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The right state of mind to have Dan Kern's Regimen work for you

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yeah, the regimen is working great for me... just give it a chance and follow the directions exactly..

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I have read this at the exact right time for me. Thank you so very much. I am about to embark upon week 4 of the regimen, and my skin has experienced a great deal of flux from the start; currently, I am menstruating and this always seems to aggravate my skin, so I now have more cysts and whiteheads than usual. Feeling unattractive and exhausted by it all is so time-consuming, and not only that, it is a waste of emotion, and yet near impossible not to feel. I agree that the less we obsess the more we encourage our own improvement. However, it is easier said than done. I am due to start an acting degree in 3 weeks, and I desperately want my acne to be in better control before doing so. When your dreams are hampered by such a cruel condition, the world can be so difficult to fathom. I just hope that the DKR works for me, even if it takes a little time. On a positive note, it fades my red marks quickly and has already balanced my skin tone. Fingers crossed for banishing the active acne!

Good luck to everybody, whichever way you treat your acne. We are tested sorely with it, and the courage I see on these boards lifts me on my darkest days. Thanks again.

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CAn I get an AMEN? Yeah, my initial breakout was the worst! But things are getting better. It takes a lot of patience!! Thanks so very much. This post helped me through the tough parts. Evidence is in my gallery. Thanks again!

When I encountered acne.org back in December 2005, I was depressed and desperate. I had recently turned 20 and I had worse acne than I did back in high school. Birth control didn't help get rid of the painful red bumps scattered all over my face, six months of Proactiv didn't help, medicated washes didn't help, spot-treating didn't help, masks didn't help, salicyclic acid lotions didn't help, and I was terrified of the prospect of going to a dermatologist to be prescribed antibiotics that would cause me painful yeast infections. I was dubious about the regimen because I had used benzoyl peroxide in the past as part of Proactiv, but I also didn't have any other accessible acne treatment options, and I was completely sick of my skin. I read all about Dan's gel, browsed dozens of reviews and testimonials, and decided to open up my wallet and take a risk. I ordered two tubes of Dan's gel, figuring that I didn't have much to lose besides a little money.

The regimen sure enough ended up working for me, and so I keep coming back here to help out other people who feel angry/depressed/confused/frustrated about their skin. I can't say enough about getting yourself into the right state of mind to try the regimen, so I want to use this thread to prepare people for it in an honest, realistic way. The DKR works wonders, but if your expectations are too high, you are impatient, or you experiment with other things at the same time, you will run into problems.

Start off on the right foot with recommended products, and get rid of your old acne topicals. Just because you have the Proactiv acne scrub or your mom's face cream lying around doesn't mean that you should try them with the regimen! I know it's frustrating to spend money on things that don't work, but it's better to get rid of your old ineffective products than to try to start the regimen with them. Wait until you can get all the proper supplies and then begin the regimen, rather than using some 10% BP you have lying around or other old products that might interfere with your results. If you can't bear to throw them away, put them somewhere where you won't be tempted to use them while you try the regimen. I strongly recommend ordering Dan's gel to begin with so that you start with the best (and most cost-effective) product available. If you live outside of the US or aren't comfortable ordering off the internet, then pick up another 2.5% benzoyl peroxide (like Neutrogena On-the-Spot) from a drugstore, but Dan's gel is so much gentler, better-textured, and cheaper that you should try to start with it if possible. I believe I saw good results relatively quickly because I started off with Dan's gel.

Your acne will not clear up instantly on the DKR. If you actually do see miraculous clearing within days of starting (as some people on the boards claim), please realize that you have likely not seen the last of your acne. BP dries out your acne at first, but then you aren't using enough during your first week or two to actually prevent future breakouts, so they will probably come back until you have upped your dosage enough and held it at that level for a while. I still had breakouts for the first 6 or 7 weeks on the regimen, and many people take even longer before they clear. My pimples started disappearing more quickly and weren't as severe at that point, but acne is still acne. Be prepared to give the DKR a three month trial, and be prepared to still have acne for most of that time.

