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#3083079 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by lamarr1986 on 16 May 2011 - 04:54 PM

P.s. this is why I don't hang around these boards anymore....I and others who have experienced side effects post tane have learn't how our bodies respond to particular supplements, I was advising you that MANY people in the same boat as 'us' experience a worsening or completely new side affects when taking omega 3's.

I took the shit 5 years ago so I know how my body reacts to many substances since I ingested it. Others have had over 20 years so you can either listen to studies based on the general population or take the advice of people who are in the same boat as you.

Knock yourselves out if you don't want to listen and there will always be people who think they know better.


#3082474 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by lamarr1986 on 15 May 2011 - 05:16 PM

Right I will say this once as I have repeated it to many times on here over the years....there is a trend amongst accutane side effect sufferers, which shows that omega 3's make potentially all side affects caused by tane worse, not only that I have seen it cause more sides to appear in people (myself Included).

Why is that? Truthfull answer is FUCK know's (do you think doctors can give you the answers in regards to your accutane side affects? NO) we (the human race) are amatures when it comes to understanding the inate functions of the human body, so when one of you guys spew out some websites info (or even a peer reviewed journal)....don't think that means anymore than what I have just said, coz it don't mean a thing! especially when it comes to dealing with accutane side affects.

I'm sure a number of people on these boards are willing to back me in regards to my dealing with accutane side effects, I can give you better answers than any doctor out there, even down to the science behind things.

We do know that omega 3 and vitamin A are closely related in many ways and likely interact with each other, those of us who have been poisend by tane tend to have abnormal reactions to Vitamin a in the same way....

What i'm telling you is for YOUR benefit. I learn't the hard way and once thought the same way you did...

As I said in my last post I use to frequent the accutane action forum and this is where the trend was first spotted. Bare in mind the action forum was around since the early 90s....all of this was found through trial and error over the past few decades.


#3082252 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by lamarr1986 on 15 May 2011 - 07:43 AM

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QUOTE (lamarr1986 @ May 13 2011, 06:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
P.s. just as an additional note, I don't believe accutane alters the telomere length, some of 'us' have had this tested for. I simply (well it isn't a simple issue but there you go) blieve our immune sytems have been interupted, have several theories on how or why but won't go into that.

you need to try and keep vitamin a intake low for a year or two, I am only now starting to buy into the possibility of Gamma linoleic acid deficiency once posted on this forum several years ago, I started it about a month ago and it is helping my eyes a little.... It does not cause problems like the omega 3 in flax and fish oil!



Hey lamarr,

Whats up!  So you no longer take L-Car?  How much GLA are you taking?  What made you change your mind about the GLA man?  The mepacrine is still working out, no sides, no flushing?  Sorry for the barrage of questions, but its been awhile haha.



Yo dude, I'm doing ok man, yourself?

L-carnitine I presume you mean? I try it every now and again because the science is there but long term it doesn't seem to do alot?

I'm taking 480 mg of GLA a day from borage oil. It seems to help my eye and dryness, but i've read it can take several months for full affects so i'm giving it longer this time! Dr Chu really advocates GLA.

No sides from the mepa, I'm on half the dose I used to be on, and no, no signs whatsoever of flushing. My main problems (now that I'm working full time) is cognitive function and my ocular rosacea, i'm going at both full on at the moment and seem to be making progress...


#3081188 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by lamarr1986 on 13 May 2011 - 07:54 AM

You should NOT be taking omega 3 in any form.... You need to stop taking that and trust me on this one. I have all the side effects you have listed other than dry mouth and libido problems. I do have some that you don't though...

anyway....a drug called mepacrin worked wonders for me in lowering the inflammation. I also have a list of supps that help me somewhat....

I manage to hold down a Job and finished uni whilst dealing with this. I take:

Curcumin 500mg twice per day, milk thistle twice per day, resveratrol/grapde extract twice a day, Im currently also taking gamma linoleic acid in borage oil twice a day.

