junkeroos 0 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Why must you buy from Evolution-X or Vitacure, they are very expensive? This is just B5 capsules, they shouldn't cost that much and they should all be the same. If you must take B5, try getting them at Vitacost.com. They sell Twinlab and NSI B5 products at less than half the cost plus only $4.95 shipping. Also, take into consideration about the fact that the effect of vitamins and other acne supplements diminish or lose it altogether if you take it continuously for a long period of time because your body develops a tolerance to it. You will have to cycle your current treatment with a different treatment and swap them regularly. According to what I've read, you can undergo treatment for about 3-4 weeks before the product stops working and one should take at least a 7 day rest or more before continuing with your favorite regimen.On another note, I have read that Zinc is actually pretty good in treating acne as well and I have read this from other sites too. In fact, Vitacure sells Zinc vitamins for acne treatment besides B5. BTW, if B5 doesn't work, there are other herbal/natural ways which you can find here Approved Cures Comparison. They actually ranked ZENMED's DermaCleanse the best natural treatment for Acne followed closely by DermaPure and then Refresh. However, they just reviewed a new one called AcnEase which they gave 5/5 score and a high recommendation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dove 1 Share Posted August 11, 2004 After reading a number of posts about how B5 works for awhile and then seems to "quit working" for a lot of people, I would like to hear if there are people out there who have used it for longer periods of time (ex. over a year or more) without it losing its effectiveness. It seems like, from what I've read, it works for some people initially, and not for others (like most acne treatments -- idiosyncratic) -- and also, that for some people it starts to fail after awhile. I was sure hoping this at least had the POTENTIAL for long-term improvement. Of those of you taking it, are many finding that it works over the long haul (years?)??? Would love to hear one way or the other (if you would, post in this forum) Thanks so much . . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
junkeroos 0 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Exactly my point. How does one know that the great effect of B5 on them was just a PLACEBO effect? I think the fact that it stops working (based on some of the posts here) is partly because of this reason and partly from the fact that our bodies tend to develop a tolerance (it's trying to balance or counter-balance the effect of the unusual amount of B5 one is taking). If it did work for you for the first time then you should stop taking it for even a month to keep your system from adjusting to the megadose. According to this site http://www.natural-acne-treatments.com/b5-acne.html B5 megadosing does not work and could even be dangerous but if you must take it, only take a maximum of 1-1/2 grams a day and take Pantethine instead of Pantothenic Acid because it is a more active stable form that can readily absorbed by your body.iherb.comEmerson EcologicsPantethine (450-500mg) is cheapest at Vitacost and if you know where to look, you can get a 5% discount:Vitacost.comHowever, it costs a little too much than Pantothenic Acid. I ended up getting the one by NSI. Twinlab is a good brand too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dove 1 Share Posted August 13, 2004 Thank you, Junkeroos, for the information . . . I am feeling like this much improvement this fast can't just be the "placebo effect," but who knows? Maybe it is; a little time will tell. In the meantime, I did happen to have a dermatologist appt. a couple days ago, and told her about the B5 dosing, because I wanted to know if she had heard of, or knew, anything about it. She had not heard of it, but at the same time, she did say that she didn't see a problem with higher-dosing because one's body would just excrete any excess (kind of like Vitamin C). Like all opinions, one can find someone of equal education who might say just the opposite. I think that is part of what makes so hard to figure out what the best approach might be. (I guess what works and doesn't destroy your health in the process!!!) Junkeroos, have you tried the B5? Anyone else out there? What is/was your experience, and are you still on it?(And is it still working?)This is a great site. I am learning a lot, and it is all helpful. Thank you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bostonian 0 Share Posted August 16, 2004 I have been happy with my B5 treatment (about 6 months now). I'm just wondering for those of it who have been on it for over a year if they experienced any new side effects other than:Dry LipsStomach GrowlingThe main reason I ask is that I did just have a real bad stomach ache (which I never get) with shooting pains and was wondering if it may be related. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
