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hate to be cynical, but if this acne-scar system DOES work, permanently that is, then there has to be some actual scientic support behind it. nothing just "magically" fills in potholes, scars, etc. and even if there is some evidence behind that oxygen peptide crap, wouldnt it be in the advertisers best interest to discuss it in more detail on the box? seems to me the people behind this stuff dont even think its credible themselves.

ok and for those who have noticed some changes in scarring, its probably just plumps it up temporarily. sorry to be such a downer.

as for keith's results, just a wild guess, but i think keith's scars healed on their OWN TIME, naturally, especially because he was on accutane AND differen in the meantime, which both help scarring too. i think it was just coincidence he used the scar-free kit during this time, and it should not be looked at as the primary cause for his results. time was a major factor here. 6 month plus, i believe?

and com'on people, if this stuff ACTAULLY worked, dont you think our DERMATOLOGISTs would prescribe it/recommend it to us?

Actually it does work. Some of my shallow scars are old. It does plump em up. As for premanency, I think with time it may just be. I took some time off it to BP, and the plumpness did not change much.

I think it works on shallow scarring only, to notice a result.

Honestly I can say it has helped, but time will tell as to "fill it all in I don't really know". I'll give it like a year.

If it temporary I will have a light surg. or something, but any way still use it as long as I don't break out, cause I notice it makes my skin more even before make-up. And helps large pores look smaller.

Good moisturiser too, if you are not too dry........ :)

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hey sry, dont mean to doubt you jodie, hell, maybe it is permanent, how would i know.. im just confused bc im not sure HOW or why it works.. you know? how come top-notch lasers designed to eliminate scarring cant even deliver the results that people are talking about from some cheap, manufactured scar cream? also, why isnt there more research on this oxygen peptide stuff if it works so well?? kinda odd, rite? im just puzzled, thats all :think:

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I never used the sunscreen, but gave the scar remover 2 weeks. First week, I applied lightly allover cheeks and forehead twice a day..got tons of new blackhead. Aaarg! The second week, I applied only in my indents and now have 3 new cysts. I haven't had a cyst in over 3 years. Im happy some of you are seeing results.. call me a quitter..lol.. I took mine back (with receipt) to Osco and received a full refund no questions asked.

Good luck to you all... :)

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I guess I don't really care how or why it works...I just wanna see if it does work...When I had acne I tried every single OTC product before moving onto prescribed medications, and now with my shallow scars I'm going to try OTC products, or things like TCA Cross, before moving onto anything more drastic. It just seems like people are knocking this product before trying it, and I don't think that's very fair. Oh well, to each his own.

As for my own update, yes this product makes me break out in small zits, so I apply it sporadically and very thin layers at that. I have one medium-depth ice-pick that I apply the product to almost every day, but I don't even see a temporary plumping effect like the effect on my shallower scars.

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I got a very slight breakout from using this but it always happens when I use too much. I decided while I'm using it to switch my moisturizer to the neutrogena one. Acne treatment type. I do notice this plumps up small scars a bit. I don't see it working on a larger scar but for 15 bucks, I am happy. I wonder why there are so many who have to over analyze everything. I was also skeptical at first but really think it works. Not dramatic results but a good plumping effect on small scars. Some people pay big bucks for this like me !! I was considering more smoothbeam and probably will still have it but this stuff is great for 15 dollars ya know?? Probably not great for the very acne prone.

One reason I bought this stuff was I have used their products before. They had a wrinkle patch which is no longer sold which you put under your eyes and I kid you not, the next morning you took it off and wallaa, wrinkles were gone. It was a temporary thing but sometimes could take years off my appearance for the day anyway. It also had a cumulative effect which was more permanent with consistant use. I just knew there might be something to this if they claimed there was. Why over analyze? Not like we are spending 150 or anything for it?? I might look into more of the oxygen peptides they use in this but it may be the combination of ingredients which gives results.

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hate to be cynical, but if this acne-scar system DOES work, permanently that is, then there has to be some actual scientic support behind it. nothing just "magically" fills in potholes, scars, etc. and even if there is some evidence behind that oxygen peptide crap, wouldnt it be in the advertisers best interest to discuss it in more detail on the box? seems to me the people behind this stuff dont even think its credible themselves.

ok and for those who have noticed some changes in scarring, its probably just plumps it up temporarily. sorry to be such a downer.

as for keith's results, just a wild guess, but i think keith's scars healed on their OWN TIME, naturally, especially because he was on accutane AND differen in the meantime, which both help scarring too. i think it was just coincidence he used the scar-free kit during this time, and it should not be looked at as the primary cause for his results. time was a major factor here. 6 month plus, i believe?

and com'on people, if this stuff ACTAULLY worked, dont you think our DERMATOLOGISTs would prescribe it/recommend it to us?

