Jump to content
Acne.org
Search In
Find results that contain...
Find results in...

Thanks for your feedback,Stavs16.It is indeed encouraging to see positive feedback.I will be prepared and expect random breakouts.That way there are no surprises:-).I am quite optimistic...nothing i have tried before has had such a profound and visible effects.Fingers crossed.I am taking B5 only(one pill of B-Complex too) and spot treat with AHA(Dan's).Thats all.That way i can narrow down on whats working and whats not.OK...herez my update:

POST DAY 4 OF VITB5

-Feeling quite good.No fresh breakouts.

-Face is definitely less oily.I know that i am repeating this statement in each of my post.Just want to stress out the fact that this is a big positive.My face was an oilfield before...now i hardly wipe my face once or twice through the day.Except for the nose tip,which gets shiny sometimes,the rest of the face is quite dry.

-Flakiness continues.

STATUS

-The one on the forehead i had mentioned yesterday has come up a bit--but so far looks harmless.I am spot treating it with Dan's AHA though.

-The others (8-10) are drying up quickly.They were quite bumped up...so its taking a while to flatten'em up,i imagine.The one beside the nose cleft...there were 2-3 which came up as soon as i started the B5 regimen.One of them has a potential to explode..but the others seem under control.Lets see.

-Yesterday's breakout (on nose and lips)--the one on nose seems to be drying up.The lips ones--cant even feel them.They are as good as gone.

What i ate:

-Rotis/wheat tortillas, lentils,mixed veggie curry and a cucumber (eat one cucumber a day atleast...keeps my body cool) for lunch; and rotis/wheat tortillas,rice with ghee(clarified butter),lentils with green veggie in it and curd rice.(over ate a little:-)) for dinner.

Addition to that--have my bran cereals everyday along with a slice of bread and coffee.

So far so good,ppl.I am feeling quite happy today.Good luck to y'all!

Okeydokey....time to watch French Open now.What an amazing tournament it is turning out to be this time.Go Fed go....

ciao

~kc

ps: am writing my status and diet in bold as i am also trying to correlate what i eat and the breakouts.Sorry,if its distracting.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Bad news: four new ones popping up:-(

Good news:only one SEEMS to be cystic:-)

POST DAY 5 OF VITB5

STATUS

-The old ones as mentioned are drying up quickly. The one(among the three) beside the nose appears to be cystic...but it seems to be peaking toward a whitehead.

-Four new ones--one on nose--left side; three on left cheek.One of them seems potent enough to bloom up(spotted it last evening itself)...the rest,hopefully would disappear with generous amounts of AHA.

WHAT I ATE

-Coffee,Bran cereals for breakfast and a slice of bread n coffee as an evening snack.

-Rice with ghee(clarified butter),rotis/wheat tortillas,lentils with green veggie and a cucumber for lunch.

-Rotis/wheat tortillas,cabbage (lettuce) curry with green peas and a salad comprising of cucumbers and carrots.

Observation

-Is rice n ghee(clarified butter) causing any flare-up?The potent one on cheek was spotted last evening...even before i had dinner.Therefore,cabbage (lettuce) curry is rules out.

Will be back to my regular diet...no rice for sometime.Am also thinking of ramping up my dose by a gram or so...maybe have 7 grams instead of 5...still thinking:-)

Also,washed my face with a salicylic acid face scrub today morning.Also,thinking of attacking the new ones with Dan's BP...spot treat them basically.Not sure if i wanna try too many things.Lets see.Will update in my next post.

until later

ciao

~kc

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi kc,

thanks for keeping your log, it is very interesting to me to see your progress as time goes on.

I too still have spots popping up, mainly on my chin (hot spot for me) but also around my nose and in random spots where they wouldn't usually appear. Like you though, they seem to be less cystic than usual and easier to clear.

Do you find that your diet does affect your skin? I'm not sure what to think there, I'm sure all the sugary stuff I eat doesn't help but it seems there is only so much I can sacrifice for good skin...

Only on 4.5g B5 daily + biotin + zinc + conception multivitamin... am worried even at 4.5g, hoping it is enough as I only weigh low 50kgs...

