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#3361947 Do You Guys Ever Feel Lonely Or Out Of Place Becuase Of Your Diet Or Lifestyle?

Posted by JohnH on 27 June 2013 - 09:14 AM

I used to be the exact same way. Paleo diet here too. If your friends are definitely bringing you down, it may just be time to find new friends. Not necessarily write the old ones off, but don't see them and hang around them as much. All my old friends were the same way as you describe yours - didn't care about health, eating right, drugs, drinking, etc. while I was the opposite. I eventually started to meet like-minded people at the gym and at Whole Foods and Trader Joes who cared about health and nutrition as much as I do. I know it can be tough, but just consciously try to not care what they think about you anyway. It took me a while to understand how to do that, but it worked wonders. Just focus on how good you feel because of the way you eat and your lifestyle choices, that's all that matters.


If you can get to where you're truly accepting of yourself and happy with the daily choices you're making, then the opinions of others won't really matter much anymore. In their defense, most people simply don't know a lot of the things that more health-conscious people know. They don't have the facts. And it is definitely frustrating to see those same people who happen to have perfect skin, but there's really nothing anyone can do about that. They've been blessed in a sense. But keep in mind they may feel horrible and sad on the inside without ever really showing it.

#3360252 Weight Gainers

Posted by JohnH on 22 June 2013 - 10:48 AM

OP, forgot about egg white protein. It is also a complete protein, and ironically enough, while eggs are pretty inflammatory, dried egg whites are anti-inflammatory, thus egg white protein is anti-inflammatory.

#3360131 Weight Gainers

Posted by JohnH on 21 June 2013 - 09:30 PM

Calorie dense foods that could be considered "healthy" include:

  • almonds
  • cashews
  • walnuts
  • peanut butter and almond butter
  • quinoa
  • oats
  • eggs
  • potatoes
  • hummus
  • pita chips
  • fruit smoothies
  • dried fruit
  • fruit juice
  • beans
  • avocados
  • oily fish like salmon and tuna
  • red meats (get grass fed)
  • olive oil

I advocate limiting grains, eggs, and other inflammatory foods for an anti-acne diet, but I figured I'd include them in the list anyway.
Granted, it will usually be relatively "easier" to load up on unhealthy calories like junk food than "clean" healthy calories, since part of feeling full and not being able to keep eating is your nutrient receptors telling your body it has received adequate nutrients from the meal you just ate. See the illustration below for an explanation of what I mean:


#3359581 Weight Gainers

Posted by JohnH on 19 June 2013 - 10:34 PM

In response to JohnH,

LOL this is one of the areas where my expertise lies my friend.

1) Whey protein is the single most bioavailable protein there is. END OF STORY. This is a medical fact. All natural proteins are almost identical in makeup and function, the only difference is how much of the protein you ingest is actually absorbed by the body. This is what a protein's bioavailability is.

2) Some of the proteins mentioned, specifically any plant based proteins, are far less superior to whey for one reason. THEY ARE NOT COMPLETE PROTEINS. Plant derived proteins are not considered "complete" because they all lack a few amino acids; which ones are missing depends on the plant. Now, if you combine say bean protein and rice protein, those will provide a complete protein. But for the OP to do the research and find the complete protein pairings would be very time consuming and is very bad advice. Whey is a milk based, therefore animal sources protein. Whey protein and the protein in meats is considered "complete" as it contains all the necessary amino acids.

3) The highly inflammatory stuff is a load of crap. I'm not even going to go into this one because I'm going to work. OP, do your own research on this.

4) If you expect to put on muscle, you WILL increase you testosterone, IGF-1, growth hormone, and cholesterol. All of these can potentially contribute to acne, and I believe the OP knows this.

This is why I rarely come here anymore. Anyone can act like an expert on this site; I try to give a guy scientifically proven advice and what has worked for me for 10 years as an athlete but someone who likely doesn't play sports (at least at a high school or collegiate level) wants to tell me otherwise and asks if I "even read the original post."

Try to maintain a more courteous tone bud, we all have different things to offer on this website and unless your 100% positive on something, don't imply it is fact. We want to share our knowledge here; that's the real strength of this website.


Not trying to hijack the OP's thread, but I just wanted to say I think you may have misunderstood my point. I should have been more clear.


I completely agree with you that whey protein is the most bioavailable, most complete protein, and is the best protein for gaining weight and building muscle. When I talked about the "superior" alternatives, I meant in reference to overall health and the OP's primary concern being maintaining clear skin. If the OP had simply said he wanted to gain weight and didn't care about how it affected his acne, I would have absolutely 100% suggested whey protein. In fact, back when I didn't care much about my skin and health and was going to the gym and trying to gain weight, I was taking in massive amounts of whey protein daily. Since dairy is inflammatory, and whey protein is basically concentrated milk, I suggested an anti-inflammatory alternative like hemp protein, which also happens to be a complete protein with all 9 essential amino acids.


