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About 2 months ago I started overdosing on Beta Carotene, Chromium, Flax Seeds, and Flax Seed Oil. How long does this crap take to leave your system? I overdosed on these things for about a month. So I stopped overdosing about a month ago. I hope that make sense. Anyways, I stopped a month ago because I developed a rash when I started overdosing on falx seeds and flax seed oil. I got bumps on my legs/arms/stomach and chest. I NEVER break out in these places. I also developed these red dots all over my legs and chest. Right now the bumps have stopped on my chest and arms. I still get a bump or two on my legs. And I still get those red dots. It's like a red spot and it leaves in about a week. What are they? Do I need to see a doctor?

OH yeah, I also overdosed on milk thistle. And the red spots are flat.

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I know. My problem is going to the doctor would be embarrassing because I would have to admit to having overdosed on all this stuff in the first place. So I was just wondering if anyone thinks this is going to stop any time soon? Maybe all the crap I overdosed on is still in my system and still leaving.

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Docs have heard everything; ER docs have heard and seen even more. Some of the stories I have heard would make you feel as if your story is simply nothing. I cannot type them here as they would violate the Board Rules, but use your imagination.

Just worry about getting yourself well, and don't worry about the potential embarrassment.

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God I wish I would've never OD'd on any of this crap. This was one of the worst decisions I have made in my life. I don't know wtf I was thinking.

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God I wish I would've never OD'd on any of this crap. This was one of the worst decisions I have made in my life. I don't know wtf I was thinking.

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Hard to OD on flax seeds. Possible, but hard. Allergy is more plausible.

Fairly easy to OD on Chromium though. Can cause kidney failure. And I've yet to see a doctor advise chromium supplements. The bodies need for it is small and not hard to get from food. You don't even see it in those horse pill multivitamins you see these days. You may want to stay off it.

Megadosing as so many self-proclaimed doctors on this site advise is very poor advice. When supplements are tested for safety, they are typically only tested in long term at or just above the recommended dosage (only very common vitamins have the extreme tests that would be necessary to establish safety in the methods prescribed here). These are not safe things. They can not be treated like food. There are vastly complex chemical compounds in some of them which no one knows what impact they have on the body. Most have only existed in anywhere close to the concentrations available now for a handful of years. Because one dose is safe you should not assume that five doses are safe.

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Its a reaction from the milk thistle. Not the other things.

The EXACT same thing happened to me. Milk thistle is powerful, and it can detox your liver way beyond what your body is capable of.

What you have is most likely a mild form of guttate psoriasis, which is basically a skin disorder where your immune system goes nuts and makes your skin shed its layers too quickly, and it builds up on the surface in red patches and scales or sometimes little bumps that spread out slowly.

It may not be the exact same rash I got, but I can almost guarantee based on what you said that this is from the milk thistle. In the holistic community a lot of people feel milk thistle should never be used until you have flushed your liver clean. I wont even attempt to take it until Im no longer getting stones from flushes, because whenever I take it now it makes me feel terrible.

I would stop the milk thistle and continue with the flax.

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"it can detox your liver way beyond what your body is capable of."

So it makes you sick because you JUST AREN'T READY FOR ITS AWESOME HEALING POWER!

NEW OXYCLEAN WITH AWESOME WHITENING POWER! IF YOU AREN'T SO TOTALLY READY FOR THE WHITENESS IT WILL MAKE YOU ITS BITCH BY MAKING YOUR STAINS EVEN WORSE!

ARE YOU READY FOR THE POWER!!!!!!??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU BETTER BE! BECAUSE IF YOU AREN'T NOT ONLY WILL IT NOT WHITEN; IT WILL INFECT YOUR CLOTHES WITH AIDS AND MAKE YOUR HAIR FALL OUT! IT IS THAT DAMN GOOD AT WHITENING!

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"it can detox your liver way beyond what your body is capable of."

So it makes you sick because you JUST AREN'T READY FOR ITS AWESOME HEALING POWER!

NEW OXYCLEAN WITH AWESOME WHITENING POWER! IF YOU AREN'T SO TOTALLY READY FOR THE WHITENESS IT WILL MAKE YOU ITS BITCH BY MAKING YOUR STAINS EVEN WORSE!

ARE YOU READY FOR THE POWER!!!!!!??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU BETTER BE! BECAUSE IF YOU AREN'T NOT ONLY WILL IT NOT WHITEN; IT WILL INFECT YOUR CLOTHES WITH AIDS AND MAKE YOUR HAIR FALL OUT! IT IS THAT DAMN GOOD AT WHITENING!

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Toxins are one of the jokes of holistic medicine. They're the new evil spirits. It's a re-emergence of ignorance among the faithful despite it being unnecessary. It's a case where people who want to pretend to be experts despite having no expertise can grossly oversimplify and misrepresent something to allow them to do so. And then what? Turns out it wasn't toxins, you just had pancreatic cancer? No problem, since everything is either caused by or an effect of toxins, they were still right all along.

Person A: My hair is falling out.

Doctor: Yes, you have radiation sickness. That will happen.

Person A: I think it's toxins.

Doctor: No, really. It's radiation sickness. See, here. (Points to a test confirming radiation poisoning).

Person A: (Later on forums) Oh my god! My doctor is so stupid! He won't even treat my toxins! And my skin just erupted into open sores and my ears fell off! Why won't he treat my toxins! I'll bet it's because he doesn't make any money prescribing the apple juice that will cure me. If only I were good enough for the apple juice to find me worthy of healing.

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Wow.