I didnt have severe scarring obviously. There were a lot of disgusting scars and indents on my face that cleared over time while using that stuff. Some had been there much much longer than the breakout that cuased most of the scars a year ago and those have smoothed as well.

I used accutane and currently use differin gel. Retinoids did nothing for my scarring as I have used them for a long time. Anyway believe what u want it makes no difference to me. I ahve not seen a person just have natural healing of acne scars like I had though. But whatever I am happy with my face and thats all that I care about.

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hate to be cynical, but if this acne-scar system DOES work, permanently that is, then there has to be some actual scientic support behind it. nothing just "magically" fills in potholes, scars, etc. and even if there is some evidence behind that oxygen peptide crap, wouldnt it be in the advertisers best interest to discuss it in more detail on the box? seems to me the people behind this stuff dont even think its credible themselves.

ok and for those who have noticed some changes in scarring, its probably just plumps it up temporarily. sorry to be such a downer.

as for keith's results, just a wild guess, but i think keith's scars healed on their OWN TIME, naturally, especially because he was on accutane AND differen in the meantime, which both help scarring too. i think it was just coincidence he used the scar-free kit during this time, and it should not be looked at as the primary cause for his results. time was a major factor here. 6 month plus, i believe?

and com'on people, if this stuff ACTAULLY worked, dont you think our DERMATOLOGISTs would prescribe it/recommend it to us?

WEll have you tried it?you don't know if it works or not unless you have tried it. And sorry to be even MORE cynical but no actually I don't think your dermatologist would prescribe/recommend it to you because they have to earn money if they gave you any of those they wouldn't get any money now would they? so in that case why WOULD they recommend it to you? You should know not everyone is good in this world and your derm might just not want to tell you about it so they can get the money.

ANd yes it could be a coincidence that he was on accutane and differin. I don't know about accutane or differen helping with scars, but I have used differin and my scars didn't fade so I'm kinda leaning towards it doesn't help.

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My doctor recommends it lol. I actually brought it in when starting accutane to see if it was okay ot use on it. He asked me what it was again after several months and a lot of improvment to my skin. I brought him in the box and he now tells patients that it is good stuff for acne scars based on my results.

Best Wishes

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For the people who r breaking out from this I would suggest to not use the sunscreen. U might remeber me stopping using this b/c I was breaking out slightly, when I stared back using it I stopped using the sunscreen and I haven't broken out since I also try really hard to only apply the product within the scarred area. If u do go out in the sun u should def. use a sunscreen though possibly a non- comedogenic one would help.

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Iv been having a frustrating time looking for Laser solutions. I dont know who to believe at the Laser places. Im going to research more while using this stuff.

If it breaks me out ill just stop it.

I have very little scaring, but its the red makrs i really care about getting rid of the most.

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yo chill out ppl lol.. i dont mean to bash this product or discredit any of you, but after years of being mislead by other acne products iv learned to be a bit more realisitic ..and find this "2 week scar repair" hard to believe. can you blame me?

plus, who would rather extort money out of you: your derm, who knows you on a personal level, and doesnt get my money either way (since my insurance pays for it) or some commercialised corporation?

and no, i havent tried it yet, i just want to think abt it rationally and not get my hopes up. however, i will purchase some soon, and if it works ill report back. trust me, i want more than anything for this to be legit.

thanks for all of your input though and hope it continues to work for those who've witnessed results.

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yo chill out ppl lol.. i dont mean to bash this product or discredit any of you, but after years of being mislead by other acne products iv learned to be a bit more realisitic ..and find this "2 week scar repair" hard to believe. can you blame me?

plus, who would rather extort money out of you: your derm, who knows you on a personal level, and doesnt get my money either way (since my insurance pays for it) or some commercialised corporation?

and no, i havent tried it yet, i just want to think abt it rationally and not get my hopes up. however, i will purchase some soon, and if it works ill report back. trust me, i want more than anything for this to be legit.

thanks for all of your input though and hope it continues to work for those who've witnessed results.

just wanted to address the point made above.

dermatologists still get money from the insurance company, whether you're paying them personally or not. they do need your business...

you can go to 20 different specialists and they'll all say that the treatment option for you is the one that they practice, whether it be surgery, pills, natural medicine, etc. ...if docs are more familiar with the drugs pedalled to them by drug reps, that's what they'll prescribe you. doctors and their offices are consistently lavished by drug companies trying to get them to prescribe more of their meds. how many of us have been on medications or pills for years, even if they didn't really work, just because they were prescribed to us?

to me, that scenario seems more like extortion.

