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Dont get me wrong, its a lovely thought, that theres some good-natured bearded man in sandals floating about, righting wrongs and whatnot, but thats all it is in my opinion. A lovely thought. Gods a source of hope and, like in your case, a source of blame. Have you actually had an angel visit you saying "You watch too much porn my heathen friend, so i am hereby inflicting acne upon your tainted soul, and you are to be plagued by a horde of incurable scars, let that be a small repentance for your sins, devilspawn"??

God has deprived me of having a social life.

Whats more likely is that feeling down about your skin has deprived you from a social life. But i'm sure every single person on this site has felt that way at least once. My point is, youre not alone and alot of us can empathize. But secluding yourself does nothing, youre missing out on life and that i find much more worthy of pity than acne scars.

God has deprived me of reaching my potential (I wanted to be a professional, but it seems when all you concern yourself about is your skin, your grades slip)

Youre in your early twenties, you could go back to college or whereever next week if you really wanted to. Dont let these scars dictate your life for you!!

God has deprived me of doing those 'things' (clubbing - never , holding hands with a girl - never, sex? - haha you must be joking)

Oh please. if you went clubbing, youd see imperfections and image hang-ups you seem to think only affect you, are in fact affecting almost everyone. And relationships are not formed on the basis of both people having clear skin!! Acne or scars havent stopped you from dating or sex, your own self-criticisms are far more likely to be the issue. Accept that youre not perfect, but neither is anyone. You can make do with what youve got in life or you can watch your life drift by uneventfully.

Im sorry if this seems an apathetic post, im not deliberately trying to be harsh, but though a imperfect complexion can suck alot of the time, it isnt the be all and end all.

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hatethyself are you 19 or 21? you said 19 in your first post and 21 later.

Anyway, im 21, and almost 22. I am in the same situation as you in many ways. Im sort of keeping acne under moderate control, but it never goes away. In fact im making it seem better than it sounds because i have red marks scattered almost all over my face and in the worst and most visible places.

Ive sort of grown to accept that, but what i cannot accept is never once having any type of intimacy. Every day i tell myself i cannot live another second without spending a night alone with a girl, cuddling with her, laughing with her, having sex with her, etc etc. I ask myself why the fuck am i even living? Life is just - wake up, work, go to sleep esentially; and every fucking day.

I keep going back and forth with god, i tell myself all the time he does not and cannot exist for all the bullshit i see in the world and for denying me of the only thing i really need in my life(love) (nevermind the acne he has for soem reason decided to give me), and then sometimes i say - what do i have to lose by believing in god? You have everything to gain and nothing to lose.. although praying for help and strength for the last few years has done shit anyway(i realize god wouldnt be able to just give you what you want and you have to work for them, but how about a chance to work for it?)

Anyway, i understand your situation, and its funny because im sure you as I would forgive and forget everything(all the shit that was never deserved for being a good person, etc)if we had the simple things we need.

anyway, gl

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God does not dictate your life. You control your own life through the choices you make. If you want to be miserable and sit around the house, then sit around the house and make no effort to be with anyone. If you want to find love, start talking to women and you will eventually find someone.

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I understand getting angry at God. Sometimes I get bitter, really really bitter about my life and ask "Why me, God? What did I do?" But I understand that is only my frustration and not nesscarilly any reflection on how the cosmic scales, if they exist, are actually working.

It's normal to get bitter. It's normal to feel resentful and angry and confused. What's not normal is allowing those feelings to get in the way of living. God or not, it is still your life to live.

Give yourself permission to feel your feelings - you're going to feel those anyways - but also give yourself permission to live your life.

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Yes yes people, we all just popped up out of nowhere. There is no creator. There is no higher being.

Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

God is real. Please get real.

We didnt pop out of nowhere, we evolved.

I believe something created matter, or began time, THAT is something that doesnt sound like it can pop out of nowhere. I dont think there is a god that overlooks earth, but there is one that created the matter we are made of, and began time.

Funny thing is, i still pray to whatever the hell god may or may not be, like i said - you have nothing to lose.

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Yes yes people, we all just popped up out of nowhere. There is no creator. There is no higher being.

Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

God is real. Please get real.

We didnt pop out of nowhere, we evolved.

