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How important do you think looks really are?

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And it is psychological...our minds associate good qualities with people that appear pleasant to our eye. Also, we subconsciously think that good looking people posess superior genes so naturally you would want to marry someone who's deemed "attractive" to continue the trend by procreation.

Yeah, but our minds aren't created knowing what are good qualities. What appears pleasant to the eye has changed many times over throughout human history. There was a time when skinny women were disgusting because it meant they couldn't afford to eat, and wealth was really all that mattered at that time. What appears pleasant to the eye only appears pleasant because somewhere in your life, you started associated that quality with good. Whether it be because it's a common quality and you associate regularly occuring with good, or because your father had black hair and through your affection for him you consider that good.

Since what our mind associates as good qualities is really a result of the environment surrounding us, it's important for people to roll back those perceptions until they truly can get away from them. As the poster above said, mass media is mostly responsible for those perceptions today. Our education system is at fault as well, nothing like this is taught to children in school. There is no exploration of the roots of our perceptions whatsoever. The result is a society where all the wrong things matter, and everyone just blindly accepts the societal perception because it seems so natural. At least everyone knows their state capitals, right?

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Sure, beauty means an easier ride, but presentation is more important. You gotta look the part through your attitude and clothes, and work ethic. Your boss doesnt give a crap about your nose or perfect cheek structure. They want a workhorse, not something that gives them a boner. Boners dont bring in the dollars... unless you're in porn. Donald Trump wants to hire someone who looks sharp and can get the job done. Not some boybander in ripped jeans and a tight ass T-shirt with questionable testicle size.

Beauty wont give you brains, or get you through college, or make you the ultimate athlete, or make your boss give you an extra hundred a week... cause you do it for him. The one thing beauty has going for it... besides being hot... is that it makes people more receptive towards you initially. When you open that mouth it could go any way depending on what comes out. If it were a sprint, beauty will give you that head start off the block, but personality is ultimately what's gonna get you to the finish.

well put. :clap:

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Of course looks are important. Ugly people get shit on by society in every situation. Jury's convict ugly people more. Ugly people dont get promotions. Ugly people dont get much and have to deal with living with a few friends who love them for their heart and not their looks. Ugly people are more likely to commit crimes etc..When goody goody social good looking people talk shit at work about people I dont accept it and trash their words down their throats. Ugly ducklings (people who took a lot of abuse in school then became better looking) are some of the best people to know. They are extremely nice to everyone and can spot an asshole from a mile away. Experience is the best teacher and everyone should look ugly at some point in their life in order to understand what others have to go through.

Please, help me and others in destroying the 'beauty' industry...IE the industry that makes everyone insecure about everything. Commercials are on TV to make you feel like you are ugly and unworthy of anything unless you buy their products. Other cultures arent like this. Be you and be confident and ill respect you no matter what you look like.

I don't think thats completely true. I'm not beautiful and I have a good relationship with someone and a good life ahead of me. Bill gates isn't attractive at ALL and he is one of the most successful, GENEROUS people out there today. Infact, there are many "ugly" celebrities that have it just as good as "pretty" celebrities. Maybe looks are more important to people in the media, to high schoolers, and to people who depend only on their looks, but to many individuals, it's not important. I think looks are TOO important in American society, but not everyone falls for the media shit. In fact, most people I know don't care at all. Most people who do care are involved in the media. I think people analyze it too much, and assume just because looks are important in the media, they think EVERYONE thinks that. On another note, I agree that TV and commercials showcasing what they believe beauty to be are wrong. people like different things, and it shouldn't be all targeted on celebrities or models, etc. I agree, you should be confident no matter what you look like, cause in the end we're all gonna turn gray and ugly ANYWAY, so don't waste your life away brooding about it because you don't feel you look up to par with other people.

I also agree with the poster Lion Queen quoted, it's more about how you present yourself. For example, look at Britney Spears. The media used to fawn all over her. But now she dresses trashier (like white trash, supposedly) goes around with a mop for hair and generally looks pretty bad, and the media bashes her. It's not because she has an ugly face or body, it's because the way she PRESENTS herself *is*.