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i just want to think abt it rationally

your derm, who knows you on a personal level

I don't think that was very rational.

Nowdays dermatologists (and doctors in general) are BIG SALESMEN in the first place. And I agree with morpho, they sell you what they have available.

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ok fine, make me look like a fool lol, i udnerstand that derms get money thru insurance too. and yes, some are only after your money, but my point is, id rather trust a derm that i know personally, than some corporation who does not care how their products affect me, personally, as long as i simply buy them. at least some dermatologists go into their job trying to help. and i happen to trust most doctors' advice over claims made by some advertising company.

most ethics are lost when it comes to corporations. thats a fact.

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I understand what all of you are saying, those who want to know the science behind it and those who don't want to hear any negativity or questioning because they are seeing results. IMO, if something works for you, for whatever reason, keep using it and be happy. Since it is cheap and unlikely to cause any damage, if it was working for me I wouldn't care why. And, I would try it without knowing why it is supposed to work. But, I don't want to use anything with hydroquinone in it because 1. I don't have any hyperpigmentation anymore and 2. I used it at one point (a mild one) and it bleached my normal skin and made me looked all patchy. Now that that is said, anyone who is going to get irritated with musings on the science behind the product, just don't read anymore.

The question I have is if it works so well, even if it just works a tiny bit, why aren't more companies jumping on it and formulating products with Oxygen Peptide A. And what the heck is Oxygen Peptide A? The only things that come up on a search are sites with the Acne Free Scar Eraser. As kat17 pointed out, why don't they have any real info about it on the box, or on their website. Seems like it is something they formulated (either some new spectacular concoction or something more common) and gave a fancy name to. But I can't find anything that says what it actually is and why it works, or any studies done on it. Maybe because it is their great discovery, and they don't want anyone else to start using it in their products, I really don't know. Maybe they don't want to say what is in Oxygen Peptide A because the ingredients can be found in other products, but they want you to think it is unique to theirs. Just seems like there are enough people/companies/doctors out there doing research that if this was effective, they would be jumping on it. No, most doctors wouldn't recommend an over the counter product over treatments that would make them money. However, there is money to be made here if it is really some new exciting thing.

Keithr23, did your doctor have any thoughts on Oxygen Peptide A or know what it actually is? Sounds like you are in the boat of 'it worked for me and I don't care why,' and I don't blame you. Still, it would be interesting to know what an open-minded doctor thought of the science behind it.

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ok fine, make me look like a fool lol, i udnerstand that derms get money thru insurance too. and yes, some are only after your money, but my point is, id rather trust a derm that i know personally, than some corporation who does not care how their products affect me, personally, as long as i simply buy them. at least some dermatologists go into their job trying to help. and i happen to trust most doctors' advice over claims made by some advertising company.

most ethics are lost when it comes to corporations. thats a fact.

Noone is making you look like a fool. You have legimate questions and are skeptical like most of us.:)

But, derms, and Plastic Surgeons - some do have poor advice. I was surprised to get so many different opinions, and be brushed off, and given prescriptions that didnot work. The Acnefree system cleared me right away. I am a little puzzled how something like the scar erase does work, but I have had much smoother skin, and some minor scarring is looking better. Maybe not perfect, but better than nothing.

Given more time who knows. I do not think it works on large scars, but it may soften the edges and plump somewhat over time????

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The question I have is if it works so well, even if it just works a tiny bit, why aren't more companies jumping on it and formulating products with Oxygen Peptide A. And what the heck is Oxygen Peptide A? The only things that come up on a search are sites with the Acne Free Scar Eraser. As kat17 pointed out, why don't they have any real info about it on the box, or on their website. Seems like it is something they formulated (either some new spectacular concoction or something more common) and gave a fancy name to. But I can't find anything that says what it actually is and why it works, or any studies done on it. Maybe because it is their great discovery, and they don't want anyone else to start using it in their products, I really don't know. Maybe they don't want to say what is in Oxygen Peptide A because the ingredients can be found in other products, but they want you to think it is unique to theirs. Just seems like there are enough people/companies/doctors out there doing research that if this was effective, they would be jumping on it. No, most doctors wouldn't recommend an over the counter product over treatments that would make them money. However, there is money to be made here if it is really some new exciting thing.

