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In Topic: Virastop by Enzymedica

03 March 2010 - 11:23 AM

QUOTE (Quanta2998 @ Mar 2 2010, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When do you suggest taking QBC?

I normally take virastop morning and night before I eat/go to sleep. Would it make sense to add QBC in the morning? Is there a recommended QBC you prefer?



Hi Quanta,

I do not have a preference.  I would go with the one that gives you the most Quercetin and Bromelian (with highest amt of GDUs) in the formulation (also pay attention to serving amount: 1 capsule, 2 capsules, etc.). Some products will show only quercetin on the bottle, but when you look at the back you will see that it also has the bromelian and vitamin C, so make sure you look at all possible products.  While Vitamin C is helpful, it's the other two incredients you want to focus on the most. You may want to try one of the following since they fit the bill:   Super Quercetin by Bluebonnet or Quercetin with Bromelain by Now.

As for when you take it, you can follow what is says on the bottle. I don't think that it would be a problem with taking it at the same time as you do your Virastop, but  you will have to experiment with that.  If you want to learn more about these inflammation regulating nutrients, you can read this bit of info here:  http://www.immunesup...om/92fal004.htm

Best of luck!

In Topic: Virastop by Enzymedica

03 March 2010 - 10:47 AM

QUOTE (LiliVG @ Mar 2 2010, 09:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (SweetJade1980 @ Feb 25 2010, 01:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Lili,

You mentioned several times that the Digest or Digest Gold enzymes only got you 75% clear?  How were you taking those?  With a meal, every meal?  Or on an empty stomach before bedtime as you do with the ViraStop?  

For anyone that may be confused, you can take any of the enzymes to treat inflammation, among other conditions, in the body.  They will all work as sytemic enzymes as long as you take them on an empty stomach and take the most effective dose for you.  Where as, if taken with food, depending on what specific enzymes are in the formula, they will predominately digest the food.
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So, I am asking how you took yours because in my first post in this thread I mentioned that ViraStop does not have enzymes to breakdown carbohydrates or fats. So if people are breaking out because it is breaking down viruses and bacteria insufficiently (leaving fat and carbohydrates) than this could be food to feed yeast.  Hence, the increase in or new reactions some people may be experiencing.  

If that is the case than these individuals may benefit from taking Candidase as well, or perhaps a regular/high potency digestive enzyme (experimenting "with meals" or "on an empty stomach" for best results) because it will have the enzymes to breakdown the carbohydrates that may potentionally be feeding yeast and causing these new reactions.  

Just more thoughts...


Thanks,


SJ



Actually Virastop does contain enzymes to digest fats and carbohydrates. It's Candidase that is only protease and cellulase and nothing else. On the enzymedica website, they have a label viewer for each of their products if you'd like more info on what each of their products contains.

When I was taking Digest Gold and Lypo, I was taking them with meals, 2 - 3 capsules per meal.


Hi Lili,

Thanks for sharing how you were taking the other two products. You were taking as directed, but of course these products can also act as systemic/proteolytic enzymes by taking them on a empty stomach.  Definately an interesting theory you have and I am curious as to why others were having problems, hence the possible increasing yeast growth & activity theory I came across.

Unfortunately, ViraStop does not contain any enzymes that will breakdown carbohydrates or fats, especially the main ones (amylase = carbohydrates, lipase = lipids/fats) as you can see here:ViraStop (Click on: nutrition information).  The other enzymse listed help breakdown mucous (mucolase), increase circulation (nattokinase, serriopeptidase), enhance tissue repair (serriopeptidase) and breakdown the hydrogen peroxide your peroxisomes (a white blood cell) produces to fight off invaders. You can learn more about the enzymes included in this formula and others by visiting this brief overiew:  http://www.enzymedica.com/enzyme_specialists.php.

When you take that into consideration, for those that were breaking out it may be more beneficial for them to take a Digest enzyme formulation or at the very least Allerase along with the Virastop on an empty stomach.  The Allerase formula containse protease and a variety of carbohydrate enzymes, along with mucolase so that the combination will help breakdown histamine and mucous, common allergy signs, but of course even persons with acne have histamine present.