No pride u are totally correct. I LOOOOOOOOOOVE ugly ducklings because they are the best of both worlds. The fat girls that lose weight or do something to change their appearance remember what being an outcast was. (well obviously guys too) Even though they may now be super hot they still have teh positive personality traits of an unattractive person, which I think makes them even more attractive.

Pushing up roses I like your posts most of the time. Reading above I would say that most feel like u do. However u are not at all ugly (I looked at your gallery) We can all say one thing but if we were ugly people we would definately know how they are treated by society.

Finally when referring to ugly people I really mean ugly people. It takes a lot for me to call someone ugly. And overweight I mean obese is not attractive at all. Most of u dont fall into that category so dont thikn I am a cold bastard only talking about model perfection.

Well, that all boils down to opinions. I don't believe I am pretty, I believe myself to be fairly ugly. (And I do not want to argue this, because it is how I feel.) Some people would agree, some people would not, but I DO know how it's like to pretty treated badly for looks. I was bulimic for years because I thought that being thin would make me happy, but thats not where happiness lies. I was up to 250 lbs in middle school, I was treated like shit. However, even though I lost weight, I am the same kind of unhappy I was when I was heavy. It just didn't make a difference, thats not how to be happy. I realize that now.

In conclusion, these are all just my own opinions, what *I* think and feel based on what I've experienced. You can disagree with my thoughts all you want, but I will not debate what I believe.

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In conclusion, these are all just my own opinions, what *I* think and feel based on what I've experienced. You can disagree with my thoughts all you want, but I will not debate what I believe.

I think you are mistaking attractiveness and ugly/good looking. First off, you are attractive and good looking and id probably try to charm you if I saw ya around :wub: but thats not the point here. Bill Gates is decent looking but hes not attractive. Bill Gates is far, FAR from ugly. Attractiveness is qualities you have that others want in a mate. Large hands, thick hair, tall, distinct facial structure, big boobs etc etc. There can be ugly people that have many attractive qualities. Thats one of the reasons why some really hot women go out with what some would say are pretty ugly guys. Being unattractive is close to being just as bad as being ugly. It FUCKING sucks being lonely and you will be lonely if you are unattractive. Well you could always have a bottle of gin to keep you company on those long cold lonely nights when your only dream and wish is to find someone to hold and love you.

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In conclusion, these are all just my own opinions, what *I* think and feel based on what I've experienced. You can disagree with my thoughts all you want, but I will not debate what I believe.

I think you are mistaking attractiveness and ugly/good looking. First off, you are attractive and good looking and id probably try to charm you if I saw ya around :wub: but thats not the point here. Bill Gates is decent looking but hes not attractive. Bill Gates is far, FAR from ugly. Attractiveness is qualities you have that others want in a mate. Large hands, thick hair, tall, distinct facial structure, big boobs etc etc. There can be ugly people that have many attractive qualities. Thats one of the reasons why some really hot women go out with what some would say are pretty ugly guys. Being unattractive is close to being just as bad as being ugly. It FUCKING sucks being lonely and you will be lonely if you are unattractive. Well you could always have a bottle of gin to keep you company on those long cold lonely nights when your only dream and wish is to find someone to hold and love you.

You really don't think Bill gates is ugly? Man, I think he's awful looking! ;) But that just goes with what I am saying, it's all based on opinion. I probably wouldn't hit Bill Gates. Or maybe I would, because he's rich. *wink*

Thanks for sharing your thoughts in a rational manner. :) I do see your perspective. Oh, and thanks for the compliment as well.

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beuty has become everything ever since humans had developed taste for the beuty!!!

i know many people say its wrong but on other hand its a reality and it just tells people that they should take care of themselves better so that generations after dont have to suffer

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Beautiful people get it easier, usually. Of course, there are some exceptions and they actually wouldn't mind having bad skin friends or whatever. None of my clearskined friends say much to me about acne and that's fine. That's cuz they're not that shallow as others. In the corporate world, looks will be important especially if someone's gonna do news or go into something where a camera is involved or if the job is high pay, etc.

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looks are sHit, pleaseee..

you think being really attractive will make you happier? you are wrong.

when i was near flawless looking, i was the most insecure person. not happy at all. now im more confident in my skin and much happier. in the end, its your substance that ppl define you by.

not looks.

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Seriously, y'all. Drive to a really wealthy neighborhood and look at what the people look like who live there. They are just regular looking, trust me.