It is more important to get your skin used to the benzoyl peroxide for the first month or so than to actually achieve clear skin. It is better to go slowly and take more time to work your way up to a full-finger application than to use too much gel too soon and backpedal because of irritation and dryness. Even if you've used benzoyl peroxide before in other systems, you probably were not using nearly as much BP as you will be on the regimen. I had used both the Proactiv face wash and lotion twice a day for six months and plenty of 10% BP creams in the past, and still, my skin took time to adjust to the small amount of BP I started with. Follow Dan's recommendations for BP dosage--or use even less if you feel that your skin is overly irritated. You might not clear up as quickly as you want, but you can avoid many of the problems that new regimen users complain about by going easy with the BP.

Try not to think about your skin. When you start clearing up a little but not completely, you might hold your skin to a higher standard than you did before and become more frustrated with it. If you are constantly obsessing over a new breakout or thinking about how you're not clear yet, you might even do things that interfere with the regimen. Resist the temptation to check your skin out in mirrors all the time or to pick at active acne! Aside from reapplying moisturizer as necessary, you don't want to be touching your face; the best way to do this is to not think about you skin at all. Don't dwell on why you're not clear yet and don't worry about some visible flakes or redness. Think about what your skin will be like in a few months, not how it is now, and know that breakouts or dryness right now won't matter at all in a short time.

Peeling, redness, and flaking will eventually go away, but it may take a couple of months and some product changes. Let's be honest: your skin just probably won't look that great while you are beginning the regimen. You'll still have active acne, your skin will be drier, you might have flakes or areas of redness, your skin might look parched, it's just not a pretty picture at the start. Many people think that it gets worse before it gets better, and I agree. You just have to power on through it and look to the future. You can try switching cleansers and moisturizers to help with flaking or redness problems, but please realize that you can only do so much while you are still adjusting to BP. Even with the best recommended products, for the first few months you will still deal with some degree of redness, dryness, and flaking. Those problems do go away eventually! Again, try not to dwell on the state of your skin or do things that are counterproductive in the meantime.

Don't be tempted by other treatments while on the regimen. Other acne treatments like salicyclic acid (beta hydroxy acid) or sulfur can compoud your irritation with the regimen, so don't touch those at all, especially while you are still adjusting to the regimen, In fact, BP deactivates topical retinoid products aside from Differin, so you definitely can't have those on your face at the same time! When you see an acne face wash at a store, just skip right over it and purchase something unmedicated. Even though you think you might get clear faster by using multiple treatments, you'll just end up with lots more irritation and perhaps even more acne than if you had just stuck with BP. Other kinds of skin treatments tend to do more harm than good. Scrubs can tear up your skin, masks are overdrying, and homemade facial concoctions are ineffective at best. Some people really like the idea of natural skincare and want to incorporate in things like aloe vera and tea tree oil, but the results from adding in extra steps like these to the regimen seem to be by and large unsuccessful. Just keep in mind that if you insist on using more products and aren't getting the results you hope for, the first thing Dan, Brandy, and other regimen veterans will tell you is to get back to basics and ditch the extras. Alpha hydroxy acids (AHAs) such as lactic acid or glycolic acid moisturizers really do help with flaking and dryness, but you should wait until your skin is used to the full dose of BP before trying these. The more complicated the regimen, the harder it is to figure out where it goes wrong!

If you can't make time to do the regimen morning and night, then the DKR is not for you. Twice a day, every day. If you do the regimen only once a day, leave out steps, go through the process hastily, or miss applications, then you should expect less than ideal results. I skipped a couple non-consecutive applications due to late-night partying and timing of washes recently, and what do you know--even after nine months of straight DKR use, I still got some small pimples by my mouth. Slacking off is fine so long as you are willing to pay the price, but again, it is an actual price. If you balk at setting aside a good half-hour each morning and evening to wash your face, apply BP, allow it to absorb, and moisturize, then you should look into other acne treatment options. Patience and diligence is absolutely key.