The only reason I replied to the OP and to you the way I did is because the OP clearly stated his main concern was maintaining his clear skin, and then went on to say "dairy breaks me out so i wont take a risk with whey protein." Again, had his primary concern been simply putting on some pounds, I would gladly support whey protein and inflammatory, calorie dense foods.


I meant no disrespect. Admittedly, I guess I overreacted a bit because your post just seemed to indicate that you didn't read the OP or any of his subsequent posts saying he didn't want anything that would exacerbate his acne and didn't want to try whey. I just know firsthand how important it is sometimes to want to do everything possible to keep your clear skin, which can be tricky when incorporating new foods or supplements into your diet. But in the interest of full disclosure, I was a high school and collegiate tennis player and currently work out and exercise 6 days a week with 8% body fat.


OP, in short, whey protein is the best for gaining weight, but will likely aggravate your acne. Keep in mind people react differently to different things, so it may be worth a try if you're into the idea. Hemp is also a complete protein with all 9 essential amino acids. It is anti-inflammatory and, as such, will likely help acne.


Good luck, let us know what you ultimately end up trying and how it turns out.

#3359354 Weight Gainers

Posted by JohnH on 19 June 2013 - 07:35 AM

Thank you very much for answering, i'll search for hemp protein, because dairy breaks me out so i wont take a risk with whey protein.


I know most weight gainers are loaded with inflammatory ingredients, so i may buy one for diabetic people, like naturade sugar free weight gainer, but i think it'll be very difficult to find where i live.


Im on an anti-acne diet, i eat lots of chicken, turkey, fish, foods high in omega-3, extra virgin olive oil, etc. But due to my metabolism i find it very hard to gain weight.  Im doing everything that's in my hand, i hit the gym 4 times a week, basketball pratices 6 days a week, swimming. Im very defined, my body fat is near 5%, but what i need is to get bigger, hence my desire to give weight gainers a try.


I like the hemp protein from Nutiva. It is unflavored and organic, so you will need to be a little creative to make it taste good. I like to do hemp protein, almond milk, unprocessed cocoa powder, ground pumpkin seeds, and a little Stevia to sweeten.


I am the exact same way, low BF% but relatively small. Keep in mind the only way you'll gain weight, fat or muscle, is to have a caloric surplus, so the basketball and swimming are hurting your weight gain efforts in that sense. You'll have to take in more calories than you burn in order to build muscle. Consider doing a couple months of "bulking" at a caloric surplus to build muscle, which will invariably add a little fat as well, and then do a "cutting" phase at a caloric deficit to burn off the fat you gained but keep the muscle.


Your diet sounds great in terms of being anti-acne.

#3359165 Literly Tried Everything.. Help

Posted by JohnH on 18 June 2013 - 05:26 PM

Generally speaking, I'd suggest eating anti-inflammatory and antioxidant rich foods, drink plenty of water, cut refined sugars and processed foods, exercise, use a gentle non-drying facial cleanser, a non-drying treatment like AHA or low concentration BP, a toner like Thayer's, and be sure to moisturize.


Contrary to popular belief, diet has a huge impact on your skin's health, and obviously your overall health. Acne is largely caused by oxidative stress and subsequent inflammation at a cellular level. At your age, hormones also have a big impact.


The only way I finally got clear skin was to take a holistic approach, instead of viewing acne as an isolated, singular "disease" like I did for so many years. A combination of exercise, strict healthy diet, natural and gentle topical treatments, and supplementing a myriad of vitamins and natural herbs finally allowed me to be acne-free.


If you'd like my personal suggestions for topicals and supplements, just let me know. A good bioavailable multivitamin is always a great place to start. I'd suggest Source Naturals Life Force Multiple tablets.

#3359143 Weight Gainers

Posted by JohnH on 18 June 2013 - 04:35 PM

Hemp protein is probably your best bet, since hemp is great for you, it's anti-inflammatory, and has a full amino acid profile. Whey will almost surely break you out since it's dairy. Pea protein would be a good choice too but I find it absolutely unbearable in terms of taste. Soy is not very good for you, especially for guys. Sprouted grains like brown rice protein are another choice but I try to steer clear of grains since they are inflammatory as well.


You can use Carbo Gain from NOW Foods, which is pure maltodextrin from corn (complex carb), but this may negatively affect your acne.


As others have said, just try to load up on lean proteins like chicken and fish (salmon is great, very anti-inflammatory), nutrient-dense veggies, healthy complex carbs for energy, and healthy fats like olive oil.


Almost all popular "weight gainers" like ones from Optimum Nutrition are loaded with inflammatory ingredients and artificial sweeteners.


I used to like Garden of Life RAW Meal (chocolate flavor, 340 calories and 34g protein per serving) but cut it out when I decided to cut out grains.


I'm sure you can tell by now that gaining weight on an anti-inflammatory, anti-acne diet is pretty tough. You'll simply need to constantly be taking in calories, more than a "maintenance" level - in other words, taking in more calories than you burn every day. This will cause you to gain weight and lean muscle mass if you are working out.