Started at about 1.5g, then 2.5g but still flaring up, see how 4.5 go, not keen at all to go higher as trying to conceive as well. Haven't read any reports of problems with B5 and pregnancy but it is VIP to be cautious all the same and not take what isn't absolutely essential, sadly, for my state of mind, treating my skin is a big priority.

Look forward to reading more of your daily posts, and hearing from others with success on B5 recently, C

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Celeste,

Good to hear from you.Yeahh....keep it going.I have observed that the biggest gain i have seen is the oil on my face--there has been a dramatic decrease.And thats good.Nothing so far has been so effective.

I started with 5 gr and planning to increase gradually.Lets see.I am,like you,not very keen to megadose myself.I thought if i am maintaining a log,why not key in what i eat as well.I strongly feel that there is some correlation between what one consumes and acne.Also,i am not entirely convinced with the sugar theory.I gave up eating sugar(chocolates,fruits etc) almost three years back--no difference to my breakouts.You never know,though.

If you are planning to go the family way--do keep your gynec. in the loop.Even the zinc intake,i am a little apprehensive,when you are pregnant.Just my 2 cents.

Good luck with your regimen.Do key in your progress regularly.Its good to move ahead together.

Take care.

===

OK...for my daily progress.Sorry,i am late.But better late than never,rite?

Increased my dosage to 5.5grams.Feeling really good and motivated.No new ones...that calls for big cheers...huh?whistling.gif)

Didn't feel too good after the salicylic face wash yesterday morning...face kinda stretched.Spot treated a couple of spots with Dan's BP for 3-4 hours in the evening (between my face wash in the evening and night)

POST DAY 6 OF VITB5

STATUS

-All the old ones (except the one that was cystic and peaking toward a whitehead) are flattened and dried out.They are almost gone.Can hardly feel them. The cystic one remains the same...approaching white head,but absolutely no pain.My hunch is that it is on its way out now.

-Among the new ones that appeared yesterday(4),the potent one,unfortunately,is dime sized now, accompanied with a constant throb every time i move my facial muscles.One more on the cheek is kinda slow as of now...cant say if it'll go away or stay.The remaining two are hardly visible..so thats good news.

WHAT I ATE

-Rotis/wheat tortillas,cabbage (lettuce) curry with green peas and a salad comprising of cucumbers and carrots for lunch.

-Peas,potato,tomatoes curry and rotis/wheat tortillas for dinner.

-Coffee,bran cereals for breakfast and coffee,slice of bread,rava dosas(south Indian delicacy)/rice,grains pancake as an evening snack.

OBSERVATION

My observation is that B5 does not necessarily cure the acne lesions.It will keep your face from getting oily...thats all.Once your face does not have too much oil,the probability of any bacteria homing in any of your pores is minimal.

My face,other than a couple of spots is smack clean.Can't say enough about the lack of oiliness.I hardly wipe my face now.Confidence on the rise.!!!:-))

Alrighty folks....may the force be with you:-)

ciao

~kc

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm planning on starting the regimen as well.

I just can't decide whether I should choose Pantothenic Acid or Pantethine.

What do you think? Any opinions?

Here is some more info about pantethine from another site:

Pantethine

Although most people use Pantothenic Acid instead of Pantethine, Pantethine can also be used to treat acne. Lochlyn Deckard about Dhr. Leung in http://clearskin.net/viewtopic.php?t=3624

emailed Dr. Lit-Hung Leung about Pantethine. Here's his reply:

"Pantethine, and for that matter, Coenzyme A, are but the active forms that pantothenic acid takes once it gets into the body system. They are probably a little more efficient than calcium pantothenate, the commonly available commercial form of pantothenic acid, but they are much more expensive. If you look up pantethine, you'll find that it is the disulfide dimer of pantetheine, the derivative of which is an intermediate in the conversion of pantothenic acid to coenzyme A. As such, weight for weight, no matter if it is pantothenic acid, or pantethine that you are taking, you end up with approximately the same number of Coenzyme A molecules that they generate. Though with calcium pantothenate, you have the added calcium mo;ecule there, making the molecular weight slightly higher, which means that you have to take a slightly bigger dose of calcium pantothenate than pantethine in order to generate the same number of Coenzyme A in the body."