Thanks again and hope everything is still working wonders for you!


SJ

In Topic: Virastop by Enzymedica

25 February 2010 - 02:17 AM

Hi Lili,

You mentioned several times that the Digest or Digest Gold enzymes only got you 75% clear?  How were you taking those?  With a meal, every meal?  Or on an empty stomach before bedtime as you do with the ViraStop?  

For anyone that may be confused, you can take any of the enzymes to treat inflammation, among other conditions, in the body.  They will all work as sytemic enzymes as long as you take them on an empty stomach and take the most effective dose for you.  Where as, if taken with food, depending on what specific enzymes are in the formula, they will predominately digest the food.

So, I am asking how you took yours because in my first post in this thread I mentioned that ViraStop does not have enzymes to breakdown carbohydrates or fats. So if people are breaking out because it is breaking down viruses and bacteria insufficiently (leaving fat and carbohydrates) than this could be food to feed yeast.  Hence, the increase in or new reactions some people may be experiencing.  

If that is the case than these individuals may benefit from taking Candidase as well, or perhaps a regular/high potency digestive enzyme (experimenting "with meals" or "on an empty stomach" for best results) because it will have the enzymes to breakdown the carbohydrates that may potentionally be feeding yeast and causing these new reactions.  

Just more thoughts...


Thanks,


SJ

In Topic: Virastop by Enzymedica

25 February 2010 - 01:53 AM

QUOTE (hesitation @ Feb 23 2010, 09:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (SweetJade1980 @ Feb 22 2010, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (hesitation @ Feb 22 2010, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (QuirkyPixy @ Feb 22 2010, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (hesitation @ Feb 22 2010, 08:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That really makes sense what Jade said. I had a feeling that my chronic sinus problems (excess mucus ALWAYS and post nasal drip) are connected to my acne problem. I'm talking all sorts of supplements but the best thing for me to do would probably be finding out the allergen... if there is any. The tricky part is I don't know whether it's something I eat or tobacco smoke etc. I've noticed that I get clear and my sinus problems go away when I fast, so it could be the food.

Surely going to check out the antihistamines. Although it would be symptom treating, not going to the root. But if I really have an allergy that I can't avoid then antihistamines should be the closest I can get to the solution...

edit: Looking at my blood test results. IgE is 8.80 U/m (normal is 0-100). Doesn't make any sense!!

Thanks.

Have you had IgG or IgA tested?  Those are what determine the food intolerances which can cause chronic health issues, from my understanding.


IgG and IgA were both negative. That rules out dairy and gluten intolerance.



Hi Hesitation,

There are currently 5 different types of immune reactions and only 4 types have antibodies you can search for.  With regards to acne, IgG antibodies (Type III, Immune Complex Sensitivity) may present when there is an antigen OR a specific white blood cell known as a Polymorphonuclear Cell/PMN (Type IV, Delayed Type Hypersensitivity or Cell Mediated) may present itself.    

You can test for the first one, but not for the cell mediated white blood cell activity.  Well actually, there are a few tests for that one (NowLeap.com, ALCAT.com, EPC-ODX.com), but again, no test is as accurate as an Elimination & Provocation Diet.  So just because you didn't test postive for any of the tests looking for antibodies, it does not mean there may not be foods that affect you unfavorably.   Have you personally avoided foods and noted the results?

Acne as a Delayed Type Hypersensitivity  This is a write up based on information others, including myself, posted in healthboards several years ago  biggrin.gif It mentions histamine because it also plays a role in DTH reactions.  So anti-histamines are not just for those that have "allergies"  smile.gif


Immunohistochemical evidence of chronic inflammation in acne vulgaris
This is one of several studies that helped fuel the discussion on here as well as healthboards.  It's funny because people in the scientific community had tested acne as a DTH reaction as far back as 1980 and they discounted it.  Of course, you won't react to just anything...only what you personally are sensitive to.  eusa_doh.gif


Take care,

SJ



Thanks for the info and links.