Keithr23, did your doctor have any thoughts on Oxygen Peptide A or know what it actually is? Sounds like you are in the boat of 'it worked for me and I don't care why,' and I don't blame you. Still, it would be interesting to know what an open-minded doctor thought of the science behind it.

I'm no doctor, and someone please correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe from the searches i've been doing Oxygen Peptide A is university medical's term for Palmitoyl pentapeptide-3 (Matrixyl Peptide) which actually isn't new, it's found in popular products like Strivectin, and i'm sure at much higher concentrations.

You can buy Palmitoyl pentapeptide-3 and mix it in with your own cream for much cheaper but i won't provide any links cause with one whole post to my name i'm sure i'll be labeled a spammer.

just do your own search on Palmitoyl pentapeptide-3

like i said, it's my best guess, i know from searching that peptides have something to do with oxygen, and i know Palmitoyl would have something to do with vitamin A, Hence the word Oxygen Peptide A.

i know the corporations Sederma SA and Proctor & Gamble developed Palmitoyl pentapeptide-3, and i'm sure university medical would have to pay a hefty sum, to market the term. But I'm not a lawyer either.

Just my best guess people.

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Keithr23, did your doctor have any thoughts on Oxygen Peptide A or know what it actually is? Sounds like you are in the boat of 'it worked for me and I don't care why,' and I don't blame you. Still, it would be interesting to know what an open-minded doctor thought of the science behind it.

No he just wanted the name and I brought him in the empty box so he could tell patients with acne scars about it. He prob doesnt know what most of those ingredients are either. Peptides are used by a lot of people on here though for acne scars. And yeah I dont care if it worked for me why would I?

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I'm no doctor, and someone please correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe from the searches i've been doing Oxygen Peptide A is university medical's term for Palmitoyl pentapeptide-3 (Matrixyl Peptide) which actually isn't new, it's found in popular products like Strivectin, and i'm sure at much higher concentrations.

You can buy Palmitoyl pentapeptide-3 and mix it in with your own cream for much cheaper but i won't provide any links cause with one whole post to my name i'm sure i'll be labeled a spammer.

just do your own search on Palmitoyl pentapeptide-3

like i said, it's my best guess, i know from searching that peptides have something to do with oxygen, and i know Palmitoyl would have something to do with vitamin A, Hence the word Oxygen Peptide A.

i know the corporations Sederma SA and Proctor & Gamble developed Palmitoyl pentapeptide-3, and i'm sure university medical would have to pay a hefty sum, to market the term. But I'm not a lawyer either.

Just my best guess people.

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I was also using Apple Cider Vinegar before bedtime, i put it on for 10 min then wash it off. I didnt use it so much to get rid of red marks, but i noticed it made my skin less oily.

Could i safely put on the Apple Cider Vinegar, take it off like normal and then apply this and keep it on all night?

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I think I'm going to have to stop using this as I am still getting some breakouts. I haven't been using the sunscreen either. I may purchase the active ingredient as suggested and make my own without the hydroquinone later since I really don't care for that ingredient. I still think the peptides in the alloette formulations worked good too, but they are just so pricey.

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I was also using Apple Cider Vinegar before bedtime, i put it on for 10 min then wash it off. I didnt use it so much to get rid of red marks, but i noticed it made my skin less oily.

Could i safely put on the Apple Cider Vinegar, take it off like normal and then apply this and keep it on all night?

Yes I'm quite sure it is OK. You just can't use retinoids or salistlyc acid products or BP as it will ruin the peptides properties.

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Well, I have been using bp and sa. This is why I havn't been seeing so much of the plumping. It seems to have kept any new breakouts under contol but not so much results. I suppose I could switch to the acv for blemish contol.

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ok, i read this thread and got a box of scar eraser. hope the quinone does not effect my color too much, my scars are old and no redness to remove.

very interested to see if the peptide a alone would work and how well at higher percent. seems if it were the peptide a alone, then many companies would use this. might be a combination of all the ingredients, even the inactive ones are playing a synergistic role?

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