Don't expect a flawless complexion when all your acne is gone. Many people complain about redmarks and scars and how the regimen doesn't address these acne artifacts. It's simply not that easy! An AHA used once or twice a day over several months can help fade hyperpigmentation, but it might not be enough to get your skin completely mark-free, especially if you had moderate-severe acne before the regimen. I didn't even know I had acne scarring until I had cleared up, and then I had a whole new skin problem that I had never thought about before! Now I have accepted that I can't do much about my mild scarring without spending lots of money on treatments, and that even so, my skin still looks so much better now than it did a year ago. So when you do clear up, please don't expect to have baby butt smooth, unblemished skin. Have realistic expectations about what your acne-free skin will look like. I much prefer easily concealable light marks and minor dents over big red inflamed pimples, but if you feel otherwise, then don't bother treating your acne.

Breakouts can still happen. I still get small pimples nine months later when I slack off, as I have not grown out of acne. The regimen can keep virtually all acne at bay when you follow it diligently, but even so, you might still get little pimples in problem areas once in a while. The more persistent your acne, the bigger the consequences of missing an application and the more likely minor breakouts might continue. In order to maintain clear skin, you will need to keep buying cleanser, BP, and moisturizer, keep making time to do the regimen morning and night, and keep being gentle with your skin. The regimen effectively prevents acne, but if you stop, your pimples will come back (unless you have grown out of acne). It is up to you to decide if you can stick with the regimen for the long haul.

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What should I do if I can't deal with the flakiness caused by the BP? I have used several different BP products in the past in several different doses and I just can't tolerate the flakiness. I read a book on Acne... wish I could remember the title but the solution/regimen in the book was something like this:

Morning:

Wash face with Salicylic (sp) acid gel cleanser such as murads. Once you've rubbed it into your skin let it sit for 2-3 min before completely rinsing it off.

Wash face with a Glycolic acid cleanser such as Wrinkle Revenge 1 or 2. Once again let it sit on your face for 2-3 min before completely rinsing.

Apply an oil free moisturizer (small amount)

Night:

Wash face with Salicylic acid cleanser exactly the same as in the morning.

Rub ice cube over effected area for 1-3 min then apply a BP cleanser to the skin. Do NOT rinse...

Hold ice packs on effected areas for 10-15 minutes then go to sleep without rinsing the BP cleanser off.

This combination seemed to work instantly, but when my skin started to flake I cut the BP part of the regimen out because I simply would rather have the mild yet persistent bumps then look like a snake shedding my scales.

(I just remembered the name of the book... 'The Acne Cure'... I think)

This regimen also required a very, very, very strange step that I just couldn't bring myself to do although it sounds like it probably would help and that is to do at home colon cleansing. Not happening for me!!!

It also recommended not to eat lots of sugars like the ones found in candy and to try and avoid the bad fats associated with fried foods... Which makes perfect sense and helps with acne I know. But this whole process can be so time consuming and tedious that it's too hard to follow religiously.

My acne is more obnoxious than it is bad. I usually always have 3- 5 tiny flesh colored bumps on my forhead right between my eye-brows one or two on my temples and 3 - 5 flesh colored bumps on my chin. Around my period I might get a red pimple or two that turned into a puss filled mini island but those seem to bother me less because I can pop them and then their gone a day or two later. But those tiny little bumps, I swear to you, make me insane. Their noticable but not disgusting looking at all because their flush with the color of my skin but the way they feel when I touch my face or in certain light they stand out more than other times drives me absolutely crazy. And make-up tends to make them show up even more.

The regimen I described before minus the BP reduced at least 80% of my problems but I can't afford it anymore because each cleanser was 25 bucks plus tax and the lotion was thirty plus tax which adds up to almost a hundred bucks every month or two.

I'm 24 and my self-esteem is almost non-existent. When I was a teenager and all the way until about 22 my skin was like a porcelin doll minus a menstrual pimple here and there, so I have a very hard time understanding why I have it now. I have a huge feeling that alot of it if not all of it is caused by my smoking habit, intense stress levels, hormones, weekend binge drinking, and my laziness of washing my face before bedtime. I hardly ever wear makeup except occasionally eye make-up or concealer and the only foundation or powder I use is Bare-minerals which is supposed to be gentle on the skin and even help the skin.

