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#3401054 Estrogen Or Progesterone Causing Oily Skin/clogged Pores?!

Posted by jlcampi on 15 December 2013 - 04:58 PM

Looking for advice from anyone who might understand which hormone is most likely to relate to overly oily skin and clogged pores! Tonight is the night I'm going to be starting the Ortho Cyclen! I'm doing some research on which hormone relates to overly oily skin and clogging- and I keep coming across Estrogen dominance. How people with too much bad estrogen will see in increase in sebum and therefore skin issues. Is it possible at all that the increase in estrogen from the Alesse(0.2) and Seasonale(0.3) is what's causing my issues? Or is this even possible because they are both considered " Low estrogen pills". I'm trying to figure out if it's that or the progestrin with high androgen levels in both those birth controls that is causing the issues? I'm also reading that progesterone with high androgenic activity increases DHT levels- which increases oily skin too.
Please share your knowledge on how hormones work and which one it's most likely to be :( So confused, and I don't want my skin getting even worse with Ortho Cyclen being (0.4) in estrogen if that's what it is! Help!!

Elevated Free testosterone increases sebum production and is exacerbated by insulin.

The endocrine system attempts to maintain balance among the various hormones. When a particular hormone increases or decreases it can cause an imbalance of several other hormones.

Estrogen neutralizes testosterone
Progesterone neutralizes estrogen
Cortisol neutralizes DHEA
Progesterone can amplify the effects of testosterone.

In females, the primary source of free testosterone is DHEA  

It's best to do a complete female hormone panel and include 8 am cortisol to understand the problem.
If you do, make sure you go to the lab on day 21 of your cycle.

#3400238 Hormonal

Posted by jlcampi on 11 December 2013 - 10:11 AM

Why are you taking DIM and not something that lowers your testosterone instead? 
I don't think they should affect your fertility if they help raise free testosterone in your body. 

im not sure , i just read that DIM supplement helps control hormones and then i started taking it then i havent gotten any acne since then
so im confused why dim cleared my hormonal acne if it raises testosterone ?? also what are good hormonal supplements that actually work for getting rid of excess testosterone or andogens ? and is hormonal acne in male causes by excess estogen or androgens ?? kinda lost
Acne is primarily caused by elevated free testosterone and secondarily by elevated insulin.

DIM is a metabolite of indole-3-carbinol (i3c).  High quality i3c is unstable and must be constantly refrigerated to maintain potency. Most people use DIM as it's more cost effective and easier to manage.

Both of the supplements I just mentioned are found in cruciferous vegetables and are thought to reduce the incidence of prostate and breast cancer. Estradiol (E2) is a potent form of estrogen that metabolizes to several species. DIM and I3C positively change these ratios by metabolizing toward the more protective estrogen metabolites. Without this you may have a tendency to metabolize estrogen toward the inflammatory species of estrogen.

As far as i know the mechanism for reducing acne is not well understood.

#3399788 Sudden Adult Acne On Right Side Of Face

Posted by jlcampi on 09 December 2013 - 11:12 AM

Thank you all for responding!  I am very happy that I joined this site.

Environmentally you could be reacting to foods...sometimes even foods you have always eaten.  Although a one-sided reaction usually does not happen because of that.  More likely is a reaction to a new detergent or make-up or lotion.

I have been trying to see if anything is different in my environment, since I did recently move and started a new job.  It's the 2nd time I've moved in 2 years and to be honest, this move was a relief!! Before I was terribly stressed because I had to move back into my childhood home after grad school.  I've been using the same detergent, makeup, and products.  My apartment has carpet (that I shampooed 4 times) and no visible mold.  I've even had the water tested! No notable changes there.  
I am a vegetarian and I work out regularly.  I've been racking my brain trying to find something around me that would cause this change in my skin but I can't seem to find anything.  I am hoping it is stress related, but I would be surprised if it was.  The biggest source of my stress lately has been my skin :-/
Hopefully you are right and it will clear up on its own.

You need a female hormone panel, testosterone, cortisol 8 am, and DHEA sulfate to determine what's going on.
If you do blood testing make sure it's on day 21 of cycle with bleeding starting on day 1.  Day 21 is when progesterone peaks...
If you think you have PCOS make sure you get both Estradiol and Estrone.

I think you are right.  I will ask to have my hormones checked out at my next appointment.  Even though I am focusing only on my acne right now, it's best to know what is going on with my body.    
I feel you! You case sounds so similar to mine except that I am 26.. and had no insurance to see a doctor.. I got painful acne on my right side too which happened right a particularly stressful event in my life! I was wondering what I did wrong especially because I ate clean and exercised regularly. It was mostly through trial and error that I found out what worked for me - a cocktail of vit A, vit E, chelated zinc, borage seed oil capsules and DIM. I know it sounds like a lot, but within 3 weeks of diligently taking this my breakout stopped and the acne healed quickly too. Also I stopped drinking regular milk now and switched to almond milk. I do continue eating yoghurt on and off that hasnt caused a problem! I use Cetaphil cleanser every day and a salicylic acid peel every 2 weeks to help with the scars. If I do see an occasional breakout during the time of my period I use colloidal sulphur and it has really helped! I hope this helps you out! Good luck and keep your chin up :) 

Dairy can significantly contribute to acne. The Milk Industry made a huge impact on the American diet when they convinced us than an UNHEALTHY product "does a body good".

Milk is only acceptable when non-pasteurized and whole from heifers that are grass fed, free range and organic.  We generally won't find that palatable.  It's also difficult to find a source like this.

From an overall health and in particular an acne based perspective, it's best to avoid all dairy.