I also take B vitamins occassionally as well as a supplement called piracetam (I take this with choline), this has worked wonders for my cognitive function and it is actually very good for your mind long term.

For my hairloss I Use a laser system and a moderate strength steroid once every few days (Keeps the inflammation down and the lasers help prevent any potential skin damage from the steroid).

These things have helped control my long long list of sides, I also use lasers on my face and apply topical rosex gel to my eyelids for my servere ocular rosacea. I have to use eyedrops all day and cold compresses plus have my meobian glands expressed. I am also trying IPL for my dry eyes.

Funny thing Is i still get awful folliculits in my beard caused by tane....which I have to now use two topicals for to keep it in relative check.

Anyway PLEAsE stop the omega 3 immediately, fish oils and cod liver oil is toxic to us post tane!


#2621413 Dermarolling Support Thread

Posted by lamarr1986 on 18 May 2009 - 01:55 PM

Dermarollers and needles
1.5mm derma roller (2mm for advanced rollers and if you want to take a slight increase in risk of infection or other potential side effects) personally I feel the results from a 2mm roller are better and will be better than a 1.5mm roller for most, but I do believe there is a slight increase in risk of side effects, although this is minimal. I prefer the 3 line or 4 line rollers that you can get; they are easier to apply the right pressure for penetration and to get the correct penetration depth across the whole face.
For the more stubborn and deeper scars I recommend the BD Micro-Fine Pen Needle 31 G x 5mm. I used to recommend using stoppers with these, but if you are careful in not penetrating the full 5mm, making sure you use between 3-4mm and not directly in at 90degrees, but at angles so you don’t penetrate to the full depth then you should be fine. Practice this on your arm before hand ( I recommend practicing on the arm for all stages of needling including the topical anesthetic, use of Dermaroller etc.
To clean your rollers firstly dip the roller in 70% isopropyl alcohol for about 10-15 minutes, then dip in Hibicleanse for 5 minutes or so. Using one of the UV-C disinfection devices is also a good idea.

Skin Preparation
EMLA is to be used, under an occlusive dressing for at least 1 hr (Cling film or saran wrap for you Americans). I personally use a small home Dermaroller i.e. 0.2 mm needle length before i apply the EMLA to increase absorption. I think people should try with just the occlusion and EMLA first though, if you can tolerate the pain then don’t bother with the smaller roller before hand, this way less EMLA will be entering the blood stream.
For disinfection I use a combination of 70% isopropyl alcohol, and hibicleanse/hibiscrub..  To pre the skin, again a combination of isopropyl 70% wipes, then cleaning with hibiscrub for several minutes and rinse THOROUGHLY, should be sufficient.
I always keep a tube of Bactroban ointment handy for any potential breakouts or infections. The Hibicleanse can also be used as a cleanser for a few days before and after dermaroller/needling to help prevent breakouts. Don’t use hibiscrub or alcohol in the first few days post dermaroller or needling though.

Oral supplements
The two supplements I recommend are vitamin C, at least 1000mg daily preferably 2000mg for several (split this into several doses throughout the day) months post dermaroller/needling. Another good supplement is red wine/grape seed extract (iherb have a very good red wine extract by doctors best). A multivitamin can’t hurt but for those of you who have taken Accutane I would find a multivitamin WITHOUT vitamin A.

Topicals
Now everyone prefers different topical, people know my preference i.e. terproline. I think it is a very good topical and I will always recommend it till something better comes along. If your skin agrees with retionds you may like these, but I don’t recommend starting these at the same time as needling/Dermaroller until you know how your skin reacts. Don’t use topical Retinoids if you have taken accutane in the past few years, or until you know how your skin responds to topical Retinoids. Topical Vitamin A the same applies.
Topical vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is another good one which I like. You need a good 15 or 20% solution and it needs to be the right PH. Check up on these things.
Copper peptides I have tried and wasn’t a big fan of but they did seem to refine my pores slightly, I haven’t used long term but again some people really like them.
Keep topical simple, don’t use too many of them it will only confuse matters. Don’t start topical in the middle of starting needling or dermaroller.
If you are using a topical to keep your acne under control, then you should probably keep using it. I personally recommend light therapy if you have active acne though as it won’t irritate the skin like some topical can.