More info about pantethine:

* http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/pa/

* http://www.drlam.com/opinion/pantothenic_a..._pantethine.cfm

* http://www.loweringcholesterol.net/herbal-...dies/pantethine

* http://www.wholehealthmd.com/refshelf/subs...525,882,00.html

* http://www.pantethine.info

Forums posts about pantethine for Acne:

* http://acne.org/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=21524

* http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=166710

* http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=163163

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Firstly,apologies(to whoever is following) for the extended absence.Have been extremely busy and also my B5 regimen suffered a bit due to ill-health.

Secondly--there was a swollen lump on my head about a week back...when i was in the middle of my B5 regimen.Yes--i was a bit mystified and anxious--didnt want to jump to conclusions and blame the intake of B5 for the lump.And rightly so--the doc said that it was a swollen lymph node...and most likely it was cystic acne on my cheek,i thought.

Any case,a course of antibiotics(which i am still taking) has solved the issue--no lump,no pain.

But in the process,my B5 regimen suffered.To top it off--my wifey has been vociferous against the over-dosing of B5.Therefore,everything suffered.

Now,i am taking in about 2-3gms of B5 everyday.Plus the course of antibiotics gets over by this weekend.My skin has never been so nice....absolutely no oiliness.Also,i am applying just the 10% Clearasil BP on the acne lesions.

I can only update when i finish the course of antibiotics...because part of me believes that the beautiful result may be because of the antibiotics.So,just about waiting for it to finish.

But yes--B5 will be reduced to max of 3gr every day---have promised my wife.Moreover,my face is pretty clean(no oil) with just 2-3gr also...so lets see.

Strato--cant say much on what to take.Both seem potent.I would go for pantothenic...just because there is so much of feedback and forums on it.And moreover,it seems to be working for me.

As for me--i plan not to dose myself more than 3gr every day(yeah...i love my wife too much...cant lie and cant make her unhappy):-).....will let ya all know how it goes.I am quite optimistic...that even 3gr should suffice.

Wish me luc,guys......and take care all of you.

ciao

~kc

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I've been taking B5 for about five weeks now, starting out at two weeks of 10g and then three weeks of 20g.

My skin (and body in general is now quite dry) has got worse, especially since I started seriously mega-dosing, I'm back down to 10g and it seems to be getting a bit better again.

My nose has started clearing of the blackheads, not sure what effect its having on my acne though.

I think I'm going to drop down to 5g and see how it pans out.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

hello again, I said i would reply back in a month, but i couldnt resist telling you guys the good news. I think b5 is started to finally kick in at full force now after about 2.5 months of 10g a day. This whole week I havent had one new nodule, and my whole face is clear almost except for the side right next to my left eye, there was a pimple that i popped a while ago and its scabbing and about to fall off. This whole week, I went to the gym 3 times and sweat my balls off doing intense training, not 1 new pimple... ate a ton of junkfood that I thought for certain was going to break me out (cookies,ice cream, wings and fries, cake), but it didnt break me out. Was working outside in the heat for the past three days sweating for hours on end without washing my face, and still no new pimples. My problematic area (forehead) is now smooth and healthy, just as it was before I had acne, and even my parents have complemented my face because its probably the clearest I've ever been in my acne life.

I am just glad I didnt give up or quit on myself through these months, even with the bad breakotus i had. The key to using B5 is giving it enough time to work people. My mother was getting angry with me for blowing hundreds of dollars on b5, and I was also contemplating to stop the treatment. But only 2 weeks after thinking this, I couldnt be more proud of myself for sticking in with it even though its killing my wallet.

Just like to add also that I have been taking organic apple cider vinegar for roughly three weeks now, both internally and externally on my face as a toner. Been working great to remove to dry up and heal pimples faster and also reduce red marks/scars.

regime:

I will generally take 2.5g a couple of minutes before meals so it can be digested. Whenever I have small meals/snacks that I'll also take maybe 1 gram just to be safe. Depending on how much i eat in a day, I could take more than 10g or less, but most of the time I will hover around that mark or maybe be around 11g.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I know its a cliche, but did your acne get worse before it got better?