I believe something created matter, or began time, THAT is something that doesnt sound like it can pop out of nowhere. I dont think there is a god that overlooks earth, but there is one that created the matter we are made of, and began time.

Funny thing is, i still pray to whatever the hell god may or may not be, like i said - you have nothing to lose.

you can't just pray for stuff. you got to do other things (i'm not religious so i don't know them..)- like really believe in God, do what he says, whatever. you can't just be like "God give me clear skin please or God give me money."

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i dont think you guys should be coming down on him. he has every right to feel the way he feels. i was very much into the church at one time and i would pray and pray and pray about my skin and seems like the more i prayed the worse my skin would get. acne has ruined my entire adult life. its not easy to just pretend like it doesnt exist. even if he went out and got a g/f, had sex, and all that stuff-he still wouldnt be happy inside. he still would be sad whenever he looked in the mirror at his scars. theres all this talk in the bible about ask and ye shall receive,god will grant you the desires of your heart, just have faith and believe and it will come to pass and blah blah blah. so to say that god would have better things to worry about is not fair. god says we are all his children. what parent would have more important things to worry about than their children? the bible states that god can do anything-surely that includes healing people of acne. im at the point now where i have stopped going to church,praying, reading my bible, i dont even listen to gospel music anymore because all the lyrics in the song say how great god is and i always think if hes so great why did he let all these terrible things happen to me(including acne).

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Yes yes people, we all just popped up out of nowhere. There is no creator. There is no higher being.

Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

God is real. Please get real.

Your internetZ fails at life.

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Yes yes people, we all just popped up out of nowhere. There is no creator. There is no higher being.

Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

God is real. Please get real.

You believe that a god that didn't do anything to stop 6 million Jews from being massacred cares about you?

Please get real.

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Yes yes people, we all just popped up out of nowhere. There is no creator. There is no higher being.

Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

God is real. Please get real.

You believe that a god that didn't do anything to stop 6 million Jews from being massacred cares about you?

Please get real.

Free will. The Bible clearly states people are given free will.

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free will is bullshit :/

These things are too convient, region is in a win/win situation all the time.

If you pray for something and by chance it happens then it was god/ if not then god knows whats best for you thats why he didn't help.

If you crossed the road without looking n almost got run over then you say it was god that helped you/ If you get ran over, then god gave you the free will to cross without looking and its your fault.

If you pray n feel something( although its probably just a sub-conscious self induced feeling) then it was god/ If not then your not praying hard enough.

Religions have it all covered, they have 100% NO Proof but you can't put up a valid argument against them + who the hell knows that god gave us free will???

Did god tell someone that he gave us free will?

Another thing, there are tons of religions and they all say that theirs is the right one, now unless there are tons of gods then only one is right and the rest are all fake, who's is right??

its all too fishy if you ask me, all too ideal :/

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Religions were created by HUMANS. They started as a means to come closer to God, Allah Mother Goddess or whatever you want to call Him/Her. And because they were created and maintained by humans they eventually deteriorated. They became another means of acquiring more power and more money. The original scripts were erased and re-written hundreds of times to suit the power-hungry or close-minded high priests.

I was an atheist for many years but I eventually came to believe in the idea of a Supreme Being and other levels of existence because I managed to clear my head from the bull**it many religions are constantly feeding us. So, I do not really belong to a religion anymore. However, I am still spiritual! Badly-formed religions do not necessarily exclude the existence of a higher being.

The fact that we only have five senses and cannot see anything else is a way of preventing us from being overwhelmed. Imagine what would happen if you could see all the radio and electromagnetic waves from the mobile phones, computers, TV sets, CD players etc around you or the cosmic rays from the universe! We are being bombarded by it all the time, even right at this moment, but we can't tell, can we? If we could, we wouldn't be able to see the face of the person sitting next to us.

Also, take a look at quantum physics; its theories would look like science fiction to an average person. For example, one of the latest theories is that a particle can exist at different places at the same time. Science fiction? Who knows?

All I'm saying is that we can't rely on our ears and eyes or our brains (of which we use only a small percentage by the way, while Einstein used just a tiny bit more).