I'm currently on a candida/anti-inflammatory diet. I have been on a very strict candida diet (no fruits, no cucumber skins etc) for almost a year only to realize it wasn't my problem in the first place. I've pretty much tried to eliminate everything already, the only time I see results is when I don't eat anything at all. Either everything I eat causes my problems or something entirely different.

From time to time I've noticed improvement in my acne by dieting but the sinus problems have always been there (except when I fast. I'm not 100% about this but I guess I will find out when I finish my 7-day fast). Even if food was the cause of my acne I don't think I would be able to continue to eat like this. I am already in the extremes and it's still not enough. I eat salads with every meal...

I'm curious about the histamine supplements/treatments. Could taking anti-histamines make my acne worse? I guess I could purchase some at the drug store or have a doctor prescribe me.

edit: On the link you posted, the guy who got cleared up with ranitidine (Zantac). That's an interesting story. I was going to try HCL supplements next to see if my stomach acid is too weak. Ranitidine seems to be the opposite to HCL. I don't really understand what it has to do with histamine though.

Let me know what you think about me trying anti-histamines please.



Hi Hesitation,

In theory, anti-histamines should not make your acne worse because they will be reducing histamine levels in the body, including the histamine that is present in the formation of acne.  That said, you mentioned that your sinus infections and acne will flare up around the same time and disappear around the same time?  If so, I would consider giving natural anti-histamines a try.  The most affordable one would be Quercitin or QBC (take on empty stomach) but of course there are also enzymes that will breakdown histamine (Allerase) or homeopathic supplements that may also work.  

Let me know what happens!  eusa_angel.gif

SJ

In Topic: Virastop by Enzymedica

22 February 2010 - 08:00 PM

QUOTE (hesitation @ Feb 22 2010, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (QuirkyPixy @ Feb 22 2010, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (hesitation @ Feb 22 2010, 08:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That really makes sense what Jade said. I had a feeling that my chronic sinus problems (excess mucus ALWAYS and post nasal drip) are connected to my acne problem. I'm talking all sorts of supplements but the best thing for me to do would probably be finding out the allergen... if there is any. The tricky part is I don't know whether it's something I eat or tobacco smoke etc. I've noticed that I get clear and my sinus problems go away when I fast, so it could be the food.

Surely going to check out the antihistamines. Although it would be symptom treating, not going to the root. But if I really have an allergy that I can't avoid then antihistamines should be the closest I can get to the solution...

edit: Looking at my blood test results. IgE is 8.80 U/m (normal is 0-100). Doesn't make any sense!!

Thanks.

Have you had IgG or IgA tested?  Those are what determine the food intolerances which can cause chronic health issues, from my understanding.


IgG and IgA were both negative. That rules out dairy and gluten intolerance.



Hi Hesitation,

There are currently 5 different types of immune reactions and only 4 types have antibodies you can search for.  With regards to acne, IgG antibodies (Type III, Immune Complex Sensitivity) may present when there is an antigen OR a specific white blood cell known as a Polymorphonuclear Cell/PMN (Type IV, Delayed Type Hypersensitivity or Cell Mediated) may present itself.    

You can test for the first one, but not for the cell mediated white blood cell activity.  Well actually, there are a few tests for that one (NowLeap.com, ALCAT.com, EPC-ODX.com), but again, no test is as accurate as an Elimination & Provocation Diet.  So just because you didn't test postive for any of the tests looking for antibodies, it does not mean there may not be foods that affect you unfavorably.   Have you personally avoided foods and noted the results?

Acne as a Delayed Type Hypersensitivity  This is a write up based on information others, including myself, posted in healthboards several years ago  biggrin.gif It mentions histamine because it also plays a role in DTH reactions.  So anti-histamines are not just for those that have "allergies"  smile.gif


Immunohistochemical evidence of chronic inflammation in acne vulgaris
This is one of several studies that helped fuel the discussion on here as well as healthboards.  It's funny because people in the scientific community had tested acne as a DTH reaction as far back as 1980 and they discounted it.  Of course, you won't react to just anything...only what you personally are sensitive to.  eusa_doh.gif


Take care,

SJ