junkeroos 0 Share Posted August 18, 2004 I'm curious, has anyone used the products at Acnemiracle.com? They combined both Pantothenic acid and Pantethine in a drink mix. I'm not a fan of drinks, if they were capsules I'd take it. Their prices are very reasonable though.B5 SeriesThey seem to have quality products.Their Toner and AcniCure topical treatment contains 5% Niacinamide which is more than the required 4%. Niacinamide has been proven to treat acne.AcniCureClinical study of topical Vitamin B3 (Nicotinamide/Niacinamide)Topical B3 is available as Metazene (5%) or Papulex (4%). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grogula 0 Share Posted August 22, 2004 Hi guys, I'm from the Uk and been using B5 for about 5 months now. First two months i built up from 5mg to te high dose of 10mg. i saw no improvement at all in these two months, when i went up to 10mg i first had a huge severe outbreak when my whole face was covered (and i mean my whole face, over nose under eyes, nostrils infected, chin jaw line and cheeks looked like red scabby puss filled dried up spots with black heads). It claimed down, still further outbreaks come along on cheeks and chin then second month when it was calming down further it broke out again in severe fashion.....went to see derm he was shocked and very worried!!!! though didnt think it was anything to do with b5 as i had already bin on it three months...only once experienced a bit of diarreahoea, no side effects for me.So im still on them, as well as my prescriptions, but honestly b5 isnt really working for me, not sure why i persist using it, waste of money....guess im just scared its gunna break out all serious again....hmmmmmm maybe ive my body has become immune to the dose of B5 now.Also by my own understanding B5 is meant to reduce oil production, now if your acne is not related to oil production, i.e. you have resistant acne bacteria on your face...i logically think the bacteria is the problem not the oil. so i think my acne is directly caused by bacteria rather than increased oil production. Just my opinion anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shug 0 Share Posted August 28, 2004 new to the board.. but thought i would add my 2 cents.. i started taking b5 about a year ago.. at first noticed slight improvement.. first on 20mg then dropped to 10mg.. often my skin feels hot after taking it (flushing) even tho this was very uncomfortable.. i decided it was worth it if the results could last.. lately.. my skin has got pretty bad and the b5 doesnt seem to be having any effect.. plus the flushing seems to happen more often..so as of today i have discontinued use of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xciteurmom 0 Share Posted August 28, 2004 Ok I have a couple questions, hoping someone can help me out.1. I'm currently taking 500mg tetracycline, and am also doing Dan's regimen. Will I be ok using b5 too?2. I purchased some b5 here:http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/browse/sku_de...pe=SearchResultBut also read some junk about taking some B-complex as well? Can someone link me to where I can buy some? Is it absolutely neccessary to take it too or will I see results with just the b5?3. I know how much b5 to take, but how much b-complex should I take/buy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
junkeroos 0 Share Posted August 28, 2004 The link below will tell you all there is to know about B5:B5 for Acne FAQBasically, you'll need the following supplements when megadosing with B5 (10g):B-100 complex (taken once a day)Biotin (4mg/day) - unless it's already included in the B-100 complexOptiZinc (30mg-100mg/day) - unless you are taking AcneMiracle or Evolution-Xothers:L-Cystine vs. L-Cysteine:http://www.moondragon.org/health/nutrition...ds/cystine.htmlWhat you should do is instead take:NAC a.k.a. N-acetyl cysteine (500mg-1.5g/day)L-Methionine (500mg)Some say to just supplement with Brewer's Yeast (Twinlabs or Solgar) with the B5 but I looked at the contents and you'll have to take a lot per serving in order to get to the same amount of dosage provided above. Maybe you can take is a multi-vitamin supplement instead since it has other ingredients beneficial to your body. So there, that's your regimen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
edaley 0 Share Posted August 29, 2004 Is it bad to take evolution x B5 with a mens one-a-day vitamin? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Solaufein 0 Share Posted September 1, 2004 why do you need all those other supplements? I take B-100 Complex and 2000mcg biotic a day is that enough?what do the other supplementations do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
junkeroos 0 Share Posted September 2, 2004 why do you need all those other supplements? I take B-100 Complex and 2000mcg biotic a day is that enough?what do the other supplementations do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pooratbest 5 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Well i have been doin B5 now for excatly 1 month, I have seen no improvement at all I have little over 10 days supply left (@ 20g a day) so unless it kicks in soon thats it for me i guess. I feel really dissapointed, is there any chance it might still kick in after a month? Do you think its worth carrying on? I look around this site and people claim results in periods of only 2 days etc or a couple of weeks. My skin is very oily and it has been for several years now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
edaley 0 Share Posted September 8, 2004 AHH did any one else break out REALLY bad after being on B5 for 5 days?! This is the worse my acne has ever been and im wondering if its from the B5 starting to work or the Eucerin Face lotion i got. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
junkeroos 0 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Well i have been doin B5 now for excatly 1 month, I have seen no improvement at all I have little over 10 days supply left (@ 20g a day) so unless it kicks in soon thats it for me i guess. I feel really dissapointed, is there any chance it might still kick in after a month? Do you think its worth carrying on? I look around this site and people claim results in periods of only 2 days etc or a couple of weeks. My skin is very oily and it has been for several years now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