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Religions were created by HUMANS. They started as a means to come closer to God, Allah Mother Goddess or whatever you want to call Him/Her. And because they were created and maintained by humans they eventually deteriorated. They became another means of acquiring more power and more money. The original scripts were erased and re-written hundreds of times to suit the power-hungry or close-minded high priests.

I was an atheist for many years but I eventually came to believe in the idea of a Supreme Being and other levels of existence because I managed to clear my head from the bull**it many religions are constantly feeding us. So, I do not really belong to a religion anymore. However, I am still spiritual! Badly-formed religions do not necessarily exclude the existence of a higher being.

The fact that we only have five senses and cannot see anything else is a way of preventing us from being overwhelmed. Imagine what would happen if you could see all the radio and electromagnetic waves from the mobile phones, computers, TV sets, CD players etc around you or the cosmic rays from the universe! We are being bombarded by it all the time, even right at this moment, but we can't tell, can we? If we could, we wouldn't be able to see the face of the person sitting next to us.

Also, take a look at quantum physics; its theories would look like science fiction to an average person. For example, one of the latest theories is that a particle can exist at different places at the same time. Science fiction? Who knows?

All I'm saying is that we can't rely on our ears and eyes or our brains (of which we use only a small percentage by the way, while Einstein used just a tiny bit more).

Couldn't just quote one bit of this - it's all so good. My sentiment exactly. :dance: I have very little respect for those who believe blindly in what they're spoon-fed when it comes to religion, those who don't question any of it. The fact is, we don't understand why we're here and probably never will. We're just dumb little brainless ants when you consider the unbelievable amount of things we don't understand as humans.

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Hmmmm

Dont get me wrong, its a lovely thought, that theres some good-natured bearded man in sandals floating about, righting wrongs and whatnot, but thats all it is in my opinion. A lovely thought. Gods a source of hope and, like in your case, a source of blame. Have you actually had an angel visit you saying "You watch too much porn my heathen friend, so i am hereby inflicting acne upon your tainted soul, and you are to be plagued by a horde of incurable scars, let that be a small repentance for your sins, devilspawn"??

Not quite, I would not call him a good natured bearded man. In fact most dipictions of god have painted him as a wrathful and hateful entity, cursing those who do not follow his every rule, in fact if god were like me or you I think he would be considered a deeply psychopathic individual , the type of person you would be told to quietly move away from as they foam at the mouth. And yes, Maybe an angel of death did visit that faiteful day I first jacked off to the 5 min freeview of television x but I was too excited to notice it. Still it would not be justification for all the 'lets just be friends' remarks off women who dont really want to be my friend but are too nice to say 'fuck off' all thanks to my skin (for the past decade).

Whats more likely is that feeling down about your skin has deprived you from a social life. But i'm sure every single person on this site has felt that way at least once. My point is, youre not alone and alot of us can empathize. But secluding yourself does nothing, youre missing out on life and that i find much more worthy of pity than acne scars.

I understand there are other people going through the same things as me and I can relate to them, I also understand there are worse situations, just search acid attack in google to find out what Im talking about. However, when talking about the Acne experience( I use the word 'Acne experience' as a handle, it is all encompassing of the pimples, the red marks, the scars) I have found that no matter how confident I act in front of women, I am always rejected. We have have to take into account the fact I am a loner, not by choice, but by the fact that there is fuck all to do in the place I live. I dissagree with most aspects of british binge culture society (but lets not get into this) How I wish there was just a woman who would be satisfied with eating out at resturants, going to the movies, or picnics etc. This mentality coupled with the acne scars means I am screwed.

Youre in your early twenties, you could go back to college or whereever next week if you really wanted to. Dont let these scars dictate your life for you!!

I cannot go back to university, I have not got the money, thanks to labour and their tuition fees bullshit I am already in debt, and I need to work , which leaves no time for educational self improvement. You just get up, go to work, come home, every fucking day.

Oh please. if you went clubbing, youd see imperfections and image hang-ups you seem to think only affect you, are in fact affecting almost everyone. And relationships are not formed on the basis of both people having clear skin!! Acne or scars havent stopped you from dating or sex, your own self-criticisms are far more likely to be the issue. Accept that youre not perfect, but neither is anyone. You can make do with what youve got in life or you can watch your life drift by uneventfully.

I understand this, it is drifting by, but its drifting by far too slow, I wish there was a way of hurrying it up, with the help of a bridge maybe?