I need advice, anything.

Please help me... Lately I've been so frustrated with my skin I just want to peel my skin off and sometimes it even brings me to tears or I'll refuse to leave the house which drives my fiance crazy.

WHAT DO I DO????????

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What should I do if I can't deal with the flakiness caused by the BP? I have used several different BP products in the past in several different doses and I just can't tolerate the flakiness. I read a book on Acne... wish I could remember the title but the solution/regimen in the book was something like this:

Morning:

Wash face with Salicylic (sp) acid gel cleanser such as murads. Once you've rubbed it into your skin let it sit for 2-3 min before completely rinsing it off.

Wash face with a Glycolic acid cleanser such as Wrinkle Revenge 1 or 2. Once again let it sit on your face for 2-3 min before completely rinsing.

Apply an oil free moisturizer (small amount)

Night:

Wash face with Salicylic acid cleanser exactly the same as in the morning.

Rub ice cube over effected area for 1-3 min then apply a BP cleanser to the skin. Do NOT rinse...

Hold ice packs on effected areas for 10-15 minutes then go to sleep without rinsing the BP cleanser off.

This combination seemed to work instantly, but when my skin started to flake I cut the BP part of the regimen out because I simply would rather have the mild yet persistent bumps then look like a snake shedding my scales.

(I just remembered the name of the book... 'The Acne Cure'... I think)

This regimen also required a very, very, very strange step that I just couldn't bring myself to do although it sounds like it probably would help and that is to do at home colon cleansing. Not happening for me!!!

It also recommended not to eat lots of sugars like the ones found in candy and to try and avoid the bad fats associated with fried foods... Which makes perfect sense and helps with acne I know. But this whole process can be so time consuming and tedious that it's too hard to follow religiously.

My acne is more obnoxious than it is bad. I usually always have 3- 5 tiny flesh colored bumps on my forhead right between my eye-brows one or two on my temples and 3 - 5 flesh colored bumps on my chin. Around my period I might get a red pimple or two that turned into a puss filled mini island but those seem to bother me less because I can pop them and then their gone a day or two later. But those tiny little bumps, I swear to you, make me insane. Their noticable but not disgusting looking at all because their flush with the color of my skin but the way they feel when I touch my face or in certain light they stand out more than other times drives me absolutely crazy. And make-up tends to make them show up even more.

The regimen I described before minus the BP reduced at least 80% of my problems but I can't afford it anymore because each cleanser was 25 bucks plus tax and the lotion was thirty plus tax which adds up to almost a hundred bucks every month or two.

I'm 24 and my self-esteem is almost non-existent. When I was a teenager and all the way until about 22 my skin was like a porcelin doll minus a menstrual pimple here and there, so I have a very hard time understanding why I have it now. I have a huge feeling that alot of it if not all of it is caused by my smoking habit, intense stress levels, hormones, weekend binge drinking, and my laziness of washing my face before bedtime. I hardly ever wear makeup except occasionally eye make-up or concealer and the only foundation or powder I use is Bare-minerals which is supposed to be gentle on the skin and even help the skin.

I need advice, anything.

Please help me... Lately I've been so frustrated with my skin I just want to peel my skin off and sometimes it even brings me to tears or I'll refuse to leave the house which drives my fiance crazy.

WHAT DO I DO????????

I totally feel your pain. I'm the same, but for me I think it's even more embarrassing because I'm a guy. I'm really self concious about my skin. The social norm is that guys don't obsess over skin, but shit I do.

Anyway, I guess I'm handling it diffrently to most. I have kinda accepted that I will never have normal skin. I know I'll have scars for the rest of my life. I really hate seeing myself in bright direct light. I feel like the ugliest person in the room. Once you know that you're not perfect, you'll feel a burden being lifted off your chest.

