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I've been using isotrex (0.05%) for almost 3 months. In the last few days I've started to leave it on all night (prior to that only 1 hour/night).

I've had a huge improvement in the last few days. My red scars are almost gone and I've noticed that the shallow scars have filled in evenmore .I also had nlite and subcision 6 weeks ago.

My pores are smaller and my skin looks fresh.I had a few fine lines which I honestly can't see anymore.

I don't have a dryness problem anymore eventhough I'm leaving it on all night now. It's because I always wait half an hour after washing my face before applying the gel. And I only use a pea sized amount. And I never put a moisturiser on top of it.

In the morning I splash my face with water and seal in the moisture with a few drops of oil.

I think I'll stick with a retinoid while I'm having scar treatment.I think it's helping a lot with collagen growth and hyperpigmentation. I also have very clear skin now despite having a few treats food wise.

BTW I'm not taking any vitamins or using any other topicals.

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You need a prescription from your doc. It's available in the UK. .Other topical retinoids include

retin a micro

steiva

retin a gel or cream

avita gel/cream

isotrexin

It depends on the country.

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I've been using isotrex (0.05%) for almost 3 months. In the last few days I've started to leave it on all night (prior to that only 1 hour/night).

I've had a huge improvement in the last few days. My red scars are almost gone and I've noticed that the shallow scars have filled in evenmore .I also had nlite and subcision 6 weeks ago.

My pores are smaller and my skin looks fresh.I had a few fine lines which I honestly can't see anymore.

I don't have a dryness problem anymore eventhough I'm leaving it on all night now. It's because I always wait half an hour after washing my face before applying the gel. And I only use a pea sized amount. And I never put a moisturiser on top of it.

In the morning I  splash my face with water  and seal in the moisture with a few drops of oil. 

I think I'll stick with a retinoid while I'm having scar treatment.I think it's helping a lot with collagen growth and hyperpigmentation. I also have very clear skin now despite having a few treats food wise.

BTW I'm not taking any vitamins or using any other topicals.

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Naw....same thing going on with me. Someone else posted another post about the same thing last week. I use Retin A micro .10%.....literally does get rid of scars, over time.

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Retin A is definitely healing my skin.I know my skin.It's very stubborn. The acne was stubborn too. But it's gone due to various cleanses and retin a.

The only bad thing about retin a is the initial breakout. I got 6 huge spots in the first month (I usually got 1/2 per month before that).

But I'm glad I stuck with it.

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WHY does Retin-A have to cause that damn initial breakout all the time? I've just started using the Micro Gel again after a year or two off it, and I am breaking out again after several years where I didn't have one single pimple! Benzoyl Peroxide NEVER broke me out...it just started healing my skin right away.

Now that I think of it, it was the breaking out of my skin that caused me to stop using Retin-A in the past. Why can't it just do its thing without causing all that previously unseen junk to come out??

On another note...Does Retin-A ( or the Retin-A Micro Gel, specifically) REALLY have the ability to "digest" scar tissue? How does it do this? How long will it take? Will it "eat" pits and indents, too, or just superficial red marks? God, this medication is SO problematic (at least for me)!

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Here is a post by one of my favorite posters, Solomio, from clearskin.net:

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 1:59 am Post subject: Retin-A stops acne, removes scar tissue, increases collagen

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Retin-A, and Retin-A micro gel plus the other true and synthetic forms of Retinoic Acid are applied topically to stop acne, remove scar tissue through flaking of the surface skin, and also encourage faster collagen replacement under the surface of the skin. Retinoic Acid works on both the surface of the skin and deep inside the layers of the skin to change the actual structure of the skin.

Retin-A is Tretinoin while Isotretinoin is synthetic Tretinoin, all come from Retinoic Acid or are synthesized to be the same chemically as Retinoic Acid, plus Accutane and Roaccutane are formulated from Retinoic Acid, which is derived from Vitamin A. The name of the product just depends on what country you live in for the particular product name to be available for you to purchase. All are forms of Retinoic Acid in either the topical form or the systemic form, and all work in or on the body in the same way. The cautions are the same too for the topical and the systemic forms of Retinoic Acid. Wither synthetic or 'true' all are Retinoic Acid.

Please read the complete links as well as the commentary I have provided below.

Tretinoin (Retin-A) and Isotretinoin (Isotrex gel), are just two of the TOPICALS that are available, there are other topicals from the same chemical, while Accutane is the SYSTEMIC (oral) version of the same chemical derived from Vitamin A. I don’t mind going through this exercise AGAIN with you, Luvhause, as we do have new posters to this board who may not understand how Accutane, Retin-A, Retin-A gel, Isotretinoin, Isotrex gel, and Roaccutane, plus several other forms of Retinoic Acid are all related because they are all Retinoic Acid, either natural or synthetic.

http://www.emedicine.com/derm/topic151.htm

Quote:

Isotretinoin (Accutane) -- Oral agent that treats serious dermatologic conditions. Isotretinoin is the synthetic 13-cis isomer of the naturally occurring tretinoin (trans-retinoic acid). Both agents are structurally related to vitamin A.

The above site is probably the best site for anyone who is considering using a Retinoic Acid product for their skin to either eliminate acne or to reduce/remove scar tissue. I highly recommend that everyone do a read-through of this web site from emedicine.

solomio

http://www.dermnetnz.org/index.html

Topical Retinoids

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The group of medicines known as retinoids are derived from Vitamin A. Creams containing the retinoids retinol and retinaldehyde can be obtained over the counter at pharmacies and supermarkets. Other topical retinoids containing tretinoin or isotretinoin require a doctor's prescription. Adapalene is a related prescription medicine.