Was your face quite oily before?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I know its a cliche, but did your acne get worse before it got better?

Was your face quite oily before?

it really depends how bad your acne is. I did breakout in a few places that I never broke out before, so yes, you most likely will. But everyone is different so you might not even have an initial breakout. For me, I had about 3 bad breakotus during the 2.5 months, and now i havent had anythinng in over 3 weeks.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Like I said before, I've been on B5 for about 5 weeks now and I've had one bad breakout, but my acne was pretty mild/moderate in the first place.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Okeyyy ppl....time to give my update.

I am very satisfied with B5 results.No new breakouts yet....have not been so strict with my diet either....plenty of peanuts,bread n butter...sometimes over eating.But B5 seems to be working for me.So far,that is.

Finished my course of anti-biotics yesterday...so keeping my fingers crossed.

One thing is for sure--B5 reduces the oiliness on the face....i have never had such a positive effect with anything else.I may or may not get fresh breakouts....but i have decided to continue B5 as i dont have to worry about my face splotched with oil.

Btw,i am taking about 3 to 3.5 grams of B5 every day.Started with 5 gr everyday....dropped it to 3/3.5 grams now.Been almost 18 days on it now.

More later...hopefully positive news only.

have a good one....everyone!Good luck!

ciao

~kc

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Been using Vilantae for 3months 10g per day and It hasn't made much of a difference with my oily skin. I would say It reduced by only 30%.

One thing I did noticed is that my hair was thinning and shedding 2months in.

I have now lowered my dosage to 4.5g per day as I don't want all my hair to be gone by end of summer =(

I'm hoping the lower dosage can stop my hair from thinning/shedding and reduce oil production.

Right now I'm using Dan's regime to keep my acne at bay. I would say Dan's regime works better than B5 on acne.

Anyways, everyone is different so don't be afraid to give it a try.

Cheers,

Jay

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

does anybody know if b5 cures acne permanently or does it come back after so long? ive been off megadosing for 4 months now and still no spots have returned and my skin is bone dry.I really want some of my sebum back cos without it my skin looks so unhealthy,it just keeps flaking.Please anyone if you know of anyways i can stop my skin from being so dry id really appreciate it.Ive tried everything from eating chips,chocolate,crisps etc but my skin just wont stop looking dead :( i really need help.I really hope that b5 megadosing hasnt caused my body to permanently stop producing sebum.I cant live with my skin being so dry,id rather have spots

PLEASE HELP

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

need someone's help-

I sarted Vilatane exactly a month ago. After the second day of the 20 pills dosage, I felt so good. No oil, no new pimples, and very soft skin. I was actually cleared for the first two weeks, except some whiteheads that got inflamed due to scratching it accidently while I was sleeping. But overall, I knew my face was imrpoving. I never had new pimples anymore for 2 weeks. From then , I decided to peel my skin with Salycylic Acid and TCA combined- 2 layers each. Ive done this before so I know how to apply the stuff. After 3 days of flaking tremendously, my skin got worse. Went back to so many acne. Ive been suffering again for 2 weeks now. And im still using vilantae and even up the dosage on the week i broke out to 24 pills 6x4. I do not know what to do. I feel like my face is awful. WIll vilantae ever work for me or is it just the peeling that aggravated my skin to cause this? Cause I was hoping Vilantae would keep me clear even though I do necessary peeling to get rid of pigmentation acne scars.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm interested in taking B5, but I don't want to take alot of pills.

If I take 2g-3g of B5 daily, would it still be able to stop my oil production, or you need to take a way higher amount for it to stop sebum?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Tash: Of course,you can start at 2-3gr/day and then ramp-up slowly.I started at 5gr/day...and have come down to 2.5gr-3gr/day.I am positive that 2-3gr will certainly keep the oil off your face.I have seen remarkable results.My face was so damn oily before....the reducing of oil has been the biggest plus after starting B5.Good luck...and do let us know your results.

Kat143: sorry!Am not aware of Vilatane.