Also what I've found is that by focusing on something that is not related to acne or your problems in general is a big help. It's kind of like fooling yourself in a good way. The cycle is you realize you have a problem and all of a sudden you obsess over it. It consumes you and you lose yourself.

I don't neglect my skin and I'll still try my best to maybe one day have great skin, but I'm not setting myself up to be disappointed because I understand that it may not happen. I'm cool with that. Do the best you can and that's all people including yourself can ask for.

To keep my mind off everything I like to focus on my study and my friends and family (and my business YAY). Yeah they know nothing of my pain regarding acne but they are there for you when you fall. Also they are there so that you don't have time to rant and rave about your own problems. You have too much time to laugh at all the stupid stuff your family does haha.

Keep your head up, I'm here for you, we are all here for you.

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This is a really interesting topic and a very nice post.

ok imma go straight to the point, i really thank this thread because it did motivate me more to be patient with my acne although i have one i still really love taking care of my skin ever since i was a kid. i have a question though.

It's funny how everytime i will see a really pretty girl and have a crush on her and then the next day bang 1 white head i mean literally everytime. Is it by any chance because we get self concious about our face and worry about acne part of stress? cause if it is then i think one way to minimize acne is not to think about it too much and stop being self concious?? am i right? thanks for replies if any.

P.S drink lots of water and dont be intimidated by other people.

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Thanks for this wonderful spectacular post. This made me think more about the present condition I am in. I barely started the regimen and I started breaking out. I guess my skin is still getting used to it.

I have to take it slow and steady. Things get worse before they get better. It is darkest before dawn. Be patient.

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I just wanted to say thanks so much for the encouragement! I know you wrote this a while ago, but it means a lot to me. Here's my story, I'm kind of on the dumb side because I'm no stranger to DK's regimine. I started using it a year ago and it worked wonders for me. I was clear for over a year.

But...

A few weeks ago I decided to QUIT (yes, dumb I know) and opt for something cheaper. I tried the oil cleansing method. It worked for a few days but then I had some really bad breakouts afterward so after a week of that nonsense, I switched back to DK's regimine and I am APPALLED at the appearance of my skin. Not only does it have a few acne pimples, but it's extraordinarily dry and "old" looking now! I was so upset when I looked in the mirror yesterday I wanted to cry! It had taken so long for my skin to clear and now because of my own curiosity I have to start all over!

I try to keep reminding myself that it will be better in a few weeks, perhaps a month or so. But I just cannot get used to how different my face looks now than it did last month.

I read this post and it brightened my day. I will try to keep my chin up and hope that DK works for me this time as well as it did before!

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I just wanted to say thanks so much for the encouragement! I know you wrote this a while ago, but it means a lot to me. Here's my story, I'm kind of on the dumb side because I'm no stranger to DK's regimine. I started using it a year ago and it worked wonders for me. I was clear for over a year.

But...

A few weeks ago I decided to QUIT (yes, dumb I know) and opt for something cheaper. I tried the oil cleansing method. It worked for a few days but then I had some really bad breakouts afterward so after a week of that nonsense, I switched back to DK's regimine and I am APPALLED at the appearance of my skin. Not only does it have a few acne pimples, but it's extraordinarily dry and "old" looking now! I was so upset when I looked in the mirror yesterday I wanted to cry! It had taken so long for my skin to clear and now because of my own curiosity I have to start all over!

I try to keep reminding myself that it will be better in a few weeks, perhaps a month or so. But I just cannot get used to how different my face looks now than it did last month.

I read this post and it brightened my day. I will try to keep my chin up and hope that DK works for me this time as well as it did before!

:cool:

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I just wanted to say thanks so much for the encouragement! I know you wrote this a while ago, but it means a lot to me. Here's my story, I'm kind of on the dumb side because I'm no stranger to DK's regimine. I started using it a year ago and it worked wonders for me. I was clear for over a year.

But...