My mother is a personal trainer and goes to very wealthy people's homes to train them on their home gyms. These people are so rich they have servants pour them cereal and milk for them. And let me say that these folks are just regular looking people who have gotten out of shape. If you saw them at the mall, you would have no idea they were so rich.

The best looking people are just young, lucky middle class types. Their good looks might land them a few extra boyfriends in their youth, but who cares? This really doesn't mean their successful unless that's how you define success- by the fact that you dated alot at age 20. In the real world, having dated alot means nothing. It can even prevent a person from attaining real success.

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looks are sHit, pleaseee..

you think being really attractive will make you happier? you are wrong.

when i was near flawless looking, i was the most insecure person. not happy at all. now im more confident in my skin and much happier. in the end, its your substance that ppl define you by.

not looks.

We're saying that you will have it easier in life in certain situations if you're good looking. That doesn't have to mean you will be happy.

Sure after a while it is your substance that matters, but in today's fast-paced world sometimes you only have a minute to impress someone. Actually when you initially meet a person you make up your mind about them within 15 seconds...of course later your opinion may change as you get to know them, but let's face it, if you have a job interview the recruiter will not want to become your friend to get to know you before hiring. All you got is the first impression.

That's where you have the advantage if you're attractive, cuz if there is a choice to be made between attractive and unattractive applicant with the same qualificaitons, guess what? The good looking one will always get it. Whether they will be more happy cuz they got the job is a totally different story......

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I'm in the beauty industry, so I'm fairly certain that if I say looks don't matter I'll lose my job. Does being beuatiful equal being happy? Of course not. Look at Marilyn Monroe. Beauty does help, though. I got my first job in beverly hills because I'm think and young. My employer told me that right off the bat. Tall people generally get paid more than short people. BUT that theory doesn't apply to people at the very top. A lot of CEOs in the united states are short by most people's standards. Yes, looks matter but they can only carry you so far. Then you need a brain, personality and ambition to take you the rest of the way.

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In conclusion, these are all just my own opinions, what *I* think and feel based on what I've experienced. You can disagree with my thoughts all you want, but I will not debate what I believe.

I think you are mistaking attractiveness and ugly/good looking. First off, you are attractive and good looking and id probably try to charm you if I saw ya around :wub: but thats not the point here. Bill Gates is decent looking but hes not attractive. Bill Gates is far, FAR from ugly. Attractiveness is qualities you have that others want in a mate. Large hands, thick hair, tall, distinct facial structure, big boobs etc etc. There can be ugly people that have many attractive qualities. Thats one of the reasons why some really hot women go out with what some would say are pretty ugly guys. Being unattractive is close to being just as bad as being ugly. It FUCKING sucks being lonely and you will be lonely if you are unattractive. Well you could always have a bottle of gin to keep you company on those long cold lonely nights when your only dream and wish is to find someone to hold and love you.

You really don't think Bill gates is ugly? Man, I think he's awful looking! ;) But that just goes with what I am saying, it's all based on opinion. I probably wouldn't hit Bill Gates. Or maybe I would, because he's rich. *wink*

Thanks for sharing your thoughts in a rational manner. :) I do see your perspective. Oh, and thanks for the compliment as well.

Bill Gates is a GEEK not at all ugly. Geeks have appeal to lots of people. In your pictures u are not ugly at all if anythign u have glasses and a level of geek appeal (this is a compliment)

In the picture of u getting a tattoo with natural hair color I swear u look gorgeous there. In any case thats not ugly at all just a different taste for different people.

And to Kat17 and anyone that thinks looks dont matter check out my gallery from this time last year. At that point I felt like total shit and hated myself sometimes. I also got toned and really started to feel comfortable with myself when I broke out. In any case I have treated most of the scars that resulted from that breakout and am comfortable again.

My current girlfriend never mentioned my breakout or anything even though she knew it was tormenting me. Just for that time last year I would say she is my favorite person for beign so good to me. She is also hot prob out of my league and still likes me so yeah shes a doll :).

But I felt so bad then and now i feel good again. This is in other aspects of life too. I just feel more comfortable and much more attractive than I did. There is definately a light at the end of the tunnel people and looks do matter a lot.

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