Light therapy

Now this is one of the most important stages. I recommend everyone use light therapy, a combination of yellow (590 nm) red (660nm) and infra red (880nm) is best. You can use each separately or a combination of each. Some people believe using each separately is best. I use the 660/990 together and the yellow separately.
For acne you need the blue frequency at or around 405-420nm. The Beauty skin device is very good for acne.
Every day for the first few weeks or every other day at least. You need to reach the correct level of energy (joules per cm squared) we aim to hit about 6 joules. So you need to keep the distance down to about an inch or so from the skin and use them for approximately 5 minutes per are if you are using the LED mans devices.
You need to read up on each of these topic areas, I can’t go into enough detail and there will always be questions or variables which you can generally find the answers to out there, by searching. I love giving advice to people but when the questions are easy to find the answer to and they are repeatedly continuously it get a bit annoying.



#2460889 Ok guys...

Posted by lamarr1986 on 25 November 2008 - 06:58 PM

I want you ALL to begin using light therapy and dermaroller/needling. You can get yourself a whole "kit" for perhaps 750 dollars and you will get better results than anything else...

Here is a pic of my skin now

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What i have been doing for the past year is having dermaroller done every 6-8 weeks and and needling individual scars with 4mm diabetic 33guage needles. I use a 1mm stopper to prevent it penetrating th full 4 mm.

I then use terproline twice per day. My dual 660/880nm array from the LED man and my 96 led yellow array from the LED man. 5 mins with the dual array 3 mins with the yellow.

You will need EMLA for doing dermaroller at home, many people don;t realise ho agressive you need to be and waste their time rolling every day or every week. Every month would be the most i would ever consider if you are rolling properly.

Take your vitamin C aswell...

good luck guys, you can beat your scars just think outside the box. It is no coicidence that i have beaten so many skin issues. I try things that most haven't thought of or try it in an inovative way till i get the results i want.

Heres my semi comprehensive guide. I may add more to it later on...

Dermarollers and needles
1.5mm derma roller (2mm for advanced rollers and if you want to take a slight increase in risk of infection or other potential side effects) personally I feel the results from a 2mm roller are better and will be better than a 1.5mm roller for most, but I do believe there is a slight increase in risk of side effects, although this is minimal. I prefer the 3 line or 4 line rollers that you can get; they are easier to apply the right pressure for penetration and to get the correct penetration depth across the whole face.
For the more stubborn and deeper scars I recommend the BD Micro-Fine Pen Needle 31 G x 5mm. I used to recommend using stoppers with these, but if you are careful in not penetrating the full 5mm, making sure you use between 3-4mm and not directly in at 90degrees, but at angles so you don’t penetrate to the full depth then you should be fine. Practice this on your arm before hand ( I recommend practicing on the arm for all stages of needling including the topical anesthetic, use of Dermaroller etc.
To clean your rollers firstly dip the roller in 70% isopropyl alcohol for about 10-15 minutes, then dip in Hibicleanse for 5 minutes or so. Using one of the UV-C disinfection devices is also a good idea.

Skin Preparation
EMLA is to be used, under an occlusive dressing for at least 1 hr (Cling film or saran wrap for you Americans). I personally use a small home Dermaroller i.e. 0.2 mm needle length before i apply the EMLA to increase absorption. I think people should try with just the occlusion and EMLA first though, if you can tolerate the pain then don’t bother with the smaller roller before hand, this way less EMLA will be entering the blood stream.
For disinfection I use a combination of 70% isopropyl alcohol, and hibicleanse/hibiscrub.. To pre the skin, again a combination of isopropyl 70% wipes, then cleaning with hibiscrub for several minutes and rinse THOROUGHLY, should be sufficient.
I always keep a tube of Bactroban ointment handy for any potential breakouts or infections. The Hibicleanse can also be used as a cleanser for a few days before and after dermaroller/needling to help prevent breakouts. Don’t use hibiscrub or alcohol in the first few days post dermaroller or needling though.