Topical retinoids can be applied to any area but are most often used on the face, the neck and the back of hands.

There are many brand name face creams that contain retinol or retinaldehyde, which are quite well tolerated and may help improve the appearance of aging skin. The trade names of the more potent topical retinoids available on prescription in New Zealand are:

· Retin-A Cream (tretinoin)

· Isotrex Gel (isotretinoin)

· Differin Gel, Cream (adapelene)

· Retinova Cream (tretinoin emollient), specially formulated for ageing skin.

Isotrex Gel is the TRADE NAME for Isotretinoin, which is a synthetic , and is chemically the same as Tretinoin while Tretinoin is the name that Retin-A is marketed under, in the United States. Both are Retinoic Acid and are topicals while Accutane is the systemic.

http://bnf.org/bnf/bnf/current/doc/6048.htm

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Note.

Isotretinoin is an isomer of tretinoin

Sub-sections

Quote:

Isotretinoin

Roaccutane®

Topical Isotretinoin is Isotrex gel plus Isotretinoin is also used as the synthetic systematic, oral Accutane which is sometimes administered in place of Roaccutane. Roaccutane is true Accutane but is just the name used in Europe for what we call Accutane in the U.S. In the U.S. we have Accutane as the 'true' retinoid for oral administration and we have several creams that are topical Accutane among these creams is Retin-A. We also have the micro gel form as a topical, which is true Retinoic acid but is time released, and often prefered by people who have active acne. I believe that the micro gel form of Retin-A is also available in Europe.

http://www.pharmacynetworkgroup.com/c/accu...harmacology.htm

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Metabolism: After oral administration of isotretinoin, 4- oxo -isotretinoin is the major metabolite identified in the blood. Maximum concentrations of 4- oxo -isotretinoin (87 to 399 ng/mL) were achieved at 6 to 20 hours after oral administration of two 40-mg capsules; the blood concentration of the major metabolite generally exceeded that of isotretinoin after 6 hours. Isotretinoin also undergoes isomerization to the all-trans-isomer, tretinoin, which is then metabolized to its corresponding 4- oxo -metabolite; both have been detected. Both parent compound and metabolites are further metabolized into conjugates which are excreted.

Here in the above link to a Mexican pharmacy; synthetic Isotretinoin is the preferred form of oral, systemic Retinoic Acid that is dispensed here. True oral, systemic Retinoic Acid would be called Accutane or Roaccutane as it is called in Europe. We already know, from reading, that Isotretinoin is a synthetic Tretinoin perhaps that is why this pharmacy uses it for the oral administration as it is most likely much cheaper to use than the 'real thing.'

BRAND NAMES also play a part in the naming of this chemical that we know in the United States as Accutane for the systemic oral, and as Retin-A or Retin-A micro gel for the topical. We also have versions of Retin-A that are synthetic, and at least one brand that I have read about that has an antibiotic included in with the topical product.

http://fbdr.hsc.usf.edu/professional/advis...s/accutane.html

Quote:

Advisories:

Accutane

Accutane (isotretinoin) is the 13-cis isomer of tretinoin, the naturally occurring form of retinoic acid. It is used for the treatment of severe, recalcitrant cystic acne. Accutane has been described as one of the most potent teratogens known to man and its teratogenicity has been well documented in both human and animal studies.

Retin-A is topical, true Retinoic Acid; Accutane is the oral, true Retinoic Acid; and both are the common forms available in the U.S.

Retin-A is also available in the U.K.

Isotrex gel is a synthetic, topical retinoid; Isotretinoin is the synthetic oral retinoid that is related to Isotrex; and both are available in Europe and I believe in the rest of the world.

Roaccutane is true Retinoic acid, and is the same as Accutane. Roaccutane is available in Europe and in the rest of the world.

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WHY does Retin-A have to cause that damn initial breakout all the time? I've just started using the Micro Gel again after a year or two off it, and I am breaking out again after several years where I didn't have one single pimple! Benzoyl Peroxide NEVER broke me out...it just started healing my skin right away.

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I don't think the initial breakout should be avoided, because it's supposed to be good for your skin -- purging all the gunk & stuff that could cause later pimples. Might it also be related to collagen growth, like what people have been saying about the SB initial breakout?

OTOH, I just started retin-a micro 1.5 weeks ago -- either the initial breakout hasn't started yet, or it wasn't bad (just like my normal acne). I started it right after a facial, which might have helped, and I'm also using it with the Obagi products -- though initial worsening of acne is also a side effect noted in the little Obagi info booklet.

-kristin

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What is weird is... Accutane/roacctutane is the oral version of retin-a right? But that seems to make scarring worse ..... why is it then that when applied topically, in the form of retin-a, it is supposed to help scarring????

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Hmm...well, it seems to me that anything taken orally is bound to have lots more effect on the body then something applied topically... Accutane affects the body's ability to heal -- which is why people on Accutane end up with more scars. I wouldn't think that retin-a would have the same global effect on that ability to heal. OTOH, Accutane wouldn't help with the collagen production 'cause it's not topical -- which is where retin-a comes in.

None of this is gained from medical knowledge, so *all* of the above might be wrong. 8-[

-kristin

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