Pam: what irony...huh?:-)From not wanting any oil...to gimme more oil:-)).Your derm can hopefully give you some prescription based moisturizer.Check it out.Its not any sorta allergy,is it?Good luck to you.

===

Day 24 on B5

Still going strong with the B5 regimen.I am not taking more than 3gr per day.Oily face is a thing of the past.Washed my face just twice yesterday--morning and night.During the day,did wipe my face a couple of times.Now,this is definitely a big plus--cause i used to wash three times daily plus wipe oil off my face every hour or so.

Breakouts--just a couple since my last post(about a week).Not really maintaining a strict diet--pizza and some junk on the rise:).

One other development:a routine physical and blood work(twice to confirm) showed that my thyroid was overactive.I am taking medication (one small tablet 60mg daily).My doc. has a hunch that there may be a connection between acne and the overactive thyroid.Let me see how that goes.I have been on the medicine for about three days now.

The B5 will continue and so will the spot treatment with Clearasil BP.

Good luc to y'all.

ciao

~kc

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Tash: Of course,you can start at 2-3gr/day and then ramp-up slowly.I started at 5gr/day...and have come down to 2.5gr-3gr/day.I am positive that 2-3gr will certainly keep the oil off your face.I have seen remarkable results.My face was so damn oily before....the reducing of oil has been the biggest plus after starting B5.Good luck...and do let us know your results.

Thanks b5acneout! :)

I have never taken b5 before, but I really want to start taking it for my oily skin! It's so oily and it's driving me crazy.

I am planning to not overdose but take 1000-2000mg daily (spread throughout the day) and because of my low dose, do you think it will be able to control my oily skin?

As soon as I start taking it, I'll keep updating here.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks b5acneout! :)

I have never taken b5 before, but I really want to start taking it for my oily skin! It's so oily and it's driving me crazy.

I am planning to not overdose but take 1000-2000mg daily (spread throughout the day) and because of my low dose, do you think it will be able to control my oily skin?

As soon as I start taking it, I'll keep updating here.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Pam: what irony...huh?)From not wanting any oil...to gimme more oil:-)).Your derm can hopefully give you some prescription based moisturizer.Check it out.Its not any sorta allergy,is it?Good luck to you.

Thanks for your advice b5acneout but ive tried endless moisturizers,they are just not helpng and if they was they'd just be a temporary fix.I know my problems internal due to megadosing b5.I must have dosed for too long,my fault.Thanks anyway,ur help is appreciated

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey if anyone is interested in two full and new vilantae bottles for $60 including shipping msg me. That's $20.00 off the original price.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Anyone knows what B5 powder tastes like? I'm considering buying it... It can't be worse than ACV.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Do you think it has the same effect as Zinc? Because I've been on Zinc for about 3 days (today is my fourth day), and I'm experiencing a BAD breakout all over my face. A doctor once told me that its best to treat your acne from inside so I guess it'll eventually work. To be able to bear with this seems pretty "heartbreaking" for me. Should I continue?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Shinshin123--good luck.I never had a breakout due to zinc.But you never know.

Strato--no idea,maan.Why the powder and not the tabs?Whatever works..right?:-)

Herez an update on day 29.

Oiliness is a thing of the past.I can stay almost 10 hours without washing/wiping my face--and still there is no oil.Its not even flaky dry...its just normal.Continuing with 3gr/day dosage.

A couple of breakouts last week....they haven't gone out of control yet.Small and manageable,i hope.I need to strictly maintain a diet log--as i feel it is strongly connected with whatever i consume.I have not been very disciplined with my diet--lotsa junk,pizza,fatty snacks etc.

Still spot treating with Clearasil.No big lesions or anything that makes me conscious.

Lets see how the next week goes.Will surely maintain a log and try to correlate.

Thats all....have a great next week y'all.

ciao

~kc

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My country has some rule that B5 capsules higher and equal to 500mg are considered medicine and meds can't be bought online, so I had to order the power form. I should receive it soon. I can just scoop 4000mg at once. I don't really care about the taste, it can't be worse than my smoothies with onion or ACV, right.

I'm planning to take 5g for several days and if I don't get results, I'll double it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Personalized Advice Quiz - All of Acne.org in just a few minutes


×