Oral supplements
The two supplements I recommend are vitamin C, at least 1000mg daily preferably 2000mg for several (split this into several doses throughout the day) months post dermaroller/needling. Another good supplement is red wine/grape seed extract (iherb have a very good red wine extract by doctors best). A multivitamin can’t hurt but for those of you who have taken Accutane I would find a multivitamin WITHOUT vitamin A.

Topicals
Now everyone prefers different topical, people know my preference i.e. terproline. I think it is a very good topical and I will always recommend it till something better comes along. If your skin agrees with retionds you may like these, but I don’t recommend starting these at the same time as needling/Dermaroller until you know how your skin reacts. Don’t use topical Retinoids if you have taken accutane in the past few years, or until you know how your skin responds to topical Retinoids. Topical Vitamin A the same applies.
Topical vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is another good one which I like. You need a good 15 or 20% solution and it needs to be the right PH. Check up on these things.
Copper peptides I have tried and wasn’t a big fan of but they did seem to refine my pores slightly, I haven’t used long term but again some people really like them.
Keep topical simple, don’t use too many of them it will only confuse matters. Don’t start topical in the middle of starting needling or dermaroller.
If you are using a topical to keep your acne under control, then you should probably keep using it. I personally recommend light therapy if you have active acne though as it won’t irritate the skin like some topical can.

Light therapy

Now this is one of the most important stages. I recommend everyone use light therapy, a combination of yellow (590 nm) red (660nm) and infra red (880nm) is best. You can use each separately or a combination of each. Some people believe using each separately is best. I use the 660/990 together and the yellow separately.
For acne you need the blue frequency at or around 405-420nm. The Beauty skin device is very good for acne.
Every day for the first few weeks or every other day at least. You need to reach the correct level of energy (joules per cm squared) we aim to hit about 6 joules. So you need to keep the distance down to about an inch or so from the skin and use them for approximately 5 minutes per are if you are using the LED mans devices.
You need to read up on each of these topic areas, I can’t go into enough detail and there will always be questions or variables which you can generally find the answers to out there, by searching. I love giving advice to people but when the questions are easy to find the answer to and they are repeatedly continuously it get a bit annoying.


Hey guys,

Some of you may remember Bulgarian derm bringing up the point that some people have suffered things such as cardiac arrest from topical anesthetics such as Lidocaine. While these incidents are extremely unlikely, they are a rare possible risk.... I was reading an article earlier and it went along with my consensus that it is the higher concentrations of lidocaine e.g. 10% applied under occlusion that pose the problem.

EMLA does contain 2.5% lidocaine and 2.5% prilocaine. Now because i recommend people use EMLA i want to make a new recommendation for safety. Because we do this at home we don't have the supervision we would have in a hospital, so here is what i recommend we do from now on to minimise the chances even further.

The half life (time for the body to eliminate half of the drug from the body) of lidocaine is aprox 2hrs, prilocane is even shorter. SO as some of you have been doing i recommend you do one section of your face at a time in the same evening, leaving and hour or two in between application of the anesthetics.

E.g. at 5pm apply anesthetic to right cheek, leave under occlusion for an hour then clean and needle/dermaroll. Then at 7pm do the same on the right cheek, then 9pm do the forehead....


This way you will have aprox 1/3-1/2 of the peak plasma concentration you would have if you were to apply it all at once. As you all should know, chances of side effects decrease with a decrease in dose. So i am confident if we all do this we will never have any problems.

I hope you all take the time to read this.


#2061753 do shallow scars go away after accutane?

Posted by lamarr1986 on 12 October 2007 - 08:11 PM

7 months post tane and my scars have definenetly improved ( i still gain scarring from something else going on with my body but you guys need not worry about that)
I would say they have sofened and filled in so that the appearance is atleast 50-60% better, they haven't gone completely though...