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hatethyself are you 19 or 21? you said 19 in your first post and 21 later.

Anyway, im 21, and almost 22. I am in the same situation as you in many ways. Im sort of keeping acne under moderate control, but it never goes away. In fact im making it seem better than it sounds because i have red marks scattered almost all over my face and in the worst and most visible places.

I keep going back and forth with god, i tell myself all the time he does not and cannot exist for all the bullshit i see in the world and for denying me of the only thing i really need in my life(love) (nevermind the acne he has for soem reason decided to give me), and then sometimes i say - what do i have to lose by believing in god? You have everything to gain and nothing to lose.. although praying for help and strength for the last few years has done shit anyway(i realize god wouldnt be able to just give you what you want and you have to work for them, but how about a chance to work for it?)

Anyway, i understand your situation, and its funny because im sure you as I would forgive and forget everything(all the shit that was never deserved for being a good person, etc)if we had the simple things we need.

anyway, gl

I am 21 now, the age I was told that I would be clear by my parents and that I would have all the women drooling over me. Yeah right. I maybe relatively clear in terms of pimples, but new problems pop up out of nowhere.

Ive sort of grown to accept that, but what i cannot accept is never once having any type of intimacy. Every day i tell myself i cannot live another second without spending a night alone with a girl, cuddling with her, laughing with her, having sex with her, etc etc. I ask myself why the fuck am i even living? Life is just - wake up, work, go to sleep esentially; and every fucking day.

Yeah I feel the same, the only problem is that so many years of rejection from women have harmed my ability to 'handle' women. I know that women like confident men. Men who keep them entertained. I know that looks arent everything, but it does not detract from the mental conditioning that has been sewn in my mind regarding my own self perception: Ie I am hideous. Some times when women do talk to me, I try to avoid them (sounds messed up right?) I have this fear that they are looking how ugly I am and are taking note.

I dont even want a woman for sex, infact this does not enter my thought pattern at all, I just want companionship, someone to go to the resturant with, someone to remind me that I am a human. I sometimes forget that I am a human, the lack of affirmation kind of makes me feel like I do not belong in humanity, I need a woman to reaffirm that I am part of her species (sounds messed up)

This is what acne does to you folks , and they still call it a 'mild teenage problem' :wall:

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I dont even want a woman for sex, infact this does not enter my thought pattern at all, I just want companionship, someone to go to the resturant with, someone to remind me that I am a human. I sometimes forget that I am a human, the lack of affirmation kind of makes me feel like I do not belong in humanity, I need a woman to reaffirm that I am part of her species (sounds messed up)

I would feel more like a human if i had those things too, but nobody could deny to me at least that making me feel most human is having a sexual relationship too. Why? Humans are sexual creatures, it should not be denied from anyone. Much of my happiness and pleasure in life would be simply giving myself to a women, i want her to be happy with me as her "mate". Sounds stupid? It shouldnt. Everyone knows deep down that that would make them much more happy if they had it. Thats not to say spending quality time together means nothing, because that means alot too.

anyway, writing that crap just made me feel bad because i dont have any of it. I hate facing reality sometimes. The question is still again - blame it on our faces or on who we are?

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The question is still again - blame it on our faces or on who we are?

You got to take risks. Don't give up. Make an effort.

example:

powerlifters don't get strong by wishing to be strong. they bust their ass in the gym. they push their bodies to the limit.

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Take it EASY people GOD this GOD that i'm a true believer of Jesus Christ.

It's just acne i had it too there are people out there that are handycap, or have cancer more serious challenges.

And you guy's want to jump of a birdge because you got Bad acne i've been rejected by girls i know it sucks but you have to deal with it.

It's not us with acne that have a problem it's SOCIETY, Movies, Magazines, hollywood they expect you to look a certain way you know what you say that Kiss my F****N ass!!

Jesus is ASKING me to tell you guy's BLESS YOU my CHILDREN!!!

PEACE OUT BOYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!!! :dance:

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I cant keep this to myself any longer, I think that god has something against me, maybe he has a beef against me cause I watched porn when I was younger, or maybe he wants to test me? whatever.