Overview

Milk thistle ( Silybum marianum ) has been used since Greco-Roman times as an herbal remedy for a variety of ailments, particularly liver problems. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries physicians in the United States used milk thistle seeds to relieve congestion of the liver, spleen, and kidneys. Today, several scientific studies suggest that active substances in milk thistle (particularly silymarin) protect the liver from damage caused by viruses, toxins, alcohol, and certain drugs such as acetaminophen (a common over the counter medication used for headaches and pain; acetaminophen, also called paracetamol, can cause liver damage if taken in large quantities or by people who drink alcohol regularly.)

Many professional herbalists recommend milk thistle extract for the prevention and/or treatment of various liver disorders including viral hepatitis, fatty liver associated with long term alcohol use, and liver damage from drugs and industrial toxins such as carbon tetrachloride.

Mushroom Poisoning Milk thistle has also been used as a preventive and/or antidote to poisoning by deathcap mushroom (Amanita phalloides). Animal studies have found that milk thistle extract completely counteracts the toxic effects of the mushroom when given within 10 minutes of ingestion. If given within 24 hours of ingestion, the herb significantly reduces the risk of liver damage and death.

Liver disease from alcohol A comprehensive review by the U.S. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality (AHRQ) recently identified 16 scientific studies on the use of milk thistle for the treatment of various forms of liver disease. A European standardized extract of milk thistle was used in most of the trials.

Problems in study design (such as small numbers of participants, variations in the causes of liver disease, and differences in dosing and duration of milk thistle therapy) made it difficult to draw any definitive conclusions. However, five of seven studies evaluating milk thistle for alcoholic liver disease found significant improvements in liver function. Those with the mildest form of the disease appeared to improve the most. Milk thistle was less effective for those with severe liver disease such as cirrhosis. Cirrhosis is characterized by scarring and permanent, non-reversible damage to the liver. It is often referred to as end-stage liver disease.

source: http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/milk-thistle-000266.htm

Naysayers should read more. Both my uncle and my father are on prescription milk thistle. What's that?! Real medicine, from plants?! Pfft. :rolleyes:

And yeah - allergic reaction causes odd bumps and discoloration.

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Toxins are one of the jokes of holistic medicine. They're the new evil spirits. It's a re-emergence of ignorance among the faithful despite it being unnecessary. It's a case where people who want to pretend to be experts despite having no expertise can grossly oversimplify and misrepresent something to allow them to do so. And then what? Turns out it wasn't toxins, you just had pancreatic cancer? No problem, since everything is either caused by or an effect of toxins, they were still right all along.

Person A: My hair is falling out.

Doctor: Yes, you have radiation sickness. That will happen.

Person A: I think it's toxins.

Doctor: No, really. It's radiation sickness. See, here. (Points to a test confirming radiation poisoning).

Person A: (Later on forums) Oh my god! My doctor is so stupid! He won't even treat my toxins! And my skin just erupted into open sores and my ears fell off! Why won't he treat my toxins! I'll bet it's because he doesn't make any money prescribing the apple juice that will cure me. If only I were good enough for the apple juice to find me worthy of healing.

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Wow.

Overview

Milk thistle ( Silybum marianum ) has been used since Greco-Roman times as an herbal remedy for a variety of ailments, particularly liver problems. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries physicians in the United States used milk thistle seeds to relieve congestion of the liver, spleen, and kidneys. Today, several scientific studies suggest that active substances in milk thistle (particularly silymarin) protect the liver from damage caused by viruses, toxins, alcohol, and certain drugs such as acetaminophen (a common over the counter medication used for headaches and pain; acetaminophen, also called paracetamol, can cause liver damage if taken in large quantities or by people who drink alcohol regularly.)

Many professional herbalists recommend milk thistle extract for the prevention and/or treatment of various liver disorders including viral hepatitis, fatty liver associated with long term alcohol use, and liver damage from drugs and industrial toxins such as carbon tetrachloride.

Mushroom Poisoning Milk thistle has also been used as a preventive and/or antidote to poisoning by deathcap mushroom (Amanita phalloides). Animal studies have found that milk thistle extract completely counteracts the toxic effects of the mushroom when given within 10 minutes of ingestion. If given within 24 hours of ingestion, the herb significantly reduces the risk of liver damage and death.

Liver disease from alcohol A comprehensive review by the U.S. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality (AHRQ) recently identified 16 scientific studies on the use of milk thistle for the treatment of various forms of liver disease. A European standardized extract of milk thistle was used in most of the trials.

Problems in study design (such as small numbers of participants, variations in the causes of liver disease, and differences in dosing and duration of milk thistle therapy) made it difficult to draw any definitive conclusions. However, five of seven studies evaluating milk thistle for alcoholic liver disease found significant improvements in liver function. Those with the mildest form of the disease appeared to improve the most. Milk thistle was less effective for those with severe liver disease such as cirrhosis. Cirrhosis is characterized by scarring and permanent, non-reversible damage to the liver. It is often referred to as end-stage liver disease.

source: http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/milk-thistle-000266.htm

Naysayers should read more. Both my uncle and my father are on prescription milk thistle. What's that?! Real medicine, from plants?! Pfft. :rolleyes:

And yeah - allergic reaction causes odd bumps and discoloration.

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Ok well, like I said.. I'm not taking any of that anymore. I've been off milk thistle for a month. How long does it take to leave your sytem?

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Ok well, like I said.. I'm not taking any of that anymore. I've been off milk thistle for a month. How long does it take to leave your sytem?

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