something correct about the acid/alkaline approach, even if they don't have the science of it down exactly correctly. There is a lot we aren't able to explain yet, but that doesn't mean it taint so. Look at all the controversy over global warming. The best disagree, yet something's definitely going on! And i'm sure some will take advantage and market things like "survival kits", etc. Some will buy them and some won't and some will create their own. I'm creating my own(diet survival kit) from all the info i can find, combined with how i feel from my own eating experience. :)

Coachpal

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http://www.acne.org/messageboard/Links-Alk...es-t187397.html

I follow the 80/20 rule. 100 % alkaline was only necessary for me when I was really sick. After I became more healthy, I started to eat meat again and 80% alkaline foods. I realized too that I love meat, and I do eat it almost every day. I do however, stay away from red meats and eat turkey and a ton of fish. I lost way too much weight eating no meat. Its not for everyone, but surly is for me when balanced with enough alkaline foods.

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Ive followed and still try to follow this myself. Its tough but I aim for 70-30 as I workout and use complex carbs and alittle more protein to help build/recover.

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