junkeroos 0 Share Posted September 27, 2004 NASTY! Popping those critters looked like it would hurt! The scrotum gets very sweaty and oily so I'm not sure if B5 can treat this....the best person to ask is Dr. Leung himself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
junkeroos 0 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Best source of 1000mg Vitamin B5Superior Nutraceuticalsabout .10c per gram Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dnky 0 Share Posted October 5, 2004 After reading a number of posts about how B5 works for awhile and then seems to "quit working" for a lot of people, I would like to hear if there are people out there who have used it for longer periods of time (ex. over a year or more) without it losing its effectiveness. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falco 0 Share Posted October 9, 2004 hi ppl. im kinda new here so work with me..... ive been reading all the posts regarding vitamin b5. because there are so many opinions and different sayings on different things, for those who have a very good knowledge about wat to take, here are my questions:1. does it matter wat brand of b5 i buy? if so which brands and where do i get it the CHEAPEST( i m a student who works for money so value matters but i do not want crap cheap ones; if it is good quality i wiling to pay)?2. do i need optizinc? again could u recommend where to get it.3. does the brand for B complex matter? which one do i take v-100 or v-504.do i need biotin? if so how much5. in terms of taking medicine: for clear skin i should take : b5, zinc,b complex, and biotin right? do i need anything added to the list?i post this because of all the confusion i had by reading all these posts and F.A.Q.plz help me out.... i want to get my face clear... i've had it for 2 years now and im really stressed from it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DipItLow 0 Share Posted October 9, 2004 good questions I need the answer to all that also^Try 5 years for me . Sad thing is I was around when the whole B5 craze first came about on the General Acne chat forum for EZboards. Anyways Im tired of topicals. Their a waste the only that every worked was carleys and almay smoothing treatment. But my skin is still oily and i get breakouts on the forhead at least 4 to 5 nasty ones a month. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZAP 0 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Hi everyone,Which one is better, B5 in powder or pills (B5 from acnemiracle or b5supplements)?? Thank you very much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rm10989 0 Share Posted October 12, 2004 Does a high B5 concentration in the body hurt puberty at all? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atreyu 1 Share Posted October 12, 2004 Ok, I'll try to answer all these to the best of my ability.KillingTime1. The weightloss thing affects everyone differently. I have lost a tremendous amount of weight since starting the therapy a month ago (dropped about 20 lbs). However, I'm doing 20g's instead of 10, so that may affect me. What I would say is try it out for a bit, and if you start to lose too much weight, then discontinue use. 2. Never heard of this, the B5 I'm taking has zinc in it and it's working just fine.3. I honestly do not know why this happens, in all respects, it shouldn't. There are many people, however, that don't have this happen.Falco1. Ever hear the saying "you get what you paid for"? Well that's just as true with vitamins. Places selling cheaper vitamins tend to cut corners in order to make it so cheap. Just go with a reliable company and you should be fine.2. I take mine with optizinc, but it's built in. Acnemiracle sells the blend with optizinc already in it, so that's where I get it from. If you want tablets, Solgar seems to be a popular brand so you might check them out.3. Again, you get what you paid for. Just make sure it's a reliable company. B-50 twice a day is plenty. Some people get the 100 and take it once, but I think it would be better to have it spread out more.4. It's not "needed" but it helps to prevent the rare side effect of hairloss. Just pick up some biotin and take whatever dosage the bottle says and you'll be fine.5. Those vitamins are a great combo and SHOULD give you great results. There's nothing I would add, just make sure you get high quality brands. ZAPAccording to acnemiracle, powder vitamins have a higher absorption rate. I've tried both and I like powder better, though it's rancid to take. Either way you should get the results your looking for, but again I must stress that it's a good brand.rm10989Nope, the biggest thing that will be effected is your digestive system... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
junkeroos 0 Share Posted October 13, 2004 To counteract the side effects of taking megadoses of B5, you need B-100 complex, OptiZinc and Biotin. Sometimes they are all included in a B complex vitamin. My suggestion if you don't want taking so many vitamins is to supplement with a Mega multivitamin such as this:Mega Multiple IIIContains the required dose of B-complex, optizinc & biotin with an added bonus of a multivitamin which contains all the necessary ingredients for optimum health and is also a very good source of antioxidants such as grape extracts, green tea, etc., plus cleanses your system of toxins with ingredients like milk thistle, bilberry extract, chlorella, spirulina, etc...all ingredients contained are helpful to maintain good healthy skin among others. Quote Link to post Share on other sites