A few weeks ago I decided to QUIT (yes, dumb I know) and opt for something cheaper. I tried the oil cleansing method. It worked for a few days but then I had some really bad breakouts afterward so after a week of that nonsense, I switched back to DK's regimine and I am APPALLED at the appearance of my skin. Not only does it have a few acne pimples, but it's extraordinarily dry and "old" looking now! I was so upset when I looked in the mirror yesterday I wanted to cry! It had taken so long for my skin to clear and now because of my own curiosity I have to start all over!

I try to keep reminding myself that it will be better in a few weeks, perhaps a month or so. But I just cannot get used to how different my face looks now than it did last month.

I read this post and it brightened my day. I will try to keep my chin up and hope that DK works for me this time as well as it did before!

:cool:

Just wondering how you got along?! Are you back to clear skin and if so, how long did it take? I was also on the regimen before and it worked wonders and then I also stopped. Boy did a regret it when my skin broke out horribly and now I'm working my way back.

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I see all of these success stories with Dan's acne treatment, but sorry, this doesn't work for me. I've been on the regimen for 6 months. I cleared up a little bit, but my skin ALWAYS looks dry and flaky, I don't have much acne anymore but I still have but no matter how little bp and how much moisturizer I apply my skin always looks dry and there are ALWAYS flakes somewhere on my face and so I am done with this, it has made the last 6 months just awful. I am gonna try the MaxClarity Foam thing so if u want to know if that works for me, just message me.

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On the other side of things, I'm very happy with the regimen.

Before I started the regimen, I was using over the counter stuff to wash my face and moisturize it. Now, I don't know too much about skin care or things like that. But, Dan's regimen is amazing. I just follow it step by step, and I'm happy with the results I've seen.

I don't expect a lot, I just like to see some improvement over the long run. The left side of my face isn't cooperating with the rest of my face, but the right side of my face is looking awesome. It wasn't too bad before, just very red and bumpy with acne here and there. Since I started on the regimen (about 2 months-ish on June 4) the right side of my face is looking I would maybe say acne free?.

Anyways, everyone will have different results since we all have different skin. Just remember to think positive, and everything else will fall into line!

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Thank you so much for this wonderful post. I am now in day 10 of the regimen. my old acne is gradually fading. If I didn't have any breakout, i will be quite cleared. hehe.but i already expected it to happen. so yeah, patience is a must :surprised:

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I've read through this a few times now and it was very inspirational to me on the two occasions where I wanted to give up, so thank you

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Dan's regimen is the best, i had really bad acne tried everything. i finally tried acctuane and it made my skin flawless. although after my acctuane i started breaking out again . i looked at Dan's regimen and tried it out. My skin is flawless now. I highly recommend this treatment for anyone who has took acctuane and started breaking out again

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The regimen really has to be followed devoutly. I've only been doing it for 2+ months, but if I miss even one night I have new zits the following day.

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The regimen really has to be followed devoutly. I've only been doing it for 2+ months, but if I miss even one night I have new zits the following day.

Having the right state of mind and being kind to yourself when you look in the mirror is just as important as following the regime devoutly. The old cliche "it's all in the mind" applies here, it's vital to stay calm and give your skin the chance to heal, getting frustrated and angry will do nothing but increase blood pressure and sebum levels.

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I'm trying to have the right state of mind, but sometimes it feels like a never ending battle. I have been following the regimen for a little over a month now and my results are so so. I have fewer blemish right now, but I'm not certain that it is the regimen's doing or just my hormones. My acne has always closely followed my cycles. I suppose I will find out by next month. I have been quite faithful and I just really want this to work. I'm 21 and my skin is more problematic now than it was when I was a teenager. I'm so tired of products that don't work and even more so of the HUGE painful blemishes on my chin. It's just disgusting and it makes me feel so unattractive. Ugh. I'm sorry, I just needed to blow off a little bit of steam. I'm going to see how things are going by the time I finish my first bottle of BP before really assessing the program.

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Thank you for this, I am new and just about to start the regimen. I am so glad to have found a forum with lots of heads up's, what to expect. I do this in my work with my clients recovering and believe it makes a difference thus am so glad to have this myself in this journey!

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