It just seems like one thing after the other, after 9 years of hell with moderate to severe acne , you would think god would have the common decency to give me a break you know, give me a chance to engage in those things everyone else my age has done, but no god had other plans.

So after the bullshit acne, there I was getting ready to go party, get friends, get a girlfriend? (gasp) when boom, god slams another piece of shit on my face, ie red marks. Poor, friendless, 19 years old and with a face full of red marks, that aint gonna win any girls over. So I went about solving this next piece of shit god gave me, I tried all of the stuff there was on the internet, from aloe vera, to sudocrem etc, but alas, I was to find out all of it was in vain.

So I waited, and waited and waited, until finally the red marks showed signs of fading, whoopee I thought, maybe, just maybe , god will finally allow me to have a normal life again right? free from the anxiety of people's eyes gliding accross my face when I talk to them (man I hate that)

WRONG, god , as always, had other plans. The next piece of shit to contend with? SCARS , I have to admit god, your one clever coniving motherfucker, I didnt see that one coming. Here I was with accutane, thinking I would rule the world, when in fact ACCUPOISON was nothing but another curse from god, which never listed the side effect commonly known as SEVERE SCARRING. SO after putting up with the bullshit of acne and its associates for all those years, now it has to leave its 'calling card' the scars(with the help of that skin thinning poison tane), and host of whole new insecurities.

No longer would I feel safe in artificial light, no longer would I blame acne when kids stare and point at my face remarking how old and scary I look. NO , the new kid on the block is in town, and it means business.

I can already feel the anger and hopelessness building up inside of me everytime I look in the mirror and see my skin, I can already feel the anger and hopelessness when nobody is willing to be my friend either at work or in the larger world in general thanks to my skin looking like the surface of the moon. I can already feel the anger and hopelessness at the fact that most acne scar treatments will not work for me, either they are too expensive and dont work (pixel) or they are not for people with brown skin tones (tca)

When I die (may the day come sooner), Im going to promptly clench my fist and punch god in the jaw, just because I should.

God has deprived me of having a social life.

God has deprived me of having a girlfriend ( I have been flat out rejected numerous times)

God has deprived me of reaching my potential (I wanted to be a professional, but it seems when all you concern yourself about is your skin, your grades slip)

God has deprived me of doing those 'things' (clubbing - never , holding hands with a girl - never, sex? - haha you must be joking)

:evil:

wow stop blaming something that has NO control over your life dude

is ur fault u let ur skin get i n the way of what ever it is you want to do

is no ones fault but ur self so get over it and get back on track to the life u want to lead how ever long and hard it may take now that u derailed ur saelf so far off track

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Take it EASY people GOD this GOD that i'm a true believer of Jesus Christ.

It's just acne i had it too there are people out there that are handycap, or have cancer more serious challenges.

And you guy's want to jump of a birdge because you got Bad acne i've been rejected by girls i know it sucks but you have to deal with it.

It's not us with acne that have a problem it's SOCIETY, Movies, Magazines, hollywood they expect you to look a certain way you know what you say that Kiss my F****N ass!!

Jesus is ASKING me to tell you guy's BLESS YOU my CHILDREN!!!

PEACE OUT BOYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!!! :dance:

The point is: Jesus loves us but he leaves us suffer so much!

Not only the acne sufferers, but the cancer ppl, ppl with a handicap, ect...

I sense a contradiction here :rolleyes:

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What about people who were born blind?deaf?can't walk?etc... Having acne is real painful but we have to fucking live with it.

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We are a little bubble in another bigger bubble and god is watching his ant farm grow he doesn't take notice of one particular ant he just see's his collection.

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I myself do not believe in god.

I was forced to be catholic from the age 12-16, until I decided, there is no god, maybe acne did change the way I think, but I believe we are all gods and we can change our own lives, for better or worse.

I do respect peoples opinions, just like my mom who prays and goes to church every sunday.

But this is a free society where we can believe in who and what we want, NO ONE, and i mean NO ONE will tell me what to believe in or if im wrong.

but then again there are those who try to force you into their beliefs, especially at a young age where you cant do shit about.

anywho, I do blame the world for my memories with acne, if i hear a comment about my acne, my first response is F the world. I also know there are alot of people who are more scarred than me.

maybe its like tupac said, "we maybe in hell already, and our dumb asses not knowing"

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